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601  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is all what they say about bitcoin true? on: August 08, 2023, 09:44:24 AM
In a thread someone said "Bitcoin is not all about happiness" can a little more light be thrown on this?
Yes, maybe Bitcoin is not about happiness for those who have failed in Bitcoin investment. Your own happiness creates it, depending on which way you feel happy. We have found joy and freedom while interacting with Bitcoin. When you can't find happiness from Bitcoin, it means you don't understand the real Bitcoin enough and have never made anything of value out of Bitcoin.
602  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is for everybody but we must accept it before it can be ours. on: August 08, 2023, 06:10:08 AM
Bitcoin holds something positive in it, for that reason the majority of people in parts of the world accept Bitcoin as an inseparable part of their lives. For me Bitcoin has become a necessity, Bitcoin has had a positive impact on my life. Since getting to know Bitcoin, I have received several benefits that I have never gotten in fiat money, ease of transactions in buying and selling goods and services and increasing the economy from the profits I get from investments.

People who deny the presence of Bitcoin in their lives are too naive in assessing Bitcoin, they know Bitcoin usually gives them unlimited profits, but they think Bitcoin is not in the same playing field as the stock market or institutional investment. Although some people are still closed to Bitcoin, it does not mean that Bitcoin will collapse, Bitcoin will still stand tall and will reach a market capitalization of trillions of dollars in the future.

603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I lost my life savings trading Bitcoin Don't be like me. on: August 08, 2023, 05:45:39 AM
Hi friends, loss is not the end of everything, you are not the first person to experience this incident, out there there are still many people who have experienced losses due to investing without knowledge. Never give up, make this bitter experience the most valuable lesson in your life.

You still have a chance to take all the money you just spent trading Bitcoin due to lack of knowledge. The next step you need to find more information on how Bitcoin works and try to increase knowledge in Bitcoin trading. Failure is delayed success, you still have a chance to achieve success after learning from the mistakes you have made in the past.
604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 07, 2023, 12:43:47 PM
Courtois is among the potential goalkeepers in Europe, and he has proven to them in so many ways to helped his team to lift many titles since he joined the team, and he is still ready to help the team to embrace this la Liga league title this season. I think,  Real Madrid will going to miss him when his contract expire because he will like to join Saudi Arabia club where he will be receiving huge amount of money, because their clubs are paying more than Europa league. Now that many potential players and goalkeepers are accepting offers from Saudi Arabia club based on the big money involved, show that courtois will like to join soon so that he will be part of those that will enjoy the benefits attached to it.
Courtois still has a high interest in continuing to play with Madrid and he is likely to turn down offers from anywhere including the Saudi Arabian Club, he could just give him time to finish his job for a few more seasons. Because Madrid still needs his services so far there hasn't even been a goalkeeper equal to Courtois. Courtois is not the type of person who is high on salary but it is undeniable that money is still money that anyone needs, especially with high offers. The Saudi Arabian club could still get Courtois if they waited patiently because for this much-needed season, Madrid will in no way let him go.
Real Madrid who are trying to improve their squad after they failed last season will not accept offers from any club to take Courtois away from them. Courtois' services are still needed by Real Madrid to guard their crossbar, an offer from an Arab league club is certainly very tempting for any player, moreover he will receive a salary many times what he gets at Real Madrid. Courtois has had to put aside the chance of a high salary even though it is urgently needed, he still has the chance to play in the Arab League after achieving success with Real Madrid.
605  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [DISKUSI] Hukum Zakat Bitcoin on: August 07, 2023, 09:51:39 AM
Kan, namanya bayar zakat tidak mesti di dalam negeri tah, bisa juga di luar negeri, Karena menurut saya Islam itu global, bukan hanya untuk Indonesia.
Saya setuju dengan pendapat anda, Islam itu global, artinya semua yang beragama Islam mengesakan Allah.
Mengenai membayar zakat perlu merujuk pada ijtima' ulama, mayoritas ulama berpendapat zakat harus dikeluarkan di tempat mencari nafkah. Dalam kitab Asnal Matholib Syarh Rowdahuth Tholibin disebutkan mengenai zakat maal (Bitcoin termasuk dalam zakat maal/zakat harta), zakat yang sudah mencapai hisab harus dikeluarkan di tempat dimana harta tersebut berada.

