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5841  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: June 22, 2016, 08:39:39 PM
Twitchyseal you have created over 250 accounts and spent more time on Betcoin.ag than any player and most of staff in Betcoin.ag history.  You have had 249 accounts completely terminated, which has eliminated countless posts equating to hours, days, weeks and months of work over a two year period.  

Your commitment and passion are unparalleled and quite frankly unbelievable!  

Every great company, entertainer, artist, sportstar etc has it's heckler and really it is to be embraced because when someone spends this much of their most valuable asset, their time with you...you are onto something great!  

Thanks for your support twitchyseal and now back to assisting our great customers!

5842  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: June 22, 2016, 08:30:36 PM


Welcome to betcoin poker.

You should expect to be treated this way for as long as you choose to stay.
5843  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: June 22, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
You fail to mention that jasonort plays at Betcoin.ag Casino frequently even after this and is well aware that these are Betsoft rules.  We also speak to him frequently and he very much enjoys the experience at Betcoin Casino over other bitcoin casinos.    Most of the top casinos feature Betsoft games and you play directly on the casinos servers under their rules and we pay out based on this and are credited on a big win such as this would have been.  It would have been awesome for us from a marketing perspective to announce this win, but it is not a jackpot win within Betsoft's rules as it is a free spin and not a max bet paid round according to Betsoft.  The result would have been the same on any other website. 

Funny, you say the same bs about me.

How could Jasonort be well aware of any rules other than the rules that are published?

How are you aware of these rules?  Where are they?  Just show the damn rules and you can shut everyone up.

I get that the games are provided by Betsoft, I don't get why you wouldn't back up your player.
You should spend some time reading the evidence.  Jason did bet the maximum for the .5 denomination progressive Jackpot, which was ~500 bitcoin.
Had he been betting the highest denom, the jackpot would of been over 2,000 Bitcoin.
By the way, your front page advertises the jackpot as 3,800 Bitcoin.  Might want to fix that million+ dollar difference.
Some slot machines don't allow jackpots during free spins.  Some do.  You can tell which is which by reading the rules.  Give it a try.
The whole thing stinks of scum.

I see why you ignore me all the time though, attempting to defend yourself only makes you look even worse.
5844  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: June 22, 2016, 08:00:07 PM
Also worth noting is plo8monster (mod and official "site pro")

When the accusation was first made, he said this in the chat:

Quote
plo8monster: thats totally not true lol ungod ... the bonus max out at 1000chips, and the vendor has that rule .. betcoin dont pay it the vendor does ... you guys all jump on bandwagon ... but these are vendors that do sports and casino games ..... I dont have time to get into this tonight ...but the vendor limits bonus wins @ 1000 chips .... if he were spending his money and made that spin he would be Phat with coin

After more of the details emerged and it was clear most players did not agree with Betcoins stance he changed his tune:
Quote
plo8monster: i told you im not gonna to join that conversation ..im a poker pro smart enuf not to play slots ...i played maybe 10 times in my life
plo8monster: i am not knowledgable about slots
plo8monster: slots is not something i can help with i know zero about them
plo8monster: I had a roomate at that time playing my slots and showing me how with my bonuses ... but i am not a slots player
 plo8monster: why ya gotta be such a biiiish twitchy
plo8monster: this issue with Jason is NOT MY BUSINESS ... how many times must i tell you same thing it is waste of time

pathetic



Betcoin finally responds:

You fail to mention that jasonort plays at Betcoin.ag Casino frequently even after this and is well aware that these are Betsoft rules.  We also speak to him frequently and he very much enjoys the experience at Betcoin Casino over other bitcoin casinos.    Most of the top casinos feature Betsoft games and you play directly on the casinos servers under their rules and we pay out based on this and are credited on a big win such as this would have been.  It would have been awesome for us from a marketing perspective to announce this win, but it is not a jackpot win within Betsoft's rules as it is a free spin and not a max bet paid round according to Betsoft.  The result would have been the same on any other website. 
5845  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: June 22, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
we are honest with you. If you will take a little time to read recently posted information you will find out that:

You're really not.  If you take the time to read recently posted information, you will see.

