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July 17, 2016, 03:23:31 AM
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Here's how some of my players feel about his posts in my thread yet he continues to spam my thread for malicious reasons, and he's even acknowledged to me he's purposely being malicious and "attacking" me.



Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


Just to say that Xiao is a nice affiliate and that I never had any problems neither my sub affiliate (He rakes high values not tiny tiny low as this loosers posting).

Xiao pays the right amount on time and always answers very quickly to any doubt so I dont understand this losers that keep posting.

And yes I check if the value of rake returned is right and it is.

Betcoin pays very fast and is a nice place to play.



Wow twitchy and the other trolls have to be some of the biggest dumbest trolls on the internet. Xaio provides a service and provides it very well. He can't do anything about what you are complaining about. He has also shown himself to be of high character with regsrd to the players over and over. I guarantee I've paid more rake to betcoin than anyone here and I don't feel slighted at all. They offer the best rb and xaio is a credit to the players. Continuing to nag him about this is pointless and just makes this thread unbearable.

Yes, why you don't start your own thread instead of filling this thread with garbage.  You clearly have mental problems as many people have stated.  Start your own thread and say whatever you want.



Wow you guys need to leave Xiao the fuck alone, everything about this service is amazing.



Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


This +1.

Xiaoxiao has always been great with his service, always paid the right amount in time and responded to queries very quickly and professionally. I dont know why one or two people have made it their purpose of life to bash him and his service all day long, its quite sad to see really. Ive had nothing but good experiences with the OP, he always paid what he promised and on time (which is a LOT more that can be said about most affs) and would absolutely recommend his rakeback for Betcoin.

When a player of mine posted this:

I always been payed by this affiliate he honors his word and my win rate on betcoin is higher then any other site. It has the weakest players. I honestly think bet coin is doing a great job and I am very negative about online poker rooms in general.

He immediately quoted a review that he made over 1 year ago in an attempt to shame him.  But that was 1 year ago, so clearly that means his opinion of the poker room has changed.

never mind dont sign up on betcoin. I just talked to their customer service very unprofessional and wont answer your question about if a game freezes in a sng do we get a refund. They siad just send a ticket. Screw them all join seals. Worst customer service I have had on any poker site. And they need customers and i play daily and play poker for a living. They thought i already signed up and had money deposited on the site so decided to be snotty and rude to me.  Great customer support. Dudes name was julian i think. GG. Ty for offer though I appreciate you trying to help out poker community but im not dealing with non professional people.


And also another example of Twitchy attacking my players.  When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:


I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

Twitchy sarcastically assumed he was "shilly" and then used one of his alternates/co-conspirator to give him a bad feedback, the same alternate he used to give me a bad feedback after he already gave me a malicious false feedback awhile ago.



excellent point, not shilly at all







Some more of my players telling him to stop spamming my service thread and their opinions of him:

Xiao, I thought you weren't going to respond to Twitchy anymore. There's no point in arguing with this guy. Not many regs like him either cause he takes up all of supports time when we're the ones that need help....



Can you be a little less cryptic for once and explain what you mean? We aren't all off our meds and we don't all speak spergs so please specify what you mean by shorting people rakeback.

If he has Asperger's or any other mental disability, he shouldn't be in the position he's in, cause his hit or miss tactics of calling out people and businesses could really hurt someone.  His obnoxiousness and mental instability pretty much outweighs his "scam alerts."  

There's more players who've spoken out about him, and people have said stuff to me in private about him which I won't post, but the reason he started to upset me was not because of his issues with Betcoin and Betsoft.  I personally believe Betsoft was incredibly unethical in the way they handled the Jasonort situation.  But he continues to attack my rakeback program by spamming the Betsoft issue and bringing up old poker room issues (that he had gotten wrong anyway).


Some evidence of Twitchy having alternates:




No, I'm leaning towards the fact that he is your alternate.  His claims are nearly identical to yours.  He supports all your posts, but either way it doesn't matter.  You've called out BtcFTW and NooBTC or something like that for doing the same thing.  Yet you do the exact same thing.

Latest posts of Cryptosmoker: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427;sa=showPosts

Someone that works as hard as Twitchy in his investigations but hasn't logged in for 3 days now?  I can't imagine someone that is like a clone of Twitchy but hasn't logged into the forums for 3 days now.









His actions aren't any better than the recipients of his accusations.  He abuses the little power that he's gained from sitting at the computer nearly 24/7 and calling out businesses with his hit or miss tactics.  

