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561  Economy / Economics / Re: How to stay poor! on: January 11, 2024, 08:59:34 PM
Lol, you shared some pretty nice tips to stay poor lol 😂
But I am opposite of them all, its a good reminder keep that in check if we are doing something wrong.
Also not investing and taking risk is a best way to stay poor 😂, and not trying learn something new.
OP shared the tips to make people aware of it. People should stay away from the habits if they want to have a better economic level.
It is good if you're the opposite of the tips. It means you live in a proper way, you will have the chance to succeed. Although it also never guarantees for the success, at least we are not a part of people who have poor habits.

Sure, if we don't want to take the risk of the investment, we won't have the chance to succeed with investment. To succeed, someone must have a brave mentality and he mustn't be afraid to deal with challenges. No rich people who only wait their success, they do hard effort to achieve their success. If we are lazy people, we surely have no chance to be rich.

562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoin season coming soon? on: January 10, 2024, 09:59:16 PM
With the halving of Bitcoin around 2024, will we see an altcoin season? Yes, maybe, I'm optimistic we're going to enter a bull market very soon. Can't predict for sure how the altcoins will affect the market. Historically, the halving event has been associated with increases in the value of Bitcoin and this can increase investor interest in cryptocurrencies as a whole. This could lead to an altcoin season, where various altcoins will experience higher prices and increased trading volumes. However, the nature of the market can be dramatic, so it is not certain that a halving event will lead directly to an altcoin season.
Maybe? I think altcoins season will always happen as long as there is a bullrun season. When the price of Bitcoin can increase significantly, there will be a big hype in crypto space. This triggers the raise of altcoins prices, so it is very likely to happen. When the prices of most altcoins to rise significantly, it is what we call by "altcoins season".

If we learn the history of altcoins season, surely it has a big correlation with BTC halving and the huge increase of Bitcoin price. These 2 things influence the market trends, it lead to the altcoins season. So, it is not about how the altcoins to bring effect to the market but it is about how Bitcoin price trend to show its impact to the altcoin market.

563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 10, 2024, 09:55:05 PM
Manchester City are no longer the powerhouse we saw dominate the premier league for four seasons in a row. Losing Mahrez, Gundogan, e.t.c really affected the team’s performance this season because Manchester City were playing better than they are performing now without the departed players. I am looking forward to one or two additions this January for Manchester City to boost the team’s competitiveness.
I think Man City is still a strong team but they just can't play consistently as the previous season. Sure, losing Gundogan and Mahrez makes Man City to play weaker, but they still can deal with the situation if all they key players are available. What makes them to play worse is some key players injured for a long time (Haaland, De Bruyne, Rodri). Now, De Bruyne and Rodri have recovered, we can see they can play better in the last few matches. If Haaland can recover faster, we can expect that Man City to return to the top of EPL standings again. You must realize the point gap between the top 4 isn't really far, Man City is still possible to win the title.

I still don't read the news that Man City bought new players. But it will be great if they improve their squad with new players. Man City needs better players in defense line. Specifically for left and right backs, they new players in these positions. I think the current players are no longer very competitive, Man City must plan to change them.

564  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 10, 2024, 09:46:00 PM
Recently we saw some news about Real Madrid having another competitor for hiring Mbappe from PSG.
According to some news, we heard Liverpool is also interested in hiring Mbappe and this could make the situation even harder for Real Madrid since they need to hire this player.
Yep. We already heard this news since few days ago. I think it is not really surprising if there will be many clubs to try compete with Real Madrid. They know Mbappe's contract with PSG will be over soon, that means there is no transfer fees to sign Mbappe. Those clubs just need to negotiate about Mbappe's salary. However, I don't think this will make Real Madrid harder to sign Mbappe. Everyone must agree that Mbappe seems to prioritize Real Madrid for his next club. As long as Real Madrid wants to deal with Mbappe's demand, he will move to Real Madrid after this season ends.

