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5961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price increases 1000$ in 10 minutes - why? on: April 13, 2018, 01:47:11 PM
$1000 price rise is only 14% which is about 4% higher than normal fluctuations of bitcoin. what I am trying to say is that $1000 rise from $6900 is not that big if you look at it in % form.

the reason is because bitcoin has been much lower than it is really worth for a very long time now and it needs to go up. this upward movement has been suppressed for a long time now which makes rises more like a jump up rather than a simple slow rise.
additionally it is kind of a Technical Analysis thing. price broke out of a triangle and that acted as a signal for traders that a rise is coming so they rushed to invest and price jumped as a result.

hmm i guess you might be right with the technical analysis part. I looked at a few charts where it looked like the biggest down trend of the bubble was over, so i guess that was really it then?

it was hard to say yesterday but since the rise has not stopped and price is still up above the initial rise even after its correction at $8000+ I can say there is a good chance that this is the end of the downtrend and the chances of any more drop is decreasing with any minute that bitcoin spends above $7800-$8000.
If it would able to sustain this price range then it would really be considered for a reversal trend.Not sure but theres still a possibility.Ive keeping my eye on the entire marketcap and it gradually increases which means theres still a chance that this would be the beginning of bull trend if not then it would be just fake out.If you make active trades then these kind of moments would really be profitable for you.
5962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What do you choose between wallet or exchange ? on: April 13, 2018, 01:17:12 PM
what do you use wallet or exchange for?  Do you want to trade or hold ?
If you hold on a mid term or trade, you should use exchange. And hold your coin for security, you should use hardware wallet.
Basic thing and theres no need to repeat this kind of illustration yet there are lots of topic already towards this matter. Exchange wallets would only give advantage if you do make active trades but if you do tend to hold for long term then hardware wallets would be suggested. Storage will be depending on ones decision on where which path hes going either for long or short term.As long you are aware into your own coins then it should be fine.
5963  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Low activity long term BTC investing? on: April 12, 2018, 03:43:43 PM
I feel your angle. Time is actually what you are struggling with and it is well understood, some of the users have same issue too. The best you can do is to still leave your bitcoin inside the wallet, you sell when it is high and buy again when it is low. With this, you won't be bordering with always checking on your investment. You can also trade forex on a long time like a month if you like.

But, if you want to give your money to loan service, be sure it is registered.
When you don't have soo much time to engage yourself into other things then you should let your bitcoin kept for long term rather than on minding or stressing yourself out on  how to make it big or grow because if you hurry too much this will eventually result into wrong decisions which will really be the main reason or cause on losing out money.Dont risk if you aren't sure on what you are doing and also its your money where you do have the full control on which you will put those funds.
5964  Economy / Speculation / Re: what is the relation between btc and other alt ? on: April 11, 2018, 12:30:13 PM
~snip~
Going back into the past on where we can really make presumptions basing on bitcoins and altcoins price. Sometimes they do go with the same trend and sometimes they do go on opposite ways which we can really say that theres no specific or strong basis if we do rely into this informations. They arent accurate yet this is really a very volatile market. We might able to see same trend or opposite trend it all depends on the market supply and demand conditions.
5965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Do they are lot of bounties scam ? on: April 11, 2018, 12:12:45 PM
There is no choice for us until if we don't see any progress. Most of the ICO, are getting into scam without further updates from the company, during the ICO the marketing will focus on marketing the product but failing to develop after the ICO.
This do results on seeing lots of shitcoins in the market because when a certain coin is listed on exchange developer do tend to leave it and dont make any updates which i do see its much better compared to those projects or coins that didnt even hit up on exchangers.When we do talk about bounty scam this is the most common thing where developers do make because making money is quiet easy specially when fooling out investors.This is why we should really be careful on investing.
5966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Urgently asked!]Members!Why didn't nobody participate in Our Bounty Program? on: April 09, 2018, 04:50:46 AM
No one will respond to such an offer. I recommend you hire an experienced Manager for bounty. For advice you can turn to those managers who moderated many bounty. You can write PM yahoo62278. He is the best Manager on the forum. I hope I helped you.
Seconded into this one. I would suggest for a reputable bounty manager which i would recommend yahoo for this matter.Sometimes bounty campaigns do need a reputable person into this forum so that people would be aware that its being handled by a good manager which they can guarantee that the campaign would be handled well and thats the time there would be lots of participants would joined up and this is one of the factors should be done first and as being suggested you should contact yahoo towards this.
5967  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you trade for money or emotional satisfaction? on: April 09, 2018, 04:15:50 AM
I don’t really think so that there will be such kind of person who will be doing the trade for the sake of emotional satisfaction and that all those who are going to trade or are doing trade are doing it because they want to make money and that they want to change their lives and that this is the reason why there are so many traders sitting in the international market and are dreaming of having a better living too.
Anyone who is trading today is obviously trading to get rich and nothing else. Maybe the idea of getting rich while trading may make them emotionally satisfied but I do not think anyone with the act of trading itself will be looking at getting emotionally satisfied from it.