He clearly knew that the CardsChat review of Betcoin Poker had already been removed, but he continued posting it everywhere as if it was still valid.  Anyone with common sense could see that that review was virtually gibberish.



He infers that the reason it was removed was because Betcoin bribed them, but he's got absolutely no proof.  And even if Betcoin did bribe them, that just means he's posting the review of a company that accepts bribes as if it has merit.

He assumes that just because some players are outraged at him, it is the work of Betcoin.  That is not true, the reason I began noticing him was because he continued to spam my thread, and lately with casino related issues that has nothing to do with my rakeback service nor the poker room.

PS: There's a lot more cases in the past where Twitchy had been adamant that he's correct and it turned out that his assumption was wrong.  
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July 17, 2016, 03:28:43 AM
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation.


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Twitchyseal: My reputation is such a slut!  Fuck my reputation!

^^^like that?

Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. 

Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? 

Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts.


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July 17, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation.


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Twitchyseal: My reputation is such a slut!  Fuck my reputation!

^^^like that?

Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. 

Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? 

Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts.



I've never said "Betcoin is #1".  You know that.  I've said that Betcoin is the largest bitcoin poker room before because it is currently.  So if that is what you mean, okay. 

Also please man, you know what I meant.  What I meant is that you abuse the little power and reputation that you've gained in the past.
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July 17, 2016, 03:48:08 AM
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation.


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Twitchyseal: My reputation is such a slut!  Fuck my reputation!

^^^like that?

Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier. 

Xiao, lets discuss this in one place? 

Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts.



I've never said "Betcoin is #1".  You know that.  I've said that Betcoin is the largest bitcoin poker room before because it is currently.  So if that is what you mean, okay. 

Also please man, you know what I meant.  What I meant is that you abuse the little power and reputation that you've gained in the past.

Are you talking about my literal reputation?  Or the thing that affects the numbers by our names on this forum?

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July 17, 2016, 04:52:07 AM
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are you talking betcoin(which scammed somejackpot winner)?

if so whats wrong with spreading any usefull truth about scammer company to protect others?

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July 17, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
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are you talking betcoin(which scammed somejackpot winner)?

if so whats wrong with spreading any usefull truth about scammer company to protect others?
He thinks because he refunds the commission he makes from poker, it makes any non-poker related issues irrelevant.  

Even though obviously his personal income from the project is almost entirely from casino and sports commision. (He keeps all that, shhh it's a secret though)  

Also, there are serious issues with how they run their poker room that Xiao plays dumb on.

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July 17, 2016, 08:46:46 AM
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Let's keep the car in the road here. This isn't about, nor has it ever been about any one particular person's reputation, character, thoughts, opinions, etc. This isn't about the jasonort issue, this isn't about xiao, and this isn't about twitchy. This is a campaign for the greater good of everyone who plays unregulated bitcoin poker or casinos. This is a campaign for transparency, a campaign for righteousness. Just because there is no central regulatory authority on any of this stuff, doesn't mean people, ideas, or the truth need to be disregarded whenever it is convenient for profit margins. I like Betcoin poker. There have been some issues during the 18 months I have used their site, but for the most part they have been handled eventually.

Two issues in particular stick out to me though, the overake issue from Oct. 30-Dec. 11, and the Betsoft casino debacle recently. I had to campaign for nearly 5 months, mostly just myself and twitchy, while some threw tar at me and others threw feathers. In the end, Betcoin finally chose to publicly acknowledge that the issue occurred and gave me credit for bringing it to their attention. The problem was, not everyone who was overcharged reads the forum and ever even knew it happened, and probably still don't know. This is not ethical. Betcoin invited everyone to submit their play for review for a refund, but also at the same time, discouraged them from doing so by threatening to charge them money if it was found that they weren't overcharged. Eventually, 95% of players opted for the free daily coin ticket handout rather than risking asking for a review and being charged, this was not acceptable.
Then there is this Betsoft debacle. Betcoin staff member plo8monster responded "yes" when I asked if he had reason to believe that the casinolistings.com study was altered, or that the findings had been altered. Basically, the only way that Betcoin can move forward with Betsoft as a provider is by saying that all the mounds of evidence against them is fraudulent, and it appears this is the course they could be taking, this also is not acceptable.

