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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] Disney Coin [IDISNEY] on: September 29, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
With each of these that NILIcoin makes... The alt-crypto-scene dies a little inside. Can a mod banhammer this guy for all these fake PRE-ANN's please?
This is as real as crypto can get. the coins are issued on counterwallet and it is a legitimate coin just like any other here. maybe a bit more conceptual and complex to understand.
The aim of this coins which are made in a very limited addition is to represent the real crypto coins these industry should make. I have explained it in details on the other threads.  Doing it is the best explanation. So that is what Im doing. Im sure that it will eventually help revive wonderful important and chaotic scene of altcoins
There is a lot of work involved in each of the coins I choose to make, and they will come out with a few weeks between them, but I will PRE- ANN them before.
"banhammer this guy" will heart the whole idea of the things we try to do here.... decentralized!!!
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 29, 2014, 06:29:23 PM
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/QOAyQtV.jpg
LOL
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin on: September 29, 2014, 06:09:46 PM
Disney Coin
The coins are an artistic representation of the company's future coins, however they are real tradable crypto-coins
[IDISNEY] A Mickey Token-Coin*
* The Micky Token-coin model is my intellectual property


The Disney Coin is the second in a series of coins which are made
to present the future of crypto-currencies and the future of a true free market, which breaks the state's monopoly on currency.

The coins  are real coins which can be traded P2P*
on the counterwallet exchange platform

open wallet here to buy coins https://counterwallet.io/

*However, these coins are not backed by the Disney company. It is the first real traded Disney coins which are made as a
representation  using the artistic freedom, an artist like myself has, to paint a very clear vision of the reality I wish to represent.






MIckey and Minnie present the original, first ever, most fun crypto: The Disney Coin [IDISNEY]
 20,000 Coin have been issued.
.

My Mickey art sequences will be on sell for the total value of 10,000 [IDISNEY] coins
My Minnie art sequences will be on sell for the total value of 10,000 [IDISNEY] coins



All my art sequences of the Disney art series,
will be offered for sell only for Disney Coins [IDISNEY]
Coin sell starts October 20th


1 Disney Coin [IDISNEY] = 0.02 Bitcoin [ BTC ]







Mickey-Token monetary model



The Mickey Token-Coin model differ slightely from the classic Token-Coin monetary model which is based on the Token mechanism

In the classic Token Mechanism all currencies are accepted and are exchanged for the token.
The Token comes out of the issuer's vault once purchase and go back into the issuer's vault after being used to get the Issuer's service or product. The issuer control the token supply to match dammed. In the classic model, that of train tokens or gambling chips  the issuer's interest is to keep plenty of extra tokens in the vault to match damned requirement. In the Classic token model the token price is set by issuer and doesn't fluctuate by market demand.

The Token-coin model makes the token into a currency by allowing the public to trade with it

The Mickey Token-Coin is a sub-group of the Token-Coin model. The supply of coins are still in the issuer's control, but the price is set by the free market mechanism. However, much like central banks, the issuer has the power to control the money supply in the market  and the price of the unit by manipulating the supply. Different from central banks, an Issuer of a token have products and/or services which are giving it its real value. thus the issuer can control production and use it instead of interest rates which are the central bankers instrument.




MICKEY: Minnie!!!! WTF!  These are COCA-COLA colors! We need to promote Disney coin. I told you to dress up in blue

MINNIE: But these are MY colors. This is how Walt made me.

MICKEY: Obviously you dont understand anything, Coca-Cola will sue us, they used "your" colors first.


MINNIE: So are you going to sue Twitter for using your colors?!



Twitter Coin
 [ITWITTER]








MICKEY: Our Coins [IDISNEY] are going on sell today Im excited.

MINNIE: Do you think anyone will buy them Mickey? Real people don't believe we are real.

MICKEY: We are not real Minnie, but the coins are.

MINNIE: I don't get it, these coins are just as virtual as we are and even more so.
 They don't even have a face

MICKEY: Maybe we need to give our coin a face and draw a character, like Bitcoin did.





MINNIE:  He looks cute.

lol OP your off the scale in weirdness !



MINNIE: Why do they think that we are so weird?

MICKEY: Well our developer is using fictional characters to present and explains our coin .

MINNIE: But also Satoshi is a fictional character who presents and explains Bitcoin

MICKEY: But his developer is really smart.

MINNIE: So they think our developer is dumb?!... It must be my fault.










MICKEY: Minnie, you are over reacting, people appreciate you as a character, and eventually they will appreciate your contribution to the bitcoin ecosystem too.

MINNIE: Mickey, maybe you should speak with Satoshi and ask him to reply in our thread.

MICKEY: The great Satoshi Nakamoto?! are you out or your mind?!!! .

