As far as i know, only rupiah is the legal currency. It means bitcoin & other currencies isn't allowed  So, can't we use foreign currency then in there, like USD? You can't use it to buy things or pay any food using USD in Indonesia, may be there have some but not many places do that. If there is acceptable market, they are just saving it for the future, like investment too, because from what I know fiat exchanger add too much in every change that you make and it will make you loss some of your fiat so it is better to sell something using USD or any other currencies to prevent this |
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yeah you are right . I just have to be patient now inorder to sell the account at a good rate later.
thank you people. cheers.
Why do you have to sell it at all? There is more money to be made on signature campaigns. You can't get much at all for accounts these days. A little over 0.2 for a senior and you could earn that easily in a month or two on a signature campaign. you can earn it in a week or two actually takes for example the non fixed payment for senior with dadice, it is 0.0013 for 100 post per week, that's only 15 per day with two weeks you are already on 0.26 even if you are diligent, you can get 0.2 bitcoin within 1 week, if you follow certain sigcamp, but it takes a little effort to do so You can earn more if you have many time to post. It can earn you 1 btc if you really do it, like bit-x (your signature) there is no limit to post and you can post as much as you want and need to be constructive too Hello. I'm just curious to know...
whats the going rate for each level of bitcointalk account?
Jr. Member
Full Member
Hero Member
Legendary Member etc etc.
This is a good topic because I still not understand the criteria that determines the prices of each levels of account, whereby account of similar level could be sold for different price. Actually it depends on the payment from signature campaign, many people will buy it below the signature campaign price or even half of it, and there are trust that have a matter, the more trust you got the higher the price is but Im not so sure about this trust yet |
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if you have 1000btc and start very low it could work out but nobody play with these big amounts
Whats the point of having 1000btc if you are just betting low like 10 or hunderds satoshi? That is just wasting your time, better take your 1000btc doing something else |
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I think 50 BTC is a good number to be holding onto, But no one knows BTC's future price, you can make your own assumptions and make your purchase.
You can make some speculation if you want to invest, there are many threads that give a good speculation not just based on us only. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0In 20 years, Bitcoin will have crashed down to $0 at least once.
What are you based on? How can you so sure that bitcoin will crash in exactly 20 years? Bitcoin will never hit $0 since their technology is the most innovative for now |
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How to get rich from bitcoin: Announce development of a new ASIChip. Accept pre-orders with payment.  just joke buy 100 Btc or more and Hold for 10 years or more  Buying 100 BTC to invest I dont think you can find that as easy way. You need to get around $25,000 to invest and I guess this is hard to make for some people out there (including me). And 10 years the price will not high enough to make you rich, it is just to make you becoming a people that have some average income Solution to the problem of getting rich, re title.
NB works only while bitcoin increases spectacularly (which it will, according to myself).
1) buy a bitcoin, and use it as collateral for the following:
2) buy a bitcoin forward, the price is only 10-15 USD higher in 6 months. It is a bet, a contract to buy in the future for a price decided now. You now have one bitcoin and one forward, value 1 bitcoin.
3) when the price doubles (nb, speculation), you sell the contract for the original dollar price * 2, meaning you now have the original bitcoin plus the dollar value of one original bitcoin, which is 1/2 bitcoin current price, meaning you now have 1.5 bitcoins.
Go to 2, but now with more gun powder, may be you can buy 2 forwards and be set for the quadrupling.
Continue as long as bitcoin appreciates.
It is not magic, it is betting money on the rising price of bitcoin, without actually buying the bitcoin. (The one you have to buy is for collateral, to cover the loss if bitcoin depreciates. The collateral could just as well be in dollars, but why not bitcoin when you expect it to rise anyway).
But all of your saying is just speculation and it is risky to make it happen, I guess there wont be much people to do this kind of trading. Most of them are try to gamble and win some jackpot to make them rich rather than try this kind of method |
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Assuming you have a capital of 500,000$, I would invest that capital as the following:
1) 25% investment in gold, bonds, etc.
2) 50% investment in assets such as real estate.
3) 25% investment in bitcoin.
