You can address your complaints to me, but I didnt write up the script. Gweedo is fast on the draw, sorry he got it done fast and let me know, sorry if I didnt say OH hey gweedo wrote it up in that time in public. I did however let unthinkingbit know ahead of time.
I bet you are sorry you did not say that. You did not say that because you did not think you would get called on it and now you are trying to CYA. So now you will just say , oh it is not me, it is someone else, I just happened to post a bounty proposal then the code for it soon thereafter. Sorry I am genius but I saw the bounty, no one pointed me to it, no one asked me to do it. I was bored today and had time, and cranked it out. It isn't that hard of a site to make. If you have an issue PM me and we can talk about that obviously I am genius and you can't let me have one bounty. There is enough bounties for everyone. You are right, it is a trivial site to make. However, if what you said is true, why would you not have been the one posting it? Feels way too much like after the fact BS. |
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You can address your complaints to me, but I didnt write up the script. Gweedo is fast on the draw, sorry he got it done fast and let me know, sorry if I didnt say OH hey gweedo wrote it up in that time in public. I did however let unthinkingbit know ahead of time.
I bet you are sorry you did not say that. You did not say that because you did not think you would get called on it and now you are trying to CYA. So now you will just say , oh it is not me, it is someone else, I just happened to post a bounty proposal then the code for it soon thereafter. That is also another thing, you say 'fast on the draw', but the basics of something like this are less then an hours work anyway. What is the unit of time a bounty of the size you propose should cover in effort? |
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I just started working on a DVC ticker image app after I saw the proposal, and I agree, it is a little disappointing to have started working on this and see you post it so soon after recommending the bounty. I will still try to finish my app and claim the second bounty, and I don't think jasinlee should be prevented from claiming the bounty, but I agree with twobits recommendation - in the future there should be a reasonable amount of time before the person who proposed a bounty can claim said bounty.
I think it can be said jasinlee posted the bounty in bad faith. That would be reason to prevent him from claiming the bounty. |
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--snipped--- for brevity  ok, snipped for brevity then... The nodes in one are simply a subset of two. Right now there is no DNS seeding done by devcoin let alone DDNS seeding. The real question to ask right now is if there a desire and will to create and maintain some DNS servers for this type of use. If the answer is yes, then work on it can commence. It really should not take too much if is it desired and committed to be maintained. As for a review of where we are, the dns seed code has not been used yet. The first step would be to start to use it. This may be done as simply as a few dedicated servers that do nothing more then serve a few known good peers. As for 3, there would be no need to make this easier for the end user unless you simple mean, make this work automatically more reliably. Tellings users to addnode is actually not making it easier for them. As for your caution with DDNS, the risk seems to be no more then the risk with IRC, and since these should be custom DNS servers, logic to reduce this risk can then be considered unlike the existing irc set up. |
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http://devtome.com/DVCImage/It is not complete yet, but devtome.com will have one of the image dvc tickers on the site now. Tomorrow a generator or something simpler should be available. Examples below: The source will be posted soon too then I will update the thread. Lol, so you propose a bounty to get someone interested in doing something, then magically post code for the same bounty hours later? I am not the only person that works on the site, unthinkingbit is aware of this also, he handled the coding, but I manage the bounties for that particular person. Cynical much? Are you trying to increase your post count by creating a new reply to every single post instead of consolidating it into a single post? (/cynicism) Yes, I am very cynical now. I propose that a reasonably period of time must elapse before such small work bounties may be claimed by the person originally asking for said bounty. This is assuming the bounties are meant to motivate people to work on things they would not have done anyway. There is no feature to consolidate posts using the skin I am using at least. And it is irrelvent, smaller replies to the exact post are better. Post counts are also meaninless and have no value, so there is no incentive to increase such. I I wanted to increase my post count as a goal, I would have far more then I do, especially given the time I have been on the forum, mr newbie with over 1000 posts.... |
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Hello, after struggling with various bitcoin related services, e.g. I've tried to port electrum server or auto dice system from bitcoin to devcoin, at last they all point to the single failure, the too old devcoin code that could not provide needed api or functions.
So here I suggest (if I have this right?) a bounty to port devcoin to newest bitcoin code (says, 0.8.1 or later) for 5 shares (or more), besides I'd like to add 1share of my own, that is, to donate 1of my share that I will reveive (no matter how many dvcs) at round 23 to the one who win this bounty.