For example, you make it very clear that you don't allow farmed accounts, and that you consider users with alternate accounts farmed:

come back when you will improve your account with a highest quality posts and I will review your account again for sure.
Also your trust feedback is not really clear, if you are an alt of any other active [*account farming is not allowed] account you cannot participate in our campaign.

Good luck,
best regards.
Account farming is not allowed due to our campaign rules and due to the Forum rules. We don't have to write anything about it because by default everyone need to follow the Forum rules.
Have a great evening,
best regards.

Then, when presented with proof of user clearly abusing multiple campaigns, you allow them to remain:




Wow, Lorylore sure can pump out those posts.

Check out this post from 6:12:38 am...

indeed, it is a very good business plan. however, it is also not easy as you need to have good security and good marketing skills. Otherwise, some casino that i have known end up closing cause too little people.

13 SECONDS TILL HE'S READY TO CLICK POST AGAIN!  13!!!

end up a lot of time, they became addicted and it is no longer just want to recover their losses cause it is too much to recover. they will just throw in hundred of dollars to gamble each time.

Did a little digging, figured out some of Lorylores other accounts.  3 of them are Hero accounts.
Lorylore = NamelessNames  = hua_hui =n691309


On the campaign spreadsheets Lorylore has betcoin username listed as "namelessname" and has had two different addresses listed.

lorylore   namelessname   14ohJQacYpBKxLfgrZHBST8u95ahx2ocV6
                                        

The 14ohJQ address is part of wallet [22a1a664fb]
16ijBeEWHty2MEwrdX8q9Zd7yg1SyEPWHVis also part of wallet [22a1a664fb]
Tx 6b95f56347805de8583268e97e117b0b58a449bf0572b6ecc5d1d7b9716ee79d proves that these two addresses are from the same wallet.

NamelessNames (Lorylores Betcoin username) is linked to the address here https://archive.is/qaqaT#selection-5799.0-5805.33


The same address is linked to another account here:

I am interested to join this campaign.

Bitcoin Address: 16ijBeEWHty2MEwrdX8q9Zd7yg1SyEPWHV
Current Post Count: 1329
Current Rank: Hero Member
Wearing Rollin Avatar: Yes

Would like to clarify that recently i didnt manage to post because most of the time, i am trying to reach out to my previous campaign manager regarding the late payment for a month long. I did not post anything cause i dont want to make hard for him to count otherwise it will snowball for him.

Also, in this scam accusation lorylore is involved in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1113913.msg11822218#msg11822218 he links himself with 1HujfN1jHD3r6J2ByhqvDEuSEzbP15NpWK.  The very same address used by another account for another campaign:

