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201  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will Bitcoin be worth in 5 years? on: September 25, 2017, 05:05:13 AM
For me After 5 years possible price of bitcoin is more than 15k dollars. Because as of now the price is 3800 dollars and for sure it will continue to increase after few years . But for sure its very hard once bitcoin reach 10k dollars because for sure once they reach that many people sell their bitcoin . But we dont know what exact price.
5 years is a lot of time to increase the price of bitcoin. so it's still possible to get bitcoin at rates above 10K. in theory this could have happened because the increase in bitcoin prices is now always stable every year. at the end of this year I speculated that bitcoin price rates could reach 5K USD. assuming that every year there will be an increase of 1K USD. so the next 5 years I projected that bitcoin prices could reach the highest value above 10K USD.
Your prediction will come true if Bitcoin get accept from the government in next time. If Bitcoin cannot does that, the price of Bitcoin never increases steady like your said, because it is unstable when no one fixed its value.
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Pay hotel stay cost with token (Altcoin) on: September 25, 2017, 04:59:11 AM
To pay for it using what coin  ?
and whether already In Indonesia , in not already made hotel by way of payment using coins
This is a great idea, but what coins to use?
Paying a hotel with coins it will be very useful, no need to bother preparing cash. I think in Indonesia is not there, but if payment using bitcoin has many services accept payment with bitcoin
I think we can use Ripple or Digibyte to pay hotel fees, these coins are altcoin have ability create a transaction instantly, does not need you spend much time to wait confirm like Bitcoin. Altcoin really better than Bitcoin if you use them to pay daily needed.
203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: September 25, 2017, 04:57:10 AM
I think all investments must have risks like bitcoin also have the risk of losing capital. so before investing we must learn first, because the main capital for the first investment is learning
The good thing about bitcoin is that is not only an investment if you have any skill that you can exchange for money over the Internet then you can get bitcoin for it, so you are not exchanging your fiat for bitcoin rather you are exchanging your time for bitcoin, this is something similar to what happens in new companies that have no money at the beginning and choose to pay their employees with shares.
But here I don't think that we're getting in regards to the time being, bitcoin is highly an riskful asset in terms of security. If it gets hacked, it's lost forever, none can do anything until and unless the hacker himself sends it back. So no such issues happen often, but we need to give more concern to security.
Bitcoin is a network decentralization, do you have read definition about decentralization network of Bitcoin? The decentralization network of Bitcoin is a network created by all Bitcoin users, if hackers want to hack Bitcoin, they need to attack all computer of Bitcoin network Wink.
204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: can bitcoin wallet be hacked by hackers? on: September 25, 2017, 04:50:27 AM
i think   no. because   bitcoin wallet have strong security ..you always safe your private   key and don,t share any one . and you can always  use extra computer and mobile.
Hackers are always trying to do anything to steal valuables. their job is looking for security flaws and that is the work of hackers. The current case that often happens is fishing, it is equally dangerous because hackers can take all our bitcoin by using privatekey. be careful with your wallet and always bookmark or check back the address.
Hackers were around the network, it's our responsibility to be on the safer side enabling different security options available. If you go through the hacking history of bitcoin, you could find lots and lots of incidents were people and firms have lost big.
Almost transactions hacked by hacker are from transaction between exchanges, because exchanges easy to attack data base than Bitcoin network (or exact more is nobody can does that, lol Grin).
205  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Should I Choose Bitcoin ?? on: September 25, 2017, 04:45:21 AM
The main reason that I have chosen bitcoin because of the fact that it gives more return on per annum basis as compared to other real world assets like blue chip stocks or person to person lending. Also that bitcoin have pseudo anonymous transactions and I can save my assets anonymously, but this also comes with a problem that corrupt persons can also use bitcoin to hide their black money. And the third thing because of which I use bitcoin is that because of inflation of paper money the money that I have today will worth much less 10 years later, but it's not the same with bitcoin s it's price will definitely rise in the coming future.
If you want to keep a little amount of money in Bitcoin, it does not have any problem, but if you want to keep a big amount of money as ~1 billion dollars, you will have trouble and cannot pass over FBI when you try withdrawal Bitcoin to FIAT.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2017 and WHY !!! on: September 25, 2017, 04:42:41 AM
Best altcoins should be those, that are decentralized, stable and anonymous or one with innovative project behind it. For example monero, ZCash, GNT Electroneum or Solar Dao Coin.
what do you think about deep onion. it's focus on anonymous too. Cheesy People say it can over monero
Nope, I do not think an altcoin airdrop like Deep Onion can pass over Monero has a huge comminity from dark web. Although it has many functions intereresting, but Monero has confirmed is best coin for anonymous transaction.
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: List of ATTRACTIVE COINS !! on: September 24, 2017, 05:06:53 AM
XBL - low MC, low supply, and really good distributed tokens - proof of burn.   Easy 10x at current price

PIVX - zerocoin protocol about to release

XBY - posign blockchain consensus which makes it unique - static nodes sign the blocks. Also, this is a modular platform with the future of not depending on a specific programming language

ARK - Crosschain interesting project
PIVX is an altcoin clone from Dash and Zcoin, the zerocoin is protocol of Zcoin, it does not have permission to own this protocol. What do you think an altcoin use function from other altcoins have a good future? For me, I do not think it will be famous Grin.
208  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: September 24, 2017, 05:04:10 AM
Is Bitcoin dead?

