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5101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency education in high school on: April 30, 2018, 02:16:17 AM
I think this is too early for High school students but the right time for college students, but overall this is great for the crypto community. This will certainly affect the future of Crypto currency market, since they have at least a basic knowledge how blockchain works. Unlike the older people today that has a closed mind thinking that Bitcoin/altcoin is just another scam. This students will be the future investors and will surely make the crypto currency market stay for the future.

Technically, high school is where most students tend to discover their passion about their lives, which is the crucial stage for determining their future. Teaching at least a background in cryptocurrency on high school will supplement the students with the right understanding and knowledge if they want to pursue such degree in the future. Not to mention, with the digitalized age slowly embracing into the world, who knows that maybe in the future countries will adapt electronic money and dispose the paper money system.

As the saying goes "start them young" and this is very true.
I don't think that's true for crypto and youth, though.  Bitcoin hasn't quite achieved wide adoption yet, and most people still question whether it's necessary.  If you tell the average person about bitcoin, they'll ask you what it's used for.  If you tell them you can buy things with it, they'll ask you how you get it.  You then have to tell them that it has to be bought on an exchange.  Then they'll ask why you'd want to go to an exchange to buy a currency in order to spend it, when the cash dollars in their pocket is much quicker and has no transaction fees involved.  If you happen to mention that you have to pay fees to miners and that you have to wait for transaction confirmation, they'll likely tell you that they're not interested.  This exact conversation has happened with me, which is why I'm writing it.

Kids don't really need to be educated about crypto, in my opinion.  If it has any staying power, they'll either pick it up or they won't.  I think education about economics in general is more important.  Maybe the mathematics behind crypto would be more appropriate, but that's about it.

You are right but I have my reservations. Being able to exposed them at an early age about cryptocurrency would give them the idea behind how it works. Due to the hype of media, I guess that most of these students have an idea about what bitcoin is but not about its function and use. Most of them know about its skyrocketing price but the they tend to ignore the actual use of it, which is to provide convenience in transactions and not just some investment tool.
5102  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Ideas on de-centralized regulation. on: April 29, 2018, 04:26:15 AM

   Can you have regulatory bodies function without centralized authority?   sort of like a union.  Can this be monetized in a way that's fair and consensual?   I think most of us in this space have some beef with regulators, but it's becoming apparent that some self-regulating needs to happen.   I think it's an important discussion, would love to hear any ideas on the topic.

A lot of implications will happen if cryptocurrencies were to be regulated in the future.
Frst, prices would be somehow stable and less-volatile since it will be regulated by government-created departments or institutions;
Second, the government will need to accept its legality and function into the society and other countries must conform with this acceptance for a wide-scale implementation;
Third, it will benefit the general public and the government economically, as it may provide job opportunities and employment if they offer cryptocurrency-related work or matters; and
Fourth, since prices would be less-volatile, expect its price to decrease in some point wherein investors would look for another alternative to earn income.

5103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Warren Buffett on buying bitcoin: 'That is not investing' on: April 29, 2018, 02:25:32 AM
Technically, bitcoin is considered as an asset wherein people would acquire it hoping that its price would skyrocket in a given amount of time. Some countries (like the Philippines) even considered it as a property and not legal tender!
Compared to other investment mechanisms, acquiring bitcoin has the highest total yield of interest in a short amount of time. But what makes bitcoin different is its nature and regulation. It is intangible, volatile (which is subject to country prohibitions, etc.), unpredictable and decentralized.

I do understand where he is coming from as most famous investors are inclined into the traditional way of investing but everything has to start from somewhere. Bitcoin can be regarded as the next type of investment in the digital age where it has the potential of becoming a standard currency in the future.
5104  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can one trade without losing?? on: April 29, 2018, 12:07:29 AM
I looked at my pc screen 247, 20 hours out of the 24 hours in a day. I am familiar with all the trading signs like hammer,  inverted hammer, doji. But even with these I still lost while trading. Most times, I decided not to trade without news from a particular project but even with a huge news like partnership, burning folks, I end up still losing.
What's really the cause? And how can I trade without losing much?