   2nd round      10/04 to 23/04         
   Users excluded      Reason         
   tenaciouzd      Negative trust         
   ctlaltdefeat      Acc. problems         
   Users enrolled      Start postcount      Address   
   target      613      1C3THPy2m5cgoC7wa3PYB798TYrBsjoho5   
   BestWebCreator      135      18E6Kq3bPLgLxcuzvB9NS6hYKbjGF4bNL8   
   Boosterious      326      1K57NqyZo2Hqw6b868nLhhtnjueZsX2YGW   
   DimensionZ      631      35JcZTnCvkGPMJJN4ECNzJaRGdirAqmGgA   
   ricardobs      255      12sRkUGJtRfm67ns5SpWX5pgSkzp3AK3nq   
   voztata      218      1K9ux9KhF8LSysNTXt6HaZC9a2LR7Yjqz7   
   darewaller      215      13e2M1mZSAdRUaUNMTPucqtQ3cxAMQHFHk   
   jak1 NEW      347      Pending   
   brituspol      335      1vRtv4CpYU1tJnHiwCydi9trmL9k8H3xw   
   cazkooo      1367      1mh9LsmUJDGPJDRWWDNP7nfTEukdgWTac   
   eyeknock      293      1J1xzmLYuYFtuWDiTUVcZSBRcDBRx7V19i   
   ColderThanIce      300      1BTvaus9gBkknn4TNDBvbYwMhhiTfxpXJD   
   jayce      1245      1DzyGwaLoo8tKo5dShGo9FEjrWW1SxFfUy   
   Jeremycoin      2124      19jwJ8hLJVCSfXsnCXKTeWREi9yjGsqHU1   
   davinchi      778      12ZHmYuekZ8wQ2df1JrkrjEyTA4dunvvHQ   
   Gianluca95      2691      1NHepUNRpYy1GCMp6ws6y8zCuWYS14jmt7   
   mixan      1045      1KbbxZ9kgzRohK47bv2vEBkoUrPi6ojpNc   
   Wendigo      3696      16pp5ZXeQbfjU76eZgh5bxS8YrJu7xw3A6   
   KenR      751      1M28aVkPiCcu28Hb3rrZ3gk8N6YsgKW4Zi   
   sukamasoto      1039      1E1j2uMTLfXMDM6YZrWSnXPneRsVbht8k3   
   traderbit      967      1HHu1gKwCcFAQeVNNvAdazz9L3D8bv2b9Y   
   n691309      835      1HujfN1jHD3r6J2ByhqvDEuSEzbP15NpWK   
   iram66680      751      35EEQWGYeXE7wvYS7FLMcaf96QmRpR6ruz   
   crazyearner NEW      3842      1BitsiGUGTTQK4ibEmFMUEQPKuSnw3z4cu   





Hello,

Welcome on board!
It was mentioned few times that you will get paid for constructive posts in local. Just make sure that it's constructive.
Constructive... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Thank you to everyone for your interest and involvement in the Betcoin.ag BitcoinTalk Signature campaign.  Your quality posting, interest and support means a lot to us and we will continue to work very hard for you.  

Your standards sure are low when it comes to classifying something as "quality".

Are is it some inside joke I'm missing and it reads "Thanks for your quality posts" *hint hint, wink wink* Wink

There's tons of examples of Lorylore posting exclusively in the mindless signature grinder threads, filled with thousands of 2 sentence posts by members in paid campaigns.

You already know the current owner of Lorylore purchased the account sometime last fall, and also owns Hero account  "Hua_Hui" right?    Refresh your memory HERE if you forgot.

Isn't it funny how they respond to themselves as if they were different people?
Quote from: Lory_Hui-SamePerson
you are right, usually these 2 are easier to make money cause they requires skills instead of just pure luck. So if you are really good, you can really make a living out of it.

There has been people already living base on their prediction. The most popular sport prediction can earn like $10k and above per month just base on people buying his prediction.


i dont understand why a lot of people tell you to gamble. gambling is playing a losing game. however, if you invest in a casino, you are having advantage.

i agree, if you gamble, you are most likely to loss all of them, and if you invest in gamble site, you may end up profiting which is very common.
it is ok to gamble regularly, as long as it does not affect those people around you. Even our country has betting station and each bet is like minimum $50. with bitcoin, you can bet with as small as $0.10 so you can bet a ton of times.

however, the scary thing is that you may start off with small bet, you will get addicted and will bet bigger and bigger. 0.1btc may not look that big but that is actually 20usd. you will also end up betting more cause there is more option for you bet with diff casino.
that is the power of bitcoin. and it is very hard to track too. as for my country, the government dont allow us to transfer our money to online casino. but with bitcoin, it is hard for them to stop us.

Same, the government really block a lot of online casino. We even have a new rules last year that it is illegal to bet on popular site so we have to withdraw all the money.
(Notice how many non-contstructive posts Rossilina found:)


5846  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetcoinPoker.com Betcoin.ag-Big Tourneys-BONUS-Freerolls, Ring Games, Real Poker on: June 22, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Pretty serious accusation against Betcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.0

Cliffs:

JasonOrt bets max with .5 denom on Glam-Life and triggers 4 extra spins.  

