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641  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: December 02, 2014, 01:53:47 PM
It pisses me off the way people announce that they're going to make an announcement shortly. If they already know what's going to be announced, why can't they just announce it immediately.

Sorry, we're just giving our users a heads up. AMHash will make the announcement very soon. Smiley

-Sahra

That's understandable then since it's not your announcement to make.
642  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] CLOUDMINR.IO Mining contracts || 0.0013 BTC / GHS on: December 02, 2014, 01:44:30 PM
Ignore this obsessive-compulsive nutcase.

Itīs one of several sock puppets.

Thanks for the advice, I've now put you on ignore.

For those of you who are not obsessive-compulsive nutcase's, check your payout for all your cloud mining contracts and make sure you are getting what you should be getting.
643  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: December 02, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
AMHash Update

AMHash will be shortly pausing sales in anticipation of a new (awesome!) announcement.

If you own AMHash on Hashie, congrats Smiley -- you'll love the announcement! If you don't own AMHash yet, you have 1 hour left where you can still buy AMHash.

-Sahra

Stop teasing! What?

It pisses me off the way people announce that they're going to make an announcement shortly. If they already know what's going to be announced, why can't they just announce it immediately.
644  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter Prisma (>=1.4 T/device, 0.75-0.78 W/G, <1 BTC/T, October Shipping) on: December 02, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
Phasebird, as an AM shareholder, I think this is simply not good enough. You have only addressed a part of the problem. The other part of the problem is your lack of communication. You should be checking this forum multiple times per day and should probably be making at least one post here a day.

It you can't do this, then you need to find someone who can. Your lack of communication has pretty much destroyed AM's reputation in my opinion.
645  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] CLOUDMINR.IO Mining contracts || 0.0013 BTC / GHS on: December 02, 2014, 12:56:15 PM
Did you guys get paid the correct amount this week? Have you been getting paid the correct amount in previous weeks? It turns out PBmining has been underpaying it's customers for a while and nobody even noticed.
646  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: December 01, 2014, 10:07:35 PM
I don't think he's screwing AM at all.  It looks like he's just stating the facts as he knows them.  He's saying that the BE200 is going to be worthless soon, and AMHash is the fastest way to sell the chips they're sitting on before that happens.

It's Rockminer's job to sell the AMHash contracts on Havelock. Do you see AMHash selling any AMHash contracts on Havelock? I don't and I haven't seen any for the past two weeks. New contracts have been available to purchase for less time than they've been unavailable. If you paid me to sell mining contracts and I just gave some half-arsed attempt at the beginning and then just completely stopped trying, would you feel that I'd ripped you off? Unless Rockminer is working for free (and ripping off its own shareholders) then it's getting paid by AM to sell contracts that it clearly isn't even trying to sell.

Now this could all be based on obsolete information, in which case they're all still incompetent for not informing us.

The entire system of automated buyback and giving away free hashrate for people willing to purchase more screams of upward price manipulation so that they can get the most $ the fastest from their customers.  Only short term traders will be able to make $ or Bitcoins.  Maybe in the future they will offer a AMHash1->AMHash2 upgrade opportunity that won't make it so bad for purchasers.  I would think they would have to instead of just shutting down AMHash1 with a total loss for purchasers when the miners become unprofitable.  Time will tell.  I'm curious to see how this will play out.

I don't know what you're talking about when you say AM are giving away free hash rate. Also, AMHash2 has been and gone. We're waiting for AMHash3 to show up. With regards to the termination of contracts, we have the following info:

If the calculated payout after fee substraction is less than or equal to zero, the contract will be suspended. If the number of subsequent days suspended reaches 10, the contract terminates.

So no, there won't be any upgrades and rightly so. Why would they get an upgrade? If your Prisma actually worked properly, would you have expected AM to give you a free gen 4 or gen 5 miner when the Prisma became unprofitable?
647  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: December 01, 2014, 08:41:04 PM
With all the announcements of far superior miners coming in 2015, I think AM is selling everything they can now before the difficulty goes exponential again.  Don't make the mistake of thinking we're going to see any sort of long term difficulty stabilization.  We won't.

AM will be getting their gen 4 28nm samples back in about two weeks so it makes even more sense for them to shift as much gen 3 hashing power as quickly as possible.

This situation is just bizarre. Especially when you consider quotes like this from Rockxie:

For AM shareholders:
1 AM has lots of BE200s in stock,if we can't convert them to devices asap in their life time,these chips will be nothing,then it will be a big loss.Obviously,In the present case AMHash is the best choice for AM to sell large quantities chips and devices.

2 Cloud Mining is trend for bitcoin mining in future. If AMHash1 is successful, BE300 also can be benefit from this project.

3 Only if AM make profits,dividends is possible.

Now, by all appearances, he's not even trying to sell AMHash contracts, so by his own words he's deliberately screwing over AM.
648  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: December 01, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
well lets hope it all works out for the best and that we can trust them. Maybe like other people say they not popular enough to sell hash on their own  Huh

That's a pretty strange notion considering that ASICminer is the oldest and one of the most well known ASIC manufacturers.

The fact is, AMHash is simply not even trying to sell hashing power otherwise the contracts would be permanently available to purchase, they would advertise and they would promote it in the "Services" sub-forum like all the other cloud mining services instead of the "Securities" sub-forum.

There are only four scenarios which make any sense to me.

1) The mine burnt down.
2) AM decided they'd rather self-mine than sell the hashing power, contrary to everything they've been telling us.
3) Rockminer is incompetent when it comes to sales (and support given the lack of responses and updates).
4) Rockminer is deliberately ripping off AM (which would be weird given that Rockxie has over 5000 shares).

649  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: December 01, 2014, 10:23:31 AM
He is not interested in FIAT ponzis.