It is great to have some diversify in your investment, but can I ask why real estate in 50%? Because what I know gold is really a good investment to make since the price is the stablest compare to real estate, you need to find a good location and strategic so the price will going up and it really need a lot of capital to invest in real estate if you want to get big amount of money |
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Best way? Sell 2btc when the price of bitcoin peaked in fiat, buy back when it is already halved. There, easy 2 btc gain. But seriously, do some real-life jobs and take a portion of it to buy btc. In that way you will only gain btc and take low risks. But I dont think the price is going to half, lets say that the price of selling is on $250, the price wont drop to $125 or $150, it will be around $230-$240 so it is still hard to get that halving price. Yes real job is a must when you are taking a good investment here, you really need a lot of fiat to invest here so later you will earn more profit here There's no way to sell and buy back at peaks and floors without tons of luck. All you can do is do some technical and fundamental analysis, consider the context of the situation, and pray that you aren't too off in your predictions. But never forget if you nail the peak or the floor you just had tons of luck basically. You'll eventually screw up. I didnt say that Im going to buy and low and sell it high. I know that is impossible to make since this is a volatile price. You may be wrong about your some technical analyze that will make you lose your profit hold two btc until the next boom, then sell, when the price start to get lower, if you can't recognize it sell at 33% less after the ATK so you are sure, the trend is reversed(you will lose something but you need that to know)
then buy back and you have x4, the problem is that it require a long wait, but you can actually go to x8 or x16...
I think no need to be spesific at all about the percentage, most people didnt understand about that. My suggest is just follow the wave but you must act quick to join this trend if you are late you should not buy it anymore because it will affect your profit. This is what I heard from others. I dont know this is true or not |
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Best way? Sell 2btc when the price of bitcoin peaked in fiat, buy back when it is already halved. There, easy 2 btc gain. But seriously, do some real-life jobs and take a portion of it to buy btc. In that way you will only gain btc and take low risks. But I dont think the price is going to half, lets say that the price of selling is on $250, the price wont drop to $125 or $150, it will be around $230-$240 so it is still hard to get that halving price. Yes real job is a must when you are taking a good investment here, you really need a lot of fiat to invest here so later you will earn more profit here |
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Primedice mostly, although I have some CLAMs which I claimed and invested at Just-Dice as well. Not sure if it counts since they're more of a faucet but every couple of weeks or so, I go on Freebitco.in and play around with their free rolls. They have a hi-lo game too which works in a similar way to dice games but since it has a house edge of 5%, I find it's not really worth playing and in the rare occasions where I do decide to play, I always end up losing all of my satoshis. The 1st time I heard about a faucet was when a friend told me about Freebitco.in. It was my first experience with Martingales & BTC...but now my use of Freebitco.in is just limited to a few satoshi drops to test new dice sites popping around. I swiftly became tired of just losing all my hard earned faucet BTC money trying to multiply it with such a boring site. Actually, I play mostly at dadice.com, a provably fair dice site with a low 1% house edge, because I fell in love with their Pilot Mode autobetting - it allow players a good degree of control on your play, even allowing us to set the end of betting streak after a win - their scalable faucet up to 12500 satoshi (0.00012500 BTC) and the speed of Deposits & Cashouts. Da Dice also has Jackpots and a lively chat to talk to other online users (and often trying to catch tips gifted by chat mods). If you want to give them a try you could even using CLAMs there, due to their partnership with ShapeShift. You could join Da Dice just by clicking on the link in my signature or on the advertised links in my profile. Actually if you want to compare pilot mode, it is better in betterbets, because it is faster, I didnt say dadice not good. It is good but the roll time is too slow although there are a huge price of jackpot there and a great faucets too. I admit it that dadice is perfect with everything, just his roller is slow so it will take time to earn if you using martingale |
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Would be better to just buy it You'll probably go in saying "ok just 10k bitcoins" but come out with much more. However, if the price goes up that high... noones gonna buy that much bitcoin from you and it will take some time for it to all go down. Also noone will be using bitcoin because you took em all. OR they can follow your lead and scam others. When do you plan to pay them back? How to get rich? Innovation. Oh yeah, and drop out of university/college  How can drop out from university/college will get you some money? Without any of hardworking and luck I dont think there will be any chance to get rich. And not all innovation is good. You must look into some point and get a good innovation. Many people have a good idea out there but why there are not success? The innovation is not good enough to support their idea so it will ruin all things |
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LOL x999..