Boleh memindahkan zakat dari suatu negeri ke negeri lain jika membawa maslahat, maksudnya jika Om (yang mengeluarkan zakat) mempunyai sanak keluarga yang berhak menerima zakat di daerah lain dan zakat itu dikirim kepada mereka, maka hukumnya boleh kerena alasan kekeluargaan memiliki keutamaan, dengan alasan tersebut maka gugurlah kewajiban zakat Om. Sama seperti Arab Saudi atau daerah lain yang standar hidupnya di negeri tersebut diatas rata-rata, maka boleh mengirim zakat ke negeri lain yang lebih miskin.

Kesimpulannya diperbolehkan memindahkan zakat dari suatu negeri ke negeri lain selama ada maslahat di dalamnya, tetapi jika tidak ada kemaslahatan sebaiknya tidak perlu dipindahkan.

Referensi tentang memindahkan zakat dari suatu daerah ke daerah lain.
https://baitulmal.acehprov.go.id/post/bolehkah-membayar-zakat-di-luar-domisili-muzaki


606  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you rather start/grow a business from scratch or buy an existing business? on: August 07, 2023, 08:45:43 AM
I don't really have much to say as regards to this post. It is just an avenue to hear your thoughts on which is better to invest both time, energy and resources in, mostly for a season as this, where we are experiencing economic uncertainty and ill-timed government banking policies.

So, given that the resources are available or not and you are presented with the opportunity to start/grow or buy an existing business just like Elon Musk, which option is more preferential and benefitial to you?
Buying a business is not as easy as one might imagine, it takes careful mining before deciding to buy a business, especially when the business to be bought involves something new like Elon Musk buying Twitter. You need strong relationships and financial support to develop the business you just bought. You can buy any business with money, but it will be difficult to develop it if you don't know the knowledge in the business you just bought.

The best way to start a business, you have to build a business from 0, then you can develop your business slowly. Don't be easily tempted by instant ones, it might make you fall to the bottom as a result of not being able to develop the business you bought.
607  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of Farming. on: August 07, 2023, 08:30:53 AM
Land is becoming lesser and not very available for agriculture as before, There is a lot of Urbanization going on and many land space are being built on to carter for the increasing number of persons. There will be lesser organic foods available for consumption as the worlds population increase and farming space reduces. Because of this, there now has to be an improvement in farming methods and I personally consider vertical Farming to be the future of organic food farming.

In vertical farming, Plants are grown in stacked layers under controlled conditions like green house farming.
In vertical farming,
urbanization has become a tradition for people around the world who want to change their fate in urban areas, the more people there are in urban areas, the less available vacant land will be. Agricultural space is still very wide in rural areas, people in urban areas can bring organic food from agricultural products in rural areas.
The community's economy will increase when the demand for organic food increases, farmers are increasingly active in growing crops that can be consumed as staple food. Vertical Agriculture will never be able to achieve the targets needed by people in urban areas, it needs a supply of organic food reserves that must be imported from the countryside or even the government must adopt a policy of importing food from other countries.
608  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did Bitcoin Bring a Smile to Your Face? How Did You Make It Happen? on: August 07, 2023, 08:02:48 AM
Testimony of the success of Bitcoin investors shared through various social media has become an inspiration for others who previously did not know about Bitcoin to want to learn about Bitcoin. I think you are also inspired by the success of other people who have managed to change their lives after getting involved in Bitcoin investing.
No need to quit your job to get involved or deepen your knowledge of Bitcoin, you can still learn about Bitcoin while doing your usual routine. Bitcoin doesn't require you to only focus on one area, you can do time management to do several routines at once without stopping from the main job.
609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 06, 2023, 03:51:31 PM
Getting the Champions League title is not as easy as other domestic leagues, the Champions League is a collection of great teams all over Europe so it will not be easy for Barcelona to achieve that dream even though they have brought their team to a great performance.

The Champions League has a different sensation and the mentality of coaches and players is still influential if they do not have deep experience in the UCL, I believe Barcelona this time will be better to go to UCL even though the previous season could only stop at the group stage.

