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641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as payment system on: December 07, 2017, 04:13:13 PM
We all know that Bitcoin is one of the best ways to invest your money. However, we know that Satoshi wanted to change money as we know it rather than new investment model.

How do you think, will we be using bitcoin as payment system? Or it will stay as it is and this bubble blow up one day?  Undecided

And how do you see it's future?



I think, bitcoin's will permanent as asset for invest.
Bitcoin as payment system?..., it might not be possible.
Because all we know, government policy isn't on the side of bitcoin.
Government refused, if bitcoin is used as payment system.
642  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ditjen Pajak: Keuntungan Bitcoin Kena Pajak bagaimana pendapatnya? on: December 07, 2017, 12:19:44 PM
Saat ini saya pantau di thread trending topix bisa dikatakan mungkin seperti ini bagaimana nasib Bitcoin di Indonesia kedepan ? ketika banyak perbincangan mengenai ini saya menemukan berita mengenai Bitcoin akan dikenakan Pajak. Lalu apakah ini bisa dikatakan sebagai pertanda Bitcoin akan dilegalkan Di Indonesia ? atau ini hanya isue saja.

Mari kita diskusikan bagaimana selanjutnya tahun 2018 nanti.
Saya mempunyai feel bahwasannya tahun 2018 akan menjadi polemix mengenai Bitcoin ini,kita tahu secara Pemilu semakin dekat dan bukan tidak mungkin menurut saya Bitcoin akan dijadikan Topix selanjutnya untuk suatu hal tertentu.Tetapi semoga saja ini hanya perasaan saya dan jangan sampai terjadi Sad

berikut berita yang saya dapatkan dari sosial media
https://katadata.co.id/berita/2017/12/06/ditjen-pajak-keuntungan-bitcoin-kena-pajak-dan-dilaporkan-di-spt

Bagi saya tidak ada masalah sama sekali jika Pemerintah membebsnkan Pajak terhadap Bitcoin, asal saja mereka bisa memberikan REGULASI yang jelas dan menganggap Bitcoin sah untuk digunakan di Indonesia.
643  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Starting trade with small amount on: December 07, 2017, 12:18:20 AM
How to start a trade with small amount?
I am not a millionaire.I have jaust some money.I want to trade with my small amount.can I do this?Then how?

For example with $ 500, you might purchase (cheap coin), as:
Einstenium (EMC2),
RChain (RHOC),
Decentraland (MANA),
MonaCoin (MONA), and
Bytom (BTM)
In my opinion, currently they are the best coins to early 2018.
644  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Penurunan mata uang dolar on: December 06, 2017, 04:35:12 AM
Penurunan mata uang  dolar terhadap mata uang global Apakah ada pengaruh terhadap bitcoin apalagi logam mulia mas juga sedang naik

Saya kira penurunan dollar, hanya berefek pada mata uang fiat saja dan tak berpengaruh pada mata uang crypto seperti bitcoin atau altcoin, karena bitcoin tida diciptakan oleh bank.
645  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bank dan transaksi mata uang digantikan Cryptocurrency,Akankah? on: December 06, 2017, 03:04:08 AM
Cryptocurrency belakangan makin melejit dan semakin banyak orang yang mengetahuinya,apalagi soal keamanan tidak usah lagi dipertanyakan,karna sepengetahuan kita bahwa kalau kita nyimpen duit di bank bakal ditagih pajak sama rekening kita harus ngecas bulanan,intinya Cryptocurrency sudah sangat membantu sekali dalam hal mengamankan aset,dalam hal ini jika pemilik cryptocurrency tetap bisa menjaga WALLETNya dengan aman,

ini ada juga sedikit rumor yang beredar bahwa FED(Bank Centralnya Amerika) mau ngebuat cryptonya sendiri,akankan ini awal mula dari hancurnya bank dan uang kertas,but who knows the future,sekitar sebulanan yang lalu saya membuat topic dengan judul "Akankah bitcoin 1 juta dolar pada 2021" dengan patokan yang saya sediakan pada topic itu,dan benar saja patokan yang saya gunakan ternyata ada benarnya,dan belakangan juga ada MCaffe yang memprediksi BITCOIN will $1 million on 2020,