In my opinion, there will be a phase wherein it is inevitable for an individual to lose while trading as it becomes your teacher/leaning experience to improve all sorts of methods and strategies. If you are a beginner in trading, you are really bound by the natural law to lose resources at some trades. Despite being diligent, intelligent, patient and keen, you are bound to lose somewhere along the road. Due to that error, that is the time where you will develop strategies and techniques in order to prevent or at least mitigate the damage of your trades.

The trader should have a good source of information and a good amount of money to back up what ever he/she might lose in other trades that he/she would do,
The trader also needs a good skill on studying the market and a good intuition about the market.

I agree. A trader should know all the risks that he/she is putting himself into as you are playing your resources with the presence of risks. It is impossible for someone to not lose money in the process of trading. Everyone has to start from somewhere, even millionaires fail on their attempts. It is in the matter of attitude on how you deal and cope with these problems.
5105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling: The Seven Deadly Sins on: April 28, 2018, 07:45:57 PM
Gambling is part of life, but if you gamble Bitcoin means you want to take the risk it's because gambling can give you two option. Be poor or be rich. Waste your money in gambling without even thinking your needs then your done, but gambling with wise decision then your okay with it. We cannot just conclude what gamblers feel, it always depends to what we want to do. Don't gamble with shitcoins always gamble with pure one.
Yeah, we certainly cannot conclude what gamblers feel since everyone will certainly know what makes them feel right or not, however, greed is the worst of all the sins of every gambler. So many people who have been gambling today and ended up turning into addicts ended up doing so as a result of their greedy nature. Gambling finds a way to tap into some part of your thoughts and if you allow it to take full control based on how you perceive it, then, you are done for.

Regardless of whatever reason that is, gambling ultimately results to someone being poor or rich mentally/financially. Most of the gamblers gamble due to the hope that they are clinging to, meaning they view it as a way of alleviating their financial struggle by relying on an unpredictable means of acquiring money. Gambling creates this illusion wherein an individual is stuck on an endless loop, thinking that they can lift themselves up from their current position to a better position financially. But in the end, it only makes their situation worse, not just financially but also spiritually and mentally.

because it is forbidden by religion. so if I think before it's too late it's better to stay gambling game it's because gambling is one of the unloved jobs above

Well, some religion do frown at gambling, but that does not make it evil or anything related to it. If you are not performing any fraud, scam or a hoax, but play a fair game, then you are good. Gambling is a game and shouldn't be considered as a job, because there is a possibility of winning and also a possibility of not winning. One shouldn't depend on it for living.

I agree. Relying your financial status on an unpredictable outcome would only result to an individual losing more and making his situation worse. If one is stuck on this problem but he/she thinks that they can lift themselves out from this situation, then there is this conundrum that is present.
5106  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin in developing countries on: April 28, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
at present, bitcoin is becoming known to people around the world, especially in developing countries. the majority of bitcoin is introduced through news on television and on the internet. Therefore people are starting to want to know what bitcoin is and if it appeals to them, they will invest instead?
Well the government should not be silent on bitcoin, they think bitcoin is disrupting economic stability and there will be inflation in the country.
Do you think that bitcoin will disrupt economic stability and there will be inflation due to bitcoin in a country?

The only time that inflation would take place is when they adapt bitcoin as its standard currency in a country. Bitcoin, in developing countries, has benefitted them economically due to various reasons, such as:

  • Bitcoin has provided numerous job opportunities for under all classes in the society;
  • It has been made as an alternative to all people in earning extra income;
  • Most developing countries have started to accept bitcoin as an alternative means in paying monthly obligations due to its convenience and it has benefitted the economic; and
  • Bitcoin can contribute positively on the liquidity of a country's economy.

