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581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: POLL: Is Bitcoin for EVERYONE or just a new ELITE? Vote! on: February 18, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
Back in 1993, was the Internet for EVERYONE or just a new ELITE?

The question is not “What is it right now?” but “What SHOULD it be?”
582  Other / Meta / Re: [BUG] A little bug in the label news on: February 18, 2015, 04:07:17 PM
This also happened previously; you just didn't notice it because the link wasn't so long.

Whenever your session code is in the URL, all links are broken. Otherwise, your session code will be sent in the referrer if you click one of the links and the destination is HTTPS. (Links are also broken with some JavaScript things like quick edit when your session code is not in the URL.)

I changed the link to a shorter one so it's less annoying.

Maybe the session code shouldn't be included in the URL to begin with?

I think changing the link to a shorter one is fixing the wrong problem.
583  Other / Meta / Re: News link goes crazy when replying to a topic on: February 18, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Seems to be fixed now.

No, I still see it (different URL, but same behavior)
584  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 18, 2015, 05:18:42 AM
Uhh no you would be completely wrong. I only need one scenario where it is useful. You have it backwards.

If I'm a criminal and I find a flaw in the legal system, do you think I would still go the obvious way and get caught? Once there's a flaw, everyone will start to use it and the system is just a big curtain. Unless the flaw can be fixed (and there's no way to “fix” coin mixing as far as I'm aware), then all effort is futile.

I didn't say what i want is a solution, it is simply a way to do some basic due dilligence.

Yes, but your proposal will help filter exactly zero criminals in the long run, because everyone will be using mixing services before spending their stolen coins.

zero says you, more than zero says me

How many more than zero? That's the important issue here.
585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can you -not- buy with bitcoin? Let's get that list down to zero by 2016 on: February 17, 2015, 09:34:37 PM
Phone service. It seems such a natural fit. I know I can use a bill pay service for a fee, but I would like to directly pre-pay for my phone service.

Landline or mobile? At least for mobile I use a service in Mexico called PagaBitcoin to prepay for my calls.

I don't know if there's a similar service for other countries.
586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Was Also The Worst Performing Investment In 2011, 2012 And 2013 o.O ! on: February 17, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
Thank god it's the worst investment. Bitcoin was never intended to be an investment.
What is meant to be an investment? If it was never meant to be an investment there would be no halving or a long term limit supply.

It was intended as a currency. What makes you think so?
I think if it was intended to be a currency there would be no halving, halving has nothing to do but limit the amount of coins, less supply means each is worth more, especially when there is an overall limit. If it was mean to be strictly a currency it would aim for the most stable price possible and that would keep a strict singular distribution rate if not scale and increase the amount of coins based off transactions or hash power.


Do you think having a different distribution rate would actually have made Bitcoin stable?

Also, the whitepaper doesn't say anything about investments, but it does mention the concept of electronic cash.
587  Other / Meta / News link goes crazy when replying to a topic on: February 17, 2015, 05:36:38 PM
The news header, the one that currently says that the latest version is 0.10.0, is shown differently when replying a topic. Instead of being a link, it shows the actual URL of the link, which is pretty big.

Something like this:

News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.10.0 (https://bitcoin.org/en/download) [Magnet (magnet:?xt=urn:btih:170c61fe09dafecfbb97cb4dccd32173383f4e68&dn=0.10.0&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&ws=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.org%2Fbin%2F)] (New!)
588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Was Also The Worst Performing Investment In 2011, 2012 And 2013 o.O ! on: February 17, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
Thank god it's the worst investment. Bitcoin was never intended to be an investment.
What is meant to be an investment? If it was never meant to be an investment there would be no halving or a long term limit supply.

It was intended as a currency. What makes you think so?
589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Was Also The Worst Performing Investment In 2011, 2012 And 2013 o.O ! on: February 17, 2015, 04:51:15 PM
The entire post is sarcasm at the stupidity of the press.

Turns out most people don't open the links.
590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Was Also The Worst Performing Investment In 2011, 2012 And 2013 o.O ! on: February 17, 2015, 04:28:25 PM
Thank god it's the worst investment. Bitcoin was never intended to be an investment.
591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Time Travel Kill Bitcoin? on: February 17, 2015, 04:24:50 PM
[...] with quantum entanglement and superposition [...]

Wait just there. If you think quantum entanglement enables faster-than-light communication (and therefore, time travel), then you don't understand how quantum entanglement actually works.

Yes, quantum particles are entangled in such a way that if we measure the spin on one particle, the spin on the other will automatically be its reverse, and this happens no matter how apart they are. However, we have no way to control which spin the particles will have. They are chosen at random the moment they are measured. So, no, there's no way to send information using quantum entanglement, at least with the current knowledge we have.

