If you are posting on this thread, please educate yourself about the previous Escrow issue that occurred with Moreia and Redsn0w or stay out. Thank you. As you can see on RedSn0w's trust page here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=211419 He was given negative trust from Quickseller. I personally believe that Redsn0w should either be given no negative trust from the situation or neutral trust. He took responsibility in the end and the deal went well... he ended up ending his escrow service due to the occurrences. I believe Quickseller has no right to give the negative trust to him and he should remove it, if anyone should be the one giving negative trust it should be Moreia, and he is okay with Redsn0w. Please post your replies on whether the negative trust should be removed or what should happen, Quickseller is being ignorant and not listening to my messages so I decided to take matters to here. Thank you. PS: I am doing this as a friend of Redsn0w and because I don't believe he is at the wrong in this matter. RedSn0w did screw up in his escrow services - so he should at least at admit that and take steps so it doesn't happen again. But in the end, all worked out. So I can see both points of view. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Thanks for michaeladair to this thread ( it was not necessary) and thanks to vod for the opinion. At the end I've admitted my "stupid" mistake and with the help of the community all was "recovered" but now I think I don't deserve the negative feedback from quickseller. However thanks again for your attention , the transparence is the better thing.
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An huge dump will start very soon , people are very tired....
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If it is realy only 5 millions that will be fine. Bitstamp have much more value. Yes I think (if they want) - they can buy 19k at the current market price and recover the loss , now we have only to wait another statement.
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If they indeed lost ~ 19,000 BTC, they're seriously fucked. There's no way they have enough own reserves to cover it. And I doubt they have insurance covering such event.
They can buy 19k btc with the fiat value , it is not an impossible thing to do.... (and maybe the price will raise a little).
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Ottimo, che il panico abbia inizio i cinesi stanno reagendo bene, 1700 Però dove hanno preso il msg di bitstamp ? Sul loro sito non c'è ,ne via email e ne su twitter.... almeno citare le fonti.
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No, that still has the old statement. The coindesk article contains a new one from Bitstamps CEO admitting the 19000 BTC are lost. Maybe through email , try to check because I'm not registered on bitstamp.
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If it was an RNG attack - then it could be used on their cold storage as well as on their hot wallet. If the attacker can predict the private keys - then the fact that these keys are stored on something detached from the internet does not make any difference.
I think the same , it was not an attack to their how wallet but a problem with the generation of the various addresses. On their homepage : https://www.bitstamp.net/
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Some people are thinking it was a bug about the RGN of the addresses : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsDNRcNL.png&t=663&c=zG4zNn6tKXkjQw)
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Ma se il demone non gira online, ogni volta che bisogna generare un nuovo indirizzo BTC come fa il sito online a generarlo se il demone è offline?
Non serve assolutamente nessun demone per generare indirizzi. Ah non lo sapevo, in effetti ora che ci penso si possono generare con le api di blochain direttamente no? Teoricamente dovresti se non altro fare questo giro Generazione Indirizzo (Da sito) -> Comando Verso servizio interno protetto -> Generazione effettiva dell'indirizzo con tanto di chiave privata -> Risposta Al sito solo dell'indirizzo Pubblico generato. Gli indirizzi si possono generare offline (100.000 alla volta?) e poi si mettono nel db on line solo gli indirizzi e si tengono le chiavi al sicuro. Si parla di un bug nella generazione degli indirizzi , quindi anche se fossero stati creati offline ne erano sempre affetti. Qui una battuta sul fatto : https://twitter.com/ummjackson/status/551965947838226432
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Ci avevo buttato su 0.028 BTC, e dopo ~99 ore mi hanno pagato 0.056 BTC. Però ciò non toglie che sia solo uno schema ponzi , state attenti ragazzi.
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Twitter blocked by work proxy.. can someone please repost on here? Yes of course : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fe26MY6T.png&t=663&c=rylhjH8EeR0kaQ)
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Is the buyer able to withdraw all 6.5 btc immidiatly? If not then any potential buyer is going to risk a recent payment/purchase will be reversed before coinbase allows for a withdrawal
most probably you will not be able to withdraw it immediately otherwise he would not sell it Yes you are right , I think if it was possibile to withdraw it was better 6,5 BTC instead of 5 BTC. So I think it is only a coinbase hacked account , don't trust him.
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I think a lot of people will not trust anymore bitStamp , so I've voted for "Fall".
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How we can trust you?
It is better to ask : - How we cannot trust you ?
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se: -credibilità compromessa -2anni almeno per ripianare le perdite (i prossimi 2 o i 2 passati, è uguale)
a sto punto spartisco la perdita tra tutti i creditori, chiudo tutto e mi godo quanto guadagnato finora. Questo al netto di eventuali cause e ripercussioni legali da parte dei creditori..che non so se possono esserci e quali sono le tutele.. Domanda stupida..un exchange non è assicurato?
No solo dal lato "fiat" magari , ma per la parte bitcoin .... direi proprio di no.
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... Very interesting address. Specially the very high fees payed for ultra fast confirmations.
It is not true , with 1btc you have the same time/chance to receive confirm (include in a block) as 0.0004 btc . It's a question of lucky ....
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#Thread re-opened.
Thanks sorry this is a late reply. Just wanted to check in with the lender and escrow that everything is going as planned on my end, 3 days left until the loan is due and a possibility it will be repaid on within 48 hours ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've got the address stored for repayment and rednsn0w's email to get my account back. Besides the bump start, i'm glad everything has fallen back into place. Perfect , have a great day and sorry again for the mistake.
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