Despite all of these positive effects, some countries still fail to adapt bitcoin as an alternative currency due to political and economical reasons relative to the country. Lastly, I believe that bitcoin can be made as an alternative currency in the future due to its platform- the blockchain technology, may be further developed and explored to maximize its benefits.
5107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins for illegal activity on: April 28, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
From recent news in India it is heard that bitcoins are used to sell drugs..I know its a currency and it is also used as a normal money... but these can create a bad space in people's mind that bitcoins are used to sell drugs..so they will not use bitcoins... Conclusion is that BTC is also a currency which is having a high value in the market..and bitcoins must not be used in these illegal activity which can reduce its usage and value.

Generally, the nature of bitcoin is its decentralized nature and volatility. Bitcoin has been used as the main currency under the dark web in purchasing illegal products, activities, services and drugs. Since it is decentralized, the government cannot regulate its usage and utilization under the market- which explains its volatile price. This is the reason on why some countries prohibit the use of such since it affects their criminality, especially in underdeveloped countries.

bitcoin is made to simplify many things there are people who use it in a positive way there is also a negative, very unfortunate there are people who use it negatively it will damage the good name bitcoin.
The name of bitcoin has the reputation and if there is illegal activity it is not bitcoins fault you need to look at the people using wrongly the bitcoins.

Due to existential crisis and media, it created a stigma towards the usage of bitcoin, which resulted to world-wide prohibitions of some hegemonic countries that significantly reduced its price before. Well, this depends on how each individual views bitcoin, whether for investment purposes or as an alternative currency.
5108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is better than gold on: April 28, 2018, 10:52:34 AM
From an investment point of view, bitcoin is more about gold than it is about other currencies. That's because as an asset, bitcoin and gold have a lot in common. Both are limited to supply, both have functions to use, and many believe that, despite their large price fluctuations, they remain a good store of value. Compared to gold and currency investment returns in the past five years, the currency's performance is far better than the so-called precious metals, gold year loss than 6%, the currency of the annualized rate of return is 155%. These rich returns show that bitcoin has excited investors about the prospect of putting money into such a new asset class.

Compared with the gold standard, the value of the currency rising and proven performance, investors can be used to measure the investment of the world's leading digital currency future opportunity and risk indicators.


Though bitcoin may be better than gold in the perspective of yielding income or for investment purposes but there is ONE thing that bitcoin lacks, which is COLLATERAL and SECURITY. Remember that gold has been around ever since time immemorial and people considered it as the boon of investment. Another thing to consider is that gold has been backed and regulated by the government in order to prevent abuses.
In adherence to this, bitcoin's value is very volatile- meaning its price may vary without any given notice. Not to mention, the current status of bitcoin is sensitive wherein if a country prohibits its utilization then its price would be significantly affected.

Lastly, gold is an tangible asset compared to bitcoin, which is intangible.
5109  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you keep yourself from spending on unimportant things? on: April 27, 2018, 05:09:07 AM
I dont know if it is just me or others also experience it. I always set goals financially, set limits in spending and trying hard to save but most of the time no matter how i tell myself to refrain from spending in unnecessary things whenever i see something i really like even if i dont need it i cant resist buying it that cause me to regret later. Are you familiar with this situation?

You need to distinguish your NEEDS from your WANTS and you need to establish a financial goal and a concrete plan towards your daily-monthly expenditures. Mostly, it really boils down to your perspective and attitude on how you handle your finances. Typically, people usually spend more if they have the means of sustaining themselves. If you feel like you are spending too much, then the realization would help you into learning your lesson to not SPEND MORE.
Basically, self-control and self-discipline should govern your mind so you could manage your resources better.

In my opinion and based on what I am doing. I read books about finance and other related topic about money that is wrote by rich person or a group. Through time as I read it I learned their way which is keeping myself focus and do not let your money get distracted.

Thank you for pointing that out. Reading learning materials in relevance to financing can improve the basic financing of an individual. You should maximize your resources in order to sustain your knowledge about financing.
5110  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Taking Courses to learn about Bitcoin on: April 25, 2018, 02:19:56 PM
Has anyone taken a course online on sites like Udemy to learn about bitcoin? I just received a coupon to enroll in a bitcoin course for free. Would it be worth the time?
If anyone has any experience, do share.

