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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 04:28:41 PM
IC, do you still believe your 100 USD in one year prediction?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg6280917#msg6280917

Quote from: IconicExpert
If the fundamentals remain the same without change, and we continue to grow at our current rate, we will be trading higher than $100 within 12 months. Past results do not predict future results. However, in BlackCoin's case proof of stake gives a constant we can use to make reasonable predictions.

If the fundamentals remain the same without change <--- Do you think the fundamentals are the same now as when I posted that?
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 03:04:17 PM


Another BlackCoin card spotted in the wild...
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 02:25:21 PM

Thank you for posting the pic, I sincerely appreciate it. Quite a few people have received their cards but they are not posting pics.

Can you just take a few minutes and post some feedback on the packaging and card quality? That will be helpful to others.
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 02:24:01 PM

Thank you for posting the pic, I sincerely appreciate it. Quite a few people have received their cards but they are not posting pics.

Can you just take a few minutes and post some feedback on the packaging and card quality? That will be helpful to others.
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
To the best of my knowledge and as I understand it dognip does NOT have any relationship with any employee of MBA.

Get away with what exactly? Seriously... get your mind out of the gutter and learn some respect. Why anyone would want to answer you the way yo behave is beyond me..... however.....
Certain redactions are MY private details that people such as you I do not want to have. So, shelve ya conspiracy theories and sort yourself out.
As for other parts, what in gods name make YOU think YOU have the right to see every element of a business deal? You need to go learn how the real world works.
As and when the information is required either by law or by convention to be disclosed, it will be. Outside of that you will be allowed to see what is appropriate for that time. Not more, not less. As such, at this time, YOU are not allowed to see elements I have requested private and other parties for operational reasons. We have nothing to "hide" but we do not have to disclose all of our plans with you because you shout loud. Impact and presence are created by hard work and labour in the background sometimes and this is one of those times. If the current level of details enclosed so far does not meet your expectations then I suggest you learn how to manage thiose expectations better for your own sake.

Many people need to understand that they do not get an automatic right to see what is going on at every single minute stage of this process.

This was posted in the other thread. Let me translate for everyone: "STFU and stop asking us questions. Just because you and everyone else paid for the PR firm doesn't give you the right to questions us. We do not have to disclose anything to you. However, from time to time we will give you just enough information to keep your simple minds happy and content. Now bend over while we f..k you, and you better not think about resisting or we will  force you into submission ".
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 11:03:34 AM
You know the same thing that many of us gave to IE without requiring a copy of the invoice from the PRWeb transactions, or for the numerous aspects of the WS event which obviously will be announced as "not gonna happen" in two days. Wink

You do realize you can see the price of the package I purchased right on the PR website? I also provide the name of the writer. I was very transparent in my handling of the press releases.
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 10:46:47 AM
Hey IE.

When u gonna ship out the blackcoincard?

BlackCoin cards are shipping out and people are receiving them.
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 10:45:57 AM
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barabbas,why you are so obsessed about peoples money ?

Xblade, when you are caught, repeatedly, with your pats down -a very common occurrence in your case, I must add- someone that is obviously not the sharpest knife in the kitchen, would try to save face a bit by not appearing completely stupid but by admitting that, well, that one time, he was wrong.
Of course, as it is always the case, you prefer to just make a total ass of yourself...

To each his own.

I asked question and you started judge me...
But you haven't given answer so far.I am waiting.
Once again: "barabbas,why you are so care about unknown people's money ?"

You are asking the wrong question. Why is Seopkip getting paid over 40,000 in BC by a person that was involved in a P&D of BC. Everyone can view it for themselves. This is not speculation or a conspiracy theory, this is fact. Someone involved in a P&D paid the Community Manager of BC over 40,000 BC just before the price started to increase.
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 09:35:15 AM
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So why is a person that is dumping BC during a pump and sending Seopkip 42,160 BC?...

