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5501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next 5 year for Bitcoin on: October 17, 2017, 02:47:14 AM
after release bitcoin 9 years running. but bitcoin increasing or increasing.so anyone have good opinion for next five year about bitcoin? feel freee and drop your opinion.
thanks

There are a lot of external factors to consider when speculating the price of bitcoins in the next 5 years. No one can actually predict its final value due to its volatile nature, but I do see bitcoin in the positive side in the next 5 years assuming that there will be no ICO banning on other countries, hard forks, or even prohibition from other countries. By looking it at the long-term perspective, it is paramount to invest right now if you aim on earning profit significantly. But do reminded that there is also the chance of its price decreasing without sudden notice.
5502  Economy / Economics / Re: Was Bitcoin actually just a Pump and Dump? on: October 16, 2017, 05:35:51 PM
Yes of course, although today prices are going up tremendously, but this can never guarantee it will continue to rise, maybe after reaching the highest price then the price will drop as many users are profit taking.
sometimes i think about the same way as you , that there always a reason behind the price so unexpectedly rising up , it will cost you a lot later when the price go down so hard. a market like this will always about pump and dump.

just the matter who do that and since bitcoin are anonymous , we can not figure out who are they actually.

Well I consider "hard forks" as pump and dump since it dramatically decreases the price of bitcoins, thus making it the perfect opportunity for investors to hoard coins for future investments. But to answer your question, personally bitcoin is not a pump-and-dump due to the fact that it got its reputation based on its nature being decentralized and volatile. Before, many people tried risking their investments into bitcoin and to their avail their risks paid-off. Also if bitcoin's reputation was caused by pump and dump, then I doubt that its price would not reach $1000.
5503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum is the future of crypto, bitcoin is not. on: October 16, 2017, 09:50:24 AM
I don not think this is true. I think that actualy the brighter future is in Bitcoin hands. Ethereum will also rise it is the second pick for me but you still cannot compare it with BTC.
Yes, I also prefer in bitcoin.Etherium is the future of cryptocurrency?  I think it's just a rumor or rather always a rumor because bitcoin was created if I'm not mistaken in the year 2009 and tested many years.Etherium was just started at the year of 2014,etherium is doing good right now.But  I can't still say that etherium is better than bitcoin.


Both are considered the future of cryptocurrencies due to the endless possibilities and potentials of their price increasing in the future, but bitcoin will reign over the years due to its exposure and reputation around the world. We need to consider first the factors on why bitcoin became famous especially the number of investors who already are rich due to bitcoin. If you were to ask a question to a stranger regarding the existence of bitcoin or ethereum, most of the time he/she will answer that they heard bitcoin over the news, televisions, or magazines.
5504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will bitcoin end? on: October 16, 2017, 08:00:35 AM
Bitcoin right now keeps on increasing its value, and many more cryptocurrencies are occurring.
Do you think someday bitcoin will end or will be replace by other cryptocurrencies?

Is it too late to invest?
Is there a chance that bitcoin will be down?

Anything in this world have their respective time-clock as nothing is constant. Bitcoin's life may be limited depending on the circumstances that will happen in the future, especially if countries will start to ban its transactions and utilization. I believe that bitcoin cannot be supersede by any other cryptocurrencies since it has already established its name internationally.

Never is it too late to invest into bitcoins since its volatile nature may increase/decrease the price without any notice. The price of bitcoin tomorrow might be higher compared today, and that is why it is never too late to invest.
5505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are so many people against bitcoin? on: October 16, 2017, 12:58:01 AM
I'm trying to understand why are so many people against bitcoin?  is it the innovation that scares them? the feeling of staying behind? the fact that that money will go to the wrong hands?


It's not that many people are against it, most are just afraid of investing in it. Due to its decentralized and volatile nature, its price may change without sudden notice. Not to mention, the guarantee of security compared to other investments are lower since it is impossible to regulate bitcoin. In line with the said reasons, most people are skeptical into this high-risk, high-reward investment. They rather choose the safe option in order to avoid losing all of their money. Lastly, I guess that due to its increasing popularity, there are news spreading about its disadvantages attempting to destroy its existence because of the potential threat it affected banks and other companies related thereto.
5506  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Cryptocurrency regulation? on: October 15, 2017, 05:34:58 PM
No doubt about the future of fiat money: it's gonna be replaced by cryptocurrencies.
But does virtual money need a REGULATOR?