Like I said Im not relying of them. Whew are you really getting my point or just increasing your post count? Don't be serious on my post. Of course EVERYONE knows that working is much better that claiming free altcoin giveaway. Are you reading previous comment? I already earned 0.1 from sports betting today. That save altcoins method is just my side doing/earnigns together with signature campain , playing dice and selling prepaid products here in my country. Men come on read before you comment. You guys are in high rank now.
relax dude people have different points of view and in case of faucets, they usually have negative thoughts towards them since they pay so small amounts. and they are not wrong either. just do what you think is good for you. i visit faucets too, they are good to cover some transaction fees for me. Yes its true but you actually need some referalls to make it a good faucets, if not you are really wasting your time there to clicking captcha. Better do dicing, the payout is much greater than faucets and you can also use bot to roll for you so it is not wasting your time. are you sure its not a ponzi ?
if its a scam then you may be in trouble since it may take away all of your earnings.
there are alot of scam sites on the internet which has scammed many people and took away theor earnings.
This is sure a ponzi, dont you see the sign as the picture said? 'Double your coin in 100 hours'. How can there be a nice person to double your coin without get anything from you? Is there any free money out there? Just think it you will know the answer If you lucky enough, joining some giveway will give you some free bits.
For the other thing, the best way to grow your bitcoin is promote something about your skill that can be use or show off to people for good. Example : desigining, coding, even show magic trick with bitcoin.
Get some giveaway is great but that is just small of pieces, I think it can only cover the transaction fee. You can't do anything with that small gifts though |
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earning everyday posting on this forum, signature campaigns are probably the easiest way to earn bitcoins aside form actual work.
Agree 100%. No risk at all.  if youre agreeing 100%, why aren't you enrolled in one? seems contradictory. I dont like the other sigcampaign holders that accepting newbie and besides Im not rushing. I will wait for a Jr. Member Rank then I will enroll to signature campaign. Just love to post here in this forum even without signature campaign. Why not buying some full member account may be around 0.05-0.07, in a week you can get your ROI back already, rather than waiting to become Jr. member and full member payout is better than Jr member. You can try to search it from digital goods tab https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0Yep yep I know that. I dont have enough resources as of now thats why I focused on faucets and to my forum account. I need time and I dont rush . Someday I can reached the peak of the mountain. Its good if you have that thought but the faster you get the account the faster you will earn it. At first I have same thought with you but later my friend told me then I realize and spend some fiat to buy it first later you will have your ROI just in no time |
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In my opinion bit coin has all the properties of gold plus extra which just improves it.
Nope, bitcoin is winning about its technology, and the speed of transcation and yes the volatile price and there is nothing else It is difficult to change the of people to invest in bitcoins either invest in gold. Both have their own values ,bitcoins need support mainly due to market demand,increased investments and network effect. Similarly, gold has set a standard in the economy and it is going to maintain it in the future too. On comparing, Bitcoin is ideal for everyday transaction and gold is still important in rebuilding the economy. Its true both of them have their own values, but gold is kind of promising investment if you compared to bitcoin. I dont know what people said about bitcoin but what I do know is bitcoin is just some kind of short investment but gold is a long investment. I didnt say you can't invest both, may be you can diversify it but you must take a deep closer look which one is really worth to invest |
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If bitcoin succeeds, even 10 coins will change your life. Putting 2500$ into a groundbreaking technology is not that risky imho.
what doesn't seem risky for you might be completely different for other people. especially if you consider how many people don't have more than 0.5btc in total. only because of the 1200 manipulation, that thing scared the shit out of average newbie investors, and now no one is trusting bitcoin anymore bitcoin as a retirement still look one of the best option right now, along with gold, but while one has a good chance to rise, the other not so much one can do 25% bitcoin and 75% gold, to remain in the safe zone 'If there is no one trusting in bitcoin anymore' Do you mean new member? But there are still a price movement from bitcoin that means people are still using it in trading and there are still a lot of gambling site to gamble your bitcoin I dont think there is no trust here in bitcoin. Many people are still believe the price will rise |
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Hi Bjorn. I already tested your new games, it is easy to get the multiply there but I think there is some kind of bug, when I spam rain bet, he result doesnt come out so I can't check my result which number do I hit
Can you please be more precise? What do you mean by "the result doesn't come out" and "I can't check my result which number do I hit"? Thanks ... Edit: Oh, I see what you mean ... you mean that balance doesn't get updated? If so, yes, that's a bug. If you mean something else please specify. Yes thats right, sorry for my bad english here. I can't really specify that moment when my balance doesnt get updated. I will reply later if there is more bug here. Thanks for the quick response That's what he meant I believe. He logged the rolls for you as well (22984651; 22984355; 22982854) in case you want to evaluate it further
Thanks ranlo for helping me to get that number |
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earning everyday posting on this forum, signature campaigns are probably the easiest way to earn bitcoins aside form actual work.