On 4th spin he gets 5 yacht symbols and wins 1000 credits, not jackpot.

Pay table says:


(No other rules found anywhere about Jackpot)




A) Betcoin tells him he was not eligible because it was a free spin and attempt to shame him by telling him most players know what he does not:
Quote
most players understand that it is a bonus or free round and there are different outcomes because of that.
Then lock his thread: https://www.betcoin.ag/should-pay-line-have-won-jackpot-glam-life, and delete most of the comments.

Jasons Defense:
GreedyGoblins is another slot with a progressive Jackpot offered by the same service provider.  
Here you can see they clarify that even though the freespin round offers multipliers, the jackpot can not be multiplied.  This implies that the jackpot is not excluded during free spins.



B) Betsoft Gaming tells him he was not eligible because he did not bet max with the highest denomination.

Quote
Thank you for your inquiry. We can confirm that your win was correct in this situation. A maximum bet for this game is the highest denomination which is 1.00, whereas in this particular round, you bet 0.50, even though you chose 'Max Bet', the jackpot is only won when it is the maximum bet (1.00).

Jasons Defense:

Every denomination clearly has an independant jackpot.  When you switch denominations, the jackpot changes.  

On casinolistings.com they track bovadas Glam Life Jackpot.  It's clear they are independant and all denominations are eligible:



The owner of casinolistings.com also chimed in: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.msg15313569#msg15313569



Finally we have the comments of plo8monster, Betcoins lone site "pro" and the father half of the father/son chat mods.

While being discussed in chat he sided with Betcoin immediately:
Quote
plo8monster: thats totally not true lol ungod ... the bonus max out at 1000chips, and the vendor has that rule .. betcoin dont pay it the vendor does ... you guys all jump on bandwagon ... but these are vendors that do sports and casino games ..... I dont have time to get into this tonight ...but the vendor limits bonus wins @ 1000 chips .... if he were spending his money and made that spin he would be Phat with coin

After the story was clear, 2 days later, he made these statements:
Quote
plo8monster: i told you im not gonna to join that conversation ..im a poker pro smart enuf not to play slots ...i played maybe 10 times in my life
plo8monster: i am not knowledgable about slots
plo8monster: slots is not something i can help with i know zero about them
plo8monster: I had a roomate at that time playing my slots and showing me how with my bonuses ... but i am not a slots player
 plo8monster: why ya gotta be such a biiiish twitchy
plo8monster: this issue with Jason is NOT MY BUSINESS ... how many times must i tell you same thing it is waste of time


Hopefully Betcoin will have time to respond to this sometime between thanking users for kind words and going home for the weekend.


Oh almost forgot, the jackpot was 1,007,249.91 credits at .5mbtc denomination.  (503.6249 BTC current value of ~$383,000)
5847  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Warning: Directbet selective scam 38+ btc CAUTION on: June 22, 2016, 02:37:51 PM
Hope to see this end, was getting worried op gave up.
5848  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: June 22, 2016, 07:13:56 AM
I think it's been proven that the denomination excuse is not a valid one, this should prove that the free spin excuse is also not valid:


From the paytable of greedygoblins, another Betsoft Jackpot Game:


By clarifying the jackpot can not be multiplied, we conclude that free spins that are a result of a max bet are eligible to win the jackpot.   

In Glam Life, there are no such clarifications.
5849  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: June 22, 2016, 03:50:40 AM
The jackpot contribution for Good Girl Bad Girl is being calculated incorrectly. The game allows you to play in Good Mode, Bad Mode, or both. If you play one or the other, 1% of your total bet goes to the jackpot. But if you play both, your total bet is doubled but so is the jackpot contribution so that 2% goes to the pot instead of 1%.
Where did you find the info listed on jackpot contribution?

