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61  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you see trading as fun and games? on: January 21, 2018, 05:55:04 AM
I don't think you will see it as "fun and games" once you lose money. Trading is a complicated matter and must be taken more seriously if you really want to earn money. There are risks in trading and if you are not an expertise then you might have loss instead of gain.
Fun only when you do it randomly but then you get huge profit, people nowadays tend to practice something like this which I personally disagree with the way people trading like gambling, you need to have a clear plan with a lot of efforts, not just choose which one and do invest on it and repeat, that's wrong.
They just know the small profit within short time by lucky and made them forgot the reason they got that profit. I know a lot of people did not know anything about the coin they invested huge money, but because the market still in bullish trend helped them earned many money. But currently, they're the loser because the bearish trend or can be call is correction started.
62  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it time to buy some BTC? on: January 20, 2018, 03:50:43 AM
Yesterday was the perfect moment to buy BTC. I have bought 0.1 BTC. I recommend this period because the price is still low.
congratulations, maybe you are now enjoying a profit of 30%.
immediately do buy back when the price starts to fall back. or you choose some coins to hold.
The price of Bitcoin can't dump more than 50% per day, other cryptocurrencies also have same rule. You can check the Bitconnect price, after dump to below $10, it has pumped more than $70 again though within short time, but, it proved the cryptocurrency always follow this rule for percent down.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | EDO |EIDOO Wallet - Hybrid Exchange - Marketplace| OVER 80k ETH RAISED | on: January 20, 2018, 03:40:46 AM
today is distribution for aidrop LEND and tomorrow is distribution for bounty Eidoo
just prepare money from now to get Eidoo at cheap price, don't miss this opportunity guys Smiley

https://www.binance.com/trade.html?symbol=EDO_BTC
https://hitbtc.com/EDO-to-BTC
LOL Grin, do you mean the bounty hunter will sell EDO at cheap price Roll Eyes? I'm a bounty hunter from signature campaign of EIDOO, but I never thought I will sell it below $10, because I think this price is the base price for this coin and the potential of this platform, project.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do Altcoins really have a future? on: January 20, 2018, 12:39:54 AM
Yes they do. But not all. Good coins will survive while crap coins will die. Altcoins are very essential in the market. The demand is high and is used by day time traders. With out altcoins, their will be no daytime traders. Altcoins have their own different usage ang purpose, and we are now enjoying their existence.
Because the nature of cryptocurrency is its system depend on the users to create the network and confirm transaction, beside that, it is also decentralized system. Therefore, if we just put all money in a cryptocurrency, this coin will have problem in system and the nature decentralized.
65  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: January 19, 2018, 11:52:03 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!

I think that nobody can improvise as a trader without study and experience. certainly it is easier to lose money without the right skills.
but by studying and with the right tools, in addition to a good self-control it is possible to make profits with trading.

as you said correctly, if it were easy we would all be rich.

Trading is a proper profession and without skills and the required knowledge, no one can perform good or excellent in this field. I am sure that all the expert traders have experienced some losses for checking out the success rate of their strategies plus they do have sound knowledge of crypto market. I am very much in favor of gaining s much knowledge as possible about digital currencies if you want to become a successful trader.
Not like us, I know the whale and the rich or those who have power to change the trending of market don't trading manual. They use BOT, AI for trading and we are just the food for them. Some people can be success if follow right the trend of the whale.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum will overtake Bitcoin on: January 19, 2018, 11:38:16 PM
What you say is perfectly reasonable, as the exchange rate growth of Ethereum in 2017 surpassed that of Bitcoin, while Bitcoin grew only 4000%, Ethereum grew by almost 10000%. The impressive number of experts predicting that 2018 will be a boom year for Ethereum, though it may not have completely replaced Bitcoin.
Ethereum has smart contract, new system, devs are still working, used for many deals in cryptocurrency community ... while Bitcoin, the most interesting point is only the value. Nothing is better than Ethereum in the platform and ability to applicaion for reality.
67  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Better investement right now, bitcoins or Altcoins. on: January 19, 2018, 11:18:38 PM
It is clear:
Bitcoin

Only Bitcoin now
According to my personal experiencebitcoins and some altcoins like ethereum are best for investing. But also depend on your choice that how much you want to invest and in how much time you want to get response. If you want to invest on high level then bitcoin is best otherwise ethereum is best.
The fact, Ripple, Verge, or even shitcoin is BCN were pumped higher than Ethereum in the percents growth (in the last year). Although the price of Ethereum has pumped too, but you shouldn't think it's the best coin for long term investment, other altcoins also have same opportunity Wink.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 21, 2017, 10:24:51 PM
Kickico won the best ico of the year 2017 award. It was pleasant news cam out but was expecting because this platform is going to make its mark next year. I am glad to be holder of these tokens and will expect quality work and development continuously. I say keep up with such impressive work.