This is already a generally considered problem. Joselu is considered lucky to be transferred to Real Madrid. This team urgently needs a quality striker. Joselu may be a good striker, but he is not of sufficient quality for Real Madrid. He cannot fill Benzema's void. If Mbappe comes, Real will eliminate that problem too.
Joselu was lucky he could perform very well in the previous season. So, Ancelotti wants to sign him and he becomes the only striker of Real Madrid now. Sure, he is a good striker, he scored many goals in the previous season. But to play in the biggest competition like UCL and to play in big matches, he seems still not the ideal striker for Real Madrid. He wasted many shot opportunities, that proved his quality isn't in the level of previous main strikers of Real Madrid.


565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 10, 2024, 09:28:18 PM
Edit: Dani Carvajal brought Real Madrid back to the game in the 86th minutes so the score line has been leveled back to 3:3, looking at the pressure been given to ATM right now I think Real Madrid may win the game if ATM defenders fails to hold them down before the final whistle will be blown. It's been a good game between the two big teams and being a derby match ATM has really improved in their performance because Real Madrid has always dominated them but tonight if the game ends in a 3:3 draw it's a good score for ATM.
The score is still the same (Real Madrid 3 vs 3 Atletico Madrid). The first extra time is over, there is no change in the score. If there is no more goal in the second extra time, we will have a penalty shootout. However, I'm still optimistic that Real Madrid will score another goal in the next extra time. They are very dominating the match, there are 20 shot attempts. But they must need to be calmer to succeed in scoring goals.

Well, if the winner must determine by a penalty shootout, I think Real Madrid is still superior. They have better players to be the penalty kickers. Real Madrid players are also more experienced in the crucial time like this. We must remember that Real Madrid often win the match in injury time or penalty shootout.

566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What would it be like owning a Bitcoin in 2024? on: January 10, 2024, 09:18:54 PM
Although I have not yet owned Bitcoin, I understand that investing in Bitcoin is a great idea but as like others, it is not a 100% guarantee. And if owned should be stored in a non custodian wallet for safety, I would love to begin my Bitcoin journey and appreciate lots of ideas and advice from this family.
There is no 100% guarantee in investment. There should be a risk in the investment, whether it is a high risk or a low risk. If you are afraid with the risk, you have no chance to invest in any asset. Even you invest in gold or land, it also has a risk but it seems lower than the risk in Bitcoin investment. However, although Bitcoin has a higher risk but it offers a higher profits, too.

Dude, if you think investing in Bitcoin will be a good idea, why you don't invest in Bitcoin yet? I think you need to start your investment in Bitcoin before its reaches the new ATH in the next few months. The current price is still cheap enough to buy Bitcoin, you can hold it for few months. I'm sure the price will increase more significantly after the Bitcoin halving in April.

So what is your take about this, would you advise on owning Bitcoin in 2024 or do you see it as a total risk?
Total risk? I think Bitcoin investment is not so risky. Although we don't know how far Bitcoin to raise in the bullrun season, but the price of Bitcoin should increase gradually. So, since it is still in the very early of 2024, it is safe enough to buy Bitcoin now. It is okay to buy Bitcoin as long as the Bitcoin halving isn't started yet. So, why you don't want to buy now?  Huh

567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Next better altcoin? on: January 09, 2024, 09:59:15 PM
Don't easily believe other people's advice, it's better to believe in the results of your own research,
the more experience we have, the more we will grow and know what to do,
talking about Bitcoin there is no need to doubt it.
You're right. It is better to do own research than rely on other people's suggestion. Even if we want to consider the suggestion from other people, it is better to do own research as well. There are too many cases of losing money on the scam projects because of following people's suggestion. The people may be the army of scam projects, so don't be easily to trust on the suggestion of other people.

Bitcoin and top altcoins are the right options to choose if we don't want to speculate on altcoins. If we still have lack of knowledge and experience, it is better to choose reputable crypto coins such as BTC, ETH, ADA, BNB, SOL, MATIC, DOT, TRX and other top 50 coins in CMC/CoinGecko. According to my experience, these coins are safer to hold until the bullrun season.