Yes, it is 100% dead. You can no longer buy it, all exchanges got hacked last night and all Bitcoins stolen around the world.
Stop trolling around. That is not a good joke for the people who want to read some serious conversation in this thread or topic. Bitcoin is not dead and it is still alive and kicking in the market. Maybe there are news that makes bitcoin looks dead but in the reality, bitcoin will stay for a longer time and it will help other people to change their lives.
Bitcoin can be dead if the its community do not support it, but the reality no one does that haha. This thread just discuss about a future can happen in someday, because nothing is alive forever.
209  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why does China hate Bitcoin? on: September 24, 2017, 05:01:35 AM
I think china believe that bitcoins are use for money laundering. So to protect the dignity they ban bitcoins. There should be an other reason for banned.i think they want to stop local exchanges. It was a big business in china and i wonder why they are taking such steps. Huh


China may have reasons that other nations should not know for a reason.
and now we can only accept that China forbids the existence of Bitcoin, but I am still optimistic that bitcoin will continue to grow even if China forbids it
Nope, China does not ban Bitcoin, this country only banned the ICO market and some cryptocurrency exchanges (almost are small exchange or exchange has small volume). China not stupid when they ignore a huge profit from Bitcoin.
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Wow everything is down today!! on: September 24, 2017, 04:58:28 AM
What's the deal this time?  First China ICO ban and now what?  It's been a shitty few months for crypto!!  Is there any clear skies in sight or everything is just crashing and burning into the ground!!?
because china yesterday banned ico, and consequently all the market full of red,
but now it's green again, ethereum rise also put up good news
not just eth. many coin has comeback. okcash 30% is good sight. eth will reach 300$ soon
Haha, default price of Ethereum is $300 in this year, I am sure that! No reason can makes the price of Ethereum still under $300, specialy it will be change to PoS system soon, earn Ethereum from PoS wallet always good news for its community.
211  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: September 24, 2017, 04:56:46 AM
It depends on your salary reduced by the cost of your life, if it is deducted then the rest can you invest in bitcoin, or if you are still in doubt because the value of bitcoin that does not guarantee always go up, or don't want to take risks by investing all your money in 1 investment only, you can take 30-60% only for invest in bitcoin.
Yup don't take a risk with investing more in bitcoins. Let's divide your salary and how much you left in that take 20% or 30% of the money and buy bitcoins. Because the price of the bitcoin is not always stable at a high price. We are not sure when it will come down and when it will go up. So before investing only, you can save some money and rest of the money you can invest.
However, I think the future of Bitcoin will be famous and it not cheap in that time. Therefore, buy and hold Bitcoin when I have money to buy it is my choice. Although I will have trouble when I buy it with current price, but I do not think in future I will be a loser Smiley
212  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Sound Money? on: September 24, 2017, 04:54:58 AM
Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency and this is new definition about currency on the world. Most of the people think Bitcoin as a digital cash, but that mean does not right with the definition of Satoshi Nakamoto. I hope in short future, Bitcoin can create a revolution and changes the opinion of all people.
For me bitcoin is more than money, because I can spend it all over the world and can convert them into my fiat currency and can hold them in my blockchain wallet for the purpose to earn more and more money with the passage of time. So fiat money can only be spend directly in your local markets and not throughout the world, besides bitcoin can be used all over the world without any exchanging and can earn while trading in it.
Of course, that is the limit when you using FIAT on worldwide, although Dollar very common, but in some countries still do not accept it to be using daily, my country also do not use it. Therefore, with the function of Bitcoin, it can be become an international currency and better than FIAT many much.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: September 24, 2017, 04:51:00 AM
Doge is up over 20%. I was waiting for the final drop to buy some more, but it's alright if it keeps on rising now. Let's see how far it rises without the chinese.
Ifm it rises now and the chinese come back into the market we will see some nice profits.
Yeah - nice little rise today - I was travelling so didn't manage to pick up any extra at the bottom - but my regular orders were filled - its been quite a profitable day today in DOGEland
Sadly I missed to buy Doge when it dropped down to @20 sat for each. But what do you think about the trend of Doge coin today? Is a signal bullish trend comeback in Doge or just is a temporary pump trend of MLM groups?
214  Economy / Economics / Re: Maybe governments can stop bitcoin after all on: September 24, 2017, 04:48:50 AM
I don't care what the Chinese do with BTC, very large cryptocurrency community, they can only reduce part of the development of the BTC, but thanks to which every person is as known through the BTC news.
I believe BTC will develop and its price will increase after experiencing this crisis.
I really do not see any crisis ,the market behaves like usual,you cannot see a market that only goes up,there will be certain bumps in the road every now and then,there will be consolidation time and then another rally starts,so this recent negative market should not deter anyone,governments cannot stop bitcoin,they could regulate or stop a bitcoin exchange being running in their country but other than that they could not regulate the entire network.
In the fact, I like the market has ups and downs like now, I do not want the price of Bitcoin always increases and reach to moon price then dump to the hell. No one want that future happens, and me also one of them.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] STUFFGOGO| MOBILE eCOMMERCE PLATFORM WITH NO FEES OR RESTRICTIONS on: September 24, 2017, 04:42:31 AM
Hello dev where sgg token can be trade?
Have the sgg token into the market?
Im waiting to trade this coin.
Anyone know?