I don't think they win it.

They got ICO of the year nomination. And nomination means nomination not winning it. Probably there are more nominees and there will be a voting or something similar. Still, it is a prestigious nomination.

We took the first place, actually. We won, not just nominated

Oh really. Sorry, i understood that "KICKICO just won "ICO of the year nomination" means kickico win a nomination for the contest. I really love this project and holding my tokens since.

Congratulations on your success. 2018 will be our year i believe Smiley
Just for speculation, I think the price of KICKICO token will be high in March until May in 2018. Between that time, I think we will have new moves in the price of KICK token. As long as the cryptocurrency market still keep bullish trend, I'm sure my prediction will be true.
69  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What to do when prices are falling on: December 18, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
Hello. I have a folio of BTC, ETH, NEO and some alts. I've been watching at Bitcoin since 2015 but bought only at this summer (and the last move was quite bad, I bought some BTC for $4600). I try to study, watch vids, read forum and twitters. Chris Dunn has a vid on the topic but nothing really specific. I'm interested in some ideas about what to do when prices are falling.  Sell alts and hold bitcoin? Short? (and if yes, so the next question is how to learn how to short?).
If you are an investor, keep it and do not panic if the price falls. I hope you did exactly so and now you are happy. If you are trading, then use stop loss. Short is not for beginners, you can quickly lose part of the deposit, if you do not guess the trend.
Good advice, i also wanted to add that trading is not  a matter of panoc selling it is nornal but to sell is an other option only if yoi're in hurry or not so much loss for a moment and leave the dump ride.
I think it still depends on your cut loss price. As long as the price of which coin you bought dumped below your cut loss price, you must to accept this loss. It's neccesary and make you compliance your rule in trading.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: December 18, 2017, 05:53:58 PM
I heard that bitcoin is a good investment for making a huge profit in the future , is that right ? Because i want to buy some bitcoin in these days .

yes of course bitcoin is the right way to invest the money we have, not just bitcoin but we can also invest in existing ICO with investment in ICO we can also get very much profit when price goes up expensive.
It is not always a good way to multiply your asset by investing in ICO,you have to be careful about the team behind these projects and they must have a good solid proposal to believe that they would fulfill their promise,bitcoin at this price is not a wise investment according to me ,but if you are confident that the price will keep on climbing,its your call.
Try to diversify your way of earning money or focus in a way to make money as trading to help you become the master in trading. In my opinion, this is the good way to investing. ICO isn't the best way to earn profit though the profit of some investor can be huge in this field.
71  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Patience and Holding on: December 18, 2017, 05:28:16 PM
Yes indeed holding on to btc is really difficult especially when the odds are against you but when you have enough experiences then you will know regardless of situation and market trend bitcoin will alway pump at the end. Holding and patient, is the key to success in cryptocurrencies trading. It may sound easy but you need to learn from experiences or just cut your internet when the odds are against you.

No no no, you are wrong, please don't cut your internet when you have loss. Instead, you should research the reason make you have this loss. Then, try to think you should take loss or check the price has dumped below your cut loss base or not. That's should things you must to do.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 18, 2017, 05:10:35 PM
Can kickico get due valuation in the next half year? The price now seems not to be ideal. I don't understand why its price is lower than ICO. The project team should do something about it  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

No, it isn't the mission of devs. In my opinion, they can't change the price of KICK token while the whale or someone are making the price of this token below the ICO price. Therefore, until the community of KICKICO project are really want to make the price of this token increases, I think we just can make it in that time!
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] MONETHA - Decentralised reputation with built-in payments on: December 18, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
Rank    Address    Quantity    Percentage
1   0x0027bcc0275ed76e0b338a42e7e08dec36d25678   185536579.7   46.1075%
2   0xfe9e8709d3215310075d67e3ed32a380ccf451c8   45112893.38946   11.2110%
3   0x15ab2321d7e83d00c015048b567f4f6aadc1b022   7492670.65245   1.8620%

The above WHALE just added ~ 5.5 million tokens in the last day!

