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581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greatest Gambling Losers on: October 19, 2020, 08:47:05 PM
These people lost huge amounts of money. Most likely, they earned this money very easily and without problems. Something that is easily earned is also easily spent. We can see that some of them (for example, Zhenli Ye Gon) got money by committing crimes, which confirms my words that money was earned very easily.
582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos with free withdrawal fees on: October 19, 2020, 06:34:25 PM
.....I think that in your case, you should also add conditions for withdrawing funds from the site in relation to these casinos. For example, fortunejack.com allows you to withdraw an amount starting from 0.004 Bitcoins. It does not allow you to withdraw smaller amounts even with a Commission.
If that's the minimum amount for withdrawal then that is not considered a condition before the fee would be waived. It should be something like "free for withdrawals above BTC0.004 but withdrawals below that amount will be charged"

This would be a great addition to your review. People would not have to search for information about the minimum amounts to withdraw their coins from the casino.

Also, when carefully reading the Terms and Conditions of sportsbet.io, I found paragraph 9.9:
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9.9. Note that some payment methods may include an additional fee. In this case, the fee will be clearly visible for you in the cashier.
So in some cases there may be commissions for withdrawing funds. I found similar reservations in the terms of many casinos.
I have not seen anyone claim that they paid for withdrawals in Sportsbet. The reservation could only apply to fiat.

I don't play on Sportsbet to try to withdraw my money from there. However, imagine what it would be like for a person if they read in your review that there are no withdrawal fees, but the casino asks them for a fee for withdrawing funds that you have not checked?
In this case, I think it is correct to write that there are no fees when withdrawing in Bitcoin or other coins that you are sure of. For all other withdrawal methods, please refer to paragraph 9.9.
583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 19, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Most of the time they misses out those terms and do believe that they can easily withdraw them after they do make out deposit until they do ask out things and realize that
they are believing the wrong thing. Choices? they have none but to play on whats being asked out and thats the time they do know that they had expected the wrong thing.
Believe it or not, all of us had already experienced when we are still starting up this gambling industry where bonuses do have corresponding terms to be followed before you
can make a withdrawal.This isnt something new thats why i dont really get much interested with bonuses and those newbies will feel the same when they do experienced the same thing.

Due to the fact that beginners do not read the rules of gambling sites, then there are topics with tears. Newcomers create a lot of topics on various forums where they ask if it's fair, because the casino does not allow them to withdraw their money along with the bonus, although they have played several games.
People should develop a habit for themselves: before registering somewhere, and even more so before depositing their money, you should definitely read the terms!
584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling License on: October 18, 2020, 11:37:45 PM
I don't care if a website has license or not because having a license does not mean they will run honestly and they can always ask ID proofs to eat my winnings while a smoothly running casino might not have license but I know they are paying since years to everyone and I don't care as much about their license or anything.

Let's talk more precise: If casino don't have license, this doesn't mean that this is not provably fair. But every casino which has license is for sure provably fair (of course if it is not a license from Barbados or some other offshore).

And another pros is that if something will went bad way, you can always go to court of a country which gave license to that casino and force them to pay for your loses. If casino is illegal, noone will help you with your problems.

And this is where many people get tricked, it will be nice to remember recent history with 1xbet.

Do you really find the strength and money to go to sue a casino in the country that issued the license? For example, the island of Curacao is very far away from you. You will need not only to come to this country but also to hire lawyers. You must be deceived by a significant amount to make sense to go there and spend money on filing a lawsuit.
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling sites accepting bets from countries where gambling is illegal. on: October 15, 2020, 10:59:00 PM
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 Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
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This is a problem for most players. When you check the box that you have read and agree to the ToS, you are performing a legally significant action, which means that you fully and unconditionally agree to the rules and are ready to comply with them. If you are a resident of a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on this site, then you must leave this site yourself. The site should not calculate you by IP and block your access. After all, citizens of other countries may temporarily stay in your country and this will limit their ability to play.
586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 15, 2020, 07:53:51 PM
I never chose a gambling site because of bonuses. Anyway, the bonus system is present everywhere. I am primarily interested in the reliability of the site and its reputation. This is what I advise you to pay attention to.
You also mentioned the need to find out the requirements for withdrawing money from the site. It is right. It is important to study not only the requirements for withdrawal requests, but also other rules of the gambling site before you deposit your money into it.
Which is as it should be, what is the point of depositing your coins in a casino that offers you the best bonuses you have ever seen if you never see your coins back because the casino was a scam, we need to look at the reputation of the casino more than anything and if they happen to offer a good deposit bonus then that is even better but it should never be the main deciding factor when selecting the casino where we will play and I could even argue it should not be a factor at all as many casinos offer bonuses anyway and eventually you are bound to get one that you like.