568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: January 09, 2024, 09:55:38 PM
These two teams have always been a theme in our discussions in the Europa League competition so far, although this is very natural because both of them are in their best performance and are at the top of the standings in their respective Domestic Leagues. but as I said, so far we have only assumed and speculated. after all, the playoffs haven't been held yet, and which team will be the challenger for these two teams in the future? statistically, both Liverppol and Leverkusen have performed impressively and they deserve and deserve to be favorites to become champion candidates or even enter the final round of the Europa League later. unfortunately, in football it is unique. sometimes, even a strong team can be overthrown by a team that is not at all superior.
Indeed. Leverkusen and Liverpool often becomes the headlines of our discussion in UEL. I think it is normal because these teams are the most stronger teams in UEL. Both Leverkusen and Liverpool performed impressively this season, they can lead the domestic league so far. So, I think people are very reasonable if they make these teams to be the favorite teams to win UEL.

However, it is true that everything is a speculation or a guess. We only consider it by analyzing the stats of their performance, the squad quality, and the reputation of the coach. In the field, these sometimes can't guarantee to win, the result of the match can be unpredictable. In some cases, smaller teams can defeat favorite teams.


569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: January 09, 2024, 09:43:54 PM
The Champions league is a league that surprises people of the results.Who knew that a team like Manchester United would not qualify from group stage of the tournament,who also thought that Copenhagen would qualify to the next round when there is Galatasary and Man U in that same group.These are the things that happened in the champions league,to tell you that almost all the teams that qualify to be able to play  in the Champions league are all good teams from their different leagues,and only need to be tested by teams that are also good from other leagues,and that is the essence of the champions league.
Yep. UCL often surprises us with an unpredictable results. Sure, before the season started, people must assume Man United to qualify for the knock out round. Man United is much stronger if we compare their squad with Galatasaray and Copenhagen. But the result of the group stage was Man United in the bottom of the group A. Man United failed to continue to the next round in UCL, they also couldn't go to play offs of UEL. We are surprised that Copenhagen that is qualified for the knock-out phase in UCL.

Madrid are a strong favourite to the Tittle,but we can't just conclude yet because other teams are also very good.
Not only Real Madrid is the strongest favorite for the UCL trophy this season. Bayern Munich and Man City are also the candidates of the champion of UCL this year. However, it is also possible that these favorite teams to fail winning the trophy. We don't know what will happen in the next few matches, another team can play stronger and beat these favorite teams.

570  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: January 09, 2024, 09:30:55 PM
Barusan saya buka aplikasi exchanger Pintu [1], baru tahu disana tertera informasi bahwa withdraw melalui e-wallet sudah tidak diaktifkan per 28 Desember 2023 yang lalu karena mengikuti kebijakan regulasi dari pemerintah (saya belum menemukan update link terkait aturan baru ini), sementara di aplikasi Indodax [2] saya lihat masih ada fitur metode withdraw ke e-wallet. Bisa tidak kompak seperti itu dalam penerapan peraturan pemerintah.
Peraturan pemerintah yang mana yang tidak memperbolehkan withdraw ke e-wallet? Kayaknya ini dulu yang perlu dicari tau, karena sepengetahuan saya selama ini tidak ada larangan dari pemerintah untuk withdraw ke e-wallet. Jikapun withdraw ke e-wallet sudah tidak bisa, harusnya itu merupakan keputusan dari pihak exchangenya sendiri, bukan karena dorongan dari kebijakan/regulasi pemerintah. Kalau itu memang keputusan dari pihak Pintu sendiri, ya wajar kalau berbeda dengan Indodax.