This video explains it very well.
592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many Fiat users are Mentally Ill ? on: February 17, 2015, 02:11:40 PM
"A mental disorder, also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life"

Fiat is used to extend and promote wars, which tends to result in suffering. Thus, people who use fiat (behavioral pattern) cause suffering. Thus they are, ipso facto, mentally ill.

That causes suffering to themselves, not to others. Therefore, people using fiat does nothing to tell whether they are mentally ill.
593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can you -not- buy with bitcoin? Let's get that list down to zero by 2016 on: February 17, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
I think the list of things we still cannot buy directly with bitcoins is countless. I can't buy most things in my country. I can't buy a car from a dealership. I can't buy anything from my local shop. I can't buy petrol. I can't buy medications from my pharmacy etc, though I think and do hope the number of things you cannot buy will shrink over time but it could be a very long wait before we can purchase everything we need with it.

Does your petrol station use a card that can be filled online? Or your pharmacy?



But that's like saying they also accept apples because I could sell the apples to someone in exchange for a card which I can then use.

If all you have are apples, that would be pretty useful.

Yes, that's how it begins. That's how the first pizza was paid for Bitcoin: he paid for someone to buy the pizza with dollars.
594  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 01:44:22 PM
I am not fully aware of how mixing services work so if someone could explain or link me to a site that explains this it would be a big help.

Either you merge your coins with others in a single output and then split it differently, or use a reserve of unrelated outputs to redistribute them.

Thanks for the link, it confirmed the basic knowledge i already had of coin mixing, i will look into this further when not at work.
1 question, if the coins going into the mixing service are already marked won't they have to pass on the coins in the future?
Just say i want to mix my non marked coins for whatever reason then get back coins marked 'bitstamp hack' or similar i would not be very happy.
 

That doesn't happen, because outputs are merged and split, losing track of their original addresses.
595  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
Uhh no you would be completely wrong. I only need one scenario where it is useful. You have it backwards.

If I'm a criminal and I find a flaw in the legal system, do you think I would still go the obvious way and get caught? Once there's a flaw, everyone will start to use it and the system is just a big curtain. Unless the flaw can be fixed (and there's no way to “fix” coin mixing as far as I'm aware), then all effort is futile.

I didn't say what i want is a solution, it is simply a way to do some basic due dilligence.

Yes, but your proposal will help filter exactly zero criminals in the long run, because everyone will be using mixing services before spending their stolen coins.
596  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 05:15:13 AM
Uhh no you would be completely wrong. I only need one scenario where it is useful. You have it backwards.

If I'm a criminal and I find a flaw in the legal system, do you think I would still go the obvious way and get caught? Once there's a flaw, everyone will start to use it and the system is just a big curtain. Unless the flaw can be fixed (and there's no way to “fix” coin mixing as far as I'm aware), then all effort is futile.
597  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 05:13:08 AM
I am not fully aware of how mixing services work so if someone could explain or link me to a site that explains this it would be a big help.

Either you merge your coins with others in a single output and then split it differently, or use a reserve of unrelated outputs to redistribute them.

This comes from BitMixer's page:

598  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 05:06:34 AM
I am not disregarding your reason, it is valid. But me rejecting an unmixed coin is just as valid.

For your solution to work, it must be able to work in all scenarios. I just showed an scenario where it's invalid. That scenario is enough to prove the failure of coin filtering, because then all criminals will mix their coins and circumvent your system entirely. And surely they are already doing this.
599  Economy / Economics / Re: Dirty coins on: February 17, 2015, 04:36:23 AM
If you say you don't care, then I think you are not being a responsible member of society. You should care and you it is easy to check, so why not do it.

No, it's not. After the thief uses a coin mixing service, there's no way to tell where those coins come from.

I didn't say he used a mixing service.

But I say he does. We need to take into account all scenarios.

So in your scenario my app to check address history wouldn't be useful because of the mixer. Yep great.

You seem to disregard this reason, when it's actually one of the strongest. Do you actually understand how mixers work?
600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Time Travel Kill Bitcoin? on: February 17, 2015, 02:43:13 AM
What about non-physical time travel? I've heard stories about "remote viewing" through time with the mind and imaging of the past/future with technology.

We could have an organized group of Illuminati satanists using computer enhanced remote viewing to observe Bitcoins various future successes and take action to ensure the success of bankster scam fiat currency. Maybe even sending in especially designed anti-crypto drones to deal with the Bitcoiners.

Something like Minority Report?
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