Every coach's dream is to win UCL. For this, the economic strength of the team is also very important. Not every team, only one team can achieve this. Last year, Manchester City looked like an excellent team and they won the UCL. It's been a great season for Pep and we can see similar things happen this year. They will have tough opponents and UCL will again be the most watched tournament.
Strong clubs in the Champions League on average have a strong economy that supports teams to bring in quality players, it is easier for coaches to bring in the players they want because of strong economic support. Manchester City have proven that their economic power is able to improve the quality of the team by bringing in classy players. Guardiola's effect was also very influential in Manchester City's success last season, he who has experience winning the UCL trophy with Barcelona was able to develop the players that Manchester City has to achieve historic success for the club. This season there will be more tough opponents in the UCL, Manchester City will have difficulty defending the UCL trophy if they are not consistent in maintaining the quality of their games.
610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 06, 2023, 03:35:09 PM
Manchester United have added some new players to the squad. As a result, this team can do something amazing this season. But I personally still see a lack of a striker at Manchester United.
Manchester United is one of the busiest teams in the transfer market to strengthen the team ahead of the new season, several players have been brought in to improve the team's performance to compete in the Premier League and UCL. Manchester United have made up for their shortfall in the striker position, the arrival of Rasmus Hojlund will be a solution on the front line for Manchester United, which has so far lacked banging power.

Ten Hag is still trying to form a stronger Manchester United squad, their target is to win the Premier League trophy and survive further in the Champions League. The new strength that was formed was Ten Hag's seriousness in making changes to the Manchester United squad, his wish to receive a positive response from club officials who had long wanted to rearrange Manchester United after failing with several previous coaches.
611  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Empowering youths can be the quickest route to crypto adoption on: August 06, 2023, 02:29:38 PM
The Crypto community will form naturally through new people around and acquaintances on social media. They will campaign Bitcoin by word of mouth and stories on social media based on the profits they have achieved. People's awareness of Bitcoin is growing every time there are people around who often talk about Bitcoin every time they meet, their openness in talking about Bitcoin will encourage other people to get involved in it.

People have accidentally promoted it without them knowing it, the news that was published in several print and electronic media really helped spread public awareness to get involved in Bitcoin. Just like you who have long joined forums, when your friends want to learn to get involved in Bitcoin, you will direct them here to deepen their knowledge of Bitcoin.
612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bold step to invest my fiat in Bitcoin on: August 06, 2023, 02:12:01 PM
Everyone who joins here is still in the process of learning based on their level of knowledge, being among those who already have some knowledge of Bitcoin will help increase your knowledge of Bitcoin. I am happy to hear that you have got your first Bitcoin, your bold move to do something new is very appropriate, Bitcoin will benefit you if you know how to manage it well.

Keep in mind, Bitcoin does not only offer advantages and convenience in making transactions on a large or small scale, there are risks that you need to avoid to keep Bitcoin safe. Fluctuating Bitcoin prices require you to put forward patience when market conditions are uncertain, save your Bitcoins until the bullish period returns to dominate the market.
613  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A advise to my friend about his decision on: August 06, 2023, 01:53:54 PM
Somehow someone wants to pass Bitcoin on to their child without teaching them first, I think this is the wrong decision and will be a gap in the distribution of inheritance because the recipient does not understand a bit about Bitcoin. When the attorney reads out the will whether the sheed phrase/private key is also attached as the only way to access the inherited wallet, then what if the attorney knows how to access the wallet and then transfers some of the Bitcoin in the wallet.

I also don't know how deep your knowledge (as a Newbie in this forum) is about Bitcoin so you have the courage to teach your friend. I don't know if this story is true or fictitious, but there is a very important message in your story that other Members can learn from. Before deciding to bequeath Bitcoin to heirs, it is necessary to educate them about Bitcoin so that there is no confusion for heirs when the will is read.
614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: August 05, 2023, 03:43:17 PM
Their search for the new striker is going on but sadly right now they are not able to secure Mbappé because they have no enough funds for this transfer even we all understand this transfer can bring big booster for them, and they can go hot favorite for the double again because their quality and performance is impressive but after exit of Karim Benzema they are missing goal's conversation trick which is not filling.

Mostly we were feeling Harry Kane and Kylian Mbappé are under their radar, but sadly both are not in their finances range with no other quality option available which is also a problem. As things are going right now if something special happen then surely this could be one of the best for them but most chances they have to wait for the next season to bring things on their track chances of going into top is hard but still achievable.
Actually, Real Madrid still needs Benzema in their squad, the club has tried to keep Benzema with a new one-year contract offer. But before a new agreement was made between Benzema and Real Madrid, an offer from Al-Ittihad came, Benzema could not refuse this offer because Al-Ittihad brought a proposal with a fantastic salary offer. The salary offered by Al-Ittihad is, of course, many times higher than that received at Real Madrid, this opportunity is certainly not wasted by Benzema, especially as he is almost retired.

