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5721  Other / Meta / Re: Consolidate Betcoins Threads Please on: July 07, 2016, 01:53:19 AM
Also, they have affiliate doing the same thing, across 3 different threads posting same exact thing.  (Oh and now he has his own shill campaign as well)

Please take advantage of some of the perks that this poker room has to offer:

-Great rakeback (actually the best in the industry)
-Massive overlays in MTT's and the Daily Coin
-2FA for added security
-Bonuses
-Community
-BTC and LTC deposits/cashouts
-No annoying conversions that USD sites have to do when depositing/withdrawing with BTC
Please take advantage of some of the perks that this poker room has to offer:

-Great rakeback (actually the best in the industry)
-Massive overlays in MTT's and the Daily Coin
-2FA for added security
-Bonuses
-Community
-BTC and LTC deposits/cashouts
-No annoying conversions that USD sites have to do when depositing/withdrawing with BTC
Please take advantage of some of the perks that this poker room has to offer:

-Great rakeback (actually the best in the industry)
-Massive overlays in MTT's and the Daily Coin
-2FA for added security
-Bonuses
-Community
-BTC and LTC deposits/cashouts
-No annoying conversions that USD sites have to do when depositing/withdrawing with BTC
5722  Other / Meta / Consolidate Betcoins Threads Please on: July 07, 2016, 01:29:04 AM
Betcoinpoker.com Thread

Betcoincasino.com thread

Betcoinsports.com Thread

The urls all forward to Betcoin.ag

They are total scum relying on bribing anyone who realizes it and confusing anyone who doesn't.

3 separate threads just increases the chances of someone falling for their crap because they found the one thread I forgot to dispute their most recent spew and only saw sig campaign members kissing ass and assumed they were actual player.

5723  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: July 07, 2016, 12:48:58 AM
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?

Were you at the fireside chat?

I personally would like to see details of what deal was made to jasonrt. Personally the fact that nothing is being handled publically shows the lack of professionalism by betcoin and betsoft. With them also crying in previous post about their rep taking a hit is hilarious.

To betcoin.ag your rep took a hit because you guys decided to take it upon yourselves to handle this in a totally unacceptable way. Sure you can claim jasonrt is happy. Id be happy too if i went from getting 0 of what i legitimately won to getting something(who knows what that something is).

Bottom line DO NOT PLAY at betcoin as youll obviously be fucked over n have to settle for less than expected.

 "This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details." This is a direct quote from jasonrt on the betcoin ag website. Basically confirming he was paid to shut up.

Jason imglad you got some money out of the deal but im pretty sure id hit the withdrawal button and run before they fuck you outta some more money

No, I am banned from Betcoin.

I often create new accounts to talk to other Betcoin players, but as soon as management notices I'm there they ban the account and delete anything I've said from all archives.  (fireside chat would be bad time to create new account for me)

Posting these questions to Jason in each thread Betcoin decided to share their "resolution" 



Jason,

I'm glad you got paid something but obviously it was not the 505+ BTC jackpot. 

1)  How much did you get?

2)  Was your voice here on the forum part of the negotiations?  ( Translate: have you been paid to post nice things about Betcoin )

3)  Will you continue to play Glam Life? 

4)  Will you continue to play the other progressive jackpot slots provided by Betsoft?

5)  Do you support Betcoins decision to continue offering these games, unlike Bovada, Slots.lv, Bitcasino.io, Vegascasino.io and any other site who removed them after learning of your experience?
5724  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinCasino.com-Betcoin.ag-DICE - 100% Bonus!480 BTC jackpots on: July 07, 2016, 12:44:05 AM
Jason,

I'm glad you got paid something but obviously it was not the 505+ BTC jackpot. 

1)  How much did you get?

2)  Was your voice here on the forum part of the negotiations?  ( Translate: have you been paid to post nice things about Betcoin )

3)  Will you continue to play Glam Life? 

4)  Will you continue to play the other progressive jackpot slots provided by Betsoft?

5)  Do you support Betcoins decision to continue offering these games, unlike Bovada, Slots.lv, Bitcasino.io, Vegascasino.io and any other site who removed them after learning of your experience?