There is nothing like emotions in making money anyway, the essence of making money generally even outside trading is to make a lot of it, and it has nothing to do with emotional satisfaction. If anyone wants emotional satisfaction, they should fall in love or go and marry.
Emotional satisfaction has nothing to do or correlated with trading since most people will always think off on how to make money in trading and thats for the sake on making money.Emotional aspects isnt fitted on here and i do believe on than one where most of us here on this market do having the same goal which is on making money and thats the truth.In fact being emotional on trading is a factor that would affect your trading way.Its not a satisfaction side but a thing that can affect us which is really normal on trading.
5968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Should we limit members in one campaign? on: April 09, 2018, 03:32:59 AM
Dear all,
Sorry for any inconvenience for this topic,
I’ve ever joined some bounty campaigns and get some tokens. Bellow are my thinking:
There are some projects attract so much participants, although that means the project is very interesting but it has limited bonus. Result, bonus that each participant receivers from the campaign very small. A lot of participants in one campaign has made so many spams on social networking….
So a question here: Should we limit members in one campaign?
(maybe depend on the bonus value of that campaign)
What are your thinking?
Please share…


 i think is good if bounty campaign use limit participant
because bounty campaign participant can get good payment
but promote can't masive if use limit participant
This will be normally the exchange on having a limited participant since the exposure wont really be that massive compared to those campaigns which do have lots of participants.For having that kind of limitation then it would be an advantage into its participants yet the reward would be much more higher due to limitation but this kind of campaigns are just few on numbers or just really rare at all because most of them do have hundreds or even thousands of participants into each campaign.
5969  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes when trade coin on: April 09, 2018, 02:49:26 AM
1. Too hasty, lack of knowledge

-This is a mistake that most investors when started. The hot growth of the market, the price of Bitcoin growth every day is the main motive for new investors to participate in this market. They are always afraid to miss the opportunity. So they hurried into the market and forgot to learn. So learn first. Be patient waiting for a price you think is good, or at least according to technical and market signals.

2. The goal is too big, greedy

-You should set goals when entering the market just to be profitable. Do not expect too soon to be rich or become a millionaire in a short time. When I join ico, it must reach x $ or x5, x10 for these ico, that actually kills me. When the price fell, I did not sell. That was a big mistake.
Most of the investors, trader has experience, they only want to increase their property by 30% in a month. They are too happy. Remember to a story put the grain on the chessboard with 64 boxes. Patience, not to lose, your property will quickly bulge
Remember to expect 30% of your assets, you are likely to lose 30%, expecting x5 x10 accounts quickly will help you to 1/5, 1/10 of investment capital.