Tidak mungkin kebijakan pemerintah berlaku secara subjektif, Om. Kalau itu kebijakan pemerintah, pasti semua exchange lokal di Indonesia akan menerapkannya. Karena kalau ada yang tidak taat, bisa saja izin beroperasinya akan dicabut pemerintah.  Wink


571  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I succeed as a trader in 2024 on: January 08, 2024, 09:59:36 PM
That you have a valid point, it is not a day or two just to learn the ins and outs of trading.
But sometimes it would take months to years to have good understanding on this market.
Many newcomers still have the notion that they can earn huge profits if they jump on they hype.
However, they will learn their lessons quick once they taste their first loss in trading.
Of course, there is an instant way to learn trading and crypto market. It requires a lot of time, it can be for some weeks or even months. If newbies/beginners expect to have good knowledge and experience in a short time, it is something impossible. The newcomers who expect to get profits instantly by following the hype, probably will end up with losses. How they know to trade properly if they have lack of knowledge and experience? I am also doubtful about their mentality, I bet they may feel panic when they see the hype suddenly over. They think the hype will last a long time, but we know that most the hype only last for a short time.

572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 08, 2024, 09:57:21 PM
Bayern Munich is also still one game behind Leverkusen so the gap in points seen now is four points, but if Bayern Munich's matches are the same as Leverkusen's number of matches and Munich can win. So the point gap between the two is just one, not four points, unless Munich cannot win in its 16th match in the Bundesliga. Apart from that, Leverkusen this season only competed in the European League apart from the Bundesliga, not in the Champions League like Munich. So the pressure these two teams have is certainly very different even though they often look the same in the Bundesliga.
You're right. Bayern Munich has 1 unplayed match. If they win the unplayed match, their point will be 41, the point gap is 1 point only. So, actually Bayern Munich is still has a big chance to compete for the title this season. However, Bayern Munich must ensure that they won't miss again 3 points for the next matches. If both Bayern Munich and Leverkusen can play consistently in each match, it will be a tough competition for the title this season. And the next match Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich is probably to be a crucial match to determine which team to be the champion in this season. The match  Leverkusen vs Bayern Munich will be in matchday 21 (February 11, 2024).

573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 08, 2024, 09:50:35 PM
Looking at Napoli's condition, it is difficult to imagine why last season they fell so quickly, their game was very strong and they managed to win Serie A. This season for Napoli, even competing in the top four is difficult, let alone defending the title, it feels very impossible.
That's the power of the coach! It simply indicated that Luciano Spalletti is the reason why Napoli performed very strong in the last season. Luciano Spalletti knows well how to build Napoli to be a strong team. After Luciano Spalletti left the club, unfortunately Napoli management failed to hire a proper coach as the successor.

For this season, Napoli may target to finish in UCL zone only. But it seems not easy to return to the top 4. I even doubt Napoli to finish this season at the top 5 if they always performed poorly.

Napoli's decline is very clear, without Spalleti it's like a chick losing its mother, Napoli's game is not solid and without a vision and mission. Napoli's next mistake was being too quick to fire Rudi Garcia as Spalleti's replacement at that time. Even though the match results were quite good, even though they were less consistent. Still able to compete in the top 4, now Napoli with a new coach is even worse for Napoli, star players are important but the chemistry between players and coach is more important.
Indeed. Without Spalletti, Napoli becomes a weak team, they even got some defeats against small teams. The main problem of this team is they failed to hire a proper coach to replace Spalletti. It is a mistake to sign Rudi Garcia as the successor of Spalletti. If Napol management could hire a better coach, Napoli may not experience this bad season.

In fact, in the last three matches, Napoli recorded 3 red cards, against Roma, Monza and Torino.
It is the sign that Napoli players feel frustrated with their current condition. They need some changes, they need a better coach with reputable records. I don't know why Napoli sign random coach.