FUTURE OF MONEY IS IN HERE,

$10k/BTC just begining LOL

Lihat topic ane yang sebulanan lalu,saat itu BTC masih di $4-$5k/BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2297510.msg23313280#msg23313280

Rupanya masih sangat dini jika kita bicara seperti ini Boo, kits semua kan tahu, masalah REGULASI BITCOIN saja belum final, mana mungkin bisa digantikan dengan uang crypto.
646  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: kondisi seperti apa yang akan membuat bitcoin tidak berharga lagi? on: December 06, 2017, 12:08:00 AM
kira-kira ni menurut poro sesepuh... kondisi seperti apa yang akan membuat bitcoin tidak berharga lagi?
apakah perang?
apakah hilangnya internet di dunia ini?


Saya kira, disaat orang-orang sudah tidak menggunakan Bitcoin lagi baik invest maupun transaksi, secara bersamaan.
Atau bisa juga disaat pemerintah menerapkan larangannya dengan jelas, misal"Seluruh pengguna bitcoin baik yang mengadopsi Maupun hanya pengguna akan dianggap kriminal dan ditahan" saya yakin dengan cara itu Bitcoin akan ditinggalkan oleh massanya.
647  Economy / Economics / Re: Where do you spend your money from Bitcoin? on: December 05, 2017, 11:28:02 PM
Today's economy is either rising or falling depending on the consumers and sellers. If you join the Bitcoin, there is a high probability that you will gain something from your money because there are a lot of opportunities here. So my question is, "Where do you usually spend your money that you have gained here in Bitcoin?"

I buy motorcycle and school uniform, for my child.
648  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: What about the different types of wallets? on: December 05, 2017, 02:25:42 PM
I am using blockchain account for BTC. Thinks it is more a less reliable
Yes, that's right for Bitcoin.
Besides, another fact is of great significance in this case it is safety factor.
649  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Hal-Hal yang membuat Bitcoin kurang diminati on: December 05, 2017, 04:15:56 AM
Yang membuat bitcoin kurang diminati oleh masyarakat adalah belum adanya regulasi yang jelas dari pemerintah, kebijakan pemerintah terhadap bitcoin terkesan menakut-nakuti, kebanyakan masyarakat ingin mendapatkan hasil yang instan.
650  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: freebitco.in is a BIG scam on: December 04, 2017, 06:44:20 PM
At first the i were sucpicious/don't  believe of the FreeBitco.in,
I Sign-In learned later ti find what is the real problem?...
It turns out the root of the problem is "The slowness of payment."
However in fact, FreBitco.in this is paying folks off properly.
651  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin Sarana Investasi Yang Cocok Di Indonesia Karna Tidak Kena Pajak on: December 04, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
Saya kira bitcoin itu netral, tak berpihak pada salah satu negara saja.
Tak satupun negara yang mengenakan pajak terhadap bitcoin.
Jadi dinegara manapun investasi bitcoin sangat bagus untuk dilakukan.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BioFactoryCoin on: December 04, 2017, 01:07:01 AM
I think I'd like to hear the details, be needed to put these details to read/known.
653  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Akankah pemerintah indonesia mengambil tindakan?? on: December 03, 2017, 10:32:47 AM
Harga bitcoin semakin meroket seiring berjalannya waktu dan populamungkinitcoin semakin bertambah, akaknkah pemerintah indonesia ikut campur??
Sudah dapat dipastikan bahwa mereka akan ikut campur, apalagi saat ini srtelah bitcoin mengalami fluktuasi yang lebih liar lagi.
Dalam beberapa hari ini bitcoin bertengger dikisaran $ 11000,  saya kira hal ini pastinya mengkhawatirkan BI.
Jika pihak BI saja sudah khawatir, maka sudah pasti akan tindakan dari pemerintah Indonesia, namun ini aneh, untuk REGULASI saja belum jelas, bagaimana mungkin Pemerintah Indonesia melakukan tindakan.
654  Economy / Economics / Re: How did Bitcoin start to price increase? on: December 02, 2017, 10:17:03 PM
I think,  there one more thing, besides supply and demand, that is bitcoin exchange transaction.
Every bitcoin exchange transaction that involves the purchasing of bitcoin via another currency (fiat), has the effect of pushing the bitcoin price become up.
655  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kerja apa bitcoin dan trading on: December 01, 2017, 11:12:08 PM
Apakah bitcoin dan trading bisa dijadikan penghasilan pokok
mengingat kondisi pengangguran kian hari kian bertambah jumlahnya.
Sudah tentu bisa bitcoin dan trading dijadikan penghasilan pokok, karena bagi saya ini adalah satu solusi untuk mengatasi pengangguran yang ada dinegara kita.
656  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ReaderNet- A Revolution in Publishing Industry on: November 30, 2017, 12:45:34 AM
ReaderNet: Transforming LifeCycle of Books