5725  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 06, 2016, 10:55:28 PM
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?
5726  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: July 06, 2016, 10:55:10 PM
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?
5727  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: July 06, 2016, 10:55:03 PM
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?
5728  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinCasino.com-NEW LIVE CASINO-Instant Dep & With-100% Bonus-160+Games-LTC on: July 06, 2016, 03:27:00 AM
I think i found the only progressive win in the history of Betcoin....anyone else know of any?

Congratulations to www.BetcoinCasino.com's btc2014 who scored a 3,800 mbtc progressive jackpot at 3D Slot Greedy Goblins.  The progressives have now reached 443,268.85 mbtc at www.BetcoinCasino.com.  Come win some bitcoin today.



http://www.betcoincasino.com/games/progressive
5729  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinCasino.com - FREE SPIN FRIDAY - THE ARRIVAL 3D Slot-100% Deposit Bonus on: July 06, 2016, 03:18:47 AM
Ok I'm trying this out.  I'm waiting on deposit to confirm.

I notice when I click progressives on the top of screen I'm taken to some slot options.  Then if I hover over the slots it says "progressive: no".  are they progressive payout or not?

edit:  my deposit has a confirmation but it still shows that I have the balance but it's not available

What is your username?  You can pm us if you wish.  Deposits are instant with zero confirmations. 

The progressives are definitely paying out.  We are looking into this right now. 


5730  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: July 06, 2016, 01:51:18 AM
Yes. They sent one message in 7 days.

"Hi hungerstyle / rangernation,

According to our records the previous bet that you placed remains unpaid since it was double spent :

https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JtH9TefRKwB9W71qeD2fAGGCp27PtWnnn

https://directbet.eu/Download/rangernation1.png
https://directbet.eu/Download/rangernation2.png
https://directbet.eu/Download/rangernation3.png

The stake of your new rejected bet # 1J48n6KMDKutNcb68ywoHgfrZVkD28Vrfk was used to cover for the unpaid bet above."




Idk what transaction that is. They just ignore and post that bs post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc) , if that is what they are claiming. There suport simply doesnt exist.  Anyone can troll the blockchain and insert into their database. Text on an html page is meaningless. I sent them btc, they did not return it. That is the definition of scamming.

The support is dismal and their actions reflect how their site is run. I can see from previous posts why people have negative experiences with this site.

I really don't think this is hungarstyle.  Really weird/bad way approach to try and get your money back...

Any normal (innocent) person would be making it clear that someone else was respponsible for the 15btc double spend.


Instead this is his entire relevant argument :
Quote
Idk what transaction that is.

Followed by a bunch of irellevant bullshit:

Quote
They just ignore and post that bs post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc) , if that is what they are claiming. There suport simply doesnt exist.  Anyone can troll the blockchain and insert into their database. Text on an html page is meaningless. I sent them btc, they did not return it. That is the definition of scamming.

The support is dismal and their actions reflect how their site is run. I can see from previous posts why people have negative experiences with this site.

Maybe ranger is just angling for a little bonus and I'm assuming wrong that he thinks we all think he's innocent?


With all that in mind, here you are in the same situation DB.
 You need to change something, or this is going to keep happening.
Anytime a site flatout ignores a player, (unless it's obvious without any context needed) its bad for all of us.   
5731  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB/WTS] BTC with SKrill, Neteller,PM,PokerStar on: July 05, 2016, 08:51:53 PM
I have PokerStars. Interested? Sent u a pm

Pretty sure this is a scammer from Betrcoin that is going to try and get you to send first or something stupid.
5732  Other / Meta / Re: User spamming with 8-9 alts on: July 05, 2016, 08:49:36 PM
1. He is spamming the forum. he doesn't care about contributing but cares to only make repetitive posts from different accounts in same thread.
Describes 99% of the users here,
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2. he is scamming giveaways.giveaways don't allow multiple accounts and he is scamming them by using different accounts to scam owner for more money.
Scamming is not against the forum rules.
Quote
his posts are of same length. clearly to qualify for min post requirement.
That's what the requirement is for.
Quote
they are not even contributing to the topics.
Sure are. Real meat traffic. Makes this forum more attractive to advertisers.

randomstanger - 4

VealUsher - 0

(score^^^)


And I think you ought to talk to the campaign manager,  as having multiple accounts here is allowed.   Mods aren't going to do much.