For the past two days, the coin value now sits between 0.12 - 0.16. Hope it continue it's momentum to be on top. The volume of trades last day reach almost 6m, and that means 4x the average daily trading volume of MTH. There might be some whales getting in to monetha as they see the bigger potential of it.
With two factors, I think the price of Monetha token will increases in next year. Because at current, the market are waiting the move of Bitcoin price, I don't think we will have big changes in next days until 2017 be ended.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [RCC] Reality Clash - First ARG Mobile Game with ERC-20 Armory on: December 15, 2017, 10:22:54 PM
We're happy to inform you that the unsold RCC from the Token Sale has been burnt by Token Market.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohs7Za0a2X8b7JZ3G/html5

This has reduced the Total Supply to: 24,487,944.00 RCC.

You can check the transaction for this burn and the total supply via: https://etherscan.io/token/0x9b6443b0fb9c241a7fdac375595cea13e6b7807a

I think with 24 millions total coin, this coin price can hit at least $1 when hit in the major exchange. I think when the price still cheap like now, we can accumulate as much as we can and hold it

so any plan about hit major exchange , i cann't wait for it ,i really want to see what will happen .
Maybe in 2018 when alpha/beta game will be release, the team also add this coin on big exchange. So we must be patient, for now we just can wait and accumulate RCC coin at low price if interested
The news about the burning of coins is good. We are waiting for a beta version of the game. The coin holders will have to be patient.

I agree with you, patience is the key so that we can get high profits. I think there are two factors can make RCC price increase, the firsth about exchange and the second about beta version
The beta version is probably the main reason that a token can grow. This will give publicity to the project and attract those wishing to purchase tokens.
So we must be patient untill the team release beta version. I think gaming project very interesting, maybe this game can more success than pokemon go. So RCC coin price can start to rise
We are the investor and we aren't the speculator. We don't need to have profit soon. Wait a long time and spend it as the fees to receive the huge profits from this token, we will be the rich through RCC token. I have strong faith in the future of Reality Clash project, gaming market never the bad field for growth.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Good time to buy ETH now? on: December 15, 2017, 10:18:56 PM
its best to buy early next year i think. Bitcoin and Eth are going high as of now and is continues to do so but many of the activities are ending late december so the best schedule to buy them is early january when many of the activities are starting.

Thank you for you advice, I am a newbie to this crypto world, I have been learning for a month on this forum, I think the eth and btc are too high, but I have to admit that they are still the best choice for newbies since the price is stable and rise step by step.
Long term investment doesn't mean you must to invest in cryptocurrency have much fluctuation. Choose cryptocurrency can be growth more in future and potentital, Bitcoin and Ethereum are the best choice for long term investment. But one, two, three years or more than is necessary to get huge profits from your investment, it also depends on your funds.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔵 UTRUST 🔵 The future of online payments is here. on: December 15, 2017, 10:10:47 PM
https://medium.com/@UTRUST/dear-community-4abe3ed298b6
UTRUST is pleased to announce a strategic partnership with Aptoide, one of the top 3 Android app stores in the world. Aptoide’s 200+ million users downloaded over 4 billion apps and games to date.


If I remember correctly, UTRUST is a project about online payment and want to become the next payment method can compete to Paypal, is right? But I'm seeing UTRUST cooperate with an android app store and it's not related anything about payment Tongue.
77  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading sucks, I'll just hold my coins on: December 15, 2017, 10:03:10 PM
Yesterday I just lost 1.8k USD, maybe in USA or in West Europe that's doesn't much, but here in my shitty country that's a f* big amount of money. Here the minimum wage is ~ 300 USD / month. So that's like 6 month of work if I cut my bread and water and live on air. Half of my saving were other investments, but anyways... I'm feeling shitty right now. Oh, and I break my laptop. So yeah, that's another - 500 usd.

I though I can trade. Buy low, sell high. Sounds good, doesn't work.

Looking at the charts and candle sticks and watching old bitcoin values, and huge spikes (pump, I saw here how people uses the pump word, daaaamn...) I was... yeah, I can totally do that. I'll just buy when it's low, and sell it when it reaches the top. Well, I was wrong. You can't see the future, otherwise everyone would be a millionaire. That would be true if you would have a delorean from '85 with Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly and you could f* travel in future and see the PUMPS!!!1

So anyone who will read this message (noobs like me) if you don't have any trading experience, don't do it. There are expert traders who know how this market works, when to buy and when to sell. Don't assume your skills by watching youtube videos and reading "daily indexes and predictions" of how the price will rise or go down by shitty sites. That's just dumb. You don't know what's gonna happen. Maybe a little bit of luck, or I don't know.