First, you need to understand the concept behind cryptocurrencies and their nature being decentralized and volatile (for bitcoin's case). Due to its nature, it is impossible to regulate bitcoin and predict the final outcome of its price. In the even that bitcoins were to be regulated by the government, then expect that it will be imposed with tax due to the sheer volume of users who transact with it, and the price might even be less volatile.

In the positive side, it may attract more people especially to the ones who have their doubts since they have the guarantee of security due to the intervention of the government. But also expect that there is the tendency for current investors to drop their investment because it defeats purpose of the investment, being less volatile. Bitcoin may not be different from any other investments like bank interests, stocks, etc. and the only factor that separates it is being digital and virtual.
5507  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC passes $5,000 USD milestone on: October 15, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
I think it has to do with the upcoming fork, you will get bitcoin gold and also a possible fork in November.
That is really amazing and I am so happy after hearing that news that bitcoin is able to reach $5,000 and those people who hold up their bitcoins will be very excited and I know many of people will sell their bitcoins to get money and sell this bitcoin on a high price but we don’t need to be so greedy my point is to hold our btc to make real money after some time because price of bitcoins is going to rise again and this will be a miracle.
It is not a miracle, it is normal when the demand always increase more on the market. You have to remember the price of Bitcoin will decrease or increase by the demand of investors. If Bitcoin has not them, even it never has value.

We can't say the price will always increase sometimes it also decrease too it is mainly based on the demand of bitcoin.I think nowadays more people started to invest on bitcoin that's why the price keeps increasing.

Yesterday, the bitcoin's price reached up to $5800 and right now, it has been on the $5400-$5500 area. You are definitely right about what keeps its price growing. Since there are people who invest into bitcoin daily, its price continues to rise especially when considering other external factors as well like the acceptance of bitcoin over some countries, new investors daily, and rising of retailers that accept it as payment. Its price might even reach the $6000 mark by the end of the year if this continues on. Be reminded also that despite the increases, there is always the potential of the price decreasing without notice so take caution in every news.
5508  Economy / Economics / Re: How much money do you have left from your job? on: October 15, 2017, 08:24:35 AM
I want to talk about salaries. How much $ do you have left after paying taxes, rent, and basic expenses (electricity, water)
I get $10 000/y like a fucking slave
My spending basic is $5 000 / year, including food, $2 500 without food
I live in the former SSSR
Another reason to move away

Also they give me these communistic so called "benefits" when you get like prepaid cards for predefined services

https://www.facebook.com/televize.polar/videos/1047399295339540/



As of now my salary is only enough for me and i am only in a minimum wage in my country so i cant save for my future and i badly need and extra income so a friend of me recommend this site to earn bitcoin for an extra income so i did not hesitate to join in this site to earn bitcoin as well so right now i am only expecting bitcoin for me to be able to save money for my future.

Though I do not have any job yet since I am a college student, my mother gives me monthly money to spend according to my discretion. Sometimes, there are moments that I exhaust half of my money at the first week of the month, and that poses a problem of me managing it. But I take it as an opportunity to practice managing and saving my money in order to be more responsible when I get a job in the future. Fortunately, the weekly payments that I get from my campaign signature defeats the purpose of engaging into a side-job to earn extra income, since it might compromise the time I needed for my studies.
5509  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Inherit coins to my family after passed away on: October 15, 2017, 05:45:18 AM
That may be possible in the near future and KYC are going to be the next thing to ensure more improvement to cryptocurrecy as a whole. Or simply just let our family members know about the account details in case anything happen?

Explaining bitcoin as an investment is easy to understand since it totally falls under the aspect of any other investments (bank investments, bills, treasuries etc.). Regardless of the value of bitcoins in the future, it is still an inheritance that forms as a bonus. They have the authority whether to spend it, or keep it in taking advantage of its volatility. Regarding your question, you can always keep your coin in a wallet that is commonly-used by most individuals in order to reduce the risk of scamming in the long-run or you can also create multiple wallets if you think that it will solve the problem of scamming or hacking.
5510  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: do i have to pay tax on bitcoins ? on: October 15, 2017, 04:00:58 AM
so i wanna know do i realy have to pay taxes on bitcoins and does my gov recognize bitcoins as my property and do i have to care about any legal action by  gov on my bitcoin property ?