You understand it, I understand it, and other people who have experience playing in casinos also understand it. However, there are also newcomers who want to try playing in an online casino, they often pay attention primarily to the size of bonuses and other gifts. I doubt that many of the newcomers immediately look for casino reviews on the Internet. In this case, it will be good if at least someone reads the rules regarding the withdrawal of money and bonuses.
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos with free withdrawal fees on: October 15, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Here is what I gathered so far:

FREE for all withdrawals:
- Sportsbet.io
- FortuneJack
- LuckyBit
- BitcoinPenguin
- Wolf.bet

I think that in your case, you should also add conditions for withdrawing funds from the site in relation to these casinos. For example, fortunejack.com allows you to withdraw an amount starting from 0.004 Bitcoins. It does not allow you to withdraw smaller amounts even with a Commission.
Also, when carefully reading the Terms and Conditions of sportsbet.io, I found paragraph 9.9:
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9.9. Note that some payment methods may include an additional fee. In this case, the fee will be clearly visible for you in the cashier.
So in some cases there may be commissions for withdrawing funds. I found similar reservations in the terms of many casinos.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone know a dice game that is actually fair? on: October 15, 2020, 04:18:29 PM
don't quite understand what you are saying but i think most of the dice game have their verifier tools to check if they are fair or there's a guide on how to verify them and maybe you could use other website's tool to check if they are fair.

The best way to check the integrity of a gambling site is to study its history and reputation. You should find out how long this site has been in existence and study all possible reviews about it. First of all, you need to pay attention to negative reviews and how site representatives react to them. If a gambling site has been around for a long time and has few bad reviews, then this is the best test of honesty.
Scammers will not be able to exist for a long time, cheating quickly becomes noticeable.
589  Local / Новички / Re: Раздача мерита нуждающимся/Есть задания l on: October 15, 2020, 02:45:29 PM
Единственная плюшка ранга - это участие в подписных? У каждого могут быть свои цели, зачастую непонятные для других.

А в чем тогда плюшка ранга? Ньюби не берем в расчет, у него пауза между постами 6 минут. В чем разница между постом от джуниора и постом от легенды? Я вот смотрю топик о системе рангов, и кроме как носить подпись покрасивее особой разницы не вижу. Или может кто-то сильно обращает внимание на золотые монетки? Не спорю, аватарка выглядит красиво. Можно ради этого до фулла дойти. Но и то если тебя знают на многих форумах (как пример epidemia и его фентезийная аватарка, которая следует за ним с форума на форум).

Давай прекращать оффтоп. Может в личке пообщаться на эту тему если хочешь  Grin

Это не оффтоп, обсуждение исходит из того, что вы не понимаете почему некоторые люди выполняют задания, зарабатывают мерит и при этом не участвуют в подписных кампаниях.

Плюшки ранга могут быть прежде всего в том, что некоторые люди по разному воспринимают вес постов от человека с 0 мерита и от того у кого его приличное количество. Ранг - это тот же опыт и карьера. Это нормально когда люди хотят расти и совершенствоваться даже просто в плане увеличения цифр и монет под своим ником.
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling License on: October 14, 2020, 09:15:49 PM
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Creating a new casino out of nowhere is very difficult these days after all the competition is fierce since there is a lot of money to be made and as we know success attracts success so people tend to gravitate to the old and established casinos before trying a new one, however there are instances in which a new casino may have an edge over other new casinos, like when a gambler is deciding between gambling in a casino with a license with no reputation and a casino with no reputation and no license as gamblers may feel safer playing on their casino and when given the choice they will select them.

But when compared to the rest of the casinos they are playing with a disadvantage which is why if the new casino is not innovative and does not bring something new to the table most likely it will eventually fail.

Now the competition is great in all areas of business. However, new campaigns continue to appear. There is no problem to create a new casino. All you need is good money. For good money, you will create a great website, conduct an amazing advertising campaign, and install good bonuses that will attract a lot of players from other sites. You can also buy a license for the money. So if you have money, there is no problem to create a new online casino.

