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61  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 10, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
Is this normal to not show any lower bids?



Bitcoin Wisdom is just generally fucked and never reports the right volumes.

a) btcwisdom truncates the order book, for speed reasons as the owner says. seeing that his site is usually up during heavy trading days when the others go down, i'm inclined to follow his logic.

b) the way the order book information is displayed is unintuitive at first maybe, but before claiming it's all wrong, first understand how prices are grouped. explanation is in the btcwisdom thread in the service subforum.

c) never heard of volume being wrong. quick check matches volume shown on tradingview. care to find some evidence for your claim?

I'm the one claiming lot's of data that bitcoinwisdom is showing is fucked up:

MACD numbers are wrong, they do not match tradingview (and my own calculations at all).

Volumes are correct if you refresh the page, but if you keep it open for a couple of hours (without internet connection loss obv). It'll start showing some real messed up volumes for the past couple of candles. If you refresh the page after that the volumes will be correct again.

What seems to be correct however is:
Price, Orderbook

In the end I got tired of websites showing me wrong data, I wrote my own (private).

If you are looking for a better site tho, I can suggest tradingview (as far as I checked their numbers are correct).

Didn't know about the volume error when not refreshing page. Sounds plausible, but seems benign to me if it's solved with a reload.

Re: MACD. Did you account for different MACD parameters? Both tradingview and btcwisdom allow you to set your own parameters, which in case of tradingview includes price source itself.
According to to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACD or http://stockcharts.com/help/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:moving_average_conve

MACD formula is

MACD = [stockPrices,12]EMA - [stockPrices,26]EMA
signal = [MACD,9]EMA
histogram = MACD – signal

Standard MACD uses EMA to calculate signal. Trading View uses Simple MA to calculate by default, If uncheck tradingview's MACD option "Simple MA(Signal Line)", the chart will be same.

The formula you describe is correct however your results aren't. The argument you make about tradingview I knew about so I made sure I compared apples with apples (I'm no fool):

TradingView MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:

-1.17

BitcoinWisdom MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:


-2.2

Bitcoincharts.com MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:


You can't hover over the Histogram to be sure, but it looks close to 1.2 (the same as TradingView has)
I see. I fogot when I write the formula make histogram twice to make the indicator more readable so the formula I used is histogram = 2*(MACD – signal) for histogram, and  when compared with trading view before, I checked all value except histogram. I have not decided to make the MACD follow standard or keep it more readable. but the trends is correct.

Correct Values > Readability!
62  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.999 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 10, 2014, 03:25:17 PM
How long does it take to receive an order in Europe?

About 3 days, depending on your location.

Wow that's fast, thanks!
63  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.999 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 10, 2014, 03:25:07 PM
Thank you Bitmain for the reply,

I will now wait for the S2, thank you for the details about the miner.

For my business I will also order S1 but the S2 SOUNDS AMAZING

Thank you

What details are known about the S2?
64  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 10, 2014, 03:09:29 PM
Is this normal to not show any lower bids?




Bitcoin Wisdom is just generally fucked and never reports the right volumes.

a) btcwisdom truncates the order book, for speed reasons as the owner says. seeing that his site is usually up during heavy trading days when the others go down, i'm inclined to follow his logic.

b) the way the order book information is displayed is unintuitive at first maybe, but before claiming it's all wrong, first understand how prices are grouped. explanation is in the btcwisdom thread in the service subforum.

c) never heard of volume being wrong. quick check matches volume shown on tradingview. care to find some evidence for your claim?

I'm the one claiming lot's of data that bitcoinwisdom is showing is fucked up:

MACD numbers are wrong, they do not match tradingview (and my own calculations at all).

Volumes are correct if you refresh the page, but if you keep it open for a couple of hours (without internet connection loss obv). It'll start showing some real messed up volumes for the past couple of candles. If you refresh the page after that the volumes will be correct again.

What seems to be correct however is:
Price, Orderbook

In the end I got tired of websites showing me wrong data, I wrote my own (private).

If you are looking for a better site tho, I can suggest tradingview (as far as I checked their numbers are correct).

Didn't know about the volume error when not refreshing page. Sounds plausible, but seems benign to me if it's solved with a reload.

Re: MACD. Did you account for different MACD parameters? Both tradingview and btcwisdom allow you to set your own parameters, which in case of tradingview includes price source itself.
According to to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACD or http://stockcharts.com/help/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:moving_average_conve

MACD formula is

MACD = [stockPrices,12]EMA - [stockPrices,26]EMA
signal = [MACD,9]EMA
histogram = MACD – signal

Standard MACD uses EMA to calculate signal. Trading View uses Simple MA to calculate by default, If uncheck tradingview's MACD option "Simple MA(Signal Line)", the chart will be same.

The formula you describe is correct however your results aren't. The argument you make about tradingview I knew about so I made sure I compared apples with apples (I'm no fool):

TradingView MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:



-1.17

BitcoinWisdom MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:



-2.2

Bitcoincharts.com MACD Histogram Previous 30 Minutes:



You can't hover over the Histogram to be sure, but it looks close to 1.2 (the same as TradingView has)
65  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.999 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 10, 2014, 03:01:41 PM
How long does it take to receive an order in Europe?
66  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: HeatherAI - Automatic Cryptocurrency Trading Bots - 3 free review copies on: March 10, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
Sent you a PM, please take me into consideration for a review copy. I have plenty of experience with Algo Trading!