I believe that there are certain universities that accept and offer extra-courses and electives relevant to the development of bitcoin and the blockchain technology. The question is, will that make a difference? Absolutely. Currently, the blockchain technology is a complex system that contains a plethora of unknown details and information, yet to be discovered by scholars or professionals. Having enough knowledge for the development and enhancement of cryptocurrency would benefit not only the market but also the system. People may discover breakthroughs that may affect its price, or even convince the government to adapt to the digital payment.
5111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: April 25, 2018, 10:59:01 AM
I am not a veteran in this gambling industry so trying to understand what majority of the people thinks about it.

I have seen a lot of threads in this section as well as in other online forums which always protrayes gambling as a negative line of earning money online. I have seen people comparing gambling with alcohol addiction. I have seen people actively trying to discourage others from getting into gambling industry. What's wrong with gambling?

It is just another business and also legal in many countries. People who buys lottery tickets are also gambling only.

 In trading industry, you bet on your speculation and in gambling industry, you bet on your luck. In both trading and gambling, there is a risk of loosing money. So why trading is seen as a good way of making money and exactly opposite for gambling?

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?


Two perspectives: the business side and the individual.
For the business, gambling can be very profitable as it attracts mostly users of legal age, and people who have the monetary means. With its name, gambling is also a risk to most casinos as it purely revolves around luck. But mostly, some gamblers tend to over commit their boundaries resulting to an influx of betting which ultimately leads to their downfall. Regardless of what the status may be, a gambler would always go back to a casino.

For the perspective of an individual, gambling is a double-edged sword wherein one may profit from it depending on their luck, and others may feel that the odds are not on their favor. The problem with most gamblers is that, some think that gambling may solve their financial struggles or needs by relying their money on risks. This creates a problem to the society since it creates this endless loop of them going in-and-out of casinos hoping to recover their losses.
Another perspective are mainly for the gamblers who see it purely for entertainment. They gamble primarily for leisure. Regardless of their winnings/loss they typically do not care.
5112  Economy / Economics / Re: Diversify Investments on: April 25, 2018, 09:45:06 AM
Usually they recommend you to diversify your investment, so you avoid losses.

But as a real approach, having $1.5k, would you invest in how many cryptocurrencies ?

What if I invest little by little, only in Bitcoin, would that work as well ?

This is what I tell most newbie investors to diversify their investments in cryptocurrencies. Now, there burden is to look, observe, and research about the cryptocurrency that they would want to invest on as it requires extensive patience to look for the right investment. Bitcoin, as the reigning cryptocurrency in the market and at the price, should be their priority when it comes to choosing. Ripple and Ethereum are also good choices as they have shown positive results over the past few months.

If you invest $1,500, you will gain 0.16 btc (I used the current price of bitcoin which is $9,300). Assuming that after a month, the price of bitcoin increased up to $11,000, your investment of $1,500 will gain at least $300 of profit. This is all assuming that you withdrew and exchanged your coins back to dollars. Now, think if you acquired 1 bitcoin during its $9300- now that's a profit!
5113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin market has already hit bottom for 2018 on: April 25, 2018, 06:56:39 AM
Although bitcoin has the lowest point but bitcoin still has a very high price, and in 2018 this is the price bitcoin will show greatness with price increases to the moon again.

Technically, the volatility of bitcoin is what makes it reign on the market over the past years. Its value may decrease due to certain events and circumstances, but it would recover soon after. The problem nowadays is that, people tend to generalize and conclude that bitcoin will end soon, which I think is far from happening. Just to give you an example, last month the prices of bitcoin were around $7,500. Currently, its price is sitting consistently around $9,500 and will reach $10,000 soon.
That is why, bitcoin may hit the bottom for 2018 but it still is a good investment option for short-term yield/profit.