I promise you fortunejack will do less.

5733  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: July 05, 2016, 08:34:44 PM
I sent directbet a bet last week for 9.049

Directbet did not return my bet and has since ignored PM, email, and any acknowledgement in this thread.


I see your frustration in their slow support negative overall experience.

Do your homework before using this book.

Why not just tell the whole story instead of playing games?

Or are you going to play the "I didn't see the note on bet and they didn't explain it in email after asking me to contact them " card?

5734  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: Fun-casino - first decentralized Bitcoin casino. on: July 05, 2016, 05:21:50 PM
Happy to announce that BetSoft Slots had been finally integrated to FUN-CASINO. Now you can enjoy playing world famous high-quality slots right here
You couldn't have picked a worse time to add BetSoft slots then right now. Recently, a betcoin.ag player played a betsoft game with a progressive jackpot, and won. He was only paid 0.5BTC, which is small compared to the actual advertised amount. Betsoft have refused to pay it, and added a new rule after he won. You can read more about it here. What is your stance on the Betsoft refusing payouts thing? You should remove their slots, since although you make profit, players won't be happy if they win and don't get paid. They have also changed their terms and conditions, without stating that they did. It was proven here. I don't think having shady games like that at your casino, but I guess I doesn't make that much of a difference because you guys are already shady.

Hi,
as an Affiliate just would like to know from you why I've received only the 10% commissions from the revenue generated in June, despite your affiliate T&C says that the base revenue should be 40%, as stated here: https://www.fun-casino.com/affiliates.

Feel free to contact me in private or to give me an email where I can reach you.

Regards

They have done exactly the same thing with a no deposit promotion they had not too long ago. So yeah I would suggest you to stay away from this. Below you can see the reference.

RIGGED SITE

my friends already hit jackpot with bonus on there and win 2.33++BTC
withdraw not working and discarded amount lol

I think if you do not want to take risks when making a sale with a bonus for playing,do not make stupid sites like this


RIP ....


Withdrawal can't be made due to several reasons described here. So there are no doubts that your friends abused any of these rules and their cashout had been canceled.

We are fair to all players who are fair with us, so please don't be so rude.

Have a good one! Wink

misused like what do you mean ?
i see my friends play with normal , only one account and hit with jackpot lol
but never make deposit on there, yups it is one good reason because this is a new site , and may not be everyone discover new sites will make a deposit directly without trying or seeing

thats the point why you make promotion with bonus balance for play on your site right ? for people trying first your site .
and whathappend if someone make profit with your bonus ? Do you not think before?

if you could give evidence here as giving the screenshot or




One more time, all our users who obtained their No deposit bonus and followed our rules, were paid their 0.12 btc already. It's not in casino intersts to deny withdrawals of fair players.

I have a lot of evidence, that you have changed the rules of it when I tried to withdraw 2.3BTC. well if properly max withdrawals 0.12BTC. but why do you still refuse my withdrawal?


I have a lot of evidence, just waiting, I will make a thread about your cheating.

If you've forgotten you was paid 0.12 BTC after what all your further requests for cashout were declined

You still choose to ignore that you have changed the TOS AFTER they tried to withdraw... With the TOS at that time their withdrawal was valid yet you chose to cancel it. Can you comment on that?

Terms can be edited according to the current situation. In this case it was evident that users abused this promo action, so initially casino stated the max amount to withdrawal (what is fair enough taking into account that users didn't make any deposits at all) and later the promo was stopped at all. Still, all players taking part in it were paid the promised sum (excluding bonus hunters, etc) and some still have active bonuse which can be played untill May, 15.

The users that requested the withdrawal have NOT abused the promotion in any way.. You just canceled their payments THEN changed the TOS (to limit the amount they can withdraw). At the time they requested the withdraw they had done NOTHING abusive and it was NOTHING against the TOS. So again, why was those requests denied?