Back to twitchy and his reputation, though. Twitchy has not, and does not come half-cocked with accusations. He does his homework thoroughly, and presents relevant information to the people most affected. He does this for free, and on his own time. He has absolutely nothing to gain from the rise or fall of Betcoin. Accusing him of fabricating information to take down Betcoin is ridiculous.

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July 17, 2016, 04:29:21 PM
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OP why dont you FUCK OFF already?

Hi Members of the BetcoinRakeback.com 40-150% extra rakeback program.  Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0

First of all I'd like to thank all of you for taking advantage of this profitable program.  It has allowed many of you to consistently profit in the poker room.  

However, as some of you may know, user 'TwitchySeal' aka 'OHYEAH' has been determined to libel this RB service.  Some of you have already expressed your outrage towards his behavior/spam in my thread and have complained to me about him.  Basically, he has a vendetta against Betcoin management and he's willing to attack anyone associated with Betcoin from affiliates to players.  A lot of times his intentions may seem good and they are (when he fairly calls out sites for irrational decisions), but he has ulterior motives which are ego-driven.  He uses alternate accounts and has co-conspirators to accomplish his goals.  And furthermore, he is a highly confrontational and impatient person.  His behavior in our service thread confuses newcomers and makes them afraid to take advantage of this program, and they end up playing else where paying a lot higher rake.  Betcoin Poker is a blossoming poker environment with a community where both players and live support can police the tables nearly 24/7 and can call out questionable plays such as collusion or bots in the forums/chat; no other poker establishment has this.

Though I don't always agree with the decisions and viewpoints of Betcoin management, I can assure you that they are not 'scammers.'  Scammers cannot get this far in the gaming world and have the connections they have (WPN software/membership, Casino providers, Sportsbook providers).  Having spoken to them many times I know they are well-funded.  In fact they own several other small licensed online gaming establishments but for anonymity's sake haven't divulged the exact ownership.

I can assure you they're goal is creating a good poker room, but they were very inexperienced with online poker management and have been steadily learning.  I am asking you as your loyal affiliate if you could please give some feedback in my thread to let new users know how rewarding this program can be, so that this program can grow, and in turn it will help the poker room grow so we could all reap the rewards.

Sincerely,
Xiao

You should be banned for spamming shit like this. Spew these bullshit to your mother. Angry
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OP why dont you FUCK OFF already?

Hi Members of the BetcoinRakeback.com 40-150% extra rakeback program.  Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0

First of all I'd like to thank all of you for taking advantage of this profitable program.  It has allowed many of you to consistently profit in the poker room.  

However, as some of you may know, user 'TwitchySeal' aka 'OHYEAH' has been determined to libel this RB service.  Some of you have already expressed your outrage towards his behavior/spam in my thread and have complained to me about him.  Basically, he has a vendetta against Betcoin management and he's willing to attack anyone associated with Betcoin from affiliates to players.  A lot of times his intentions may seem good and they are (when he fairly calls out sites for irrational decisions), but he has ulterior motives which are ego-driven.  He uses alternate accounts and has co-conspirators to accomplish his goals.  And furthermore, he is a highly confrontational and impatient person.  His behavior in our service thread confuses newcomers and makes them afraid to take advantage of this program, and they end up playing else where paying a lot higher rake.  Betcoin Poker is a blossoming poker environment with a community where both players and live support can police the tables nearly 24/7 and can call out questionable plays such as collusion or bots in the forums/chat; no other poker establishment has this.

Though I don't always agree with the decisions and viewpoints of Betcoin management, I can assure you that they are not 'scammers.'  Scammers cannot get this far in the gaming world and have the connections they have (WPN software/membership, Casino providers, Sportsbook providers).  Having spoken to them many times I know they are well-funded.  In fact they own several other small licensed online gaming establishments but for anonymity's sake haven't divulged the exact ownership.

I can assure you they're goal is creating a good poker room, but they were very inexperienced with online poker management and have been steadily learning.  I am asking you as your loyal affiliate if you could please give some feedback in my thread to let new users know how rewarding this program can be, so that this program can grow, and in turn it will help the poker room grow so we could all reap the rewards.