I oppose this bounty, bitcoin 0.8.1 is the most flakey version of bitcoin I have yet had to deal with. It is the wrong time to try and make a new base. Perhaps instead say what is missing, it may be simpler and quicker to just add it. Also it has been said earlier they do not want a dice service running on devcoin... if this is what is keeping those off of it so much the better. |
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http://devtome.com/DVCImage/It is not complete yet, but devtome.com will have one of the image dvc tickers on the site now. Tomorrow a generator or something simpler should be available. Examples below: The source will be posted soon too then I will update the thread. Lol, so you propose a bounty to get someone interested in doing something, then magically post code for the same bounty hours later? |
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Thoughts for the use of DNS in dvc.
You are basically starting to reinvent the DNS seed code, only not as complete as what it already does. For dvc, the only real change that should be made, and maybe even the first change till we make a decent dns seed supporting server, should be to move the finding of the sources of the receiver files to txt or srv records instead of hardcoding them as I posted a bit earlier. Not really - we're talking about 2 different things. I'm talking about replacing the existing hard coded IP addresses with DNS based lookups - these authoritative nodes help bootstrap the rest of the network. You're talking about the ddns DNS boostrap - which ultimately is a subdomain of the first. It's a worthwhile pursuit - but requires infrastructure and a balanced distribution to be effective. One of the reasons for IRC is that there already exists a well distributed network that can be used to leverage bootstrapping. No, look at the code. It does replace the hard coded address, if dnseeds are found it no longer uses the hardcoded address as fall back. In fact this is one of the bugs in the existing code. It puts direct nodes in as dns seeds and these are gone. Now this happened to work when they were up even though this was wrong. Now that they are down, it gets these addresses and never hits a hardcoded fall back and fails. Though since it also had no hardcoded fall backs that did not matter either. I changed this, and put in the two good seeds nodes for this. This is all part of the better bootstrapping version that seems to be working decently now. Now usually dns seeds servers are ddns, and do try to be smarter about spreading the load an d such but nothing stops them from being instead the subset you are talking about, as is. To get what you want all we would need to do is change the dns seeds to include the simplified static dns entries, and of course have the dns servers out there and maintained. |
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Thoughts for the use of DNS in dvc.
You are basically starting to reinvent the DNS seed code, only not as complete as what it already does. For dvc, the only real change that should be made, and maybe even the first usage till we make a decent dns seed supporting server, should be to move the finding of the sources of the receiver files to txt or srv records instead of hardcoding them as I posted a bit earlier. |
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If you aren't sure what to mine, mine devcoins. The GH/s is 7,218.3109 which is over double what it has been sitting at for the past week, and I don't have the money to start mining yet, but I am pretty sure that means the block time has been cut in half, which means double fast earnings also if I am not mistaken... So Devcoin is GOOD to mine right now. Plus, some of the devcoin pool goes to developers and independent artists. So your mining supports others.  You are mistaken. Higher difficulty means more competition, and also that the difficulty will rise to keep the block time a constant. |
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ok.. everything has just been updated... mostly to fix an issue discovered that would effect those silly people that run a program by double clicking instead of from the command line. So devcoin-win32.7a https://www.box.com/s/mbpf9os0fhhg1tzuce1udevcoin_osx.zip https://www.box.com/s/h26atelim2ylqjrmorbf and for those feeling brave. devcoin-win32-exp.7z https://www.box.com/s/tyyqloma3tf8xldfvcogMore of an experimental version based on a bit newer version of the bitcoin code, that has encrypted wallet support as someone on irc was complaining about lacking this last night. Exp, Experimental, back up your unencrypted wallets first if you turn on encryption. |
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So I might currently be the only person on the list who doesn't necessarily have one specific project that justifies them being on the list. I do work on Open Transactions to an extent, but also on a bunch of altcoins from time to time and on Galactic Milieu stuff and so on. I like it that way because it means I don't have to keep dropping off the list and going back on the list from month to month depending on whether some one particular project actually comes up with enough work for me in any given month. Others' mileage may vary. -MarkM- EDIT: Ten hours a week working on free open source code might seem like a heck of a lot of work just to earn the same share that writing just 1000 words in devtome gets but bear in mind it was intended more as a freebie given to people who already anyway do that much work - lifestyle free open source coders basically - than as any kind of real actual pay intended to motivate people to do the work. I spend too much time on such things, I keep on not taking time away from it to earn far more lucrative pay putting my writings into the devtome! Hmmm.. I think I am going to try and get on the list as a floater also... I may not always do 10 hours a week, but when I do work on something it is far more then that so it should average out easily. |
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Is anyone doing this?
