There's another way to get big, and that is by providing a great service and making your customers very happy. Since you're new here, you should look at Deepbit's history; this is mostly what Deepbit has done.
If you do some research regarding my registration date, you'll see that you are the new one here...  I was already here before there was such a thing as Deepbit or Tycho, even Slush wasn't open yet, and i could mine with a 5450...  So, there is little point in my reading the history that i watched happen real-time...  It was already clear then that the exceptionally greedy farmers, such as ArtForz, were about to force everyone else to pool, which would create vulnerable centers in the "totally decentralized Bitcoin" still being falsely advertised today... Then, there would be greedy pool operators, such as Tycho. In a few years, they will consolidate, and become the central bankers of Bitcoin, if it survives that long.  Then, we'll be back to the same thing we have today with fiat bankers - a few influential central bankers of Bitcoin dictating to the rest of us how much share of the market they will have, and how much in fees we'll have to pay them... How great that revolutionary new system will be! Then, i will also not care if "Bitcoin fails"... |
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It's purely a hypothesis, but he'll follow it with plenty of accusations. Love it.
Let's See:
Security Troll: Check
Paranoid/Conspiracy Troll: Double Check
You have a right to your delusions, just as i have a right to mine... |
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So you are not going to retract your accusation regarding Deepbit accepting botnets?
It's not an accusation; it's a simple hypothesis, given the way some of the biggest business is traditionally done in Russia. Since Deepbit's terms and technology can be duplicated by any other pool, its persistently incongruous size is suspicious. It will be useful when someone with credible skills and network position figures out the botnet share of that. Deepbit plantation helpers are not a credible source of such info to me... What is pretty clear to me is that an entity or a group that doesn't have the ethics or greed limit to stop itself from grabbing 40-50% of the worldwide supply of something, would not be above tolerating a friendly botnet to help it continue to do so... |
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Try clicking on the image for your "proof." Until then, you are on very shaky ground.
My point was that, as we have seen before, one person's parasite botnet is another person's "business partner." Even IF it turns out that Deepbit doesn't have such "business partners", it's unethical for Deepbit and its workers to take even close to 50%. That makes a joke of the already obvious fairytale of "decentralized Bitcoin," in which the system can be disrupted by attacking or subverting just one mining pool... What also then becomes obvious is that - just as it is for the Wall-Street bankers - for Deepbit and its workers it's not really about the health of the monetary system as a whole. "It's all about me and getting mine"... In the immortal words of one proud miner: ... I am here simply to mine bitcoin and make a profit. I don't really care if bitcoin fails. ...
That makes all of the Bitcoin ground pretty damn shaky... |
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That's proof of the botnet that Deepbit "doesn't have the ethics to block" for people who like to make damning statements without doing any research.
Well, if something in the Deepbit interface is "proof" enough to you that Deepbit is blocking ALL the botnets, good for you!  As i said, i'll wait until a more credible third party has some proof, which would obviously not be Deepbit or its workers. Some pretty shady "business" deals are made and unethical actions tolerated in the Bitcoin world. As in the rest of the criminal world, one botnet doesn't have the same friends, alliances and capabilities as every other... |
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Seems like a great niche for Bitcoin. By the time the commuter gets home, the transactions have confirmed and the stuff is on the way... |
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Deepbit blocked it then it was shopped over to BTCGuild who caught it and blocked it, then bitcoin.lc who blocked it so far.
You got a little prejudice on your face there.
As with all things in life, time will tell what's on whose face... |
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... Unfortunately I don't speak Russian, so I can't really understand the youtube video, but I'm sure to you and the other 9,000 viewers it was epic Well, since you don't speak Russian, perhaps you should use GoogleTranslate and spend some time in the Russian parts of this forum and the internet, before making your own "idiotic posts" about Deepbit... As a Russian: "Just saying..." |
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Botnets simply cannot contribute that much. ...