Bitcoin prices have fallen sharply this year. I believe that by the end of the year it will grow very beautiful. May be $20,000 - $25,000. Same waiting
The recent fall is very big and it wasn't expected by most. However it can also signify that the upcoming pump to come is also big.

It's reaction to the past incident where the rise is also big so the fall for the bottom has been big and luckily it was done. This is now the time for bitcoin to start moving up.

What makes the society skeptical is the media and collective influences from other investors as well. Most newbie investors who do not even know about bitcoin (who just invested without having to search for its background) tend to complain about the recent price drops, where in fact, it is a common scenario in the market. They tend to post threads about 'bitcoin ending in 2018' etc. which makes everyone else skeptical!
5114  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you a full time trader or just part timer? on: April 25, 2018, 06:38:44 AM
I'm just a part time trader as of now i had busy my extra work but maybe in the following months im gonna be full time trader, if full time trader you need the whole day because trading is very risky you need to be focus on it.

Are you sure that you want to become a full-time trader rather than a part-time one? Being employed means having a stable income monthly which can support your trading platforms and devices. Though being a full-time trader may yield better results in terms of monetary value, the risk is higher. Personally I would stick to my current situation and make trading as an alternative method to earn extra income. The skills, knowledge, and abilities you learn inside a company cannot be quantified and replaced as work experience may have the potential of promotion in the long-run.
5115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you still continue? on: April 25, 2018, 06:06:37 AM
What will you do if after losing several times in gambling, you are left with only small amount of money and that money will be for your fuel or for transportation, will you still continue with the little you are left with? What if you lose?

This is what I am talking about ever since.
Gambling creates this illusion wherein someone is stuck on an infinite loop, hoping to recover their losses by gambling again! This mindset is common to most gamblers as they see this process can recover their losses, when in fact, it only worsens their current situation.
When you are stuck on this situation, you need to learn self-discipline in order to know WHEN TO STOP. Since you have nothing to lose anymore as the you have insufficient funds for transportation, might as well go for it and learn from your mistakes. If you win, then stop! If you lose, then stop gambling and move-on.

If I lived near by, I could walk home and take a leap of faith to gamble once more and I'll do my very best not to be pressured so I could win the game. But if I lived like a bus or taxi ride home, maybe I could call a friend or someone to pick me up so I could continue my game. BUT if I'm in another country gambling, I wouldn't want to risk that because I might not be able to get back home to my country.

Most gamblers realize the fruit of their decision once they are stuck on a predicament wherein they have no choice but to pick their poison. Most gamblers that I know learned self-discipline and self-control due to a bad history of losing. That is why, experience is the best teacher in life!
5116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To quit gambling is to quit yourselfn this on: April 25, 2018, 05:29:09 AM
Gamble for free? How are you going to gamble for free ?
Haha gambling for free, this is only applicable if you'll gamble with casino's play money.

Gambling is risking your own money and if you are referring gamble for free as in faucet money thats not even a gamble. If you are not risking anything, thats bullshit for me. You only have very small chance to win but that is enough I think because it is gambling afterall isnt it
Faucet is one of it and this is what I've done before but giving this idea to the gamblers that wants to give up gambling, you'll encourage them instead of quitting.  Grin

Nothing is free in this world as rightly being said. Even if you think you are getting it free their would be some condition apply scenario and thus you will fall in a trap and that free money will become the debt as you will play more to get more money and may end up in a losses .

Nothing is free in this world so the air you breathe isn't free and the land that you walk on isn't free? There are some exceptions if you are saying that quote.

How come that getting a free money will become a debt?


Technically, the money that you earn from faucets have a trade-off, which is effort and time. It may be considered as an ‘easy-money’ but you still committed time on it.
Obviously, there are things in this world which are free and are not. The air, sunlight, shade from a tree, or any natural resource which man did not create are free. About the ‘free money’ scheme, it still isn’t free as like I said, you used time and effort in order to get it.
Gambling is more than money, rather it affects the attitude and mindset of a person wherein it draws your inner desire to gamble more despite what the result may be.
5117  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: BITCOIN IN AFRICA on: April 25, 2018, 04:34:42 AM
Which African countries allow Bitcoin transactions? Is Bitcoin currently used to purchase items in any African country?