Benzema departure has left a big hole in the position of Real Madrid striker, until now Real Madrid has not found a suitable replacement to fill Benzema position. Joselu was only used as a temporary alternative considering that Real Madrid brought him on loan. Real Madrid needs to move faster to find a talented striker before the season starts. The results obtained by Real Madrid in friendly matches do not guarantee that Real Madrid will be able to compete in the Champions League and La Liga. Besides having to bring in a striker, Real Madrid will need to rearrange their defense.


615  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I Use Emergency funds or Sell my Assets ? on: August 05, 2023, 02:48:57 PM
I reluctantly followed the counsel of a financial advisor to fix my finances in order by creating a budget and tracking my expenses, inflow and outflow of cash using an excel sheet. The economy has been crazy in my country so I needed to do something urgently. My greatest realization after this is that inflation all round is destroying my budget. It's been  five months now. I am torn between using my emergency funds or selling some of my assets to cushion the effect of this economic situation. What do you suggest I do?
Is the emergency fund you mean in fiat? If so, you can use fiat to cushion the impact of the economic situation you are currently experiencing. Fiat is never resistant to inflation, keeping Fiat in the midst of uncertain economic conditions will have a negative impact on the amount of money you have because of its reduced value.

You can develop an emergency fund in the form of Fiat to maintain your financial stability, start doing something to form the Money formula to make money. If the asset that you hold is currently in the form of Bitcoin, then defend the asset that you hold even if you are in financial trouble. Look for money from other sources to finance your life, selling Bitcoin at this point will make you regret it when the price has increased.
616  Economy / Economics / Re: Im owner of wealth club and here is my forecast about global economy on: August 05, 2023, 02:30:40 PM
Need valid data to strengthen your estimate on the euro, your assumptions are too far about the conditions that will befall the euro. your research needs strong sources and comparisons based on past cycles. Even if the euro weakens as you would expect, there is no guarantee that the number of tourists traveling there will increase. The government will not remain silent with the conditions that have befallen their currency, of course there will be actions taken to increase the euro exchange rate.
Those of us who left comments here have read every phrase you wrote in the Op, the conclusion from your writing is only that the weakening of the euro can attract tourists to visit Europe.
617  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: August 05, 2023, 01:40:05 PM
Pengumuman khusus untuk semua peserta Signature Campaign Roobet.com. Hhampuz meminta peserta signature campaign Roobet.com segera memperbaharui Tangan dan Avatar baru.
Anda bisa mendapatkan set kode tanda tangan terbaru disini.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233355.msg62650469#msg62650469
618  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Alasan Untuk Tidak Trading Uang Pinjam on: August 05, 2023, 09:20:36 AM
Sebenarnya ini menjadi cara terbaik untuk belajar trading bagi pemula, uang pribadi yang tidak digunakan untuk kebutuhan lain bisa digunakan untuk modal awal trading, tidak ada masalah psikologi yang ditimbulkan jika loss karena tidak ada beban sama sekali dari kehilangan uang tersebut. -snip-

Kalau dipikir-pikir, loss ini dapat diminimalisir dengan menjalankan strategi hold pada koin yang sudah di beli(ini solusi terbaik menurut saya). Kenapa, dengan tidak adanya beban untuk membayar pinjaman, saat melihat aset turun, cukup dipindahkan ke wallet sendiri dan dijual ketika masa bullish datang. Tapi, ini akan lebih membutuhkan psikologi yang lebih tenang, karena pasar bearish memakan waktu yang lama.
Tentu saja solusi terbaik adalah Hold saat dihadapkan pada kondisi ini apalagi tidak ada beban psikologi akibat aset nyangkut karena uang yang digunakan tidak terkait dengan pihak lain. Menurut saya (jika saran ini untuk Newbie) harus memilih koin yang sudah terbukti bertahan di pasar atau yang memiliki fundamental kuat, jenis koin ini tidak akan terlalu lama nyangkut jika pasar sedang bearish.

Dulu saya pernah mencoba berinvestasi di koin yang sudah listing di indodax saat itu masih menggunakan nama Bitcoin Indonesia (Bitcoin.co.id). Saya tidak tahu koin tersebut sedang berada di harga tinggi "maklum masih baru memulai di bidang crypto", setelah itu harganya berangsur-angsur turun hingga ke titik terendah. Saya mencoba bertahan (Hold) dengan harapan bisa dijual saat bullish datang, setelah bertahan dalam waktu yang lama bullish tidak pernah datang, untungnya saat itu saya menggunakan uang dingin jadi tidak ada efek yang memberatkan pikiran meski saya sudah lost besar.