Exactly they just view your card and verify which means they are only verifying that who you are and your eligibility to gamble. Online casinos also do the same but we have to provide them the picture which is where the danger starts because now that they have the picture they can use the photo to make illegal accounts, use them for gambling and a lot more which ultimately means you get in trouble.

I know. When you enter a casino, they usually check whether you have reached the age allowed to play and whether you are not blacklisted. And this is not always done.

Online casinos will never reveal information about the ultimate owners of the business. In addition, they or their dishonest employees can sell a scan of my passport on the dark market.
Also people often forget that the employee in the online casino are temporary and while the casino itself might never had cruel intentions but the people whom you submit the identity can always keep a copy of it to themselves and later they can extort you suppose they know you are a big gambler and they can always create problems.

Most often, site owners do not set a purpose to sell someone's documents. However, employees can secretly copy and sell documents on the black market.
591  Local / Новички / Re: Раздача мерита нуждающимся/Есть задания l on: October 14, 2020, 07:18:55 PM
Возможно просто еще никто не успел добрести до вашей темы и прочитать её, вам нужно подождать. Или вы перевели то, что не пользуется интересом, как вам уже писали ранее.

Это он имеет ввиду, видимо, то, что таикури тут сказал, что даст мерит, если кто-то переведет мою тему, которую я сначала запостил на английском. Хорошо, что я успел вовремя зайти. Смешно было бы,если бы кто-то опубликовал тему, которую я создавал, на русском. И потом что, мою удалят как дубль? Grin Супер, ох уж этот таикури, чуть в блудню честного пользователя не ввел. Cheesy


Вообще правилом хорошего тона считается спрашивать разрешения у авторов на перевод. Особенно если это уникальный авторский труд, а не какой-либо анонс проекта/баунти кампания, где перевод идет прежде всего на пользу проекту и там само собой разумеется что переводы приветствуются.
А вам была бы наука нефиг в первую очередь в английском разделе темы публиковать))
592  Local / Новички / Re: Раздача мерита нуждающимся/Есть задания l on: October 14, 2020, 07:08:58 PM
В таком случае можно самому искать новости, интересное и тд, и делать переводы. А не выполнять исключительно задания из данного топика. Я согласен, что каждый пользуется аккаунтом на свое усмотрение. Только в данном случае я вижу как человек целенаправленно получает мериты для роста ранга, а всеми плюшками высоких рангов не пользуется  Grin

Я не критикую, не выражаю какой-то негатив или что-то отрицательное. Мне просто интересно почему человек не пользуется возможность заработать бабосики. 

Единственная плюшка ранга - это участие в подписных? У каждого могут быть свои цели, зачастую непонятные для других.

Вот вот я тоже переводил, время тратил, так и сижу теперь без мерита, абидна. Smiley

Возможно просто еще никто не успел добрести до вашей темы и прочитать её, вам нужно подождать. Или вы перевели то, что не пользуется интересом, как вам уже писали ранее.
593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 14, 2020, 05:47:00 PM
Some people do really have wrong perception towards these bonuses where they do believe that they are on advantage against the house and if they do think up clearly its no doubt that these are just lure
for people to get excited and do believe that they do make some easy money with these bonuses until they get shocked when they do need to make up some wager requirement before they can able
to make a withdrawal.Its true that instead of earning then you might really be ending up on losing even more due to that reason.This is why im not really that much interested
when it comes to bonuses.Answering on topic about sportsbook bonuses then some of them do give out deposit or welcome bonus which is just a normal in most cases.


I doubt that anyone believes that bonuses give advantages over the house. Most people are only wrong about one thing. They think that after receiving the bonus and making one or two bets, they will be able to withdraw both their money and the bonus received from the site. However, this is not the case. Before you expect this, people need to carefully study the rules and read all the reservations about withdrawing their own and bonus funds.
594  Local / Новички / Re: Раздача мерита нуждающимся/Есть задания l on: October 14, 2020, 05:06:28 PM
Ахаха, кто бы сомневался. Grin Grin Grin Вот это хитрая конечно система.

Весь пост занимает 378 знаков без пробелов  Grin А с ними 413. Не придраться. Какие условия задания, таков и результат. Это наверно самые простые 4 мерита, что я видел.

Зачем сафару мерит и повышение ранга, если он подпись не носит? "отбирает хлеб у новичков", которым мерит похоже и так не нужен.

