And who won after all that bs? Faketoshi did. And who lost? Everybody else. I don't know why some people still even give him a platform. I guess he's like the level 1000000000 of scammers.
Didn't futures cause the slide and it just conviently coincidently happened the same day as the fork? |
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Comprehensive list of industrial and institutional interest in IOTA: http://iotaarchive.com/listing.htmlNote from site creator: There's now an alphabetically ordered list of all corporations and institutions that showed an interest in IOTA in addition to the previously available (chronological) news list.
The new alphabetical list comes with a handful of filters that can be applied and combined to drill down into 14 business verticals and six levels indicating the "involvement" (or "closeness") to the IOTA Foundation.
(Note that Filters can't be arranged as nicely on mobile devices - but they work fine on mobiles as well.)
Involvement level filters:
Independent development (= no publicly known connection to the IF, yet still publicly displayed interest in IOTA or even PoC's)
Direct contact to the Foundation (going beyond just shaking hands at e.g. public events but at least exclusive joint event organisation or common projects, also excluding alliance partner like e.g. MOBI or the Trusted IoT Alliance)
Data marketplace participants (naturally, DM participants are also in direct contact with the IOTA foundation but not necessarily the other way around)
Joint effort ( = officially working together with the IF on projects, research or PoCs)
Official collaboration ( = very close collaboration in an official manner, mostly based on a memorandum of understanding. no 'partnerships' as a legally incorporated foundation in Germany isn't easily allowed to have those)
Proof of concept ( = self explanatory)
A few core metrics:
--Since i started collecting sources of corporate and institutional interest ~4 months ago, the list grew from 162 entities to 280 entities
The news section now contains ~400 official references to corporate, industrial, institutional interest from these 280 entities. And it's growing nearly exponential.
--The archive also contains 32 entities that are known to have built a PoC's based on IOTA
--It also ontains 64 entities that expressed interest in IOTA while there is no known contact to the IOTA Foundation, that might indicate a growing ripple effect going beyond the reach of personal connections
--The combined annual revenue of all entities in the iotaarchive currently exceeds ~$4.4 trillion (note that i was only able to find sources for revenue for a third of all companies in the archive; for entities in direct contact with the IF it is ~$4.1 trillion, for the ones working with the IF on joint projects it is ~$1.26 trillion, for the ones officially collaborating with the IF is ~$734 billion)
--Top5 industries by amount of known interest are 'IT' (56 entities), 'Energy' (32 entities), 'Mobility' (26 entities), 'Infrastructure' (26 entities), 'Electronics' (16 entities)
--Talking about transparency and updating the IOTA community: The IF published 264 updates on their blog since end of 2015. That's one update every ~4 days.
--With a growing employee base of the IF, publications increased heavily: Within the last 6 months, 100 articles have been published (= 1 update every 1,8 days) Original can be found here and a has few more details on how the list is put together: https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/9zc748/iotaarchivecom_update_of_iota_collaborations_pocs/ea7yh8q/ |
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Although last days at least to me looked like Monero is losing more then other coins, it seems reality is still old same.  Who cares? The only coin I see on that list that I wish I held off the ATH is tether--and even that makes me wonder, "How the fuck do you lose 25% when your value is pegged to $1?" |
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^ In crypto it's more like a guy bought some coins at the top or near it, then price went down (so he's stuck), now he's making it his life's mission to troll that coin's community to give him some sort of relief from the pain. Lmao!
So it's just displacing blame? Instead of admitting you were a moron for getting into the market at a 10x the ATH, you bemoan the whole industry as if free markets didn't allow you to make dumb choices? If so, owning it would at the very least allow you to adjust your tactics/strategy and make the best of a bad situation. It's not like stop-losses or dollar-cost-averaging are concepts that haven't been well known for ages to stock market investors. Admitedly everyone goes through their nooby and/or dunning kruger stage, but that doesn't mean you just keep banging your head on the rafters without going, "Hey, maybe there's more to this than rushing into the room and hoping for the best..." |
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sell before its too late, this shitcoin is going back under $10.
That would mean the whole market tanks, which makes coin A as worthless as coin B--so unless you have another form of digital cash that doesn't exist in crypto, I'm not buying what you're selling. Do you have quantum money for sale? sold all my crypto this whole thing is just a giant scam, get out before its too late. But yet, you are still here Could you imagine how sad your life would have to be to get out of something, and then weeks, months, years later, still be commenting on a forum about it? "Yes, I quit video gaming months ago, but here's my comment on what a waste of time it is..." |
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I always thought that Monroe could win many currencies that tried to create anonymous decentralized networks, but now I understand that there are too many of them. What now to do and which network is better to choose?
What did change your mind? what happened lately? Transactions sizes and fees reduced by factor 10. Was that it? BEcause peopel are paying less to transact. Is that what change your mind that Monero is not the Chosen one? Go to his profile and read the latest posts for an eye opener on someone ekeing out pennies from a sig campaign. It's like one two-sentence post a minute. It's a good bot or sad person. |
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sell before its too late, this shitcoin is going back under $10.
