Here's my graph from playing a little on Betcoin last week:  Really? |
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TL;DR You have a responsibility to your players to ensure that the games offered on Betcoin are fair. If Betsoft partially paid out one of your players in a confidential settlement, it's time for you to pony up the remainder of what he's owed. Anything less means that your casino should be blacklisted for non-payment.
This is a great point. It's like a restaurant serving up tainted meat and then saying "It's not our fault, our cattle provider shouldn't have sold us bad meat". +1000 "Also, we are a hero for stepping in and convincing the cattle provider to pay for our customers desert. We didn't have to do that" |
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Hi,
I see since my last post you've changed the topic from
"[Beware] TwitchySeal: Abuses his Reputation with Hit or Miss accusations, etc"
to
"[Beware] TwitchySeal: Abuses his Rep, replies to his own posts with alts, etc"
Could you please explain why?
I don't know what you mean by "abuses his rep" or "etc" but I do not reply to my own post with alts.
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation. Edit: Twitchyseal:My reputation is such a slut! Fuck my reputation! ^^^like that? Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts. I've never said "Betcoin is #1". You know that. I've said that Betcoin is the largest bitcoin poker room before because it is currently. So if that is what you mean, okay. Also please man, you know what I meant. What I meant is that you abuse the little power and reputation that you've gained in the past. Are you talking about my literal reputation? Or the thing that affects the numbers by our names on this forum? Hi, Still trying to understand what you're accusing me of. ^^^ Ok guy, when it's directed at members of MY service, it's not SPAM, idiot.
Disagree with you here, but just my opinion - most of my posts are spam to you, most of your posts are spam to me. That pm was spam to many of your members. |
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Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.
Known alts of anyone: User generated <---They appreciate any contributions. |
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When this player registered, was there any max .12 btc rule?
You can't change the rules mid-promotion and enforce them on players who have already signed up and played.
It's your job to establish the rules before the promotion. Players will always take full advantage of any promo you offer by the way.
You are absolutely right here, the max available sum to cashout was missed and added later, we don't deny our fault here. Now it's stated in all new promos from the very beginning and also described in T&CHey, quit ignoring me, that's rude. You agree with me admit it's your fault, why won't you make it right? Pay them the money they requested to withdraw that you denied because of the new rules. usually it really takes no more then 24 hours if we speak about withdrawal in less than 5 BTC.  [/b] Hi, remember me? You're ignoring me again. Which is it here? which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly
usually it really takes no more then 24 hours if we speak about withdrawal in less than 5 BTC. [/b] which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly
usually it really takes no more then 24 hours if we speak about withdrawal in less than 5 BTC. [/b] which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly
usually it really takes no more then 24 hours if we speak about withdrawal in less than 5 BTC. [/b] |
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are you talking betcoin(which scammed somejackpot winner)?
if so whats wrong with spreading any usefull truth about scammer company to protect others?
He thinks because he refunds the commission he makes from poker, it makes any non-poker related issues irrelevant. Even though obviously his personal income from the project is almost entirely from casino and sports commision. (He keeps all that, shhh it's a secret though) Also, there are serious issues with how they run their poker room that Xiao plays dumb on. |
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation. Edit: Twitchyseal: My reputation is such a slut! Fuck my reputation! ^^^like that? Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts. I've never said "Betcoin is #1". You know that. I've said that Betcoin is the largest bitcoin poker room before because it is currently. So if that is what you mean, okay. Also please man, you know what I meant. What I meant is that you abuse the little power and reputation that you've gained in the past. Are you talking about my literal reputation? Or the thing that affects the numbers by our names on this forum? |
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation. Edit: Twitchyseal: My reputation is such a slut! Fuck my reputation! ^^^like that? Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts. |
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A lot of players have been complaining that in the tweet where SWC stated that the rake had been lowered, they neglected to mention that they actually increased the rake on tournaments. Has anyone heard anything about tournament rake increases or by how much it's been increased?
it looks like it was increased by less than 2%. I don't like how they went about it and they should have made an announcement about it for sure. it's still lower than any other site tho. I think it's a little more than 2%...5 chip tourneys went from 4.90 + 0.10 chips to 4.70 + 0.30 chips = 200% increase. I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn. excellent point, not shilly at all You're right about the sarcasm part. You don't think that was a shilly comment? Co-conspirator maybe, but I am not responsible for crytosmokers actions. I do agree with him though, except for the 1,000 btc part. |
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If you have Asperger's, you shouldn't be in the position you're in, cause your hit or miss tactics of calling out people and businesses could really hurt someone. Your obnoxiousness and mental instability pretty much outweighs your "scam alerts."
There's more players who've spoken out about you, and people have said stuff to me in private about you which I won't post, but the reason you started to upset me was not because of your issues with Betcoin and Betsoft. I personally believe Betsoft was incredibly unethical in the way they handled the Jasonort situation. But you continue to attack my rakeback program by spamming the Betsoft issue and bringing up old poker room issues (that you had gotten wrong anyway).