3.Do not stoploss
-This is an extremely important lesson. Any experience or famous investors emphasize this. Stoploss help you have successfully trade up to 80%, do not know how to stoploss, you certainly never win, just fail sooner or later. You can not stop the market trend, stop loss is painless to want to do, but it protects your capital, help you get back to very quickly.

4. Try to resist the trend
-Try to resist the trend
You will be dying right away, which is the answer to trying to resist the crowd trend. In a festival, the whole crowd is joyfully moving forward, you just go back, you are immediately stamped to death. For the market too. When the crowd rushes to buy the excitement, you think the market will fall, you will certainly lose money. In contrast, when the market has strong sell trend, you try to hold the more losses. Get out as soon as possible and go earlier than the crowd.. If you run after the crowd, of course you will be able to die with the crowd, know enough and stop even though the crowd is still running. In every investment, in the long run the crowd has never won. When you are swept away so fast, as the car is so fast, braking slowly no matter what trouble will help you stop safely, waiting for the incident, whether the car is good but you also hurt less a lot of.
When money matters all they could think of is getting that quick money into their hands these guides will be foreseen by professional traders but not on ignorant fools. Changing the way people think will be difficult regarding their attitudes or behavior well depends on the circumstances. For new starters it's too big to apprehended so quickly and they tend to get lazy about something like this and that leaves them unknowledgeable by an important topic.
Common thing that a certain newbie would able to commit which on first time reading up these helpful guidelines and indicators is really pain in the ass on their side thats why they do leave it and rather continue or doing Yolo but sooner or later they would really learn up from their mistakes and will comeback with new experience and will be careful on next time. Exeprience or mistakes will really be the things that will mold us up but on first encounter we will surely neglect these things.
5970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Selling for a loss to buy cheaper crypto? on: April 07, 2018, 04:09:15 PM
I do agree. Sometimes just holding is not the only option. You might have to let go your investment and suffer a little bit of loss. If you keep on holding your investment, you might miss the opportunity to invest on other coins which might otherwise have given you higher profit than you could have earned with your current investment.
If you arent sure towards into your decision if you would pull out or not then you should not rush up but if the time comes that you do have intuition or do see an opportunity on making money then do this at your own risk.Selling out on a loss and investing into a new coin for potential profits that might even breakeven your loss or even profit you more than on you expect then its already up to you.Making decisions would always vary based into ones experience.
5971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Most crypto millionaires forgot that they had crypto! on: April 07, 2018, 03:13:45 PM
This is my council to you, invest some amount which you can afford to loose completely and then just forget that you have crypto, don't care much about the current prices. Be a F* HODLER.
Most crypto millionaires were holders and they didn't even know that.
Don't try everyday to understand the market and neither try to take profit from every bounce - you'll probably give it back to the market another day.
I will leave some quotes from Jesse Livermore which I assume are great for this topic:

“After spending many years in Wall Street and after making and losing millions of dollars I want to tell you this:  It never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!”

“Remember this: When you are doing nothing, those speculators who feel they must trade day in and day out, are laying the foundation for your next venture. You will reap benefits from their mistakes.





This is true but without luck it will be useless. There are lot of us who deeply hold lot of coins during the latest ultimate dips in which the results was totally disappointment and frustration that if we just sell it earlier we maybe cut the losses. In holding we need constant monitoring and reviewing the update to ensure the safety of our assets not just to forget then rely on luck that someday it will become unexpectedly expensive this is because every hard earned money is very important even that amount is affordable to lose.
Not only luck but also the capability on knowing potential coins which are really worth to hold on.If we do see on all altcoins in the market.Hitting up the golden opportunity on a particular altcoins would really be hard.Its normal for a trader or investor to think and react on the things that will happen along the way.Doubts and price reaction would be there,for those people who got millionaires do somehow accompanied with luck or either they dont totally expect that for that coin rised up it price in a matter of long time.
5972  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin as property on: April 07, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
I am not totally convinced with this 'though the possibility is there, the thing is,  how can we consider it as property if bitcoin is only existing in the internet and the holder has no control with the price? Property is a thing that no one can control it and also when we talk about property we are talking about the physical thing. Could you please give me more explaination regarding this matter? I do really want to understand it? Thanks.
Property can be always classified or do mean on all the things we do posses and bitcoin can be considered as one but we do all know in the word "property" it would turn out always to see it on physical form and i do rather believe that bitcoin is an asset rather than a property.You said it hasnt a physical form and do only exist digitally and market price cant really be dictated and it do matter most on supply and demand where i somehow disagree into this matter.
5973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Should the price falls affect the bounty price? on: April 07, 2018, 02:17:11 PM
A few times ago, the reward we achieve from 1-2 bounty projects still allow us to walk like a cassanova hero.
But nowadays, with prices keep unstable, should project owners reconsider the token rewards they offer?