That would mean the whole market tanks, which makes coin A as worthless as coin B--so unless you have another form of digital cash that doesn't exist in crypto, I'm not buying what you're selling. Do you have quantum money for sale? |
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I could not stand this fall and sold all my Monero, it seems to me that I did the right thing because the market is very stormy. I got out of many coins when I fall even lower then I will buy back.
Yeah? Ten bucks (ok 1 xmr) says you won't be able to buy as many back at a lower price. Been there done that man... always hodl your XMR, they are priceless!  Concur, this strategy never works longterm. You always get burnt on a spike that doesn't drop. That HPW dude or bot made like 12 negative posts on 12 different coin's speculation threads in 5 minute timespam--wouldn't take anything he/it said at face value. |
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Amazingly, I think at least a little bit of Monero's slump today is due to what seems to be a bit of FUD executed by FAKESATOSHI. https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus/status/1061229656081350656 He also took shots specifically at Monero in his recent interview with Tone Vays. The interview is *somehwt* interesting as it discusses the upcoming BCHABC BCHSV fork which should be pretty interesting IMO.. But here is the Monero/Privicy coin section. https://youtu.be/ACEUOCoVvmw?t=3564So the guy who can't prove he's Satoshi is going to prove who everyone else is? I'm wondering what a psychoanalyst would make of that... On a practical note, those 3 systems work in very different ways, so wouldn't he need 3 separate mechanisms for analysis? I guess we'll have to wait the year out biting our nails in feverish anticipation for doom's day or purchase whatever is sure to be the "better" solution. Crypto has anhilated my faith in mankind's motives--which isn't a bad thing, just makes me long for my youthful ignorance. |
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hi guys, on the digital age, privacy is more than something we need, it is a right... most people still didn't realize that privacy is fundamental for human society. On old times, people close the curtains, or build walls... but nowadays we need VPN's and private transactions... I would choose monero due to its solidity and policy  Well, we all know some things are our right, but we also have to understand that as much as you see it as a right, that is one thing that can easily be abused by some, which is one of the reasons why I would not actually be putting my mind too much into any privacy coin in the long term, knowing that this is something that would be hard for government to allow. Unless we do not want to be truthful to ourselves, there are some things that would always affect the growth of certain coins like this in the long run, most especially when they are being used in the dark world and it is calling for concerns. Good money does bad things--always has and always will. If what you're using can't be used by a drug dealer as well as foreign dissident afraid his or her totalitarian government, then it's not cash. This isn't complex. |
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IOTA has its own blockchain and also in the beta stage. There are lots of developments are remaining yet. So, holding the coin is beneficial in the future like the Ethereum.
I don't understand why we should hold if there are "lots of developments remaining yet"? If you are right it's a mistake to hold IOTA at this moment. Yeah, you should always wait until those things are finished and the market hits maximum fomo--that way you are sure to minimize your return...wait... |
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^ Wtf. Lol. scale of testing != best implementation
The bug recently found underscores that even BTC, with its obvious limitations, isn't flawless or vetted enough. Also, there's the well-known fact, at least in this neck of the woods, that Bitcoin's aim to be an "eletronic cash" hasn't panned out.
If you had one job to do and couldn't do it, would you consider yourself the best?
I tend to fall on the small block (at least for now) side of that argument, and believe bitcoin will find it's way in the end. Montero does an interesting job of pointing to a lot of possible solutions though... Yup and I tend to agree with the 'if you wanna scale, you should go off chain' argument. I think some Montereans would tend to agree too. And generalizethis, Monero had its share of flaws too. But fungibility isn't one. I'm talking about the stated goal of being "electronic cash," which has been kick the can down the road problem for years with add on features that never address the issue head on. If anyone thinks that BTC will become cash in the next year, I'll take their bet. |
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In the absence of a black swan event - and ten years after the white paper it doesn't look like we will see one - there is only one conclusion you can make.
By this criterion, we can expect Bitcoin to survive about 10 years. Taleb mentions, if I recall correctly, the term "at least" / "minimum" for non-perishable stuff. Thus, following the Lindy effect, a non-perishable good that has existed for 10 years is expected to at least exist another 10 years. Now, I suppose Bitcoin is technically an implementation of something non-perishable, which somewhat weakens the Lindy effect. But we should also consider that BTC is still the best implementation of a cryptocurrency. And if there was something that's gonna outlive every coin in the space, it's still gonna be BTC imho. The rest haven't really been tested at the same scale that BTC has. scale of testing != best implementation The bug recently found underscores that even BTC, with its obvious limitations, isn't flawless or vetted enough. Also, there's the well-known fact, at least in this neck of the woods, that Bitcoin's aim to be an "eletronic cash" hasn't panned out. If you had one job to do and couldn't do it, would you consider yourself the best? |
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