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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 10:47:10 AM
I have fixed up the receiver process to have more robustness.

Do you have a pull for that so I can pull it since I am about to release new versions with the stable nodes coded in?

-MarkM-


No,  I am currently not active on github etc. Was going to send the file to unthinkingbit after I got no more issues reported from the testers for a couple of days.  I also already have a fixed up net.cpp btw..     thought I posted it before... but this thread has become too busy for all its different uses.  I can send that along too somewhere.
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 10:41:34 AM
Are you just an angry person or something? I would prefer not to have to ignore someone for simply being a douche when he is supposedly supporting dvc projects I am helping on. You seem to be the only person with a problem. I post my suggestions here so there can be a discussion that is logical for or against the concept. Who cares how many times I request something? Who cares if I ask for something you personally have a problem with? I have not seen any contributions by you yet that were helpful in any way. I fail to see how you have any place to stand in judgement of anyone here in the dvc community. If you cannot find a logical argument for or against a suggestion (and just because I suggest it does not mean it will happen) keep your silly commentary to yourself.

You honestly do not find it a logical argument against it that it is not needed as we already have the bitcoin dns Seed code in the client?    Do you really feel this is a logical argument  against the proposal I just made?  We have different definitions of logic it seems.  I have recently created the first working windows binaries, and mac osx ones.  I have fixed up the receiver process to have more robustness.  I have gotten very positive feedback from the people who have tired it saying they failed before and now it works for them.  I have offered to do the work for the dns seed nameserver.    I have two other projects going on that people have asked me to help with in pms.  On the other hand I have yet to see anything you have done helpful.  I also have to doubt you read other peoples posts if you have missed all this.

603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 10:00:20 AM

Look okay so far?

Or is that strDNSSeed thing not just a list of nodes? What is this talk about some weird proprietary application that is supposed to put dynamic DNS of some kind on those hostnames? (Why would it say the port number is same as a node's port number if its a DDNS app not simply a node? I suspect this list is simply a list of nodes, by name, nor a list of DDNS apps of some proprietary (or even non proprietary kind).

Further down net.cpp I see

Code:
unsigned int pnSeed[] =
{
//    0x1ddb1032, 0x6242ce40, 0x52d6a445, 0x2dd7a445, 0x8a53cd47, 0x73263750, 0xda23c257, 0xecd4ed57,
//    0x0a40ec59, 0x75dce160, 0x7df76791, 0x89370bad, 0xa4f214ad, 0x767700ae, 0x638b0418, 0x868a1018,
};

Is that simply a list of IP address expressed as integers? If so what endian-ness? Does osmeone have a tool to turn our four known stable IP address into that format to plug in there?

-MarkM-


Yep, these go in pnSeeds...   

unsigned int pnSeed[] =
{
  0xb73c9ac6,

is what I have for the first node you posted the other day.

604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 09:34:10 AM
Guys - can someone please make a Devcoin client for windows that is professional and easy to use and claim the bounty for that Smiley

I think the windows exe files already exist so it shouldn't be too hard for someone with the skills.

This will help in more people using Devcoin!

Devcoin is pretty much the same client as bitcoin, at the time it was created.  What is the issue with the client you want to see addressed?


I'd be nice if it was re-forked from the 0.8.1 codebase so we can use leveldb.

This is actually one of the reasons I don't want to see an upgrade right now.  Ever since I installed 0.8.1 I wind up having to wait for my block to get reindexed every few days.
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 09:31:55 AM
Can we please try to make a list of all STABLE nodes so I can plug them into the code so when someone builds a windows client it will be able to find connections?

I started a list...  did not get many.....   will post it to the wiki.


http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_seeds
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 09:30:30 AM
Guys - can someone please make a Devcoin client for windows that is professional and easy to use and claim the bounty for that Smiley

I think the windows exe files already exist so it shouldn't be too hard for someone with the skills.

This will help in more people using Devcoin!

Devcoin is pretty much the same client as bitcoin, at the time it was created.  What is the issue with the client you want to see addressed?
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 29, 2013, 09:25:31 AM

I would like to suggest a bounty for bringing the devcoin client current to be capable of using the seed nodes. Of all the alt coins posted to an exchange it looks like dvc is the furthers behind on the clients. To keep the currency relevant we need to plan ahead, this looks to be a necessary step to continue the development of the currency.