Opinions?
You should get used to it because investors will normally profit taking out first before into bounty tokens being released.They are the first ones who do able to get tokens and once listed on exchanges then they would normally sell out for the sake of profits and considering that bounty do release on last phase then they do usually caught up on the dump thats why price per token would be entirely different on what you did calculate into their actual token price.
5974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Signature bountry on: April 07, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
They don't give award weekly but they do update the spreadsheet weekly to encourage their bounty to continue with their tasks, and about awards, they don't get it exactly just after the bounty campaign end. They need to wait for the ICO sales to end, or depending on the forum statement if they said onw or two weeks after the campaign then its good, rules understanding is one key also when to wait or when to complain for your award.

Most of bounty campaign has been opened when the time pre sale time has been deployed on their website. Till that to active sale has been over they will run the bounty campaign. Even after the ICO ends token distribution will not be take part.

There are some bounties still paying the already listed tokens weekly and some bounties pay us along with the ethereum or others cryptos.
New projects do usually comes with bounty campaigns and usually tokens would be distributed in the end of the sale or might able take some time depending on the team thats why dont expect too much on recieving coins as soon as possible because it can take some time.I do only rarely see for bounties which do have already listed on some exchanges and do repeat bounty thing.
5975  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Posible next price BTC 4861.1USD or you can buy Now and sell 6694 on: April 07, 2018, 12:30:23 PM
Personally, I see in the picture a bunch of all delirium Grin

months ago there was a guy in the tradingview who swore that bitcoin price would drop to $1000 and after 4 months the price of bitcoin rose to more than $19,000, I'd like to see his face. Then there was another guy who swore that the ripple price would drop to $0.19 and months later the price of ripple rose a lot to $1. these guys are the kind of person that we should not take their predictions as if they were 100% guarantee and we should not trade based on the data they provide

[...]

Is another prediction that only spreads more fear in people



This reminds me of people like this guy that are on the opposite side of the fence:
https://uk.tradingview.com/u/CoreTrade/

On March 28 he predicted the price would go down to 7600 and reverse to possibly 9k. Then on March 30 he predicted that in the beginning of April we'll go down to 6000 then back to 6500 and finally again to new lows around 5600. His analysis is like tea leaf reading, with the difference that tea leaf reading is sometimes right Cheesy