Not true, when the botnet first got noticed and moved to another pool we were able to see it and exactly how many comps were hitting and how much hash power. it was surprisginly high hash for the number of comps. I do not have the info recroded down to verify so one of the pool ops would have to report, but there is a grph I'm willing to bet someone still has that showed the number of zombies hashing and what their rate was. Believe it was something on the order of 60Ghash and only a few thousand comps....... Word! Testify!!! Amen! If the BtcGuild story is true, BIG UP to them, for having the ethics to do what Deepbit probably doesn't... |
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What i think would be useful is if someone with the right set of skills and resources would monitor Deepbit and Slush, and figure out how much of their power comes from botnet participation... BtcGuild was big until they supposedly decided to ditch a botnet and got DDOS'd. It will be interesting what size it will be once it comes back. Perhaps, on basis of that, we'll be able to make some wild guesses regarding how much of Deepbit is actually botnet power being stolen from unsuspecting internet users... |
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Anyone having issues with bitmarket.eu selling their coins for lower than they entered? I entered sell order for 12.5EUR and it keeps trying to sell them at 9EUR. I have to keep trying to cancel with the buyers.
I had the same problem. It started once Dwolla was plugged in. |
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@Bitmarket, would you be open to considering adding Dwolla as an option? It may speed things up and the fee is distributed to both parties (25 cents per transaction on each end, which is often better than any percentage).
+1 Dwolla would be an extremely useful option for those of us trading USD, even though in my experiences Dwolla has a long way to go before it's as fast as Paypal...  Bitmarket.EU is still the best exchange, imho! Keep up the great work! |
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It's peculiar how stable the rates have been since MtG went down. Certainly seems in line with the assertions that it was infested with pump-and-dump teams, dark-pool artists, and other market manipulators, whose scamming party was unexpectedly disrupted... IMHO, the fewer people go back to MtG, and the more other exchanges discover rates regardless of the MtG price, the better for Bitcoin in the long term... |
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я тоже поддерживаю 40 тонн! |
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Hey, I tried to place a order using 2 different browsers using a static amount of bitcoins but am unable to. I get to a part where it asks me to click here for address to send too but nothing happens. Is it not working right now?
Very very sorry for the inconvenience. I know I would find it quite annoying. Again, I continue to thank everyone for your patience with our growing pains. I can't even get to the next page after i click submit form. It opens up another tab in FF or Chrome, and then says transferring or connecting, but never displays the page. Bummer.  |
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Дошли? Просто интересно, на сколько повлияет начало поступления мусора через dwolla на курс биткойн... По идее, максимум 3 бизнес дня, т.е. если выслали в пятницу, сегодня - завтра последние дни...
Дуолла наконец причалила с моей мелочью. ...Шесть рабочих дней спустя!  Ну, я так не играю. Это совсем не Монтана! Теперь, кроме Bitmarket.EU, больше на биржи не пойду... |
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Опасно, могут поймать. ... Хорошо в Доминике http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Доминика помещения сдавать за биткоины, заплатил фиксированную сумму налогов в год (вроде около 400$), и сдавай хоть дворец в аренду за биткоины. Во! Этапный остров типа полная Монтана! Вот туда и поеду! Там по новостям полста челов от холеры померли на днях. Это была Доминиканская Республика, которая на совсем другом острове... |
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pues a mi me sucedio todo lo contrario, les explique a mis viejos en menos de una hora y comprendieron a la perfeccion, tanto asi que les hable sobre un posible trabajo en forbitcoin.com y cuanto iria a cobrar, hicieron un poco de matematica con la conversion a dolares y luego a moneda nacional, solo me dijieron "no quiero que regales trabajos" xD
Probablemente, mi mamá tiene la misma edad que tu abuela, y yo tengo la de tus viejos. Así que son de las épocas muy distintas, por no hablar de los países y otras cosas diferentes... Mis amigos son escépticos por los mismos motivos que mencionó fabianhjr por el hilo sobre Grecia... |
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