Is there anywhere they have basic terms for progressives?  Like what it resets to, a list of Jackpots and which sites contribute to them?
5850  Economy / Reputation / fun-casino.com is untrustworthy on: June 22, 2016, 12:48:45 AM
Not sure if this should be in scam accusation or not. Mods please move if so.

I think user fundev is due some negative trust.

Advertising their casino as decentralized with all games provably fair.  Many have explained to them how ridiculous and untrue their claims are.  They don't seem to care.


English Thread

Spanish Thread
Russian Thread


English Thread OP:

Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

What does it mean – decentralized? Huh

Decentralized casinos are totally independent and anonymous without any administrators who can interfere either in gaming process or financial relations between casino players.

The purpose of such decisions, which no one controls, is to facilitate the exchange of goods and services between unknown people on the principle of "smart contract"
ensuring justice and fairness once the transaction is finished (transaction between player and fun-casino).

Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.

Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss. The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.


Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

What does it mean – decentralized? Huh

[/b]
Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss. The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

I might be confused but this doesn't sound decentralized or provably fair.

Hello!

The casino operates without any administrators (its deposits and withdrawals performed automatically and checked by the system only).

As for Provably Fair, so all SoftSwiss casino games are Provability explained and you can check it while playing (find purple icon on the right top corner of the game, there is the hash (Result+Secret)). It means that result of every PF game is know at the very beginning of the game. Read more here Wink


Ignored NLNico:

Please change your title and opening post. You are not by any means "decentralized". You are lying by saying you are decentralized and giving a false sense of trustworthiness. I personally think that is negative-trustworthy.

Also the fact that you mistype "provably fair" as "probably fair" doesn't give me much confident in your ability to run a fair/trustworthy casino.
To be honest I don't really care about that "no depo bonus" thing, if you are paying 0.12 BTC to people who never made a deposit then I would call that pretty nice already.

I am just annoyed by that "first decentralized" title.

I am very excited for what the future of bitcoin gambling brings us and I do think decentralized gambling on sidechains or something would be possible at some point. But your site is just a very ordinary casino site with third-party created games. Nothing decentralized.

Most of your OP is not true.  Are you standing behind it still or have you realized how far off you were over the past 10 pages?
Please, provide facts what of our OP is not true.
Quote
All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
^  ^  ^  ^ ^
This is false.  Do you understand?

ok, remark here "All casino SoftSwiss games are Provably Fair"
So let's say it's not 100% decentralized, that would be correct.

Great, we're making progress!

I started editing your OP for you, there's still some work to do though:

Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

Decentralized casinos don't exist.


Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which  guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.

Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss.
[/url]The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.


you are so kind spending your time on this, thank you but still if necessary that can be done by our team itself Wink

Hi,

You haven't changed you OP yet.

You should do that since it's advertising things about your site which are not true.  

Right?


Quote
Hello?

Why are you ignoring me?
Please, stop spamming or we'll have to take some extra measures, thank you for understanding!

From their thread in spanish:

Gracias por su opinion, lo apreciamos pero no veo ningunos factores que es lo que ha escrito es verdadero. Nuestros ganadores/ jugadores en general pueden confirmar instant withdrawals, SS Provably Fair juegos y otras cosas. La gente cree en que puede ver cuanto pruebe por eso permita los jugadores nuevos hacer sus opiniones individuales según el juego en FUN-CASINO y todos los bonos que casino ofrecen.

Acerca de Descentralizado, tantos casino existen y FUN-CASINO es uno de ellos puede ser no 100% descentralizado pero 70% por cierto.

Saludos.

Translation:
Quote
Thank you for your feedback , we appreciate it but I see no factors that is what you have written is true. Our winners / players in general can confirm instant withdrawals , SS Fair provably games and other things. People think they can see how much try so allow new players making their individual opinions as the game FUN- CASINO and all casino bonuses offered.