А что мерит нужно ставить только тем, кто носит или собирается носить подпись? По-моему вы неверно понимаете для чего была введена система заслуг на форуме. Мерит ставится прежде всего за полезные по мнению дарителя посты, только и всего. А как дальше будет использовать свой аккаунт одариваемый, это уже его дело.
595  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do they use our computers for CPU mining? on: October 14, 2020, 04:50:00 PM
If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.

Making browser mining scripts is not something that is difficult to do, especially for professionals who really understand those things. When a site has a browser mining script then they can steal/hijack user computers and use their resources (processing power) to mine some crypto and this script runs in the background.

As you said, for gambling sites that are not well known it is possible to do this action, but for gambling sites that already have a name, of course they will think a lot before doing that.

You're exaggerating a little. Scripts that are installed on the site only work in the browser environment. As soon as you close the site where the scripts or browser are running, they will immediately stop working. This is done specifically to prevent viruses from being installed on your computer in this way.
In order for the virus to enter your computer, you need to download the executable file of the virus voluntarily or by deception.
596  Other / Archival / Re: [ЛИСТ] Крипто Дебетовые Карты on: October 13, 2020, 11:56:11 PM
В России не настолько все жестко. Комиссии платит отправитель Smiley Я не слышал чтобы с физ. лица банки брали комиссию за поступление средств.

Это звучит действительно жестоко. У нас некоторые банки, чаще всего государственные, берут комиссию с физ. лиц за поступление денег на их счет от юридических лиц. У меня была история, когда я через интернет банкинг перекинул другу денег на карту и от суммы списали 1,5% комиссии только потому, что я это сделал через интернет банкинг, если бы туже операцию совершил через отделение банка, то комиссию не взяли бы. Я до сих пор не понимаю отсутствие у них логики. Наоборот банки должны стимулировать совершение платежей онлайн чтобы разгрузить свои отделения. С тех пор услугами того банка больше не пользуемся.

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Я видел как вы писали про товарища в ЕС и его адрес, и отсюда я делаю вывод, что такой карты вы не имеете. Есть много способов как получить ту или иную карту, но лично я не берусь рисковать в этом плане.

Конечно вы знаете, что фотки с картой в руках я не пришлю Smiley Но готов поспорить, интересно, какой цифрой вы сможете ответить.

Вы из любой ситуации найдете способ как извернуться в ответе, поэтому я не вижу смысла спорить.
Если у вас уже есть подобная карта, то с чего вас стала так сильно интересовать подобная тема?

Причем даже в юридических правилах, которые вы приводили примером - нет запрета на получение по гражданству или резидентству.

Директива 2003/109/ЕС говорит, что резидентом ЕС можно стать прожив законно на территории ЕС в течение 5 лет.
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 13, 2020, 11:35:41 PM
This is logical. No one will give you a bonus so that you immediately withdraw it to your wallet. All sites have restrictions on the withdrawal of bonus money. Sometimes you need to place a certain number of bets or play several games. Personally, I am convinced that the conditions for withdrawing a bonus often force you to spend more than you will get in the end.
That is why it is better not to chase sites with large bonuses, but to look for a site with a good long-term reputation.

That's how bonuses work. There's no free money in gambling.
But you can find bookies with low wagering requirements but make sure they have no existing scam allegations.
Higher bonuses come with more conditions to fulfil. So don't get too excited about those bonuses.
I also look at their withdrawal requirements before playing, so as not to get surprises when the withdrawal time comes.

I never chose a gambling site because of bonuses. Anyway, the bonus system is present everywhere. I am primarily interested in the reliability of the site and its reputation. This is what I advise you to pay attention to.
You also mentioned the need to find out the requirements for withdrawing money from the site. It is right. It is important to study not only the requirements for withdrawal requests, but also other rules of the gambling site before you deposit your money into it.
598  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Do they use our computers for CPU mining? on: October 13, 2020, 10:12:47 PM
I do not think that the gembling sites use hidden miners on the computers of their visitors. They are more important to attract the player with beautiful graphics and animation, which will be problematic when the computer processor or GPU involved in the mining.