MINNIE: He is a fictional character just like us, how much greater can he be?

MICKEY: He is a human! Not a mouse like us.

MINNIE: O' darling, Mickey Mouse is your pet name, you are not really a mouse, mice can't talk or add numbers, remember?





Hey guys I got you on my team to explain our coin to the public. So far we are not doing so great. Minnie you should use your simple minded brain to explain our coin. and you Mickey, well... I thought that you will be rating higher

Oh....Wow! I just realized that you figured out who Satoshi is, he is a cartoon!!! OMG






MINNIE: I don't get it then, if Satoshi is a cartoon how come no one claims him as intellectual property? isn't he really clever?

MICKEY: Maybe he is an illegal alien.

MINNIE: Wow from another planet?

MICKEY: No silly, just someone from a foreign country, who works in the studios without papers .

MINNIE: Like a japanese?

MICKEY: That is a little simple minded

MINNIE: Well as Newton said "Truth is ever to be found in simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things"









MINNIE: Mickey, should we rethink our strategy? No one is buying our coins.

MICKEY: Minnie, the concept that we sell is very sophisticated and we are on the air less the two weeks.

MINNIE: So do you think that people will eventually get it?

MICKEY: Satoshi was mining for a whole year before anyone got it

MINNIE: O.K, so we'll keep digging...









MINNIE: The things we do here as coin presenters, is like what Newton described as "Standing on the shoulders of giants".

MICKEY: Oh Minnie you always confuse things. This quote is used in the academia not in the world of commerce and intellectual property laws!.

MINNIE: But I think that Walt was a genius too, and other people should be free to 'stand on his shoulders'. Just like they do in bitcoin. They call it "Open-Source" and I like that a lot.


MINNIE: Its this cute guy again, I just love him!


584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 29, 2014, 03:21:56 PM
This has to be one of the best thought out scam coins to ever hit crypto land. Hats off to the dev. Wonder how long before the lawyers come knocking?

But why call it a scam?!  In did it is thought out, but as a legitimate scheme which aims at creating a monetary change and benefit thous who contribute to the effort.
As far as the lawyers, we need much more action here for that to happens. So chip in some more replies, and next week, once out for sell, get a few coin and wait for the lawyers to make your little investment do the job for your much bigger investments.. Bringing the big players into the Altcoin world will make all of you here do very well. And that is what im trying to do here in my spacial artistic way.
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [NILI] NILIcoins Art-coins on: September 29, 2014, 11:35:27 AM
Your other thread makes this one even less credible. Are you that pressed for cash?
My other thread That of the Coca-Cola coin [ICOKE] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798131.0 actually reinforce everything that I say here by creating the real assets of the coin just like I have described here.
And this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=793523.msg8937617#msg8937617 is a projection of the future, at the moment I have to develope further that Art-Coins t
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 29, 2014, 09:35:07 AM
got registered on the  Altcoin calender https://www.altcoincalendar.info/coins/910-ICOKE
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 29, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
ALL BITCOINS EARNINGS FROM THE ICOKE DISTRIBUTION WILL BE REDISTRIBUTED AS DIVIDENDS BETWEEN ALL COIN HOLDERS.

Since the COCA-COLA COIN is made to promote the creation of industries coins, and since I am making use of the registered trademark of the company I will give all bitcoins earnings back as dividends to coin holders

The Counterwallet platform is designed to allow such function. watch this video which explains how is this done. (0.58 minut) https://www.counterparty.co/videos/
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 28, 2014, 08:52:00 PM
The COUPON-COIN monetary model

The generic matrix is:

1 coupon unit = 1 product unit
price of 1 coupon unit < price of 1 product unit in the market

The economic/social rules (The game's rules):

1. The coupon units has no expiration date (unlike most coupons)
2. The coupon units will always be redeemable by issuer (or risk management agent) for the product or the monetary value it was issued at.

The monetary benefits of the model:

1. coin value stability - A value that range between the market price of the product unit ,and the issue price of the coupon unit.
    The smaller the gap is, the less fluctuations of value are possible
2. Ease of rating the real value and risks of the coin - The balance of,  products in production, damned for this product and the total value of      
    other assets can be evaluated to determine the real value of the coin at any given moment

* There are more complex benefits once the coin enter a credit pool and is lent out on behalf of the borrower potential production power.  I will issue these points in another document which I will post soon

Let's restate what you've written there (I was about to say, restate the axioms of your system, but nothing here is self-evident).

1 coupon/coin = 1 work of art.
1 coupon/coin < 1 work of art.  (See, there goes my math right there)

Ergo, all works of art are identical and worth the same.