Team ReaderNet
readernet.io

Abstract: A Blockchain based publishing and reading platform which connect writers directly with their readers with the need of publishers or any reselling agency. ReaderNet allows writers to write, edit, publish and showcase their book directly to readers instead of taking the path which is being followed for centuries now. Readers can buy or rent these books directly from writers buy paying them using READ tokens. Writers save on hefty cuts taken by publishers & listing websites like Amazon, Safari, Bookstore etc.


1.   Introduction

Blockchain has given us the power to execute trustless transactions whether they are Bitcoin based payment, Ethereum based Smart Contracts or Simply effort to decentralize the instant messaging. We have witnessed disruptive changes in various areas by adaption of Blockchain but the process how a book reaches to its lovers has been same ever since printing presses came into existence. Amazon Kindle did a little to put your entire library on your smartphone or tab but it kept the power to publish and sell the books to itself amassing billions of dollar from listing fee alone.

ReaderNet is our initiative to connect writers with readers. We aim to provide a writer with all the tools need to write & edit a book, secure its ownership, publish it and sell it directly to the readers resulting in faster to the market and more revenue per project.

2.   Platform


ReaderNet is combination of multiple application needed for the platform to function. These applications are –
   
o   Creator Portal
o   Reader App
o   READ Tokens

2.1   Creator Portal


An advance multilingual writing tool which allows writers to put their imaginations into text. This portal is a combination of WYSIWYG editor, Doodle Pad and Speech-to-text plugin. Along with these utilities portal would also host multiple plugins to allow conversion of any document to RD format (ReaderNet File Format), Convert blogs or article websites to a book or even scan physical copy of a book directly to RD format. Writer can also set additional security settings like – Disable Copy or Print etc.

2.2   Reader App

A sophisticated and feature rich  Reader for multiple platforms. In first phase app for following platforms would be launched :
♣   Chrome
♣   Windows 10
♣   Mac
♣   Android
♣   iOS

App would allow readers to sort, search, rent or buy a book. While reading user will be able to bookmark pages, highlight favorite text and convert them to notes and search any text in entire book. Verified owners will also be allowed rate a book or write a review for a book.

Copying or printing from the book would not be allowed unless specifically permitted by writer.

2.3   READ Tokens

These are ERC-20 based tokens minted on a verified Ethereum Smart Contract. READ function as currency for this platform allowing users to transact without getting into hassles of sharing credit card or bank details with the website. Users would be free to purchase tokens from the exchange of their choice or can be traded or converted using other more popular cryptocurrencies like BTC or ETH.

Total 100 Million tokens would be generated. No more tokens can be generated after that.


3.   Token Distribution

An Ethereum Smart Contract to generate 100 Million will be deployed. Below is the distribution chart for the same –



3.1   Pre Sales

Total 20 million tokens will be sold directly to the investors in order to fund first level development of the project. Bright chances that by the time this whitepaper reached you, these tokens are already sold.

3.2   Marketing Activities

These tokens would be given directly to influential personalities on internet as a payment for their contribution in promoting this project.

3.3   Airdrop (Readers)

Subscribers registered as readers will be given 1000 READ per subscription. In order to qualify for the airdrop user would need to fulfil a set criteria to help us promote the project.

3.4   Airdrop (Writers)

Subscribers registered as writers will be given 5000 READ per subscription. In order to qualify as writer, user would need to share details of achievement as a part time or full time writer. Any users who has ever published a whitepaper, owns a blog older than 3 months or have contribute on slideshare or similar platform can also register as a writer.
We will do another round of airdrop in case we have any tokens leftover from Bounty Program or Airdrop.