Here's another pro:
https://uk.tradingview.com/u/winsoar/

On April 4 he thought we are going lower and according to him we should be at 6500 at this moment and falling, but the price went up, so he made another ANALisis predicting that from this point we'll go up to around 7k USD. We can only hope that he's right this time, because he's mostly wrong. Like on March 25 he predicted that we'll go up from 8k and in the following week we had a serious of dumps that took us to 6400. So he was overshot by 2k USD Cheesy Those tea leaf readers are funny at times.
We cant really avoid those people who do make analysis towards bitcoins price speculations would still come every now and then since people do have knowledge into trading field specially for those who came from stocks and forex and now they applied it on bitcoin market which we know predictions would either go that way or not using technical analysis but its much better compared on having no analysis at all.We might hit up 4k price when the support line would be break out.
5976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: WARNING fake POLONIEX on: April 06, 2018, 05:03:45 PM
Good awareness you have there pal! Thanks for sharing it out. Phishing sites are common nowadays which most of those hackers do really target famous or big exchangers account and hoping that someone would able to log-in with their exchange credentials. If you are careless and do rely on search engines suggestion and clicking out links carelessly without the habit on reading or reviewing it out then most likely you would really got to be victimized.
5977  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC down to 6654 in Japanese time on: April 06, 2018, 03:46:34 PM
Until people stop panic selling and dumping so much coins into the market when they see the price go up a bit then prices will keep falling because these people are just filling the market with supply. it will
But not all the peoples are panic selling in Bitcoin because many peoples are still believe the bitcoin. The main reason of price fluctuation is social media and Mt gox selling the 6000 BTC so don't blame the peoples because consumer is always supporting to crypto currency. Bitcoin is always potential coin again it will raise soon but we should wait for one or two months.
No specific time on when prices would shoot up once again and in regard with the current happening into bitcoin market we can really say that recovery would really still takes time. Panic sell cant really be avoided because when people do see falling prices they do panic out and sell out to their btc holdings which would really contribute into the dump.Bad thing for them but good thing for those people who are after on buying cheaper coins.
5978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Panic sell? on: April 06, 2018, 02:53:55 PM
Due to unstable price of market, Is it now the best time to sell all the holdings of altcoin and revert it back to tether for safe mode? Will the price of each altcoin keeps going down? Please can anyone reach me on this.
what if your money back and you are satisfied with the value, it is okay to sell altcoin you have. the decision is all in your hands and if you sell you get a loss, better hold it first and wait until the price goes up.
If you sell out into these very red or bearish market if you do able to get break even when it comes to usd value then it would just fine as long your capital isn't being decreased or you are on negative profits but if you sell on loss then this is the biggest mistake that you will ever do.Why? because price would really recover no matter what and its better to wait than to panic sell.Instead on minding to sell out it would be much worth of if you would tend to buyback even more coins which you do believe that can potentially rise later on.
5979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Exchanges on: April 06, 2018, 02:22:19 PM
I'm wondering if it's worth exchanging Bitcoin to Monero for security as Bitcoin is quite volatile and monero seems less so. Any advice would be appreciated.

To be quite honest I am sure that BTC is less volatile than Monero. Yes you may watch the short term charts and simply say that, however you must know that BTC will always be more stable since it has more market cap and with that less chance to get played around with. Monero has 45times smaller market cap and that simply means it can be manipulated 45 times easier by large investors. That is exacly why we avoid putting our money into sub 200mil worth coins.
If it is security you are looking for than you shouldnt be in crypto. If you are looking least risky coin it is definetly the one who has biggest market cap - Bitcoin.

BR.
What are your basis?In such regard when it comes to volatility? If we do try to look out 24 hour volume we do know who is on the top which is Bitcoin. If you do only base on a single exchange into shorterm timeframes on its chart then you would really have a wrong presumption towards this matter. Monero is still volatile but bitcoin would always still have the edge when it comes to trading activity.
5980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Ways to find a bounty program of your liking on: April 06, 2018, 01:51:51 PM
I'm sensing you're not keen to join bounties on basis of project strength itself (whether or not it's great or not), or whether or not you actually want to support the coin/token when it does launch. If that's the case and you only want bounties that pay, pay well, and on time. Look at this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2477796.0

Run by some of the best managers this forum knows. They only take good projects. I've also been lucky to join programs that always pay.
As a bounty hunter you would really always longing for projects which do really pay decent into its participants. On questions above you cant really able to calculate stakes in the beginning since no one would able to know on how many people would join such stuff and also considering you look out for the allocated percentage budget at the start of the bounty.Usually projects do give 1-2% on tokens sold or overall supply.Depending on them and this would really vary on your potential tokens to be earned.
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