Pengalaman ini telah membentuk karakter saya dalam berinvestasi di aset crypto, sampai saat ini saya selalu berprinsip koin fundamental kuat lebih menjamin keselamatan aset daripada berjudi di koin baru atau koin yang fundamental lemah.
619  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [Untuk Newbie] Perhatikan Ini Sebelum Invest Di Meme Token on: August 05, 2023, 09:01:01 AM
Ane melihat ada sebuah meme token di coin marketcap yang naiknya sampai 200%, lupa namanya tapi ada unsur X di depannya. Ane pikir ini merupakan murni perjudian yang mempertaruhkan modal besar kalau investor tersebut tidak paham akan situasi dimana sering terjadi sebelumnya. Atau memang, mereka-mereka inilah yang menciptakan hype berlebihan tersebut dengan memanfaatkan kemasyuran Elon Musk?. entahlah, sebenarnya ane mau ikut, tapi kayaknya terlambat, takut beli di pucuk sih.
Tapi itu naiknya beneran 200% atau itu cuman settingan, kita tidak tau. Bisa saja mereka bayar CMC untuk bikin angka naik 200%. Sejauh ini tidak ada jaminan bahwa persentase kenaikan harga di CMC itu valid. Maka saya sendiripun tidak begitu yakin dengan angka persentasenya.

Meskipun itu beneran naik 200% persen di suatu exchange. Bisa saja itu manipulasi harga dari exchangenya. Atau yang mancing harga buy-sell dari oknum-oknum proyeknya sendiri.

Memang ada yang namanya army dari sebuah token, mereka inilah yang menyebar hype. Misalnya Shiba army atai Doge army, mereka nyebar hype di berbagai medsos untuk menarik minat para investor.
Hype seperti ini yang perlu dihindari oleh trader, kalo ada meme token yang naiknya sampai 200% jangan mudah terpancing dengan kenaikan tersebut, bisa jadi itu hanya hype sementara (jebakan yang dilakukan pihak tertentu) untuk menarik minat pelaku pasar ikut serta dalam meme token tersebut. Tergiur dengan profit besar tentu sudah pasti tapi perlu dipertimbangkan juga mungkin kenaikan tersebut telah mencapai puncak.

Kalo beneran naik 200% tentu akan sangat menguntungkan bagi trader yang sempat membeli di harga murah, tapi untuk jenis token seperti ini tidak lepas dari campur tangan whale (army yang mendukung token tersebut). Mereka sengaja membuat Hype sebagai pemancing menarik minat para investor untuk masuk dalam jebakan yang mereka buat.

620  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: PNS & ASN on: August 04, 2023, 05:25:08 PM
itu golongan 1a - 1c kok di bawah UMR Jawa Tengah (1.958.169)?,

wah ane mau ketawa gmn ini, masak gedean gaji ane di signature campaign.

anehnya lagi kok pada rebutan lo jadi PNS dan ASN, padahal sudah jelas gaji mereka itu sangat minim. Mangan aja ora cukup
Membandingkan gaji PNS atau ASN dengan pendapatan yang diperoleh dari signature campaign sangat tidak relevan Om, mereka sudah mendapat jaminan sampai pensiun, sementara pendapatan dari signature campaign siapa yang bisa menebak sampai berapa lama, contohnya CM yang tiba-tiba closed atau tiba-tiba forum tidak bisa diakses lagi.

Tidak aneh sih Om, jadi PNS atau ASN pasti mendapat penghasilan tetap tiap bulan selama yang bersangkutan masih aktif. Selain itu dibalik gaji pokok yang mereka terima ada tunjangan harian, tunjangan lauk, gaji 13 dan tunjangan lain, jika diakumulasikan nominalnya gede juga.

Mengenai pada rebutan jadi PNS dan ASN mungkin jawaban yang lebih realistis karena kehidupannya sudah terjamin sampai hari tua (pensiun), kelebihan lain yang jadi PNS atau ASN memiliki waktu luang untuk melakukan kegiatan lain, misalnya PNS atau ASN bisa menjadi petani, pedagang dan aktivitas lainnya diluar jam kerja, sementara petani dan pedagang tidak bisa menjadi PNS atau ASN.

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