The answer is no. Since bitcoin's decentralized nature provides anonymity when transacting, the government of each country cannot regulate its transactions thus invalidating tax implementation on it. The government also does not own bitcoin, as it is a separate entity distinguished from other types of currencies and services and internationally recognized as an investment due to its volatile nature. In the Philippines, the government said that they see bitcoin as property, therefore not subject to legal tender (payment of debts etc.).
5511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: losing 50 bitcoins gambling on: October 15, 2017, 02:57:58 AM
How would you feel if you lost 50 btc after gambling... https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/92ff9f2dmRCeSttM0U0a1dPZ0tTSDd4OW4vZz09/r/2744 What's the biggest loss you've taken before, and do you have any good coping strategies? I do wonder if it's better or not to express anger or to just try and ignore it as best as possible. Personally I just get angry and yell some swears, but curious how other people react when losing and any tips on coping.

In the event that I lost 50 bitcoins in a gamble, then I would inevitably be depressed and reflect on my actions as an individual with priorities. That is primarily the reason why gambling has the potential in destroying your life when it comes to decision making. It creates this endless illusion of you betting and betting again regardless of your winnings or losings. Gambling can never be profitable in the long-run and that link is the living example of it especially when YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO STOP gambling.
5512  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin wallet be hacked by hackers? on: October 15, 2017, 02:19:25 AM
can they hack into our wallet. There are many professional hackers out there. What are the chances? Also what is the safest way to safeguard ourself?

By taking into consideration the wallet of bitcoins being on the internet, then it is always subject to hacking. Though being digital may be inclined towards technological advancement, what hinders its success is the tendency for it to be hacked. That is why digital currencies cannot be at the moment, be the main medium of exchange and replace fiat. Personally, I suggest that you keep your bitcoins in separate wallets in order to reduce and avoid the risks of losing all of your investments. It may not be the best advice but it surely fixes the problem.
5513  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What type of wallet do you use? on: October 14, 2017, 02:05:11 PM
I used web wallet. To be honest, it is the only type of wallet that I know and the type that I am familiar with. It is very convenient to me since I am always online and I always used my laptop. I have just started reading about hardware wallet and I am still wondering how it can be more secure and more reliable than the type I am currently using. I am really curious and interested to know more about it.


We're on the same page. The only wallet that I am knowledgeable about is a web-wallet. Fortunately, my country provides a web-wallet that is commonly-used by most of my country men as it provides different modes of payment and options to cash-in, or cash-out my bitcoins. Since the wallet that I am using is on the internet by nature, there is always the potential of losing everything in the event that the website will be scammed.

Personally, I suggest that you divide your bitcoins into multiple wallets to reduce the risk of losing everything in one-go. Though the risk might increase, at least the value that you lost is lower compared if you put all into one wallet only.
5514  Economy / Economics / Re: Are cryptocurrencies better than regular currency on: October 14, 2017, 12:29:52 PM
If bitcoin is used worldwide i consider it a yes.  But now, a large portion of the population is not familiar with it especially in those in 3rd world country like mine.  Tangible cash is still consider the best. We can use bitcoin in our country if we convert it to cash.
Bitcoin is not going to be adopted with the same speed in all the countries of the world, most of the time the richer countries adopt new technologies first and then poorer countries follow them, so take advantage that not may people in your country know about bitcoin and make money that way.

This is what I am talking about countless times before adapting digital currency around the world. It is true that in the near future, the technology will inevitable advance towards the digital revolution but we need to consider that there are still developing countries focused on fixing their current problems regarding the economy, rather than prioritizing internet connection across their country. Every country's advancement and progression is different from each other. Hegemonic countries like the U.S.A and Japan (in terms of economy) have their goals inclined towards technological innovation compared to countries that are on the short end of the stick.
5515  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin without China on: October 14, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
I am 100% sure convinced that the success of bitcoin doesn't rely on the goodwill of a certain country, except they would have the power for a 51% attack.

Even if a government will prohibit local exchanges, the citizens have still the option to send money abroad and buy bitcoin there or there will be local traders or they will find other ways to buy bitcoin.
The fact is that bitcoin has become quite popular today and even thanks to the media, a lot of information reaches the common man. The fact that the crypto currency starts to trade not only professionals but also beginners is no secret. I think that this trend will continue And the demand for Bitcoin will rise every day. And this, in turn, will greatly affect its price.


