http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/

Edit: guy that wrote that is idiot biggot, but he's right about Jews running major networks.  Who cares though.  Not me.  They are good at managing money and building large companies.

Posted in their signature campaign thread.  Can't make this stuff up.

Just import (copy paste) it to excel and let your computer do the work for you.

So you sent him a pm about a business he wanted to sell that you might be interested in buying (selling snails by mail  )

Then you used that as evidence of him being scummy for not calling you scummy for 4 or 5 sentences.

That's really lame.  Pay your debt dude.

I'm not a troll and I'm not spamming, this is simply the only defense you - or Betcoin - can come up with.

Just because you don't like what I have to say doesn't qualify it as spam.  

Many of the posts I made in your thread were only made because of your ridiculous responses trying to discredit me for example:


Obviously some people trust you and listen to what you have to say - even if it's just so they can keep getting paid per post by Betcoin - when you tell them you're "very sure" that I'm making false statements - then you simply refuse to explain why, that's just fucked up.

I don't think you are very interested in the truth.  Many in your campaign aren't either.  

Betcoin pays a premium for you to tell people that they are the most trusted, so you do.  imo that's disgusting.

If I'm wrong, simply explain:

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For anyone interested, here's a great example of Betcoins mentality they posted earlier today.

Jessica, welcome back.

Players have been asking for months (literally) how player login info/email addresses got into the hands of scammers.

Betcoin has claimed they weren't hacked, so how then?

Do you consider the following trolls/spammers?  Same question being asked for months now...kinda like the over-rake problem that took 6 months for you to finally take any responsibility...

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Are you saying my accusations are false?  Why not just dispute them?  Companies get accused of stuff they didn't do all the time, so what?  Try searching any scam site that once had a good reputation for example.  This proves just as much as searching Google is a Scam - nothing.

I've said many times I don't think you're technically a scam site, just a very unethical one.  I hope it changes.

Just realized Roslinda gave me my first un-trusted feedback for "spamming and off topic posting"

Not sure how this makes me untrustworthy, but clearly he lives in his own world where words like spam, rational and troll are defined differently.

Ironically the best reference he could come up with was a post I started out genuinely defending Betcoin. (although I followed it up with a link to the scam accusation thread)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg14245447#msg14245447


If anyone thinks they can get through to him and explain how ignornant he's acted with the entire situation, please do.

Or if you can explain to me what I'm missing here.  Please do.

Or if said anything that you don't understand or are interested in more details, please ask.

Pretty ridiculous opinions on many levels.

For example:  The signature is highly visible therefore anyone who sees it will know that user is being paid to post by the site.  Sure you and I would know this is the case.  But what about all the lurkers who stumble acrosss the thread from a google search or something?  There's more of them than there are us.

I would respond to the rest, but in the past you simply ignore my attempts at reasoning with you and you've proven you're willing to lie and not accept responsibility for it.

Recap:

Xiao got busted skimming a bit off the top every week so he added this to his terms.


Very Betcoinish way of handling things.

Be willing to send first or use escrow (ill split fee) unless you're very trusted.

a) You have their advertisment in your signature.  This usually means they are paying you to post in the forums.

b) You speak about Fortune Jack as if it is your job to respond to FJ customers and convince them to think highly of FJ.


It is an accusation. The thinly veiled part I suppose was me trying to avoid conflict, and also point out that someone who is getting paid by Fortune Jack to post on Bitcointalk probably woulnd't be posting like that if there weren't any money in it for him.

By the way, there's nothing wrong (imo) with simply accepting payment from a site to post with their advertisement.  But then when you go defend them or offer your opnion, you should offer full disclosure so that others are aware that you are not just a player who is doing what they think is right.  You're a player being paid by the company you're discussing, which creates a conflict of interest.   

Do you know why they haven't been able to tell us what their rule is on multi-accounting in almost 2 weeks?

Do you guys work for the site?

Yup, that's me.
 
False, I am somebody.

True.

You're right. But when they have thread on a public forum, they do have to choose whether or not to answer me and this decision will be made public.
Do you think my questions are unreasonable?  I don't.  So I will keep asking them.  But if you do, let me know which ones and I will take that into consideration.

I hope you're wrong but I think you're right.  They thought they could run a poker site without knowing anything about poker.

For the record, I don't think Betcoin is "in it to scam" and since this guy has not provided any evidence i think it's safe to assume he's full of shit.

There are many people like this for any online casino, and I think Betcoin and Rosalind are hoping to convince others that's all I am as well.

Anyone who will take the time and research before advertising will see that I am not one of the crazys.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.0;all

been 11 days now since i first asked - still no answer ,whats the problem?

Ooops.  I assume you mean where I flip flopped Lupin and you.  Fixed.



fixed


thanks

Xiao, you are not the hand that feeds anyone.  The players are the ones generating the revenue, not the other way around.  You can pretend like you give it all back but we both know poker rake is peanuts compared to sports and casino revenue and you're just an affiliate saying whatever you have to say doing what you have to do to get as big a piece of pie as possible.  Judging by your reaction to ungods request, that includes skimming off the top whatever you thought you could get away with.