Also, why did they attempt to hide the transactions? They could have just sent the funds to Seopkip directly, why mask it?[/b][/color]
ONE BC Whale wrote that he made agreement with Soepkip that he will send him 10k per price up by certain lvls...
9k - 90k was huge  pump so he payed him a lot simple.

He paid him BEFORE the pump. The "whale' dumped everything during the first pump. This "Whale" knew BC was being pumped and unloaded everything, and then bought back some later. Why? Most of us held on to most of our BC because we felt BC was going to the moon, however this "Whale" knew this wasn't the case so he dumped everything. Ok so he was smarter than the rest of us. But he gave Seopkip money, why? What did Seopkip do for this "Whale"?  It was admitted the group was responsible for helping to pump BC the first time, but they claimed they were burned on that pump. However, someone with inside knowledge and close to Seopkip knew enough to dump everything.
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
@IE

Can we all see your wallet,please.

Thank you

Smiley

Of course not...I do not want people to see I only have 100000BC...
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
WOW...now watch the fanboys come up with an excuse for this one.

On April 6th Soepkip received 15,000 BC from this address: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/tx/26745593b3d97c5cb6403021698efb170dbafffef798aa1b19ecc21d0ce96015#o1 <---First Address
That address only has a couple of transactions, no big deal right?

However, when you look at the address that sent the funds to the first address I listed you will find whomever has that account has over 1 million BC: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/BBGgMaAs1yitHS5A7fpknr9pEce8MPa2nr  <--- Second Address

So what right?


On April 6th Soepkip received 27,160 BC from this address: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/tx/ce871a92b94a7a9dcbd8b2d987098885b9229e7e5b9e7fe1bb2a940e0c22399e#o1 <---Third Address
That address only has a couple of transactions again, still no big deal right?


However, when you look at the address that sent the funds it is the same address as that second address: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/BBGgMaAs1yitHS5A7fpknr9pEce8MPa2nr <---Same as Second Address

There was over 1 million BC in this account. However, on April 11th whoever owns this account started dumping BC. So what? April 11th was start of the pump for the first major spike of BC.

So why is a person that is dumping BC during a pump also sending Seopkip 42,160 BC?...

Also, why did they attempt to hide the transactions? They could have just sent the funds to Seopkip directly, why mask it?
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Wear Shorts To Meetings | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 08:38:28 AM
One more thing I forgot to add in my previous post. Seopkip said he cashes out BC every now and then to "live" since he is not employed and his main source of income is BC. This is a fact provided by Seopkip himself.

Ok so here is Seopkip private address: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/B96Ma83Sbxq5HR6UsPtbGapi9s5ZRHjwNo

He hasn't touched his BC in quite sometime. However, he said his trip to Miami was due to the community. What funds did he use since his personal funds were not touched?
Does Seopkip have another address with more funds in it? And if so why share the public address but not disclose having another address?

Maarx posted this early and no one paid much attention:


Hi everyone, thought I should update. Received these documents (contract and invoice) by dognip (morituri13) an hour ago and removed some personal and professional details.

In short:

    Total required: $ 32,500
    Total paid so far: $ 15,250 and $ 1,000 (BLK equivalent)
    Due on June 1st: $ 8,125
    Due on July 1st: $ 8,125

All files are up for review at: http://maarx.nl/maarx.nl/blackcoin/mba/


So they haven't complete paid the PR firm. Really? I have some questions:

1. So where is the $16,250?
2. Who is controlling/holding those funds?
3. What funds were use to pay for Seopkip's trip to Miami?
4. If Seopkip and/or the members of the Foundation decides to leave BC before June 1st what happens to the funds?
5. Why wasn't it disclosed that the money will be paid in installments?
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 14, 2014, 08:34:54 AM
On the PR we only agree on the surface, because it is an exercise in absurdity for the points you comment and some others, but you don't want to scratch the surface. And I have. And right there, jumping at you in the photo, we have, next to the stoned guy, a pretty active member of this community, "Dognip" and "Morituri 13" both rolled into one who not only happens to work for the PR Company but slipped, publicly, in the original forum, the admission that he was part of The Black Hand (although he called it, discreetly, "a group of investors with no formal contracts, just a few papers signed").