About Decentralised , many casino exist and FUN- CASINO is one of them may be not 100 % but 70 % decentralized indeed.

Greetings.
Please, stop spamming or we'll have to take some extra measures, thank you for understanding!


They ran a no deposit promotion a while back, then changed the terms because nobody deposited:

Well, let's be fair, people didn't make any DEPOSITS AT ALL and recieved 0.12 BTC each. Yes, casino changed the rules and limited withdrawal amount seeing big activity but it's normal, taking into account that casino SIMPLY REWARDS this money. Still, you can give example of other Bitcoin Casinos who give its players 0.12 BTC from nothing  Wink



5851  Local / Servicios / Re: Recompensas por su lealtad! on: June 21, 2016, 08:30:56 AM

Se le olvida tan fácilmente!
¿Quieres ser famoso como el casino que se encuentra ?
FunLies-Casino.com

Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

What does it mean – decentralized? Huh

Decentralized casinos are totally independent and anonymous without any administrators who can interfere either in gaming process or financial relations between casino players.

The purpose of such decisions, which no one controls, is to facilitate the exchange of goods and services between unknown people on the principle of "smart contract"
ensuring justice and fairness once the transaction is finished (transaction between player and fun-casino).

Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.

Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss. The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.


Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

Decentralized casinos don't exist.


Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which  guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.

Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss.
[/url]The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.

5852  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: June 20, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Another serious scam accusation against Betcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.msg15296370#new


Guess you guys are used to that by now though.
5853  Local / Servicios / Re: Recompensas por su lealtad! on: June 20, 2016, 03:46:31 PM

Pero, ¿quién se considera en el casino verdadero ? No es el casino que le dice muchas mentiras . Usted debe cambiar sus mentiras , la verdad es buena .
5854  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: Fun-casino - first decentralized Bitcoin casino. on: June 20, 2016, 03:39:29 PM
Please, stop ignoring me , update your op so that it's not full of lies, or else I will have to take some extra measures.

 Grin
5855  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: Fun-casino - first decentralized Bitcoin casino. on: June 20, 2016, 10:44:26 AM
Quote
All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.
^  ^  ^  ^ ^
This is false.  Do you understand?

ok, remark here "All casino SoftSwiss games are Provably Fair"
So let's say it's not 100% decentralized, that would be correct.

Great, we're making progress!

I started editing your OP for you, there's still some work to do though:

Welcome to Fun-casino, first decentralized Bitcoin casino.

Decentralized casinos don't exist.


Casino software works on Blockchain technology, which  guarantees its players placing bets, winning, and withdrawing their winnings instantly, staying anonymous within the system. All Fun-casino games are based on "Provably Fair" technology, which guarantees fairness of winning/loss.

Casino offers high-quality games from world-famous game providers: Betsoft gaming, Endorphina, Ezugi, Pocket Dice, SoftSwiss.
[/url]The quality and fairness of games are proven by iTech Labs certificate.

Once all Fair games rules observed, Fun-casino guarantees instant withdrawal to its players. If not, player always has a chance to play again following the rules to get their money back.


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Hi,

You haven't changed you OP yet.

You should do that since it's advertising things about your site which are not true. 

Right?



Hello?

Why are you ignoring me?


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5857  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: June 20, 2016, 05:59:27 AM
Check out https://www.casinolistings.com/jackpots/betsoft/glam-life-jackpot

They track the jackpot on bodog for same game and list a seperate jackpot for each denom.

Pretty strong evidence you got at least one bullshit response from both Betcoin and Betsoft.

5858  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: June 20, 2016, 04:13:18 AM
I did some digging when I saw OPs post on Betcoin and how aggressively comments were being censored.  It's shocking how non-transparent Betsoftgaming software is. As few explanations, terms or conditions as possible.  The game in question has a $3m progressive, but don't explain where it comes from or how it's won other than "5 yachts on max bet".  



Pretty unreal.