574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: January 08, 2024, 09:30:37 PM
I this agree with the post above me, I don't think arsenal tried to win that game, I watch the match and first half both teams played very poorly, the chances Arsenal had were never a serious threat to Liverpool defense in any way. I think it was generally a boring match and both teams did not give it their all, Liverpool had some luck to end up winners in the end.
This agree or disagree? Huh

Arsenal must try to win the match, it shouldn't be debated.  Grin
If the players played poorly, it doesn't mean they have no intention to win the game/match. Arsenal players couldn't make a very serious threat, it is probably caused by the strong defense of Liverpool. Liverpool defenders tried to give no chance for Arsenal players to get good opportunities in scoring goals. We must appreciate what have done by Liverpool defenders, they were able to make Arsenal attackers feel frustrated.

The own goal was a lucky goal. But the second goal was a goal made by their efforts. You can't claim Liverpool won the game because of the luck factor.  Wink

575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you do with your altcoin holding with low value on: January 07, 2024, 09:59:52 PM
Earlier bounties and airdrops were pretty all tokens were awarded after work was completed and listed on an exchange. Currently their value has decreased a lot. For online holding if the value of the coin is low then you will not get the profit from selling that coin so you have to wait until it is listed on the exchange. Even if the price goes up a bit you have to sell it because once the altcoin coins go down it takes a long time to rise.
If they tokens have been listed on exchanges, it is better to sell the bounty or airdrop tokens. Unless, the tokens are from big projects, it is better to not hold them for a long time. I have experienced it previously, it didn't work well. Most of the tokens got from bounties or airdrops, the prices will constantly drop after the bounties/airdrops ended. Instead of being confused about thinking about the future of the token, why don't you sell them and buy the top coins. I usually do it when I got tokens from airdrops or bounties several years ago. It is more effective to hold top coins and wait for the bullrun season. I want to remind you that weak tokens will be hard to get a good ending.

576  Economy / Speculation / Re: ETF will probably not approved yet, so BTC and the others crypto will go down !! on: January 07, 2024, 09:57:34 PM
We are hearing rumors both ways. Some say it will be approved others say it will be rejected.
Exactly. As long as there is no official announcement from SEC, we will always hear rumors whether it will be approved or rejected. I think it is not so surprising why people too much focus on this case. People expect much on the good news from ETF in the near future, but I personally don't think it will be announced by SEC very soon. Even if they will announce it, I guess they won't claim to approve or reject it! They will postpone the decision.  Grin

But if you look at the chart for the last few hours, we hit a new yearly high and we are still going up. Seems some news might of leaked and I think some people are trying to get in on the action before it’s approved officially and prices go even higher.
The price of Bitcoin looks quite stable, it just fluctuate around $43k -$44k. I think most people prefer to see & wait about the news from ETF. They won't try to speculate too much to do certain decisions now.

577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: January 05, 2024, 08:30:06 PM
Bringing in Gundogan is great for Barcelona because at least they can make some difference in midfield and his ability has been tested so it's not wrong for Gundogan to be in Xavi's midfield at the moment but if you say the reason he can change at crucial times is actually a fifty-fifty despite the good performance he had before the penalty.
Gundogan is an experienced midfielder, he also has a big role to lead Man City winning treble winners in the last season. He was even a captain of Man City squad. So, Barcelona is lucky to sign him, Barcelona took one of the key players of Man City. Considering what Gundogan did in Man City previously, I have no doubt to say that it is a brilliant decision to sign him. Moreover when Busquets decided to leave Barcelona, Xavi needs an experienced midfielder like Gundogan to replace Busquets's role.

You conclude that, from what you have seen, Girona will be the winner of the league. How sure are you? Don’t forget that these four teams you mention are very strong, and with all indications, they both suffer to win each other anytime they play a match. Don’t you think anything can happen? Although Girona is doing well  but you shouldn’t conclude that they will be the winner. Let see them on the top of table before you conclude.
Both Real Madrid and Girona have the same chance to win La Liga trophy this season. We can see the points of these teams, they succeed to collect 48 points so far. I don't think we can judge which team to win La Liga now, the season is very far from the end. I think there is possibility to see some changes in the second half of the season. Let's see which team to keep their consistently in playing and which team drops their performance!