Your "rakeback program" is driven by losses in the casino and sportsbook by people who you sign up from your affiliate. Quit with the bullshit. You're an affiliate with deal that allows you to get majority of betcoins poker players. Even the ones that other affiliates deserve. Thats the only reason you spam the same "Betcoin is #1" bull shit everyday. There's nothing in this for me other than the satisfaction of stopping scumbags and hopefully a better future for bitcoin + online poker. Good insults though, keep em comin. That's the point of this thread. |
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*Please do not spam this thread. Can you please respect this? I will if you will. |
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Betcoin is a scummy site. Xiao works for Betcoin. He has over 400 signups under his "rakeback program" Xiao thinks he should be considered a "separate service" or "players advocate" And while the site keeps fucking player after player Xiao will keep spamming the same "come play at Betcoin it's awesome" posts in each of his three threads in hopes of getting more sign ups. He's not a players advocate, or a "separate service for poker players" He's a Betcoin affiliate that gets a fat cut of nearly every serious Betcoin poker players losses in the casino or sportsbook. As long as he continues to spam the same 3 threads in attempt to drive traffic to Betcoin, I will continue to respond to them with facts so that potential players have the information they need to make an informed decision. The fact that he posted on Betcoins forum (where he is "protected" from anyone disagreeing with him)about my behavior on this forum and to request for people to attack me on this forum but should paint the picture.  |
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Yeah, I assume because we have no other choice.
Edit: do you even read what I write or just rant nonsense?
No do YOU even read what I write? Yes, I do read what you write. You should read what I write in the future to save yourself from repeating things. Its only fair. You assume Betcoin bribed them. Yes, that's correct, I assume Betcoin bribed them. Maybe because Betcoin showed CardChat the responses from the players and because CardsChat realized the reason for the blacklist made little sense? Yeah, maybe. THere are lots of things on this that makes little sense though, why only remove Betcoin? Probably bc Betcoin bribed them. If CardsChat is so easily bribed, than why were you posting their reviews as if it has so much merit? You only started changing your stance after you realized you shouldn't have been posting the CardsChat review as if it has merit.
To be honest, I think the whole list is stupid. It's been up for months. The only reason it got any attention is because I tweeted it at them last week. Betcoins reaction is what I'm trying to bring attention to, not the list. They put all effort into trying to make people think they are honest and transparent and no effort into being honest or transparent. THis is another example. |
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 ^^Bestslotsgambling...do you have link to their website or any info on them? I think they may only exist in your head.  ^^^Provably fair? Prove it please. |
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The reason it was removed was because it had no reason to even be on the blacklist from the start. That blacklist is a joke because SWC is on their as well. Why don't you spam SWC thread with the blacklist TwitchySeal? Also why isn't PokerStars on that blacklist? They removed people's Supernova statuses at the END of the year after they had worked the entire year trying to achieve it. Does that not warrant to be on the blacklist? Hence that blacklist is a joke. But you're still posting it to libel and spam. Does this look like a valid reason?  Why didn't they remove SWC then? Why only Betcoin? Oh, maybe it's because SWC doesn't bribe people. Edit: do you even read what I write or just rant nonsense? To be honest, I think the whole list is stupid. It's been up for months. The only reason it got any attention is because I tweeted it at them last week.
Betcoins reaction is what I'm trying to bring attention to, not the list. They put all effort into trying to make people think they are honest and transparent and no effort into being honest or transparent. THis is another example.
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Betcoin has been attempting to discredit me for a while now by making false or only partially true claims made either here or more recently on their own forums and chat room - a community that has no rules and is censored without explanation. They ignore 95% of my responses in this forum and ban me on their own site, so I will use this thread to respond each of their accusations. Some of their claims are true or partially true, but more often they are malicious lies. It's also obvious they are paying users to attack me.
First we have an example of Betcoin paying a player to literally make up a story about me based on nothing but lies. Twitchyseal Offered Me Money on Instagram to Lie About BetcoinLink: https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoinArchived: https://archive.is/yDEjyWhat really happened: I noticed a new player "ajundftd" in Betcoin Chat getting treated like shit ( not unusual ) It wasn't clear if he was innocent or not, but Betcoin Andrew was calling him a liar and trolling him. Here's some of the transcript: https://archive.is/B5Mle <==archive of betcoins archive Read From Bottom to Top ajundftd: one sitting*
5:11pmajundftd: not 10k in sitting
5:11pmajundftd: 5k bets back to back
5:11pmantonlevay: i keep asking you how you bet 10k chips and you dont answer
5:11pmajundftd: was waiting
5:11pmajundftd: figured it was refunded
5:10pmajundftd: then refresh hand two wasn't even touched
5:10pmantonlevay: asince high limit is 2500 max
5:10pmantonlevay: and since you say you bet 10k chips you had to of played 2 hands and dbled them in high limit
5:10pmajundftd: said "server disconnection"
5:10pmajundftd: when I hit "hit" on the first hand it froze
5:10pmantonlevay: well again, if it is bj and you press hit stand or double, it plays it
5:10pmajundftd: i even asked them to look back at the hands through videos because I can't
5:09pmajundftd: anton that's exactly what I was expecting to happen
5:09pmajundftd: and you guys don't even address the fact that I am seeing something totally opposite
ajundftd: Why do I have a 14 screenshots showing error message on the 13th
5:08pmajundftd: Your software provider said he didn't have a problem after the 12th
5:08pmajundftd: So I don't come here and get called a cheater
5:08pmajundftd: As best as possible
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: I know you are not.