Hello, the stated above user had been withdrawn his max 0.12 btc available for that promo. Yes, the rules were changed because of players abuse of this promo (using multiply accounts to receive as many bonuses as possible, etc) and finally was stopped.
 

When this player registered, was there any max .12 btc rule? 

You can't change the rules mid-promotion and enforce them on players who have already signed up and played. 

It's your job to establish the rules before the promotion.  Players will always take full advantage of any promo you offer by the way. 
5735  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betsoft Gamings Questionable Behavior, How Should Bitcoin Casinos Respond? on: July 05, 2016, 04:19:08 PM
Bodog/Bovada/Slots.lv dropped jackpot slots kast week.

Just got an email that looks like they have cut all ties:

    Hey xxxxxx,

Please note that we are performing a game library update today.    
    We'd like to apologize for any inconvenience this may cause as we recognize that a number of these games featured progressive jackpots that were very popular with our players. We are exploring options now to replace those jackpot games, please stay tuned for more details later this week.   
    Moving forward, the following games will no longer be available:   
    •   2 Million BC
•   A Night in Paris
•   After Night Falls
•   Arrival
•   At The Movies
•   Aztec Treasures
•   Back in Time
•   Barbary Coast
•   Black Gold
•   Boomanji
•   Common Draw Roulette
•   Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde
•   Enchanted
•   Event Horizon
•   Fruit Zen
•   Genie's Fortune
•   Gladiator
•   Gold Diggers
•   Gypsy Rose
•   Heist
•   House of Fun
•   It Came From Venus
•   Lost
•   Lucky 7
•   Mad Scientist
•   Madder Scientist
•   Mamma Mia
•   More Gold Diggin'
•   Ned and his Friends
•   Once Upon A Time
•   Paco and the Popping Peppers
•   Pinocchio
•   Puppy Love Plus
•   RockStar
•   Rook's Revenge
•   Royal Reels
•   Safari Sam
•   Seventh Heaven
•   Skratcherz
•   SlotFather
•   SugarPop
•   Sushi Bar
•   The Curious Machine
•   The Exterminator
•   The True Sheriff
•   True Illusions
•   Under the Bed
•   Under the Sea
•   Viking Age
•   Virtual RaceBook
•   Weekend in Vegas
•   Who Spun it?   
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5736  Economy / Gambling / Re: Betsoft Gamings Questionable Behavior, How Should Bitcoin Casinos Respond? on: July 05, 2016, 01:32:50 AM
Hi Ryan! Having a good night?

Not really, I already have a hang-over. How can you tell?  Tongue

Quote
Yes, it implies to all 5 of our Provably Fair Games, not just the feature P2P Game we developed.

I'm not sure what that means. Your feature game is not provably fair... so are you suggesting people don't play it?  Grin

The feature game is Peer to Peer, you're not playing against the house.

The other games we've built a few year back, ahead of the feature game, are located under the "bitcoin casino" button in the top-nav.

OP- Sorry to hijack the thread, I'm done here.

No worries, these are all important things to discuss.  

I think RHaver is right though, about bitcoin rush.  P2P games shouldn't be exempt just because the house isn't a player.  You could easily play as a player and when its your turn to go first, change your number the instant your opponent selects.  It would only take an occasional "switch", to gain a huge edge while it would take a long time for anyone to prove any accusation against you.

Has there ever been a provably fair p2p game?  I doubt we'll ever see a poker site that is successful and provably fair.  If we do I imagine it would need to be limited to heads up play.