I am not really sure on what countries in Africa are applicable in order to embrace bitcoin as an alternative currency, with respect to their economic status and land point. Considering that most countried in Africa are suffering and are categorized as an underdeveloped country, they cannot adapt a digitalized form of payment wherein most of their population does not have access to the internet.
If the government plans on embracing this system, they have to prioritize this over other practical means like infrastructures and technological advancement reforms. I highly doubt about it anytime soon
5118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Buying and Holding the only way? on: April 25, 2018, 03:28:59 AM
i tried to calculate how much would i make from bitcoin mining using an antminer s9, and i don't think it's worth it for me as the cost of electricity is high where i live, which is in the UK (it's 20 cents approx), i make like $300 profit a year. and obviously i can't use faucets as that will take years to get one bitcoin. so is the only way to even get any value from bitcoin is to buy it and hold it on for another few years? but it is a risky investment due to the price. or should i invest in new currencies that are cheap right now and have potential to grow to $4k a coin?  Huh

Diversifying your investments may be a tactic in order to maximize your profits whether for short or long-term perspective. Another method would be participating into campaign signatures as it may provide you bitcoins weekly which are more reliable compared to other methods. Another option would be doing trading or providing services under the market place to people who specifically needs something or someone. There are a lot of ways in order to earn or acquire bitcoin, what comes into place is the right attitude and mindset over it.

if the price is not good, the best option is the holding
if you are able to get profit, please sell your assets
make sure you are not rash in making decisions
Yes I agree, when the price is not as good as it did some time ago then the best solution is buying and holding, but we will soon see a skyrocketing price as the current price has already reached over $ 9800 and it seems less than 24 hours the price will reach $ 10,000 .

My core principle in investing: never to sell/exchange my coins from a price lowered from what I acquired them initially and the only exception would be of an emergency or a financial struggle. Last month, prices of bitcoin were around $7,200 and currently, it is sitting comfortably around $9,000-$9,700. One could have yield profit in a short-term perspective and it might even reach $10,000 like what you mentioned.
5119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin govern the whole world? on: April 25, 2018, 03:05:11 AM
Nowadays bitcoin reach other countries and it is use in some transactions and very helpful in some country's economic.
What you can say?
Can bitcoin govern the world of business market, govern the world of every payments as it is moving to make it the future money.?

In fact, it is the other way around currently!
To answer your question, bitcoin can govern the whole world in the aspect of payment and transactions. Currently, we use the standard form of payment which is fiat for our daily transactions and exchanges. If countries will slowly adapt and embrace the digitalized form of payment in the future, we might use bitcoin as the main ledger or trading platform across all transactions happening.
Though this situation might be ideal, it is far from happening right now due to a number of reasons especially when we focus on the underdeveloped countries (since they cannot fully implement and change their payment structure without prioritizing their technological means).
5120  Economy / Speculation / Re: What causes Bitcoin to drop? on: April 25, 2018, 02:43:53 AM
My opinion is that the whales trying to lower down bitcoin price and have cash out from their investment because they might have meet they're desired price and will reinvest. Other causes might be japan exchanges ceasing operations, US taxing trading exchanges and facebook and google banning ads for crypto currencies and FUD news.

Bitcoin whales certainly have a factor contributing to the decrease in the price of bitcoins as they control most of the market due to the law of supply and demand. If they increase the supply by selling most of their coins, they would be able to manipulate the demand, thus lowering its price. You do also need to consider that government prohibitions among hegemonic countries affect the price of bitcoins to a certain degree. Lastly, media hypes the bitcoin over but it also influences most new and old investors to diversify their investments into different altcoins, which in return, affects the price.
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