As usual, Betcoin makes everything as shady as possible by attempting to cover it up and make OP feel like shit for being such a crybaby.  I've personally had over 50 posts removed in the last 2 days and will continue to post all the facts below on their own forum.

Here are the facts:

  • Glamlife is a progressive jackpot game provided by Betsoft Gaming
  • When changing from one denomination to another, the Progressive Jackpot also changes. This indicates that each denomination has it's own independent Jackpot.
  • Currently, for the Highest denomination Betcoin advertises the Glam Life Progressive Jackpot as 3,872.26 BTC (3,872.26 BTC, current value of ~$2.9 Million USD) as Seen here:



  • Jason was playing with .5 mbtc denomination and the Jackpot displayed 1,007,249.91 (503.6249 BTC current value of ~$383,000)
  • The only requirement that can be found anywhere within the game, Betcoin.ag or Betsoft.com/ is "5 Yacht Icons on Max Bet wins Jackpot"
  • At .5 denomination Jason placed the maximum bet of 5 credits x 25 lines = 125 credits or 0.062 BTC (~$45 at the time).
  3 Scatters Triggered 4 Extra Spins (note: no multiplier or anything to indicate that alternative reels were in play)
   On thefinal spin, 5 Yacht Symbols landed on Payline 1.





  • Jason was paid 1000 credits (0.5 BTC) for the spin.
  • Betcoin.ag staff deleted all posts in the thread that had criticism of either Betcoin or Betsoft, posted the following message relayed from Betsoftgaming and locked the thread.  I only archived one of the deleted comments: https://archive.is/eE55g
Quote
Thank you for your inquiry. We can confirm that your win was correct in this situation. A maximum bet for this game is the highest denomination which is 1.00, whereas in this particular round, you bet 0.50, even though you chose 'Max Bet', the jackpot is only won when it is the maximum bet (1.00).



  • Since locking the thread there has been no response to the appearance of each denomination having its own seperate Jackpot.
  • Betcoin Moderator Plo8s comment on Issue (It's standard for him to defend Betcoin with nonsense):
Quote
plo8monster: thats totally not true lol ungod ... the bonus max out at 1000chips, and the vendor has that rule .. betcoin dont pay it the vendor does ... you guys all jump on bandwagon ... but these are vendors that do sports and casino games ..... I dont have time to get into this tonight ...but the vendor limits bonus wins @ 1000 chips .... if he were spending his money and made that spin he would be Phat with coin

-Betcoin Andrews response on deleted comments via private chat:

Quote
(10:13:16) *** Betcoin Andrew joined the chat ***
(10:13:16) *** twitchyseal joined the chat ***
(10:15:47) twitchyseal: hey andrew, you know anything about my vanishing post?
(10:17:21) Betcoin Andrew: Our casino providers do an excellent job and are used by the top online casinos. We cannot have those type of comments about them in the forum as they are constantly reviewing our website.
(10:17:26) *** Betcoin Andrew left the chat ***

  • About Betsoftgaming

-In March 2013, Betsoft was granted a Category 1 license from the Alderny Gaming Control Commision (AGCC) : http://www.betsoft.com/media/betsoft-gaming-announces-completion-alderney

-July 2014, AGCC ordered Betsoft to "cease to offer gambling specific software to Category 1 eGambling licensees, Category 2 eGambling licensees and Category 2 Associate Certificate holders" pending the result of a hearing set for October 2014
https://www.gamblingcontrol.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/AGCC-Notice-R...

-October 2014, 3 days before scheduled hearing, Betsoft surrendered their license and rights to provide class 1 e-gaming to casinos located within AGCC jurisdiction:
https://www.gamblingcontrol.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Digitus-notic...








5859  Economy / Reputation / Betsoftgaming Progressive Jackpots - Something's not right(Betcoin.ag involved) on: June 20, 2016, 04:12:10 AM
I did some digging when I saw OPs post on Betcoin and how aggressively comments were being censored.  It's shocking how non-transparent Betsoftgaming software is. As few explanations, terms or conditions as possible.  The game in question has a $3m progressive, but don't explain where it comes from or how it's won other than "5 yachts on max bet".  Pretty unreal.