Edit: Just as a reminder guys, make sure to run this bot on an isolated environment, no-one has vouched for this bot yet and it might as well be a wallet snatcher.
67  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 10, 2014, 12:53:37 PM

*SNIP TO AVOID SPAM*

Didn't know about the volume error when not refreshing page. Sounds plausible, but seems benign to me if it's solved with a reload.

Re: MACD. Did you account for different MACD parameters? Both tradingview and btcwisdom allow you to set your own parameters, which in case of tradingview includes price source itself.

Yes I did :-). I'm pretty sure it's a real issue.
68  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 10, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
Is this normal to not show any lower bids?




Bitcoin Wisdom is just generally fucked and never reports the right volumes.

a) btcwisdom truncates the order book, for speed reasons as the owner says. seeing that his site is usually up during heavy trading days when the others go down, i'm inclined to follow his logic.

b) the way the order book information is displayed is unintuitive at first maybe, but before claiming it's all wrong, first understand how prices are grouped. explanation is in the btcwisdom thread in the service subforum.

c) never heard of volume being wrong. quick check matches volume shown on tradingview. care to find some evidence for your claim?

I'm the one claiming lot's of data that bitcoinwisdom is showing is fucked up:

MACD numbers are wrong, they do not match tradingview (and my own calculations at all).

Volumes are correct if you refresh the page, but if you keep it open for a couple of hours (without internet connection loss obv). It'll start showing some real messed up volumes for the past couple of candles. If you refresh the page after that the volumes will be correct again.

What seems to be correct however is:
Price, Orderbook

In the end I got tired of websites showing me wrong data, I wrote my own (private).

If you are looking for a better site tho, I can suggest tradingview (as far as I checked their numbers are correct).
69  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 10, 2014, 10:17:42 AM
Is this normal to not show any lower bids?




Bitcoin Wisdom is just generally fucked and never reports the right volumes.

Ah finally someone else that realizes Smiley.
Order book is wrong
Volumes are wrong
MACD calculation: FUBAR

Bitcoinwisdom is fun and all but don't trust those numbers!

They do have a great charting library tho, I wish I had that.
70  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 07, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
Thanks to your "to tha moon" BS I also get in panic and bought @685 with every money I had (50K). And now I´m fucked.

That's some top notch trading you did. Excelsior!

Agreed, that's just fucking dumb. You make trading decisions based on the BS in this topic? xD
71  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 05, 2014, 02:53:23 PM
Ok so the last hour i did some reading on random news sites and forums etc.
I've seen some hate against Bitcoin in the past but the stuff i read today! It looks like everybody who doesn't actually own any coins hates it! And not just hates it but is absolutely totally digusted by it! Like Bitcoin just killed their dog or something. I don't think i've seen such almost global hate and disgust towards something on the internet ever before.
People want to see it burn! They want to see Bitcoin and Bitcoin users burn in hell!
Oh and like most here already realized, many of those people think Gox = Bitcoin and Bitcoin just broke down. Bitcoin is bankrupt. And they LOVE it! They act like it's the best thing that ever happened on the internet.
The fact that 1 coin is worth 660 dollars doesn't mean anything it seems. Bitcoin is dead and WE ALL lost our money and totally deserved it.

I'm actually a bit shocked. I knew it was bad but this bad?

What do you expect honestly? Of course a big part of the population is jelly because hey didn't get in and they'll keep on trolling till they get cheap coins or till most of us lost everything we have earned.

It's basic herd psychology man!

Edit: Wonder if you are going to read this or if you still have me on ignore because I told you how useless your "source?" posts were.
72  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] Node JS Pool Server (0.5 BTC) on: March 04, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
Currently im developing mining pool in node js... soon i will publish it to github..
working function :
getwork
getaccount
acceptwork
checkwork
getblockcount

and some basic node functional..
TODO :
Threading, Pooling , submitblock, getblocktemplate, etc..


Oh wow I forgot about my topic, but that would be awesome to see what you come up with.
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
CCMF!!!
74  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 04:01:13 PM
I do not understand this mindset that people get in when they see a rising price or a reversal, that all the sudden it has to reach an even higher level on the same day, and then an even higher level tomorrow, breaking every known resistance on the chart. "It's going to go all the way $XXX!!!". Why? They think that once the reversal is in, all the work is done and we might as well go to ATH right away and skip the whole recovery part. Like everyone was just waiting for the go signal and now they're ready to buy back every coin on the book at any price. People get caught up in this emotional exuberance that has nothing to do with actual trading trends.

You're right, but looking at the 3D MACD has little to no meaning. the 1D has become positive and I believe were going to see an extended uptrend coupled with a bunch of resistance areas ofc.
75  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 03:46:31 PM
Wow this is epic, we broke out of a very long downward channel in a significant way. This is some serious CCMF material!
could be ... it needs a bit more confirmation to be sure, though.
retracement just started, let's see if the 1k wall at 620 stays there or is pulled quickly.

Agreed, I'm a bit quick with my statement but if the break holds, it's party time :-).
76  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 03:41:12 PM
Wow this is epic, we broke out of a very long downward channel in a significant way. This is some serious CCMF material!
77  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
Actually those pictures won't screw you over at the office. Bitcointalk proxies them, and most offices just look at offending domains.

And that stops the boss seeing from the other side of the office how exactly ?

If you have your boss staring at you 24/7 yeah then that won't help you. But is he OK with you checking bitcointalk.org all the time then?
78  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 03, 2014, 11:54:01 AM
Actually those pictures won't screw you over at the office. Bitcointalk proxies them, and most offices just look at offending domains.
79  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2014, 03:18:39 PM


Solid!
80  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 27, 2014, 10:40:14 AM
Rocket primed, last chances to get in. Chart is clear as day... triangle closing...
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