5:07pmajundftd: I'm trying to document things
5:07pmajundftd: I'm not even stating facts andrew
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: You can't think you are the only one who plays big blackjack hands.
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: We just state facts ajun, some of our newer players try to abuse.
5:07pmantonlevay: or you had 2 hands where you dbled?
5:07pmmichigan1: https://twitter.com/zizzle77/status/754056929475899393
5:07pmmichigan1: Everyone retweet this just once and we will get more peeps to the daily :)
5:07pmajundftd: confirm that I lied about the timing of the vidoes?
5:07pmfallenhigh: ill even comment on thread because 20000 is better the 666$ any day
5:07pmBetcoin Andrew: Will you confirm that or still no?
5:07pmajundftd: you're reaching for something when I have evidence your software is going down on me when i'm placing 10k bets
5:06pmantonlevay: on high limit max is 2500
5:06pmantonlevay: where you bet 10k chips?
5:06pmajundftd: then why do i have a screenshot showing an error on the 13th
5:06pmBetcoin Andrew: You certainly lied about when you shot the videos.    That kept going on for a couple hours, but obviously that guy was pissed off and not getting anywhere. So, I created a new account with the sole intention of telling him to come here to Bitcointalk and create a post. Otherwise they would likely do nothing for him. (My account was instantly banned as usual and the comment deleted from the archive, but he he was able to read the comment firs) Shortly after, Andrew came back to the chat room and told him to to come to private support chat. Note time stamps:  An hour later, he posts his thread about me offering him money to lie and says only nice things about Betcoin from then on. Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put Betcoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames. He also created an account here and posted: Had to share my story regarding Twitchyseal and the level of his trolling. Twitchyseal contacted me on Instagram and offered me money to lie about Betcoin and their treatment of me. I, of course refused, because despite a few issues that were fixed promptly, enjoy Betcoin and look forward to playing here. This level of trolling is unacceptable. Look out for him. He is willing to do anything to put BetCoin's name in harms way. He has many usernames.
This one involves a Betcoin affiliate (that receives higher commission than the top tier they advertise/essentially an employee) (Xiao = harryjr lolxiao = me)  Images:   Xiao has yet to leave any neg trust for me, and i think he only posted this because he thought I wouldn't see it or something? Shortly after he sent this pm to all his signups which is mostly bullshit: Hi Members of the BetcoinRakeback.com 40-150% extra rakeback program. Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0First of all I'd like to thank all of you for taking advantage of this profitable program. It has allowed many of you to consistently profit in the poker room. However, as some of you may know, user 'TwitchySeal' aka 'OHYEAH' has been determined to libel this RB service. Some of you have already expressed your outrage towards his behavior/spam in my thread and have complained to me about him. Basically, he has a vendetta against Betcoin management and he's willing to attack anyone associated with Betcoin from affiliates to players. A lot of times his intentions may seem good and they are (when he fairly calls out sites for irrational decisions), but he has ulterior motives which are ego-driven. He uses alternate accounts and has co-conspirators to accomplish his goals. And furthermore, he is a highly confrontational and impatient person. His behavior in our service thread confuses newcomers and makes them afraid to take advantage of this program, and they end up playing else where paying a lot higher rake. Betcoin Poker is a blossoming poker environment with a community where both players and live support can police the tables nearly 24/7 and can call out questionable plays such as collusion or bots in the forums/chat; no other poker establishment has this. Though I don't always agree with the decisions and viewpoints of Betcoin management, I can assure you that they are not 'scammers.' Scammers cannot get this far in the gaming world and have the connections they have (WPN software/membership, Casino providers, Sportsbook providers). Having spoken to them many times I know they are well-funded. In fact they own several other small licensed online gaming establishments but for anonymity's sake haven't divulged the exact ownership. I can assure you they're goal is creating a good poker room, but they were very inexperienced with online poker management and have been steadily learning. I am asking you as your loyal affiliate if you could please give some feedback in my thread to let new users know how rewarding this program can be, so that this program can grow, and in turn it will help the poker room grow so we could all reap the rewards. Sincerely, Xiao |
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Oh one more thing (almost forgot) Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist for July 2016. Not an easy thing to do.  Cardschat already removed this though... why still post this? Because it's something Betcoin doesn't want people to know about. I think they paid cardschat somehow to get it removed. Which is why no explanation was given by Cardschat. I want people to realize how scummy Betcoin is. To be honest, I think the whole list is stupid. It's been up for months. The only reason it got any attention is because I tweeted it at them last week. Watch August 1, it will be the same list it is now with "August" instead of "July" Nothing else will change. (Well, I don't know for sure, but it was the same for May and June) Betcoins reaction is what I'm trying to bring attention to, not the list. They put all effort into trying to make people think they are honest and transparent and no effort into being honest or transparent. THis is another example. |
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