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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 06:54:46 PM
LOL, that's not how it works man. The guys fully agreed to sign a NDA before exchanges consider to add Iconomi or discuss any details.

Why would you agree to sign  NDA ? Do you think Polo has promised something to the Dev's ? WHY do that if you are transparent. I know what an NDA is ... usually is to protect sensitive information ... Investors do not care about any sensitive information. They just care about

"
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges.
The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.
"

The 2 phrases are in direct contradiction. NDAs require from you ? Than you are a party involved in the decision to list the token ... If the decision would be entirely of the exchange ... why the need of an NDA ?



Maybe because polo or bittrex do not want the devs discussing when it will be listed because that is essentially insider information? Polo never announces its listing until it actually lists a coin...

Why polo/bittrex do that is a different story... it is kind of shady on the exchanges end, because it would make it easy for them to profit from the insider information.
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 06:43:28 PM
There's another one about future exchanges...




So what I understand is that the dev's would've wanted to list ICN on any exchange, because they promised the investor ICN will be listed on big exchanges and that is why they raised that much money among other reasons, so they got in touch with the exchanges, but those bitches from the exchanges just throw in their face an NDA to make them shut the f**uk up ... right? Probably the dev's even got threaded that the ICN will never be listed on those exchanges if they do not obey and sign the NDAs. This is the way to judge this ? ... or we should not even try to use our heads ... we just have to be true believers right ?

In reality its much simpler. IF they did not made an agreement with some of the exchanges to manipulate the price they could've just come and say to us something like this ... "Hey guys we submitted the request to be listed there and there, those exchanges came with shady things so we told them to go fuck them self, its not in our reach any more to listed there, and yes we already payed the lauzy 3 BTC to have it on Bitrex, because we respect our investors, sorry for not being able to do more, but we try to stay transparent and not get involved in shady schema with the evil Polo guys".
I presume now its too late, so personally I am not planing long term here, as for me its a red flag when simple things that are related to transparency are transformed in complicated NDA taped things.
I hope when it gets to Polo there will be enough stupid people to pump this up to 5 USD / ICN ... sell it all, rebuy at 1 USD or less .. and so on.

Cool story. Now put your money where your mouth is and sell  Kiss
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 06:42:40 AM
any news on exchanges other than kraken?

I hear rumors that Mt. Gox is opening back up tomorrow to offer ICN.

where did u hear it? from the voices in your head? good news for u😀

Loll😁 icn will be on cryptsy😁

Mintpal  Cheesy
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 10:28:08 PM


Don't be greedy, just sell and move on.

Have you ever made money off an ICO? I see you in all these ICO threads and based on your posts and the timing of your posting it seems like you always get impatient and sell low before the coin even has a chance to go up.
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 08:08:19 PM
You people complaining about how the devs aren't pushing this coin onto bigger exchanges are blind to how good of a sign this could be.

Let's think about this, what incentive do devs usually have to get listed on a high volume exchange as quickly as possible?
I think the fact that they are not concerned about the success of speculators in the short term is telling of what they expect in the future. It indicates to me that they are more concerned about their long term investors and the long term goals of the project than they are of impatient ICO pump and dump traders.


I have my ico tokens with me.. that doesn't mean I don't have right to trade it.  so listing in accessible exchange is as good for investors as it is for traders. talking about incentives, no one is asking devs to pump the price. its gonna rise if devs add value to project.  point is I can not buy/sell ICN as it sucks.  if devs can give 50 btc for translation to someone then I don't understand what reason they have for not getting it listed on single good exchange

Kraken is an excellent exchange. And there is liqui too, which I've never used myself. You can buy and sell ICN if you want to. I already bought some more off of Kraken.
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 08:06:49 PM
You people complaining about how the devs aren't pushing this coin onto bigger exchanges are blind to how good of a sign this could be.

Let's think about this, what incentive do devs usually have to get listed on a high volume exchange as quickly as possible?
I think the fact that they are not concerned about the success of speculators in the short term is telling of what they expect in the future. It indicates to me that they are more concerned about their long term investors and the long term goals of the project than they are of impatient ICO pump and dump traders.



I'm a big believer in ICONOMI, but to be fair, lot of people invested because Devs promised ICN will be traded on the biggest exchanges.

If Devs said they don't intend to list on Polo & Rex after distribution, then I don't think they would have raised more than $2-3m.

So for now... it does feel like a Bait and Switch.

Devs should do right by their investors and list on Polo & Rex and let them trade as they please, and if the ICONOMI products are really great, we won't see any dumping.
"Devs promised ICN will be traded on the biggest exchanges."
Oh, I must have missed that. Where did they promise that?
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 10, 2016, 07:32:49 PM
You people complaining about how the devs aren't pushing this coin onto bigger exchanges are blind to how good of a sign this could be.