578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 05, 2024, 08:15:49 PM
Roberto Firmino is said to have an intention to leave Al-Ahli these days. Fulham are rumoured to be interested in him as well. Other than them I have heard of some Turkish teams having an interest in signing him too. I think his first choice would be to return to the English Premier League. Because he can make more money there than he can in Turkey and he is already very familiar with the league.  Smiley

I thought he shouldn't have left Liverpool in the first place but of course he must be earning much more money there. But I mean he was doing quite okay at Liverpool and performing even better than Nunez.
I've read some articles about this issue. I don't know why Firmino too hurry to leave Al Ahli, he still has 1 year contract with Al Ahli. I think he gets good amount of salary and he played regularly in Al Ahli. I see there is no serious reason for him to leave Al Ahli very soon. If he wants to return to EPL, it is not a bad idea. But if he wants to move to Turkish league, I think he is better to stay with Al Ahli. I don't think there is a significant difference between Saudi league and Turkish league. I assume Saudi league is even more popular than Turkish league.

It is his own right to leave Liverpool. I can understand if he decided to leave at that time, he didn't get enough time to play. Since he was no longer a main striker in Liverpool, he preferred to move to SPL. But now, it is a bit confusing why he wants to leave Saudi league too early. I think he still can't prove anything about his quality in Saudi league and he also still has 1 year contract there.

579  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HODL is purely a mental challenge on: January 05, 2024, 08:00:40 PM
Most decisions are made by some investors out of no choice. I could remember when I bought matic then around $1. I plan to hold this token no matter what happens. But this token later becoming deep during the bear season till around $0.45. This period I need money seriously to solve some issues, after looking around for where I could see the money and I didn't see any, I have no choice than to sell out this matic to solve the issue. I believe same thing mostly lead investors to sell out their token in deep.
I think everyone ever experienced this, I also experienced the same thing as you. When we have no choice, it is no longer about mental challenge but it is about an urgent need. You didn't do mistake if you sell your Matic at the moment although you were selling for a lose. You did it because you have no choice to solve urgent need. Bearish market sometimes becomes very challenging because of something like that. We possibly sell our coins if we have no longer fiats in our bank accounts. That's why we also need to consider having savings besides having investments. I personally divide my money in several thing, including for savings and investing. I don't use all my money for investing, I need some money for other purposes.

580  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah bisa Bermain Sigcam di 2 forum berbeda on: January 05, 2024, 03:12:55 PM
Ada forum sejenis lain seperti https://bitcoingarden.org/forum/, namun traffic-nya masih dibawah https://www.altcoinstalks.com/. Dan di Altcointalks difasilitasi fitur teleport jadi bisa memungkinkan manager ataupun peserta campaign, bisa langsung menggunakan signature-nya untuk promosi, sehingga tidak ada jeda terlalu lama karena dibatasi rank dari awal lagi.
Iya, forum bitcoingarden memang traffic nya masih sangat rendah dan terkesan kurang terurus. Wajar kalau BM tidak merekomendasikan forum bitcoingarden. Walaupun saya yakin pasti Secco juga akan memfasilitasi campaign Mixer jika mereka mau open di forum bitcoingarden. Secco pun bisa saja memberikan fasilitas seperti teleported akun jika BM dan peserta campaign Mixer mau mengadakan campaign di sana.

Hal ini senada dengan apa yang saya katakan di atas, bahwa kalau permintaan teleportasi bisa dilakukan tanpa adanya verifikasi apapun, akan menimbulkan kecurangan seperti permintaan teleportasi oleh beberapa oknum atas akun yang sama, atau username kita didaftarkan oleh orang lain untuk membuat permintaan teleportasi.
Pastinya akan ada kecurangan jika tidak ada proses validasi/verifikasi. Makanya mencantumkan link profile akun ATT di forum information akun BTT itu menjadi sangat penting. Itu untuk memastikan jika yang mengajukan teleportasi adalah benar-benar user dari akun BTT tersebut. Dengan demikian tidak ada simpang siur mengenai siapa yang melakukan teleportasi.

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