The value of a work of art is far more subjective than anything else in the marketplace, and it's value is STILL what someone is willing to trade for it.  Any evaluation in your mind will remain there, forever a fantasy.  Only the buyer actualizes a potential value.

You have a real problem with writing sentences that don't have much meaning.  Try putting some actual numbers to them and put up a few clear examples.  For instance, you don't differentiate between these coins, coupons, then make a blanket statement along the lines of "and of course there will be coin stability..." because why?  If I can explain Cantor's diagonal proof to a 12-year-old I'm sure you can explain your meaning, with examples, and with real numbers.

Also, make sure you're using the words you use for their meaning and not effect.  Matrix has a specific meaning, and so does axiom. If you're "figuring out the axioms of a system" you're basically itemizing what everybody already knows, because they are self-evident.




The COUPON-COIN monetary model





1 coupon unit = 1 product unit
price of 1 coupon unit < price of 1 product unit in the market


The coupon units has no expiration date (unlike most coupons)
The coupon units will always be redeemable by issuer (or risk management agent) for the monetary value that it was issued at.


The monetary benefits of the model:

1. coin value stability - A value that range between the market price of the product unit ,and the issue price of the coupon unit.
    The smaller the gap is, the less fluctuations of value are possible
2. Ease of rating the real value and risks of the coin - The balance of,  products in production, damned for this product and the total value of     
    other assets can be evaluated to determine the real value of the coin at any given moment

* There are more complex benefits once the coin enter a credit pool and is lent out on behalf of the borrower potential production power.  I will issue these points in another document which I will post soon
                   






  
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 28, 2014, 01:05:02 PM
well, this will never get listed on a serious exchange due to copyright infringement
so there's no real value to this coin

There could be real value in it even if not on a major exchange
Since the caounterwallet is and exchange platform,  you can always exchange any coin on the wallet for bitccoin or xcp if there is a damned for the coin..
Since the counterparty wallet exchange is decentralized, I think that it should be resilient to a court order, Counterparty should  have no power over my actions. If counterparty can prevent me from offering my coins there, then we need to come up with something better.
It is a very good test case, even if  for this only, you should chip in and buy a coin or two and join the party, so we can make it big enough for the Coca-Cola police to show up.
And a nice party with the a bunch of lawyers would make this your investment worth the fun if not some real good money.
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [IFCC] INTEREST FREE CREDIT COIN on: September 28, 2014, 10:44:05 AM
i am eager to see the  Loan system  let's keep on eyes

The loan system need a lot of prep work which needs investment, so it will take time before this can come out. But I thought that it is important to start putting this idea out there.
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [IFCC] INTEREST FREE CREDIT COIN on: September 28, 2014, 10:39:04 AM
quite interesting coin

This coin will take time to come out since there are a lot of developments that need to take place before.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 28, 2014, 09:46:38 AM
The COUPON-COIN monetary model

The generic matrix is:

1 coupon unit = 1 product unit
price of 1 coupon unit < price of 1 product unit in the market

The economic/social rules (The game's rules):

1. The coupon units has no expiration date (unlike most coupons)
2. The coupon units will always be redeemable by issuer (or risk management agent) for the product or the monetary value it was issued at.

The monetary benefits of the model:

1. coin value stability - A value that range between the market price of the product unit ,and the issue price of the coupon unit.
    The smaller the gap is, the less fluctuations of value are possible
2. Ease of rating the real value and risks of the coin - The balance of,  products in production, damned for this product and the total value of      
    other assets can be evaluated to determine the real value of the coin at any given moment

* There are more complex benefits once the coin enter a credit pool and is lent out on behalf of the borrower potential production power.  I will issue these points in another document which I will post soon
                  


 
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [COCA] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 28, 2014, 08:34:58 AM
this is a joke right ?

NO!  THIS IS REAL  .
THE COINS WILL BE ISSUED AS MY ART. BUT WILL HAVE ALL THE COCA-COLA TRADE MARK VISUALS.

As an artist I want to capitalize directly on my talent and work. I want you and other investor to benefit from my need to bring in "a medium of exchange" so that I can pay my rent. If I use the Dollar I give that power to the state and more so to the banks who take advantage of us all.  when I create my coin or use a coin of my choice I claim that power back. The whole point of that project is to illustrate this concept and make it real.
My future coins like TOYOTA coin or COCA-COLA coin are going to be made in a way which illustrate  how  these industries should employ an altcoin.Iit will also be offered for sell  as art  I will explain it in details when we get there. Coca-Cola coin will be first to come out after the NILI coin issue event  which will take place in the end of October.  

EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED HERE:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782161.0

So what exactly is your talent?  You're using their logo, their art, their design, all other people's work and talent.  What exactly are you bringing to th'e table?  What are you producing?  Um... a limited edition of numbers in cyberspace.  Just because something is rare doesn't make it valuable.  I'm sure the world is slowly running out of MacDonalds E.T. tumblers, but they're not auctioning them at Barkleys.

*sigh*  "Concept Art"  Hits a new high for lazy.  Y'know, I used to live with a guy who was/is a head scenic for I.A.T.S.E.  Scenic artists specialize in fast technique, bang it out fast and cheap as possible, enough to fool the eye and not much more because there's always the budget and the timetable.  And "Twitter Art"  Tweet something and declare it art?  I'll bet it "raises questions" about communication in modern society.


WOW Im really impressed (im saying it with out sarcasm) , you actually read and looked up the links.
I will answer that (without sarcasm)

My true talent is in understanding the underline structure of a system. Im actually really good at getting to the source of which, the system was contracted on. Or in other words, the underline axiomatic laws. You would be surprised what lays behind some of the most celebrated scientific theories, and where they go wrong. I will not get into it unless you will ask me to do this, but a large part of my training is uncovering these.
The concept of money and the monetary system as a whole is right up my alley. On this alone I have spent  years of laboring, including some early art pieces one which was other sorts of currency I named LOVE-NOTE.
On top of that Im a good visual artist and have what it takes to be a good scenic artist which is something you should not undermined.

However,you are right for not being convinced yet, since much of my work I did not expose to this crowed here, and is not on the internet. Also on the coin models I have not elaborated much yet. After completing this comment I will put in writing the full explanation of the COUPON-COIN model.

594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
How will this work? Do you have the copyright for it?
Once you create your wallet here https://counterwallet.co/ you will be able to start trading on the wallet's exchange market.
My Coca-Cola coins ICOKE will be put on that exchange for sell soon (in about a 10 days)
This is the link to a video that explains how to exchange on the wallet's platform https://www.counterparty.co/videos/ (though things have changed a bit since the video was made)

I dont have copyright and it is an important part of this coin's concept not to have these rights (as you can see in the comments above)
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 05:16:51 PM
THE COINS HAVE BEEN ISSUED!!!. NOTE THE CHANGE : THE COIN LETTERS ARE [ICOKE] (since COKE was taken. lol)
sale date to be announced soon
Go to this link and get your counterwallet ready https://www.counterparty.co/
There are no ICOKE coins to buy on the market yet 
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [COKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 02:32:54 PM
specs?

The coins will be issued on Counterparty wallet since it suit the model of this coin which I call "Coupon Coins"
I will issue a finite number of coins. Each coin will act as a Coupon to buy my product at a discount,just like Coca-Cola might do one day,
I will sell 1 bottles of Coca-Cola for 1 Coca-Cola coin. My Coca-Cola bottles will be art pieces which I will describe later.
One thing that is important to understand is that the "Coupon coin" model is not very good for manipulative use since unlike The "Token-coin" it is not the only means of payment, and thus it keeps its value in the range between the discount price and the regular price.
On the "Coupon Coin" model it self I will elaborate much more soon.
As far as the end value of my coins,  since they are made as art and are in a very limited addition, there is a chance that they will be worth more then the initial value which I will sell them for. after all im not going to sell cola with it.

1 [ICOKE] coin  = 1 Coca-Coal soda bottle*
*This bottle is an art piece not real soda bottle
1[ICOKE] coin = 0.01 Bitcoin*
*coins that are issued and put in the market for sell in the first round
1 Coca-Cola soda bottle* = 0.1 Bitcoin*
* The art bottles can be bought directly with Bitcoin but the coin acts as a coupon.
 In the real Coca- Cola coins case it will make sense to keep a much smaller gap between the market price and the coupon coins.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [NILI] NILIcoins Art-coins on: September 27, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
This is the link to My Coca-Coin that is in the making [PRE-ANN] [ICOKE] Coca-Cola Coin  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=798131.0
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [COKE] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 11:48:12 AM
did you get the copyright?
I did not ask for it. I dont really need it
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [COCA] Coca-Cola Coin on: September 27, 2014, 09:50:11 AM
China... No copyright..

So this will be like chinese iPhone, cheap and dies quickly. Smiley

WELL... SINCE THIS COIN IS ART AND WILL BE ISSUE IN LIMITED ADDITION BEFORE THE REAL COCA COLA INDUSTRY COIN, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WORTH MORE   Smiley



Let me eleborate for you.

It is you, against a billion dollar company in court...



I think that Mr Buffet (Warren) might be one of the first to buy my coins or pay to gain legal rights on my coin model.  Shocked He of all investors understand the power of real assets. and it cant get more real then a coupon-coin which represent the value of a bottle of coca-cola.
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