If desired, you can easily disguise other processes under graphics and animation. Especially if you hire good programmers who optimize the site code, which will allow the site not to take up a lot of computer power. However, such actions on the part of the casino would be illogical. They earn a lot of money from gambling and value their reputation. If someone noticed their deception, it would bury the reputation of the online casino and it would lose its main source of income.
599  Other / Archival / Re: [ЛИСТ] Крипто Дебетовые Карты on: October 13, 2020, 07:27:31 PM
Читал, так как пользуюсь этой картой. И отвечая на следующий вопрос - нет, я не резидент ЕС, возможно у меня нет даже ВНЖ (которое также не дает резидентства). Как я и говорил ранее, FontSeli, закон имеет множество трактовок, например в той же юридической информации я не видел, что эта карта будет запрещена в другой стране Smiley

Это к тому, что закон можно применять не настолько прямо, по типу башни. И чаще всего, он специально написан так, чтобы в нем было побольше трактовок, чем одна.

ps: Доступна - совсем не означает разрешена или запрещена Wink

Я видел как вы писали про товарища в ЕС и его адрес, и отсюда я делаю вывод, что такой карты вы не имеете. Есть много способов как получить ту или иную карту, но лично я не берусь рисковать в этом плане. У меня свежи еще в памяти стоны и мольбы тех людей, которые весной 2019 года регистрировались на Бинансе по чужим документам для участия в ИЕО, а потом после блока просили вернуть хотя бы внесенные деньги. Я не хочу оказаться в подобном унизительном положении, поэтому и не ищу обходных путей. Подобные карты меня интересуют прежде всего как надежный и долговременный инструмент.

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Я всегда считал, что крипто карты и подобные им инструменты служат прежде всего для вывода крипты в фиат или для совершения платежей криптой как обычным фиатом. Для увеличения своего крипто депо картсчет в иностранном банке не сильно полезен, т.к. нужно либо ехать за границу с деньгами либо совершать транзакции со счетов в банках по месту вашего нахождения.

Раньше я думал так же как и вы, но сейчас, когда законодательство меняется в сторону ужесточения, а способов для денежных переводов и организации бизнеса становится побольше. Поэтому, если раньше можно было взять карту платежной системы (которая сейчас не особо работает), подойти к банкомату (который сейчас не всегда может выдать больше 200 долларов) и спокойно снять нал, то сейчас стало посложнее, но и результаты не только в пачке купюр, но и в легализации.

А для депо все в порядке, потому что увеличивается оно в BTC, и для этого мой личный картсчет совсем не нужен.

Вы же про карты написали, что они вас интересуют как инструмент увеличения депо в Биткоинах. Так как вы через зарубежные карты будете увеличивать свое депо, если для покупки тех же Биткоинов нужно в начале пополнить карту фиатом?

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Либо вы платите налоги либо нет, третьего не дано. У меня такая цветовая палитра, упрощенная.

Оптимизация в рамках законодательного поля вполне рабочий вариант. Если у вас международный бизнес, вы можете вы брать для себя любую удобную юрисдикцию. А если вы не находитесь в РФ более 183 дней (пример), то вы перестаете быть налоговым резидентом этой прекрасной страны. Кроме этого, налогооблагаемую сумму можно подавать по декларации, если ваш бизнес небольшой (в некоторых странах). И все это будет в рамках закона Smiley Надеюсь, что я немного разбавил вашу палитру Smiley Так как в любом случае вы платите налоги.

Международные бизнесмены не сидят на БТТ в подписных. Я больше понесу сопутствующих расходов на различные хитрости и специалистов, чем подлежащие к уплате налоги.
600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin sportsbook bonuses on: October 13, 2020, 06:28:10 PM
I don't have many references regarding sportsbooks offering bonuses, but maybe you would be willing to use coinbet24.com, they offer a first deposit bonus and maybe you are interested in the bonus offered. I personally am just an ordinary gambler and am not really pursuing a bonus offer for now, I think if you are chasing a bonus at least that sportsbook will be fine for you. Good luck!

Most of the sportsbooks actually have first deposit bonus. But they vary on the wagering requirements before you can withdraw your winnings. So that is one important factor to look at, the conditions accompanied by the bonus. On my end, better bet on known sportsbooks here. At least you know, they will respect whatever conditions they have set.

This is logical. No one will give you a bonus so that you immediately withdraw it to your wallet. All sites have restrictions on the withdrawal of bonus money. Sometimes you need to place a certain number of bets or play several games. Personally, I am convinced that the conditions for withdrawing a bonus often force you to spend more than you will get in the end.
That is why it is better not to chase sites with large bonuses, but to look for a site with a good long-term reputation.
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