Wait a minute. Does Morituri actually work for the PR firm? Are you sure? Can someone please confirm this? If this is true this is a major conflict of interest on so many levels. Not only is it a conflict of interest, they also lied because they said they "searched" and "interviewed" other companies, but settle on MBA. Now how convenient is it that the agency that was selected to represent BC happens to be the employer of one of the members of the "investment group"...

LMAO I can't make this sh!t up!


That is my understanding of the post from Maarten. If I misunderstood, I will be the first to correct the misunderstanding...

But, I edit, even if I misunderstood, what would be the business of a self proclaimed member of The Black Hand in such a meeting?

Hi, the PR firm guy is "dognip" or "morituri13" (our community member).. I thought he was from MBA too at first.. Tongue

It seems that Maarx was stating that he also assumed the guy was the from the PR firm but he was really morituri13. I do not think morituri13 works there. However, you raise an interesting point. Why was he there?
594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 14, 2014, 08:20:33 AM
On the PR we only agree on the surface, because it is an exercise in absurdity for the points you comment and some others, but you don't want to scratch the surface. And I have. And right there, jumping at you in the photo, we have, next to the stoned guy, a pretty active member of this community, "Dognip" and "Morituri 13" both rolled into one who not only happens to work for the PR Company but slipped, publicly, in the original forum, the admission that he was part of The Black Hand (although he called it, discreetly, "a group of investors with no formal contracts, just a few papers signed").

Wait a minute. Does Morituri actually work for the PR firm? Are you sure? Can someone please confirm this? If this is true this is a major conflict of interest on so many levels. Not only is it a conflict of interest, they also lied because they said they "searched" and "interviewed" other companies, but settle on MBA. Now how convenient is it that the agency that was selected to represent BC happens to be the employer of one of the members of the "investment group"...

LMAO I can't make this sh!t up!
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Incompetent Dev | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Your Thread Title! Come on now. That's just not fair to people still holding BC.

Is Soepkip incompetent?
Is the community split?

I changed the title to reflect the truth...
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Incompetent Dev | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 07:46:07 AM
I've been working on a Blackcoin promotional video. I hired some people in my city to complete my lacking skills in 3D and music. I'm sure you guys will love it.
I already have a pile of work and days are passing fast, so it's taking a bit of time. I can't wait.

I think Blackcoin currently have all the qualities to survive this saturated market and reach real success in a year or two. Just don't wait for it, make it happen.

Please let IE do his work no matter his character. Like it or not he is still capable and experienced.
For the success of us all.

Objective : the black moon.
Although i thought differently a couple of weeks ago, we have definitely reached the point where IE leaving the scene forever would mean a big relief. For the last two weeks he hasn't done anything but talking about his massive influence, telling us that there is panic selling (he never saw some before as it seems) + telling people that he will tell them on day X if the can get a refund.
And since about half of the posts in "his thread" are his own, he started spamming this one too.

IE's only work at the moment is to call the coin a scam. Obviously he cannot mean the technology which is sound, but a group of people who conspire to push the price artificially low, so that we can buy in artificially cheap (like in Gold / Silver, the metals are not scams either, but surpressed). (no sense at all... they might be cashing out if they have large positions, but that is totally ok...)

My impression is that he has almost no coins and wants to buy in cheap. That is why he is so active... he says that he has millions of coins and that he is getting out.... which makes no sense, as he depresses the price with such comments even further, hurting his own investments.... if he wanted to get out for a good price he would be pumping it or at least keep his mouth shut, but not be trying to kill it...