As usual, Betcoin makes everything as shady as possible by attempting to cover it up and make OP feel like shit for being such a crybaby.  I've personally had over 50 posts removed in the last 2 days and will continue to post all the facts below on their own forum.

Here are the facts:

  • Glamlife is a progressive jackpot game provided by Betsoft Gaming
  • When changing from one denomination to another, the Progressive Jackpot also changes. This indicates that each denomination has it's own independent Jackpot.
  • Currently, for the Highest denomination Betcoin advertises the Glam Life Progressive Jackpot as 3,872.26 BTC (3,87226 btc, current value of ~$2.9 Million USD) as Seen here:



  • Jason was playing with .5 mbtc denomination and the Jackpot displayed 1,007,249.91 (503.6249 BTC current value of ~$383,000)
  • The only requirement that can be found anywhere within the game, Betcoin.ag or Betsoft.com/ is "5 Yacht Icons on Max Bet wins Jackpot"
  • At .5 denomination Jason placed the maximum bet of 5 credits x 25 lines = 125 credits or 0.062 BTC (~$45 at the time).
   3 Scatters Triggered 4 Extra Spins (note: no multiplier or anything to indicate that alternative reels were in play)
   On thefinal spin, 5 Yacht Symbols landed on Payline 1.





  • Jason was paid 1000 credits (0.5 BTC) for the spin.
  • Betcoin.ag staff deleted all posts in the thread that had criticism of either Betcoin or Betsoft, posted the following message relayed from Betsoftgaming and locked the thread.  I only archived one of the deleted comments: https://archive.is/eE55g
Quote
Thank you for your inquiry. We can confirm that your win was correct in this situation. A maximum bet for this game is the highest denomination which is 1.00, whereas in this particular round, you bet 0.50, even though you chose 'Max Bet', the jackpot is only won when it is the maximum bet (1.00).



  • Since locking the thread there has been no response to the appearance of each denomination having its own seperate Jackpot.
  • Betcoin Moderator Plo8s comment on Issue (It's standard for him to defend Betcoin with nonsense):
Quote
plo8monster: thats totally not true lol ungod ... the bonus max out at 1000chips, and the vendor has that rule .. betcoin dont pay it the vendor does ... you guys all jump on bandwagon ... but these are vendors that do sports and casino games ..... I dont have time to get into this tonight ...but the vendor limits bonus wins @ 1000 chips .... if he were spending his money and made that spin he would be Phat with coin

-Betcoin Andrews response on deleted comments via private chat:

Quote
(10:13:16) *** Betcoin Andrew joined the chat ***
(10:13:16) *** twitchyseal joined the chat ***
(10:15:47) twitchyseal: hey andrew, you know anything about my vanishing post?
(10:17:21) Betcoin Andrew: Our casino providers do an excellent job and are used by the top online casinos. We cannot have those type of comments about them in the forum as they are constantly reviewing our website.
(10:17:26) *** Betcoin Andrew left the chat ***

  • About Betsoftgaming

-In March 2013, Betsoft was granted a Category 1 license from the Alderny Gaming Control Commision (AGCC) : http://www.betsoft.com/media/betsoft-gaming-announces-completion-alderney

-July 2014, AGCC ordered Betsoft to "cease to offer gambling specific software to Category 1 eGambling licensees, Category 2 eGambling licensees and Category 2 Associate Certificate holders" pending the result of a hearing set for October 2014
https://www.gamblingcontrol.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/AGCC-Notice-R...

-October 2014, 3 days before scheduled hearing, Betsoft surrendered their license and rights to provide class 1 e-gaming to casinos located within AGCC jurisdiction:
https://www.gamblingcontrol.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Digitus-notic...








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