Hopenotlate, you know the shady shit that Betcoin and Xiao have been doing but still you try to play for both sides. wtf.

I actually never accused Betcoin of "scamming" since it would be easy to derail based on every ones personal interpretation of what "scam" means.  

Since early 2014 there have been several "honest mistakes" during which Betcoin took many BTC (possibly over 100) that they weren't entitled to.   The issue I have, is when players told them "hey, why are you taking the money you shouldn't be" they would ignore the player, lie about it or find some other way to cover it up - then do nothing to fix the issue.

I did have a personal issue with Betcoin involving them oweing me money, which is why I stopped playing there last October.  Last week they paid me, and I updated the accusation thread accordingly.  They didn't apologize or anything for insisting I was wrong, then ignoring me, then banning me when I woudn't stfu about it.  

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Nobody's paying me for the time I've spent trying to expose Betcoin.  I've taken poker seriously for over 10 years now, relying on it as my primary source of income for over 3 years now.  I've player millions (literally) of both highly regulated and barely/unregulated poker and I believe that Betcoin is in the perfect position to make something great.  But they're fucking it up by being lazy, arrogant and unethical.  I hope they get their shit together, but I'm not going to let them set the example that bribes and signature campaigns are an alternative to transparency and integrity.

"TwitchySeal lost his coins while playing Betcoin.ag and he's trying to insult."

I only put serious volume in at Betcoin for a few months.  This is only to defend myself, not to brag - but you can see my non-satellite tournament results [HERE]  I also played around 80,000 hands of cash, results [HERE]  I did very well on Betcoin - which is something I considered before burning my bridge with them.

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All my attempts to have a reasonable discussion in public have resulted in them ignoring me and/or attempting to discredit me by calling me a spamming troll.  Management, their site pro, their biggest affiliate and now their signature campaign manager.

I have put the effort into providing evidence to back every accusation I have made against Betcoin.  Many are complicated and have been going on months or years - so it's frustrating to see members obviously getting paid by Betcoin to post to attack me or defend Betcoin with vague comments or lies and then simply ignore a reasonable response, or call it spam.

For anyone interested in taking a look:

The thread I started on 1/10/16 as a record of many issues that were ultimately handled unethically: [LINK]

My first post in the signature campaign thread, with evidence that ftwbtc (member of campaign I suspect is actually controlled by Betcoin managment) had applied to join the campaign with his alt account, noobtc.  -   [LINK]

I didn't know anything about roslinpl and made it clear I had no intention of disrespecting him, but he basically responded by asking me to stop spamming with "trollspeech" which compelled me to be sure that the members of the campaign were aware that my evidence is real and I'm not like the majority of those who complain about casinos.  

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The scam accusation is just a conversation about unethical things Betcoin has done, they have yet to address the thread and accept responsibility (although they have recently semi-admitted to part of two issues on the long list by offering compensation after 6 months of ignoring/denying it ) In 2.5 months there have been two attempts at defending Betcoin.  One of them started off by saying "This will be my first and last post in this thread." followed by a bunch of lies.

The other was the alt account of ftwbtc (mentioned above) explaining how much he loved Betcoin and how crazy I am.

My point is, I would agree with you that going into the sig campaign is not appropriate.  However, I feel at this point I have thoroughly exhausted all or most other channels of communication but still feel I just need to get the right person or people  to hear me.  

If you're willing, I would very much appreciate it if you would look into the accusations and share your impartial opinion (I've never communicated with you in any way afaik), or point me in the right direction of someone who might be willing.  I don't know how or if it's kosher to ask someone to not trust someone around here and tbh don't really understand the whole system.  I do know dooglus is aware of much of what I've said and is quoted in the thread.

Thanks for reading (if anyone made it this far)


Scam Accusation Thread

in another thread xiao has:



~40%

guess hes just gonna act like skimming a little is nbd, just throw in a tilde and boom youre honest

Please don't ignore me FortuneJack, I'm trying to help you.  This is the third time I've asked now, do you think I'm being unreasonable?

Attempt #1 [LINK]
Attempt #2 [LINK]
Attempt #3:
Dear FortuneJack,

I don't see any rules about players having multiple accounts. Will you clarify your stance on this.

Are you aggressively taking action to prevent players from multi-accounting and punishing those who do?

If you don't prohibit multi-accounting, I suggest you mention somewhere that multi-accounting is permitted.  
Simply doing/saying nothing on the issue is just going to hurt the honest players and benefit the cheaters.
Again, doing nothing will cause the most damage to you players who are the most honest.

Do you allow small cashouts to be processed by new accounts without any sort of manual review?  For the sake of game integrity, I hope not.

Do you understand why nearly every other poker site reviews cashout requests when the funds are exposed to peer2peer wagering?

You should consider players cheating other players just as seriously as you take players cheating you.

PS - I'll keep asking you these questions until you answer, so please don't ignore me the way you have in the past.