1) You're not even a real player; you were banned for TOC violations; you are just a disgruntled lying, shilling, troll. I am a professional poker player, I was not banned for violating TOC. I was banned from the forum for re-posting issues after they deleted them from the forum without responding. My poker account isn't even banned by the way. I just can't log in to the forum. Please stop lying about me. 2) The concerns you keep bringing up have been resolved long ago and any mistakes made have been compensated for. They have compensated some players for some of their mistakes, yes. Not all players though, and they haven't made any indication that they take these mistakes seriously in the future. Here are some references for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13025707#msg13025707http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?11404-Betcoin-ag-Scams-Scandals-and-Shadiness-Galore3) Their time is better spent on supporting legitimate players than trolls who barrage them with baseless accusations. I agree, but they aren't doing thatg either. 4) If you spent more time in honest pursuits, then maybe you'd find your life more satisfying.
5) You talk about them posting fake evidence (which was submitted to them by a member of your crew) but you're the king of photo shopping evidence! LOL If you want to make an accusation than do it. Are you accusing me of photoshoping that evidence? Do you think those skype logs are authentic? As far as the ddos attacks do you believe Betcoin or me? |
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Cloudbet has problems every weekend and it's reflected in their "C" rating. Many of the complaints are posted in this thread. Cloudbet hasn't stolen any money from their players. If I send a PM to Cloudbet they will answer all questions. If asked, they will reply in this thread. All of their problems are with delays. DirectBet's margins are the highest of all books. DirectBet has stolen funds from 3 different players. They won't show proof of problems and they state that their decision is final. If a book is going to confiscate funds, they need to show solid proof justifying the confiscation. A major purpose of this thread is to warn players of books that may not pay out. DirectBet's model is set up so that others will lose money in the future. Betcoin is currently untrusted and had their bid to advertise on this forum rejected by Theymos due to negative reputation. Beginning this week, members who promote Betcoin will likely receive negative trust for doing so. Go watch their forum and chat room if you're interested in reading about payout delays and other issues with sportsbook. Read their trust feedback if you want to know what a scummy site they are in general. |
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Stage 10: 2016-07-31 00:01 Forum time - 2016-07-29 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 10 ends before it starts, just to let you guys know haha although I am participating in another campaign, you should totally read what you modify before pressing the post button omg the troll team is completed now !! As one of the few who actually play on Betcoin.ag and understand online poker, should be ashamed of yourself. ashamed of what ?? for promoting the best bitcoin poker site ?? there is no perfect site you and me know that , so yes Betcoin isn't perfect but it's the best btc casino for me I strongly believe that all btc casinos shouldn't provide Betsoft games , but I see people only attacking Betcoin and the attacks are really overrated there is a mixtrue of truth and lies these days I'm not playing that much on Betcoin just because they removed the WPN STTs , but when they get them back Betcoin will officially be my perfect poker room you have your opinion and I have mine , I will never be ashamed of promoting the site that I had the best gaming experience on it sorry for my bad English , but I really hope that you got my point I understand what your saying. But, just because you think all other Bitcoin casinos are "worse" for you, doesn't mean you have to accept their behavior. Betsoft issues aside, lets just consider poker. Many of the following issues were innocent mistakes that could of easily been fixed by simply aknowledging their mistake, apologizing to their players and showing a genuine effort to make change in the future. Instead they lie, try to cover it up, and then when they see it's not going away they try and twist the story to make themselves out the hero. They knowingly allow cheaters to play. They knowingly overcharged players for months and then lied about it. They knowingly collected over 16 btc for a badbeat jackpot from players who had 0% chance to win it. (this was prior to Aug 2nd 2015) They advertise a daily double jackpot now that's impossible to win (they removed the second tournament, and left the promotion up) They just posted fake skype conversations of me confessing to ddos their site, but don't "have time" to respond to legitimate issues brought up by players. |
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Signature campaigns give sites credibility. So does advertising on this forum through paid ads. The fact that Theymos denied Betcoin.ag from advertising on this forum is totally relevant information that should be considered when making your own opinion on the situation. But in the end, we each have our own opinion of the situation and have the right to leave whatever trust we see fit.