Twitchy...  There must be some seriously ill-informed affiliates out there, we are giving out 0.3% of all HANDLE, not losses... Imagine the payback there!
Source: https://bitcoinrush.io/affiliates

I could be wrong, but I believe Betcoin has recently incresed their affiliate structure to be even more aggressive.  This is starting to seem more and more like an amwway-ish multi-level marketing scheme with the software providers at the top (with most of the likely owned by the same people) and less like a "casino"


Also worth mentioning this casino affiliate model does not translate to poker.  Serious players are forced to "affiliate shop" to find the affiliate that pays highest percentage back to them, which means multi accounts and most deals now result in player funds now exposed to a third party in addition to the casino before returning to the player.  Perfect recipe for corruption.  Speaking of which, I recommend checking out the last few pages of Betcoins sig campaign thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15443347#msg15443347

5737  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 04, 2016, 08:20:19 PM
I noticed the campaign manager trashed the members stage 8 spreadsheet .  It's funny, Betcoin tries to delete things off the internet all the time also. 

When will they learn...you can't delete the internet.  There will always be a record somewhere of everything you publicly say or do.




SPAMCAIGN STAGE 8

Spreadsheet Presented By .::TwitchySeal::.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nTVYuikSG_kiEq8nmfrjt6cpl7cU57k57MriGAO-YTk/edit?usp=sharing
Special Edition Betcoin Usernames Included!

Stage 8: 2016-06-01 00:01 Forum time   -  2016-06-30 23:59 Forum Time

5738  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 04, 2016, 06:43:16 PM

When can we expect payment?
It is over 72 hours after payday (close to 96) and no word?
Is it normal practice to be late with payouts or is this first time?
Updates please.

(...)
Please mind that it's Sunday so it might be not completed tonight but I'm sure it will be done ASAP Smiley.
(...)

Please mind, it's Monday now so quoting yourself from a Sunday, explaining that because its a Sunday players may not get paid is just stupid. ( no disrespect )

Thank you everyone for your involvement.  To clarify it is 24-72 business hours after the end of each round.  This time the end of the round fell on a Thursday and the full staff handling this campaign is not in on the weekends.  We assure you that you will always get your earned bitcoin as a member of the Betcoin.ag Signature Campaign.  Have a great week!

Please note, it's also quite stupid of you to quote Betcoin clarifying the 24-72 hour time frame when it's been 4 days since the campaign ended.   ( thats more hours than 72)

I honestly don't even know how to interpret Betcoins excuse about the campaign ending on Thursday being delayed because betcoin staff is not working weekends.  I mean what the fuck.  Is there some part of the world that "we will pay you in" 24-72 hours means something other than exactly that?  Rossilin did all the leg work, could it possibly take longer than an hour to credit 60 accounts on your own website?  This staff that doesn't work weekends, do they work on Thursdays? Or Fridays? Or Mondays?   Do they know how many hours are in a day.

Edit: Even more confusing is why campaign manager is trying to sell the same bullshit to the members.

5739  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 04, 2016, 06:41:29 AM
I also won 10 times out of 10. 2 times 1000 mBTC, 4 times 500 mBTC, 3 times 100 mBTC and once 50 mBTC!

Proof: http://prntscr.com/bo78c6

SO Legit!



Do you guys even see the image ? lol, i think he sarcasm, by looking his image he never win a single raffle with 10 times try.


The players that haven't won anything are more likely to make more posts about not winning than the players that have.  Then when they don't when a few more in a row, they think it should prove something.  (it doesn't) 
For example, there's around a 90% chance this person will have a streak of 10 losses in a row then post about it  Same chance as anyone to lose one drawing. 
Wow you guys have won multiple times. I haven't won a single time in like 5-6 raffles.
I wonder when I will get atleast 1 prize. Been in like 6 raffles till now.
Well I also have been in like 7 raffles and never won anything so don't really know how that works lol.
Easier for you to say. You won 2 times. I have been in like 8-9 raffles and yet to win. Thats why.
5740  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 04, 2016, 03:44:24 AM
Hello everyone,

Statistics from the Stage 8 are done and ready, but I won't share them to the public - if you want to get a link send me PM (restricted only to our Participants) and I will send you back the link.

Betcoin is obviously not making their stats public because they want me to have as little information as possible to use against them.


.01 BTC to whoever sends me this link first.

  • Send it from alt account if you want to protect your identity
  • First send me pm and say you want to send the link, if I haven't received it yet, I'll let you know and you can send link and address to be paid.
Ty good samaritan, offer no longer available.
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