This token can be trade in etherdelta you can see yourself out there and trade your tokens all now, but i suggest that hold your SGG tokens because for sure the owner of this token will be going to surprise the participants of it Smiley
Actually the rate of buy order on EthereDelta exchange very low, if you want to sell your StuffGoGo token, you will "give a gift" to them, not mean is sell Grin. For me, I will keep my coin till it can be listed on exchange.
216  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I stop Buying BTC? on: September 24, 2017, 04:34:08 AM
Let me answer this question once and for all, you should never, ever stop buying Bitcoin!

Never, when you enter here in bitcoin there is no turning back simply because you will love to make money out of money and for me bitcoin is very profitable and a nice asset because i believe in the future of bitcoin and you should not stop accumulating bitcoin not unless you dont want to become rich.
No, just always remember that when you join in one business you were always take the risk. Why you should stop buying bitcoin this time? I think this is the perfect time to buy and invest, because since bitcoin value is declining they also a chance that this following days it will increase too. So don't stop buying bitcoin because I know that in the future they can give you an extra profit.
I really can not understand the opinion of traders on the market, they know the price of Bitcoin will increase in future, but they always doubt it when it stay at low price like now. Why? Although they have a good chance to buy Bitcoin, but why they still ignore it?
217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Pricing over 4K ,thinking about buying on: September 24, 2017, 04:25:46 AM
iam not buy if bitcoin price over 4000 dollar
i will wait bitcoin price down to 3000 dollar and then buyback again

its difficult to see bitcoin price down to $3000 although the chance is possible but it is a good idea to wait until the price is reach that range. but now i think it is a good time to buy bitcoin but we need to be careful when we see the market trend because we have short time until the end of this month to decide to buy now or later. but for me, i will wait until the next month because i am curious about what will happen after the chinese market is closed.
Today, buy Bitcoin still a good decisive if you really want to buy it at cheap price, if the price of Bitcoin can not falls down to $3,000 again, you will miss a chance to buy it around $3,xxx range price.
218  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin a good way to invest your money ? on: September 23, 2017, 05:25:01 AM
if the price of bitcoin is still rising.this is the good way to invest your money in bitcoin.instead put your money in bank.more profit in this bitcoin.

And when the price of bitcoin isn't rising and it keeps on falling that's the best time to invest. You know about trading, you should buy when the price is at dip and you can sell when the price increase. Saving your money in the bank only gives you security but there is no movement and big return in your money there. As you invest in bitcoin, you only need to save it and just wait for the price to pump.
Banks are not a good idea to preserve our money because they are not helping us to make our money grow they are just taking care of our money and using those into their own wants like investing those to make money in the stock market and every year we will just expect a small return which is around 1-3%.
In the past, the banks really best choice to keep our money and earn profit because it can helps us keep safe money + increases balance every day. But now, it can not compete to Gold, Real Estate or Bitcoin ... buy asset and for long term is the trend recently
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dash, Monero, Zcash Which Coins More Secure? on: September 23, 2017, 05:22:49 AM
Monero and Dash have the advantage of keeping all the personnal information hidden in any transaction. So those two are the more secure
This coins are in the road to hit in the market and to the users, since i belongs to the top 15 of coins market capitalization.
They have a huge potentials to compete others in front of them. More users and investors will go through this coins in the coming days.
Monero better than Dash coin, if you ask the dark web market what is coin they use for deal? They will choose Monero because it has many functions Bitcoin and other altcoins do not have. Cool
220  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin a road to 10k. on: September 23, 2017, 05:19:46 AM
I think if btc will have 2 mounts without fud we will see 10k

2 months? It is short in my opinion, we don't know when the price of bitcoin can reach $10k but for 2 months I really think it is not enough. And besides we are not even half of $10k, we can't endure and avoid those FUDs they are everywhere and they want to buy at dip so they'll spread some false news, false information and will change the real details from those countries that are having some regulations about bitcoin.

I believe around 2018 or end of 2018, that is if the upcoming hard fork of Bitcoin and implementation of segwit2x is a success.  This will open lots of development to Bitcoins and will address the problem of Bitcoin scaling that is one of the major problems that affects Bitcoin price.  Aside from that, if China is done with its hostilities and reopens its door to Bitcoin exchanges.  This happening can fuel Bitcoin price to break series of ATH until it reaches $10,000 per piece.
It does not need to wait long time like your said. On November of this year, we will see new fork in Bitcoin system and the price of Bitcoin will have many fluctuation. Maybe, it will drop down like other fork in the past.
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