Brilliant man, just brilliant.   You suggest a bounty to make the client capable of doing what is already is capable of doing.    You really like low effort bounties don't you.    Since this was told in discussions in the very thread that you quoted you either did not do your research or just felt like posting nonsense?

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Over the past 10 years css and xhtml have become more prominent, this is a similar case where the standard method is changing and I would not want the clients to get so far behind that they would cause new users of dvc to give up in frustration. Good design will facilitate the new & update speed of users with regard to the blockchain, help tx propagation across the network, scale with as the number of users grows and provide a resilient mechanism for clients locating other clients.

You really do take that 'Blah Blah Blah' under your avatar seriously don't you?


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Not sure if this has had a bounty requested yet, but this would address more than half of the new devcoin users that have trouble getting the client working. They are used to bitcoin and other clients, you install and no files needing downloaded and installed in specific directories.

This is being addressed already, do you read the posts?

I propose that we limit the number of proposals one person may make in some time span without paying a fee to propose more things.    This may make it so people actually think about, and research their proposal before doing something as silly as proposing a bounty for something that already is in the code.
608  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: DGM pools -- bitparking, EMC, etc. on: April 29, 2013, 05:01:55 AM
If so, then for 1 share that I submit, I am to receive both 1 unit of reward for bitcoin mining, but also 1 unit of reward for each of the other coins.
Yes, that is how it works: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/273/how-does-merged-mining-work

So, if converted (at today's rates) to bitcoins, what is the total reward per share on a PPS system (assuming 5% fee on bitcoins and 2.5% on all others)? In other words, what is the sum, in bitcoins, of all rewards received?

Right now  namecoin adds 8.13%, devcoin 0.62% and ixcoin 2.18% to your earnings in terms of the price ratio to btc.
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
I would suggest separating the two domains. Google tends to penalize sites with forwarded or framed domains. Also, the .org would be an authoritative domain and help with giving devcoin a better search presence. Thoughts?

I concur.   You can be liberal with your links from the .org to devcoin as well which will drive traffic anyway, plus build devtome's link count a bit.
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
Thank you, sadly I don't have time to pick up a whole committed bounty for something. I really was just tying to help a community out, get a little cash, and help out JasinLee since he is my friend and he put it up. I didn't even know it was a bounty I just was bored on the forums and it popped up. I am sorry I did the site so well and complete in a fast manner. Kinda penalizes good programmers, cause now I probably take bitcoin work instead of a devcoin bounty. But it is all cool Good luck in your witch hunts.

What will it return for the value if vircurex is being used and down?

What will it do to the exchange site when used on a busy site, or when under a DDOS?

What you call complete and fast I call quick and dirty.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: More Genesis Block Discussion on: April 28, 2013, 08:10:22 AM
The phrase is hashed into the block.

It is meant to be a proof of date.   It is mean to be some fact that would not have been known before the date in it, to prove the block was made on of after that date.
612  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Genesis Block on: April 28, 2013, 08:06:21 AM


Where I am really confused is sort of the why of all this, like why is this done this way?

Simple it was never the intent of the code to support different chains.

Multicoin was a code fork awhile back that changed this to some extent.  It was capable of running the different alt coins available at the time just by changing the configurations you used it with, not not recompiling.  You could thus use it to pretty easily make a different coin by just creating a new config file.

https://github.com/twobits/MultiCoin-2bit
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 04:47:43 AM

Does it matter who posted it, I posted it on my github, and the wiki, he posted it on here. I was talking to him all day since I wanted to make sure it was correct, so he knew I was making it. I handed in a version that wasn't what he wanted so I actually had to go back and redo a lot of things. So there was a lot of time for the other person to take the bounty from me.

Yes it does matter.  Now you say you were talking to him all day about it.  However the code was posted only an hour and  twenty five minutes after the bounty amounts proposed.  Seems you just admitted you were working on this anyway ahead of the bounty in collaboration with the original poster of the proposal.
   

I'm not sure it matters there have been several instances where an already started project applied for and received shares.  I don't think this share system was designed to only spur development in untouched areas but to also reward pioneers for the work they are already doing, and then there are groups that do things without requesting bounty solely for the good of the community for reasons of their choosing.  This seems like a good project to reward IMHO...