Let's think about this, what incentive do devs usually have to get listed on a high volume exchange as quickly as possible?
I think the fact that they are not concerned about the success of speculators in the short term is telling of what they expect in the future. It indicates to me that they are more concerned about their long term investors and the long term goals of the project than they are of impatient ICO pump and dump traders.

588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 08, 2016, 05:10:28 PM
Hi guys
how to deposit ICN to kraken?

You don't need Kraken, all you need is Liqui. Smiley


All working good, no verification required. From day to day more and more traders trade ICN here.

We clearly understand that we very young and cant provide such liquidity like polo/bittrex, we can't provide such fun like polo can Roll Eyes. But if you want to sell or buy securely some ICN - we have no issues. Just try it.

Liqui you are very unprofessional PR I ever seen. Mentioned other company in negative way for your company not good PR.

Where in that comment does he mention other companies in a negative way?
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: ARK Signature Bounty Thread on: November 08, 2016, 05:06:05 PM
Just checking in! My sig and avatar are still displayed!
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: ARK Signature Bounty Thread on: November 03, 2016, 05:57:59 PM
Hi all, I applied for the ARK sig/avatar on 2016/11/01.

Thanks!
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 02, 2016, 03:40:02 AM


If only they advertised it that way, with one simple image. we'd be at 100k by now. They need to get better advertisers if a forum user can do better than them.

We need more time. Until people realize the real potential im ICONOMI, we can keep buying more cheap ICN

Yeah, and I don't think it makes much sense for them to spend time/money on advertising the future ICN features until they have the features ready- or at least know when they will be ready- for release. It is evident in the ~10 million USD crowdsale that they did a good enough job selling just the idea itself. Now they need to focus on finishing the product before they begin worrying about advertising again.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔹🅰RK🔹 [ANN][ARK] A Platform for Consumer Adoption [Token Exchange 7 Nov 2016] on: October 26, 2016, 02:06:53 AM
I've decided to join the signature campaign as well. Is there anything I need to do besides adding the sig and commenting here? Thanks.
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: July 26, 2016, 05:46:36 AM
Stay patient, friends.
594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: RISE - SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED - 300,000 RISE FOR PARTICIPENTS on: June 01, 2016, 06:51:08 AM
The list doesnt seem to have any names on it. How do we know if we were counted?
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: RISE - SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED - 300,000 RISE FOR PARTICIPENTS on: May 31, 2016, 07:27:14 AM
I registered as a hero member and updated my sig. Anything else I need to do to enter the campaign?  Looking forward to the release!
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: May 26, 2016, 12:41:31 AM
My account says : "Account has no LISK: " when i try to send, there is no fees amount showing up...

Send at least 0.1 less than you have, or else you wont have enough to pay the fee and it will give you that message,
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: May 26, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
Were the directions on who to contact about receiving sig-campaign rewards removed from the original post, I can't seem to find them after launch. Who do I need to message to claim my stake?

go to http://lisk.chat

and pm Joel

Thank you!

Do you happen to know where the list went with how much we are supposed to receive?
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers on: May 26, 2016, 12:27:26 AM
Were the directions on who to contact about receiving sig-campaign rewards removed from the original post, I can't seem to find them after launch. Who do I need to message to claim my stake?
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 26, 2016, 12:34:12 AM
for such a big project with such high investments i dont think theres quite a lot of info about where this coin is going, id like to invest but  its looks like a lot of hype.
I agree that must be brought a defined and consistent working plan for the customers. I think that's one of the things that is making more noise in this thread.

Yeah, this keeps being brought up and I haven't seen an official response from the team yet. Could we get one, please? Or did I miss it? It's kind of ridiculous and does not reflect well on the team if you guys won't respond to this fundamental and very critical question. So, devs, please chime in or point us to where you have answered this previously.
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: March 24, 2016, 05:48:39 AM
I think BTER will make it easier for everyone and honor the holders of XCR their LISK.


but what do you mean, BTER didnt hold the ICO, LISK did, and BTER used UNAUTHARIZED customer funds to invest in LISK. this is not legal. Now, if BTER did somthing like GATECOIN did with REP, it would be differant. but where is the proof tha BTER didnt just "borrow" or essentially steal there customers deposits to invest in this ICO.
clarification is needed, for all of us in the community.

Yes, but they've done stuff like that in the past and it was actually better for the customers. I'm not defending them, just saying it might actually be better.

For example when PTS converted to BitShares - PTS holders could trade BTSX, before it was even live!!! That is a huge advantage!


Yes, a huge and completely unfair advantaged to everybody else who has to wait to trade.
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