So yeah, from now on, I'll just leave the trading area for experts and I will invest in bitcoin by buying every 2 week or monthly and saving into my wallet. And one day (I hope so) the price will rise and I will buy for my self a delorean.

Cheers!
Trading is sucks if everyone experienced lost of money. But on the other side, it is very fun due to it's challenges and capabilities that you will double your money if you are doing it right. Losing money is not fine and it will turns you to be emotionally drained but you should think that it's all part of being a trader because for sure that the expert in trading made a mistake before they achieved how to deal with this process. Watching videos on you tube will help a lot in order to be more confident and get back to become a trader again.
No one can be success without big loss. Trust me! Even you can own money from your parent were the rich, but I don't think you can keep that amount to be exist until the end your life. Begin from the hard and success after conquer all, you will be the success person.
78  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 15, 2017, 09:49:44 PM
A lot of people  view gold as a safe haven, and an excellent diversification from paper currencies,it's a traditional market's target,because gold rises in value when inflation takes hold.I think that if you want to protect your money,you must buy/hold gold(in my opinion you cann't earn passive income by holding gold.) and if you want to increase your earnings you must hold btc,not gold,because all we know about bitcoin's potential,Bitcoin is ''mineable'' like gold and more profitable,so,despite this they are different in their properties.
That time has gone when gold was valuable now only thing that is valuable and that is bitcoin and it has totally diverted the attention of gold investors and now people are taking gold as only jewelry and they are investing into bitcoin because they know that btc is really helpful and this coin will surely give them hue profit as well as a lavish life in future so don’t go for gold now bitcoin is here to please you with profit.
Holding bitcoin can give you a huge profit while holding of gold is not able to give you such huge profit because the rate of bitcoin is very high and also the rate of bitcoin is increasing mostly with time and in future the rate will be more high then present rate.
But all things don't guarantee by the government or those who can guarantee our profits from Bitcoin investment. This is investment, so, we all know the rule of investment, we can't have profits forever and the market need to have loser. So, Bitcoin and Gold are good for long term investment, but don't forget calculate the risk.
79  Economy / Economics / Re: crypto is the future, make money of it on: December 15, 2017, 09:38:05 PM
I agree cryto will be future money, but it will take a long time before you can be rich with crypto, we need more user to boost the popularity and we need more transaction using crypto to boost the price, so we still need a lot of time to get rich with crypto
yeah I also agree that it will be the future money and that's right we need more user in our crypto that's why I keep sharing my knowledge about bitcoin to those who are interested in asking me.
The effort we are doing will get back to us, bitcoin is something to share with because it's the future of money and it's up to the person whom we shared with to decide how to treat bitcoin, it could be for investment or just a online payment system, either way, he is making a demand once he will buy bitcoins that will help to increase the value of bitcoin which will benefit the investors and will make bitcoin more popular as the value is growing.
I'm sure the world will understand the most function important in Bitcoin. Bitcoin can become famous as now is by its nature. But its nature can use for other platform. Altcoin are the product from Bitcoin technology (blockchain). And currently, the Japanese government are also use this technology to create their digital currency for payment.
80  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: December 15, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?
I think it won't be as popular as it is at this moment. Its volatility is also where investors of Bitcoin earn huge profit. And if it will have a stable market value, it will not be a more special currency than typical digital currencies and regular currency. Its volatility is what makes it not only as a currency but also a good investment where an investor would earn huge profit. I am not sure about it but this is just my opinion.
Is there comes such sort of situation that we experience a stable market price of bitcoin, then there are chances that bitcoin will lose its popularity. The only thing which is helping bitcoin in this much boost is none other than that of increasing market value of bitcoin and that too in just a very short span of time. Investors are only investing in bitcoin because they know it will make them rich.
Almost the people are greedy. It's the nature of the human, so, there are have many people invested into Bitcoin for speculative. They thought Bitcoin is a currency always increases in the value, they don't know the reason made the price of Bitcoin increased high price at current. Just by some rumor and the profits of others made them become the speculators.
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