Just a small point. Theymos did not accept ads from bitmixer. But Bitmixer's signature campaign is alive and kicking. The forum did carry ads of Bitcoin Black Friday, which turned out to be a scam. So we shouldn't be linking everything to the forum's ad policy. . What theymos does is his call, not mine & not anybody Else's. Someone is a fan of him ? sure follow him but don't censor others to do it too.
Fortune jack openly lied about their video contest & didn't payed the 50+ btc bonuses but nobody has problems with them. Their campaign runs smoothly too. 'Extorting participants & saying what is acceptable and what is not' is not your right.What duties do you fulfill so you get the rights to say me what is wrong or what is acceptable ? do u pay my taxes ? do u pay my rent ? do u pay forum bills ? do u pay forum taxes ? do you come and speak in the court for me ? updating that fucking signature thread are your Duties ? are you even fucking serious ? Telling people what I think is or is not acceptable is my right. Trusting or untrusting someone based on their actions is my right. If you don't like what I think or do, then untrust me. Same with Luptin. Just because more people trust Luptin than me doesn't mean you have to or that he has any more rights than me. Lutpin could of easily just neg repped all of them immediately. I suspect (not speaking for him) he didn't because he doesn't want to create drama. Do you have any relevant questions? |
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4 months and still no license? At which jurisdiction did you request the license? Why not state the legal information right now?
hello! Which license you are telling about?  We are Bitcoin casinoLOL Bitcoin casino and having a license is no contradiction! Who are you? Just an affiliate or a partner? Would be amazing if you do not know the terms and conditions about your business: After getting the license, this page will post all the necessary registration and legal information concerning the management company. https://www.fun-casino.com/termsAhh and by the way, people can not have a legally binding agreement with the name "Fun-Casino". Legally binding agreements are only possible between private persons or legal entities! hello? |
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Can I ask my fellow participants if you guys are going to participate in the next round or are you guys just waiting for the previous round's payment? Just checking out.
You mean to ask, are we going to allow to be bullied by crypto-games affiliates and paid guns ? I don't think betcoin.ag is a scam and don't plan to allow their competition to force me into anything. Both sides can play threats game. I speak for myself, tho. Don't know how other people feel. Nope they can't do a fair threat game at all. If a DT member starts to put negative trust on us, our account will become a waste. Betcoin.AG can't do anything about that. He simply has no power in this forum to threat anyone. Betcoin could address the issues they've been ignoring and accept responsibility for their actions as any trustworthy site would. |
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Stage 10: 2016-07-31 00:01 Forum time - 2016-07-29 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 10 ends before it starts, just to let you guys know haha although I am participating in another campaign, you should totally read what you modify before pressing the post button omg the troll team is completed now !! As one of the few who actually play on Betcoin.ag and understand online poker, should be ashamed of yourself. |
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Related note: Why is it so freakin difficult for Betcoin to just come out say and "yea, we fucked up, our bad, we won't make the same mistake again". Why are they going through all of this trouble to delete posts, blame the victim, and to hide a colossal blunder that is obvious to pretty much everyone? Just come out and admit the issue, address how things will be different, and try to do better. Fact is that a player played a game on Betcoin's site where they should have won X dollars, and he didn't receive the full amount. What is all this nonsense about moving on and keeping quiet? When you deposit money into Betcoin and play one of their slots, are you playing with the expectation that if you were to win a jackpot, you would have create forum threads, sign NDAs, and take legal action to collect your winnings?