4.   Airdrop Mechanism

Our whitelisting process requires detailed verification of user profiles along with validation of claimed actions which would take much longer than standard time taken by other airdrops. We have decided to do a deferred airdrop in sequential manner. Following the FIFO (First In First Out) mechanism, users those register will be awarded tokens first.

Airdrop will complete in 15 weeks after initiation and would be done only once a week. Airdrop registration will be open for 15 days only and users registering on day one would be awarded tokens in first week, similarly users registering on day two will be awarded tokens during second week airdrop and so on till the completion of 15 weeks.

5.   Transactions

READ Token being an ERC-20 token all transactions will be validated by Ethereum Network. Standard Ethereum transaction process would be followed for any READ based transaction.

5.1   Listing Fees

Besides ETH network fee ReaderNet would charge 1% listing fee from all writers and publishers. This amount would be sent directly to node owners supporting the platform.

6.   Storage Nodes

True power of any Blockchain based application lies in decentralization and not just a token backing a centralized platform. Keeping this into consideration we designed a purpose built storage node network (IPFS based). Anybody with 10000 READ to stake, ample storage, compute and internet bandwidth can run a storage node. These nodes would be responsible to store books, this network would function like a torrent networks where these nodes would be seeders. As soon as a book is published it would be pushed to these nodes and any reader downloading books will be served by these nodes.

6.1   Node Selection Criteria

A node to serve would automatically be selected by the network basis the following parameters –
•   Average Round Trip Time of the Request
•   Average Download Speed
•   Average Uptime
For any request, top 25 nodes will be selected to download the book to user device but this number would be customizable by end user.

6.2   Benefit


Node owners can earn READ tokens by running Storage Nodes. 100% of listing fee charged by the portal would be sent to node owners. Since every download request would be served by multiple nodes, payout would be divided in the proportion of data size served by the node.

For example :

Reader Bob bought a book from Writer Sam for the price of 100 READ. 1% of this payment would be deducted by the platform as listed fee and remaining shall be sent to Writer Sam in real time. Platform has 1 READ in its kitty parked against the pending download of this book.

Now, Reader Bob decides to download the book which is just 1 MB in size and basis the download criteria selected by Reader Bob his request matched only 4 nodes. In the order of serving following data was pushed by Nodes to Reader Bob’s devices

Node 1      -    400 KB      -   40%
Node 2      -   200 KB      -   20%
Node 3      -   250 KB      -   25%
Node 4      -   150 KB      -   15%

Basis the service pattern above listing fee of 1 READ would be divided in to similar percentage and sent to respective node owners. So, node owners will receive listing fee like this –

Node 1      -    0.4 READ      -   40%
Node 2      -   0.2 READ      -   20%
Node 3      -   0.25READ      -   25%
Node 4      -   0.15 READ      -   15%





This is good.
Something useful to follow.
We’re all can learning a great deal other, to use.
So, let’s monitor  the great work.
Project of you have a vast array of knowledge to share.
657  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: November 29, 2017, 02:02:22 AM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?

I think, this is the phenomena.
The advent of Bitcoin has brought a new wave of hope.
Bitcoin is giving the opportunity for unemployment to build things which means (beneficial).
658  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is not gambling on: November 28, 2017, 01:45:11 AM
I don't think Bitcoin is gambling, but open boxes in games definitely is Grin.
More like stock exchange.

I agree U.
Obviously, Bitcoin is a virtual currency that was created in 2009 by the alias Satoshi Nakamoto. Individual Bitcoins are created by computer code, So its not gambling.
But, part in similar scheme.
These types of invest`s are attractive to gamblers due to the high potential win and to the vast number of potential outcomes.
659  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa yang menentukan harga bitcoin? on: November 27, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
Saya setuju dengan kalian, pada intinya adalah:
1. Kurangnya Pasokan,
2. Permintaan terhadap Bitcoin sangat luas dan tinggi sekali,
3. Selain yang dua diatas "Bergabungnya Investor kelas dunia pun sangat berpengaruh terhadap kenaikan harga Bitcoin.
660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is BTC for you? on: November 26, 2017, 03:10:06 AM
Bitcoin is the future for currencys. As my point of view.
I Agree.
Bitcoin is an open platform upon anyone with a creative idea and build.
I hope for the Bitcoin technology to become the global currency for would be the of futures.
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