Though China has the most number of ICOs and investors due to its sheer volume of population, I still believe that one country alone cannot decide the fate of bitcoin especially when considering the number of countries that are beginning to accept it as an alternative way of payment. Looking at Japan, their government is starting to accept ICOs in their country and at the same time supporting bitcoin transactions by providing services that accept it as payment. The number of countries that accept bitcoin as a payment dictate its volatility in price and reputation. Soon, more retailers will accept it as a mode of payment.
5516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people try to create their own coins? on: October 14, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
There are so many coins, but many of them just a copy of anothers. Why they waste their time for nothing? Grin

Like any other businesses, the primary goal is for the realization of profit whether for short or long-term. Other cryptocurrencies besides ethereum and bitcoin were created primarily for profit, regardless of their main goal. Many ICOs are starting to boom since there are a lot of investors willing to take the risk into earning profit. Most of them aim to earn only for short-term due to the risks involved into participating into these coins. But before you invest, make sure that you do your research in order to avoid scamming, as it is rampant nowadays.
5517  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 14, 2017, 03:31:11 AM
I personally think it is possible to some extent. Cryptocurrencies may not stop banks altogether but certainly, take down the majority of them. Once local and online stores start to accept cryptocurrencies in larger scale things will explode to our favor. Why use a merchant account to accept credit cards when there are so much credit card scams? Big companies lose money because people pretending they didn't get package even though it says delivered in tracking number they can still get away with it. It's things like this that will make businesses want to use a service that protects them from fraud, and that something is cryptocurrencies. There's a couple of good ones that provide anonymity which are Dash and Monero. However, there's another cryptocurrency that just came out called DeepOnion everyone should look into.

Well, it is inevitable in the future that every country will adapt to the changes on the technology. Soon, our world will incline towards the digital aspect of currency, which gives an edge to bitcoin in terms of payment. But be reminded that in order to achieve this ideal future, each country must develop and adapt to the current system which I think that poses a problem.

Each country have their own social standing, whether they are developed or still at the developing stage. If we suddenly implement digital currency and remove fiat, this would create chaos regarding the economy. Bitcoin can never make banks disappear at its current stage as their are still countries that prioritize fixing their corruption rather than having internet access across.
5518  Economy / Economics / Re: Will bitcoin change the distribution of wealth in the world? on: October 14, 2017, 12:59:02 AM
Does anyone have information whether bitcoin would distribute wealth more equally across people than the current wealth distribution?

Or would the distribution be even more unfair?

Technological advancement is inevitable in the future in considering the phase of changing everything to digital ideally. Slowly, the developed countries are inclined to that change and are already developing mechanisms to be ready for that change. But the problem lies on countries that are still developing and are on the weaker side of the edge. Their priorities as of now are focused on how to fix their country, rather than providing internet access across their country. This would lead to chaos in the economics if we suddenly change our fiats to digital money.
5519  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Not Declaring Bitcoin Income on: October 13, 2017, 09:01:06 AM
Here in my country which is now an upcoming tiger economy (though we are still classified as a third-world country), we are free to participate in Bitcoin both buying and selling as the government is treating Bitcoin just like any other foreiign money.

However, I am sure that only a very, very small fraction of us are declaring our Bitcoin income. It seems to me that the government is not that interested to get strict with individuals as long as they can tax the Bitcoin exchange provider for the service rendered.

I am then wondering the situation with other countries. Can your government really be able to track if you never declared gains made from Bitcoin transactions?

Well in my country's case, my friend interviewed the lawyer at our Central Bank and they said that bitcoin is treated as property, therefore not subject to legal tender. Applying your situation, it is indeed impossible to track down bitcoin transactions by applying its decentralized nature. The government also does not want to interfere yet involving some transactions because their are only a few number of people who know bitcoin. Currently, it helps the economy by making it liquid and by increasing the money supply on the market.
5520  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: October 13, 2017, 06:46:38 AM
I'm not interested in teaching kids about bitcoin, let them play as usual in childhood. if they are taught about bitcoin, they will be difficult to socialize
Yes I have the same idea that kid are not suppose to learn bit coin because it will be not understandable to them as their studies are their first priority so should concentrate only o their studies and their parent are suppose to learn it and earn more and more money for their better future.

You don't teach kids directly about bitcoin and the blockchain technology as it is very complex and difficult to understand. Instead, you teach them the value of money and saving to prepare them while they grow-up. You can explain them the basic principle behind saving money and the advantages of it. In that way, they would adapt to the system and probably try to save money for their own expense. That's what my parents did when I was a child and not to boast anything, currently I have saved up enough money in the bank for my law studies.
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