Sincerely,
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You should be banned for spamming shit like this. Spew these bullshit to your mother. Angry

Ok guy, when it's directed at members of MY service, it's not SPAM, idiot.  Please don't go around lying and saying you received this message.  The last time I checked, you're not a member of my service.
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July 17, 2016, 08:12:32 PM
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Please explain how one abuses their own reputation.
Edit:
Twitchyseal:My reputation is such a slut!  Fuck my reputation!
^^^like that?
Edit2: If mod wants to move all the Xiao related posts from the thread I started earlier today to this one it might be easier.  
Xiao, lets discuss this in one place?  
Of course if you continue to spam your 3+ threads with "Betcoin is #1" posts, I will have to continue to respond with "Betcoin is not #1 here is why" posts.
I've never said "Betcoin is #1".  You know that.  I've said that Betcoin is the largest bitcoin poker room before because it is currently.  So if that is what you mean, okay.  
Also please man, you know what I meant.  What I meant is that you abuse the little power and reputation that you've gained in the past.
Are you talking about my literal reputation?  Or the thing that affects the numbers by our names on this forum?

Hi,

Still trying to understand what you're accusing me of. ^^^


Ok guy, when it's directed at members of MY service, it's not SPAM, idiot.  

Disagree with you here, but just my opinion - most of my posts are spam to you, most of your posts are spam to me.

That pm was spam to many of your members.

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July 17, 2016, 08:54:15 PM
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Hi,

I see since my last post you've changed the topic from

"[Beware] TwitchySeal: Abuses his Reputation with Hit or Miss accusations, etc"

to

"[Beware] TwitchySeal: Abuses his Rep, replies to his own posts with alts, etc"


Could you please explain why?

I don't know what you mean by "abuses his rep" or "etc" but I do not reply to my own post with alts.  

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July 18, 2016, 10:57:34 PM
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Hey Twitchy nice job.
Seriously, I thought this thread would just be like all the others with betcoin supporters pretending to be even dumber than they actually are.  Nice surprise.

Well I guess Lauda wasnt technically a betcoin supporter.  Guess thats why it ended ok.


Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.
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It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427
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It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?
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It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?

Please don't play stupid.
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 Grin  Stop embarrassing yourself..... Your are the one promoting and earning from a casino with questionable character.



It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?

Please don't play stupid.
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Grin  Stop embarrassing yourself..... Your are the one promoting and earning from a casino with questionable character.



It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?

Please don't play stupid.

Great, Twitchy and his co-conspirator using another alternate account....
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Oh I see.... so anyone that thinks betcoin.ag + you are scammers is TwitchySeal? You must encounter many TwitchySeal's then. I see you moved the thread... tnx

Grin  Stop embarrassing yourself..... Your are the one promoting and earning from a casino with questionable character.



It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?

Please don't play stupid.

Great, Twitchy and his co-conspirator using another alternate account....
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Oh I see.... so anyone that thinks betcoin.ag + you are scammers is TwitchySeal? You must encounter many TwitchySeal's then. I see you moved the thread... tnx

Grin  Stop embarrassing yourself..... Your are the one promoting and earning from a casino with questionable character.



It's hard to believe a watchdog such as cryptosmoker, whose posts are nearly identical as TwitchySeal's posts, has yet to login since I created this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=511427

And why is this in scam accusations?  How has he scammed?

Please don't play stupid.

Great, Twitchy and his co-conspirator using another alternate account....

Hey guy, I am not a scammer.  I was a reputable member before I started the rakeback service.  Betcoin is not a scam either.  Just because of one problem with a facet of the casino (one type of slot machine) not does equate to the entire site being a "scam" and extend to the poker room.  If I suspected Betcoin was a scam, I would NOT have began working with them a few years ago.

 I manage a high rakeback service for the poker room of which hundreds of players have relied on for years.  For many its enabled them to have a solid income.  Now I apologize for lashing out and saying you are 'Twitchy'.  TwitchySeal isn't just a one man party.  He admittedly said he has co-conspirators.
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July 23, 2016, 08:45:17 PM
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Hey guy, I am not a scammer.  I was a reputable member before I started the rakeback service.
So now you are?  Roll Eyes

Just because of one problem with a facet of the casino (one type of slot machine) not does equate to the entire site being a "scam" and extend to the poker room.
And what of these problems? I think Betcoin has proven many times that if they can not find a way to weasel out of a problem, then they will ignore it.

If I suspected Betcoin was a scam, I would NOT have began working with them a few years ago.
A site might start off legitimately, but it could always start turning more and more scammy. You may have begun working with good intentions, but money can change that.

Now I apologize for lashing out and saying you are 'Twitchy'.  TwitchySeal isn't just a one man party.  He admittedly said he has co-conspirators.
Reference and relevance? If he has a "team" or something similar, what does that have to do with anything? It helps with efficiency, and uncovering all the things that Betcoin has done.

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