Valid point, but the problem is that jackpot was won by error in free spin, which should not have happened. That's why they all settled the matter, and Jason was paid an amount he said he was satisfied with, until he wasn't anymore (wtf..) It should not have happened in the first place, but you can't expect casino to go bust on an error, especially when blame is on betsoft, and not betcoin.ag. What makesyou think that the jackpot shouldn't be won during a free spin? Because they said so afterwards? They have other games where jackpots can be won during either regular spin or during freespin bonus rounds, some games jackpot can only be won during bonus rounds. They also said it was because of the wrong denomination. In the end, when considering the betsoft jackpot data and Bovadas reaction, it's pretty clear (in my opinion) that they didn't know what reason to give because they never thought those 5 symbols would appear on a valid pay line and those 500+ BTC (and growing) will never be paid out to anyone. It's also clear that ajaresdale (like cjmoles) has a tendency to make statements as if they are fact when, in reality, they are assumptions or opinions at best and often blatant lies. |
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Edit: I'm just wondering why how this is about the forum at all
Correct. Nobody other then theymos has rights to say what is acceptable or not . The signature campaign & casino is their service & as clearly stated by the admin the forum doesn't has any TOS on how to. If some idiot thinks that theymos is not advertising them & hence it is not acceptable on forum then its obvious that his senseless brain is not able to understand anything of logic. Theymos could actually waste all the ad spots, it's his call. The negative rating is because you think the person is shady etc etc.. not just because u think it is unacceptable on forum llol lol lol.You are definitely not the one to decide that. as we all have seen blazed was enjoying the drama & the only solution to ajareselde or participants problem is by making an appeal to remove the person from Default. Users should be held responsible for who they choose to advertise on this forum. Thats the point I'm trying to make in this thread. Signature campaigns give sites credibility. So does advertising on this forum through paid ads. The fact that Theymos denied Betcoin.ag from advertising on this forum is totally relevant information that should be considered when making your own opinion on the situation. But in the end, we each have our own opinion of the situation and have the right to leave whatever trust we see fit. Personally I don't think "I don't know enough about the site thats paying me to advertise for them to decide whether or not they are trustworthy" is a valid defense for advertising a questionable site. If anyone has a problem with Lutpin, please research Betcoin.ag before jumping to the conclusion that he's just being a bully here for his own enjoyment. Betcoin.ag has refused to address numerous serious issues for over a year now. For the past 9 months they have usedtheir signature campaign to create the illusion that they are transparent and willing to answer any and all questions. When, in reality, they are ignoring many of the real players on their site. If anyone has any questions about the issues, please ask me or anyone familiar with the world of online poker/gambling to clarify. |
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Who owns betcoin, who owns betsoft? What if they are the same person /people?
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He is absolutely not asking for more money. wtf is wrong with you?
I guess i was molested as a child... I'm sorry but that question above, coming from you tilted my brain for a sec. If you really think he is not, then you are more delusional than anyone here, and there are a lot of candidates. wtf? |
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He is absolutely not asking for more money. wtf is wrong with you?
do I really need to explain how ridiculous you're being by implying Jason had an option to sue anyone?
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Tell me again why he's leaving ..
same reason he removed his signature. to preserve his reputation. Exactly. Because he was openly threatened and abused (just like all other betcoin.ag sig. users) by you, other crypto-games affiliates, and crypto-games manager Lutpin. As anyone who openly promotes a scummy site like betcoin should be. |
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Tell me again why he's leaving ..
same reason he removed his signature. to preserve his reputation. |
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Rossilinp offered to remove signature and leave campaign if anyone could prove Betcoin was dishonest.
Literally 10 minutes later he removed signature and announced he was leaving campaign.
Actually, he did so because he was threatened constantly if he was to remain, by you, crypto-games affiliates, and Lutpin - an underage scholar and manager of crypto-games.net that is currently on DT. All this in order not to help jasonort or anyone else, but to try to eliminate crypto-games.net competition  STAGE 10 SPECIAL BONUS
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Let me then inform you that, starting end of the month, after all of you guys are being paid by betcoin.ag, I strongly consider leaving negative feedback to everyone who continues to advertise betcoin.ag
I have nothing against any of you participants, that's the reason why I will wait with this till after your payround, but advertising betcoin.ag in their current state should not be anything acceptable on this forum.
So don't try to be anything else than a bully and a paid gun that you are. Actually, just before removing his signature and retiring from campaign he said this: I think that this is my boiling point. I want you to show me any REAL PROOF that Betcoin.ag has scammed anyone.
IF anyone will show me any not fabricated proof I will be no longer the Betcoin.ag Campaign Manager and also I will remove my sig.