Agree 100%. No risk at all. if youre agreeing 100%, why aren't you enrolled in one? seems contradictory. I dont like the other sigcampaign holders that accepting newbie and besides Im not rushing. I will wait for a Jr. Member Rank then I will enroll to signature campaign. Just love to post here in this forum even without signature campaign. Why not buying some full member account may be around 0.05-0.07, in a week you can get your ROI back already, rather than waiting to become Jr. member and full member payout is better than Jr member. You can try to search it from digital goods tab https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0 |
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oops did you used some bots which are selling in market at cheap rates?
You can save remaining money By control on gamble at satoshimines
Do not Greed too much IF you are losing many times at same Site then Stop Playing and relax
theres just no point to use a bot or strategy, as theres no way to beat the house and you will end up losing after some time The point of using bot or any kind of strategy is to prevent you from greediness, you can try to set everything that you want then just sit an relax and pray not get busted, if busted try again tmorow may be that day is not your day The way to beat the house is whenever you are on profit you already beat the house, eventhough it is only 1 sat . Some people are too greedy want to get 1 btc or more, with that he is satisfied. My saying here try to play safe although it is around 1k satoshi or 100k it is better than minus |
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yes there is a safe way with low risk involved on it but well cant be shared here only by pm and well there is already deposits of almost 4 btc and total around 12 btc already
I dont think there will be a safe way in any kind of gambling, may be you can give us some proof that you really have a solid strategy in gambling, I never found a really solid strategy except on martingale, even though martingale is good but it never had a good ending well proof isnt possible as my income stays on my balance ,that i can witdraw it anytime ,but well its safe and isnt gambling.My advice is never invest more than can afford to loose ,soo this way i had invested and well the returning is coming very fast ,i cant share my vision or where my money is invested otherwise anybody would be able to use it and maybe became harder to make a good income.about double money well isnt in the short time is medium time . So if it is not a gambling what it is then? There is no other safer method to get easy bitcoin like that. Your saying is this bitcoin is an easy money to get and it is perfectly safe, I dont think there will be any safest method in this entire world |
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Would be better to just buy it You'll probably go in saying "ok just 10k bitcoins" but come out with much more. However, if the price goes up that high... noones gonna buy that much bitcoin from you and it will take some time for it to all go down. Also noone will be using bitcoin because you took em all. What are you saying? If bitcoin trend is going up again why we should not buy? It will get profit too if we bought that? So it doesnt matter the price up or down. What we need here is profit so people will follow the trend to buy how high the price is Also noone will be using bitcoin because you took em all.
The more stable the price more people will use it and be knownable to others. So high price is a must in bitcoin |
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How about trading it on altcoins? I`m sure there are many many good altcoin investment, now only a few cent cost, later it can be worth thousands of dollars!
Alt coin trading is the hardest and riskiest investment. If you have less knowledge about the alt coin you might end losing more. Kinda like another form of gambling which depends on your luck and skill. It is not hard if you try to search and learn it. Yes it is risky but the payout is good so it is worth enough. With gambling you need a lot of funds but trading you will not need that much, you just need to be patient and have faith and it is safer than gambling If you know how to do the pumped and dumped methods in trading or selling altcoins, i think its so very easy to used that method because you just only need to do is keep waiting until the price of altcoins goes up and then sell your coins more than you bought in. And believe that your coins will be bought by the buyers.
Altcoin is risky and it is not worth enough to be pumped or dump. Pick a good altcoin then do the mining, so later if price is high just dump it. This is just one try investment, mining done then sell, I guess most people do this kind of thing to earn fast. After done dumping all you coin you can start a new mining again actually i like more dash than litecoin
I guess litecoin demands is much more than dash which is litecoin trading is faster than dash so why dashcoin? |
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