Some idiots might fall for it and panic sell... I really hate the fact that I donated and believed him...  Angry

This was posted from the other forum and I wanted to address it here. Not everyone is motivated by money or greed. I do not care about my "investment" because like I said I bought the bulk of my coins when BC was under 1000 sat. some people already figured out I was telling the truth about how many BC I own by doing some basic detective work. However, other people will believe I have thousands of coins, or none. I know the truth and that is all that is relevant. No one will ever know what my motives are except me. So stop focusing on me because it is getting old. Start focusing on the real issue, and that is the dev team and the foundation.
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 14, 2014, 07:34:42 AM
BTC was down. Cinni. DRK. Your drama with the dev. And you said you're selling. But I believe the next run up will suck the other PoS coins dry. If the PR campaign is half as good as your PR web I expect BC to rise.

Ok fair enough. It is going to take weeks if not months before the effects of the PR firm are noticed. The belief that CoinKite is going to make a difference is just not based on reality. BC is going to drop below 20,000 sat and maybe go as low as 15,000 sat before the price increases again, if it increases again.

Believe it or not that PIC of Soepkip was the nail in the coffin for BC. I got a lot of PMs from people perplexed by that. They hired a high profile PR firm to represent a coin they are trying to portray as luxurious, and he goes to the first meeting in beach shorts. Some think it is funny but it isn't. This man is now the face of BC and he made the community look like a joke. Why would ANY future service or company take BC serious when the front man looks like a clown?

Don't forget it only took you a post here about your PR campaign to raise the price. The same could possibly happen again. Then if that little burst gains enough momentum, it could easily rocket back up to 50K sats.

I still believe in BC fundamentally and think a lot of others do too. 1% + 8 hour coin maturity is way better then all those other alt clones. What PoS coin will everyone trade with? BC of course because trading with other PoS coins will screw up their maturity time.  Grin


See you are making the mistake most did. If you look at my previous posts when I did my announcements, I always asserted I had "bloggers" going out and "spamming" the news. I did more than just announce or sent out press releases. That is why when the dev/foundation made their announcements nothing happened. It takes more than an announcement to create buzz. And for the record the current price of BC has nothing to do with BC cards or the donations. The dev team doesn't know how to promote it, it is that simple. I read on the other thread Subtuppel will be glad to see me go, and that is the sentiment of some. But the smart investors all know that the day I stopped promoting BC and the community was split was the day BC chances were over and I stand by that.

PS: People need to realize these cards are being shipped First Class Mail. Many people who ordered cards live in countries where First Class Mail takes forever to be delivered. They also need to realize the mail has to pass customers first. I do not control the mail and can't make it go any faster.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 14, 2014, 07:15:56 AM
BTC was down. Cinni. DRK. Your drama with the dev. And you said you're selling. But I believe the next run up will suck the other PoS coins dry. If the PR campaign is half as good as your PR web I expect BC to rise.

Ok fair enough. It is going to take weeks if not months before the effects of the PR firm are noticed. The belief that CoinKite is going to make a difference is just not based on reality. BC is going to drop below 20,000 sat and maybe go as low as 15,000 sat before the price increases again, if it increases again.

Believe it or not that PIC of Soepkip was the nail in the coffin for BC. I got a lot of PMs from people perplexed by that. They hired a high profile PR firm to represent a coin they are trying to portray as luxurious, and he goes to the first meeting in beach shorts. Some think it is funny but it isn't. This man is now the face of BC and he made the community look like a joke. Why would ANY future service or company take BC serious when the front man looks like a clown?
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | Incompetent Dev | Split Community on: May 14, 2014, 07:02:34 AM
IE - Do you have a mailing list or website? I'd like to hear your future crypto plans and support them. Doesn't mean I've sold any BC but you do have a great deal of influence.

I do not have a mailing list or website dedicated to crypto yet. All my websites are related to my products.
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 14, 2014, 06:57:50 AM

History Lesson


...

http://www.blackcoin.co/general/coinkite-adds-blackcoin/

I can't agree with you with all statements.
This is my version.

Actually you are incorrect. The price was going up before the CoinKite announcement. Actually the day I announced the Blackout event the price shot up 3000 sat in less than 30 minutes. CoinKite had NO affect on this price because 99% of the people had no clue what CoinKite was.

So lets assume you are correct and I am wrong. Why after tons of amazing news in the past several days BC is slowly dropping?
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