Not that I know of. Remember mm is a forking change, it requires code support in the coin and enough people to switch to that version to get it to do so. I have yet to hear of anyone making a mm scrypt coin. |
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I didn't. I'm going to be including Devcoin discussions in my thread. I have been waiting for YouTube to fund it, but Devcoin seems like it will be doing the funding So it'll be up in the next month or two. Youtube funds things? Yup. Through adsense. Interesting, I may have to look into that sometime. |
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I didn't. I'm going to be including Devcoin discussions in my thread. I have been waiting for YouTube to fund it, but Devcoin seems like it will be doing the funding So it'll be up in the next month or two. Youtube funds things? |
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I would like to request a bounty be discussed for a text populating wizard/flow that can be used as a standardized generator for security prospectus so more devcoin based securities can be issued on cryptostocks or other sites.
I would also like to see more devcoin investment opportunities on cryptostocks and such sites, am tempted to set up my own if i ever got a good idea and enough devcoins to start one, as it is i feel I am about to snap up a couple of thousand shares in the DVB listing... so buy them b4 I do... think there not many cheap ones left. I just took a look. Seems there are only two DVC based stocks right now? I can agree with wanting to see more. The 1 million coin price to create something may be a bit steep though. Thats actually pretty cheap, most of the securities cost far more than 1mil devcoins worth of btc. Depends on what you compare it to. If you are not getting generated shares,but only mining shares that is a lot of mining. However since no services are listed besides creating the security, and they also get a trading fee, I am not going to agree that is cheap for an entry in a database. As for the securities, they seem priced at 213 and 750. It is going to take an awful lot of trading before a small percentage of those amount recover 1million. in turn get a fee on any purchase of shares |
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I would like to request a bounty be discussed for a text populating wizard/flow that can be used as a standardized generator for security prospectus so more devcoin based securities can be issued on cryptostocks or other sites.
I would also like to see more devcoin investment opportunities on cryptostocks and such sites, am tempted to set up my own if i ever got a good idea and enough devcoins to start one, as it is i feel I am about to snap up a couple of thousand shares in the DVB listing... so buy them b4 I do... think there not many cheap ones left. I just took a look. Seems there are only two DVC based stocks right now? I can agree with wanting to see more. The 1 million coin price to create something may be a bit steep though. |
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Hi Unthinkingbit, I have setup the forum now and its available for testing. http://www.devcointalk.org/At the moment anyone can register and post. I tried changing this to fulfill the bounty but I had trouble with the SMF settings. Maybe its better to keep it open and people can make donations. Next I will install mediawiki and the bridge for SMF. Please note this is still under development. I hope to be assigning moderator and even admin access to those helping with the devcoin project soon. Please note that people are able to earn devcoins for work on Rejuvepedia especially project "in utero" which will eventually allow humans to be completely rejuvenated by spending 9 months in a tissue engineered womb and to "breathe" and be fed nutrients, stem cells and so on through a tissue engineered placenta. We need people to do some exploration of concept artwork for this like a rendered 3d animation. My Devcoin address: 19piwg8kyW5unDpLjYjbvE6GGvtAfghT8c What happened to this? Read on a bit. caston soon there after realized they did not agree with the percentages that went for donation compared to miners and decided they were not as interested in devcoins as they had originally thought. Well, new forums coming soon. Huh,how did you know that one of my next projects was probably going to be an alt coins forum? |
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Hi Unthinkingbit, I have setup the forum now and its available for testing. http://www.devcointalk.org/At the moment anyone can register and post. I tried changing this to fulfill the bounty but I had trouble with the SMF settings. Maybe its better to keep it open and people can make donations. Next I will install mediawiki and the bridge for SMF. Please note this is still under development. I hope to be assigning moderator and even admin access to those helping with the devcoin project soon. Please note that people are able to earn devcoins for work on Rejuvepedia especially project "in utero" which will eventually allow humans to be completely rejuvenated by spending 9 months in a tissue engineered womb and to "breathe" and be fed nutrients, stem cells and so on through a tissue engineered placenta. We need people to do some exploration of concept artwork for this like a rendered 3d animation. My Devcoin address: 19piwg8kyW5unDpLjYjbvE6GGvtAfghT8c What happened to this? Read on a bit. caston soon there after realized they did not agree with the percentages that went for donation compared to miners and decided they were not as interested in devcoins as they had originally thought. |
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Here is the really cool part, you can use bitcoin offline wallets for devcoin. They use the same addresses/private keys. So you can send dvc to a btc address. Then recover them with the private key of that wallet on a devcoin client later. Attention, this function does not work properly, when you try to import a private key to devcoind from bitcoind you end up with an import error! Could be because bitcoin now supports compressed keys by default and devcoin does not have support for them. We have a standing bounty to bring dvc to 0.8.1? god I hope not, if that is the plan tell me know so I stop wasting my time with the code. |
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