BUT so far after reading all of this "scam accusations" I found that none of it is real. https://archive.is/gn6Zm  |
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LOL, I'm sure you'd follow your own line of reasoning if you were the one that got screwed for hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's pretty obvious from the thread that Betcoin/Betsoft tried to keep him quiet by giving him part of his winnings but not the entire thing. It's pretty obvious he took the deal because it was either that or 0. It's pretty obvious that he just wanted Betcoin to come out and publicly say that they weren't gonna let this sort of stuff happen again to one of their players. It's pretty obvious that Betcoint deleted his posts and just tried to sweep everything under the rug. Duh.
LOL at suing them. Yup, just file an action in an US court, it's that easy. Wait no...you have to serve them in whatever random island they operate out of, hire firms with an expertise in HK law (because for some odd reason Betcoin has that as their choice of law, despite online gambling being outright illegal in HK), and fund a lengthly lawsuit. Yea, that seems very doable.
Maybe next time, shill more tactfully or think before typing.
Well i certainly wouldn't go around forums and whine about how i think someone did me wrong, and i most certainly wouldnt say : I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
and then continue asking for more money after settlement, and after saying all that. I'm not a shill behind alt account, you are. I'm just annoyed that bunch of people are abusing this case to attack competition. Well I certainly wouldn't go around promoting a scummy site like Betcoin. Even if they paid me. I guess you would though huh. |
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-snip- Do you know the meaning of the word ? No. please explain? en.wikipedia.org If we're gonna talk about criminal offences; where did you register your bussiness ? Where did betcoin.ag register their business? where did you register your bussiness ? Dont avoid the question Did you report taxes on that income ? Game Protect is a non-profit organisation. "Avoid this service. They cannot protect you with their "€90 for 1 year assistance service". You won't be protected by joining through their affiliate links either." Liar, liar , pants on fire. Tax evasion is a criminal offence Thank you for the info, was not aware of. Now you do.  100% He's a liar. He's just a jr. Member and pretending like he knows everything what's happening around. Trolls like him is the reason " roslinpl " Left his post of campaign manager. When i asked him what's the reason for saying farewell to the job of campaign manager, he replied trolls are always posting nonsense and he can't always reply to them. After all he got a life to live not just this forum. Rossilinp offered to remove signature and leave campaign if anyone could prove Betcoin was dishonest. Literally 10 minutes later he removed signature and announced he was leaving campaign. |
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Even though someone from management stated the BBJ didn't exist when the counter was still going at around 5-7 BTC's (?), had it been hit, I'm sure they still would have paid it out. There were no terms. No Rules. Managment (paul) confirmed it didn't exist. There was a 0% chance of it being hit, there was nothing to hit. You knew about it and did nothing because you're more interested in your own personal bottom line. You are scum. Get it? It was mismanagement/misguidance/incompetence for them to state the BBJ didn't exist, but you keep bringing it up as if it was a scam, which obviously it wasn't. It's scumbags like you that make them think they can get away with scummy stuff like overcharging rake, collecting for BBJP that didn't exist, waiting for cheaters to request cashout before freezing account, running no collusion freeroll and allowing colluders to play in it, seizing funds from cheaters and not returning all funds to victims, etc. The bottom line is you want betcoin to succeed because when they profit you profit - so you defend their reputation at all costs while doing whatever you can to get new signups and more deposits. Meanwhile, they're doing nothing but damage to the reputation of Bitcoin Poker. Wrong again. They immediately reported the BBJ being hit but players had to let them know it didn't qualify. https://www.betcoin.ag/actl0nnnn-loses-king-quads-royal-flush-bad-beat-poker-handNevertheless, it's proof that had it been hit and players demanded it and reported it, they would have paid out the 5-7 BTC's. Until August 2 2015 there was no possible way to win the jackpot that they had collected over 10 btc. (I think it was 16 actually) In May of 2015 it was over 10, and Xiao was spamming it to attract new signups despite the fact it couldn't be won untill August.  They announced a winner who didn't qualify months later. You seem pretty mad. |
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