Above I was saying that it matter for propriety in regards to who posted the claim.

I actually was originally trying to figure out more what you are talking about, then jasinlee's  reply of bringing in my post count of all things, raised my alarm levels all the more that it is not proper for someone who proposes a bounty to be the one who claims it so quickly thereafter.   Had the reply been more like this the tone would have changed quickly.

I do remember that many ongoing projects got put into the rewards for projects already active, so you seem to be right, however something about small bounties being claimed so quickly by the by the original proposer just does not seem right.

I would like to quote two things from http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin

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The primary concern is that in the long term, most organizations become corrupt, regardless of the intentions of the founders.

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To further reduce corruption, all meetings and votes will be public, because sunshine is the best disinfectant.

jasinlee's posting of a bounty he then himself appears to have claimed does not seem proper, especially given the time frames.

He then tries to defend it with mention of backdoor talks and tells me to make a new thread and let other people talk about it, through backdoor means.  Even if it was all done ethically it has the appearance of impropriety.  The follow up post just reenforced that.
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 03:46:07 AM
I agree with your objection. I was not careful when I wrote the share amounts, and I was wrong, they were too high.

Am I getting a the bounty that was first posted or is it changing?

It will change, but dont stress it, I will donate the remainder since you were not aware there would have been an issue with it.

Naw it is fine. But maybe better guidelines needs to be posted so before someone starts a bounty on a bored day, I know how to alert the powers at be Wink

The bounty was not past it's time for being past being a proposed bounty, rather then a bounty.... pick one of the committed bounties if you want to be sure to get it I would say.
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [DEV] - Buy computer parts with devcoins on: April 28, 2013, 03:38:55 AM
Great!!   Not sure if I missed it, but where would these be shipping from?  Would be interested but concerned about shipping and customs fees.


Hope this takes off for you.
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 03:02:47 AM
....

I am going by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34586.msg1961764#msg1961764 as when it became active as a potential bounty.

617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 02:50:54 AM
Go make a new thread and complain there, this is the thread for devcoin, not "I am twobits and I am a genius you should all listen to me."

You have already made your dispute known, let the people that speak to each other like adults decide what to do with it.

Yes, I did... and this was the thread it was proposed on and I replied in the place it was posted.  You are now childishly demanding that I put it in another thread where not as many will see the objection.

Also, you have me confused with gweedo, he is the only one who wrote  'I am genius'. I said no such thing as anything you just put in your silly little ad hominem attack.

I presume these people that speak to each other as adults that are deciding will of course not include you?
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: April 28, 2013, 02:48:00 AM

Does it matter who posted it, I posted it on my github, and the wiki, he posted it on here. I was talking to him all day since I wanted to make sure it was correct, so he knew I was making it. I handed in a version that wasn't what he wanted so I actually had to go back and redo a lot of things. So there was a lot of time for the other person to take the bounty from me.

Yes it does matter.  Now you say you were talking to him all day about it.  However the code was posted only an hour and  twenty five minutes after the bounty amounts proposed.  Seems you just admitted you were working on this anyway ahead of the bounty in collaboration with the original poster of the proposal.
   
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Ticker on: April 28, 2013, 02:37:29 AM
http://btcticker.appspot.com/

I request a bounty for a clone of this application for devcoin. Stipulations would include open source being posted to devtome.com.

I suggest a 6 then 3 bounty.

Any objections, or should anything be changed?

I object.   This project looks to be too trivial, and seems to have been posted by someone who already wanted this and had the means to create it, but just wanted to get a bounty for what they would make anyway.


Why is this such a big deal?

Because jasinlee acted in bad faith proposing that bounty in my opinion.
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin Ticker on: April 28, 2013, 02:35:24 AM
http://btcticker.appspot.com/

I request a bounty for a clone of this application for devcoin. Stipulations would include open source being posted to devtome.com.

I suggest a 6 then 3 bounty.

Any objections, or should anything be changed?

I object.   This project looks to be too trivial, and seems to have been posted by someone who already wanted this and had the means to create it, but just wanted to get a bounty for what they would make anyway.
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