He is not interested in -ve payment of CEX.io.

He is not interested in low payment of HaveLock scam stocks, e.g. AM hash.

The only thing he is interested in is going to every anonymous cloud mining thread to promote his HaveLock scam companies, which demands to be legit, but operates out of the reach of legitimate jurisdiction.

Why would he be interested in FIAT ponzis?

CEX.io's negative payment is in line with their published information.

AMHash's payments are not low and are also in line with their published information. Also, it's not a Havelock scam company, it's a service from ASICminer (the oldest bitcoin ASIC manufacturer) which has been around for longer than Havelock.

Puppet doesn't give a shit about Havelock or AMHash, he thinks you're better off just buying bitcoin than mining it.
650  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 30, 2014, 08:05:31 PM
I have a few questions too.

1) Is Hashie receiving compensation in some form from AM in exchange for selling AMHash?
2) Does the number of contracts sold as displayed on Havelock include the contracts Hashie are selling?
3) When will AMHash start selling contracts again?
4) Why isn't the website being kept up-to-date?
651  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: November 30, 2014, 07:20:59 PM
How much is the return of CEX/AM Hash last week against a certain hash power ? Do u have any data ?

You can view the historical data for AMHash on the Havelock website. Just click the Dividends tab.

Code:
Announcement Date 	Payment Date 	Amount (BTC/Unit)
2014-11-30 2014-11-30 0.00000816
2014-11-29 2014-11-29 0.00000806
2014-11-28 2014-11-28 0.00000807
2014-11-27 2014-11-27 0.00000807
2014-11-26 2014-11-26 0.00000813
2014-11-25 2014-11-25 0.00000822
2014-11-24 2014-11-24 0.00000805
2014-11-23 2014-11-23 0.00000791
2014-11-22 2014-11-22 0.00000784
2014-11-21 2014-11-21 0.00000784
2014-11-20 2014-11-20 0.00000802
2014-11-19 2014-11-19 0.00000817
2014-11-18 2014-11-18 0.00000847
2014-11-17 2014-11-17 0.00000859
2014-11-16 2014-11-16 0.00000842
2014-11-15 2014-11-15 0.00000850
2014-11-14 2014-11-14 0.00000873
2014-11-13 2014-11-13 0.00000879
2014-11-12 2014-11-12 0.00000845
2014-11-11 2014-11-11 0.00000830
2014-11-10 2014-11-10 0.00000824
2014-11-09 2014-11-09 0.00000805
2014-11-08 2014-11-08 0.00000795
2014-11-07 2014-11-07 0.00000799
2014-11-06 2014-11-06 0.00000788
2014-11-05 2014-11-05 0.00000822
2014-11-04 2014-11-04 0.00000895
2014-11-03 2014-11-03 0.00000901
2014-11-02 2014-11-02 0.00000894
2014-11-01 2014-11-01 0.00000898
2014-10-31 2014-10-31 0.00000927

652  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: November 30, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
They could be holding some BTC back for when the difficulty decreases. That way they can still pay out if they make a loss.
653  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 30, 2014, 05:41:37 PM
"If you can resell your contracts, how is that any different to reselling your hardware?"

It is different in that usually you can sell contrats only at the place where you bought them and under the conditions specified by cloudmining company. And the company has to be there.. Wink for you to be able to sell your contrats Smiley

Assuming the service is legit, most people wouldn't care if they could only sell their contracts at a specific place as long as there was enough trading volume to provide fairly stable prices.

as mentioned, a cloud is only worth looking into if you can change your designated pool.
trading GH/s on a cloud service which mines on it's own pool is merely; the user, paying for a worker to mine the pool...

It should be obvious that most people here simply don't care about such things.
654  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: November 30, 2014, 05:11:10 PM
Hashie is a new cloud mining service by ASICMiner and Rockminer, and you can claim 10 GH free (Limited time only) when you signup Smiley  

ASICMiner has a good reputation in the Bitcoin world, and the price per GHs on Hashie is the cheapest!

Stop lying Angry

1. Hashie is not at all a service by ASICMiner and Rockminer. They started out saying they have hash power. Now they are AM hash reseller.

2. Hashie is not the cheapest in any way. The cheapest is cloudmining.website offering 0.001BTC/Ghs.

He was saying that Hashie is cheaper than Havelock for buying AMHash and he's already been told by Hashie to stop spamming his referral link. As for cloudmining.website you're promoting, that's almost certainly a ponzi.
655  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 30, 2014, 04:59:23 PM
you are always better off buying real hardware than a cloud which can float away at any minute, leaving you penniless.

What ASIC manufacturers don't offer cloud mining and have no plans to offer cloud mining?

Remember back in june when btc was about 1000 the mining gear was selling second hand for three times the new price on ebay.

That's just ripping off idiots though.

just remember, whatever you buy, there is always that opportunity of resale value on your hardware that you won't have on a cloud.

even if the cloud service offers p2p trading of the GH/s that you rent/own, it's not always an indicator that they are legit.

If you can resell your contracts, how is that any different to reselling your hardware?
656  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from 0.0012 BTC / GH | NEW: AMHash | FREE 10 GH on: November 30, 2014, 02:07:49 PM
Hashie.co monitoring is here. Status: Paying.

A review site that only reviews cloud mining services with referral schemes and links to them with their referral link? Yeah, that seems totally trustworthy.
657  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: November 30, 2014, 08:56:49 AM
thats why i tend to look for cloud mining that offers lifetime contracts or at the least 5 years plus. I dont do that 6 month 1 year or 2 years cause i dont see profit period.

5 year contracts are a tell-tale sign of a ponzi
658  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 30, 2014, 06:17:13 AM
Well shit,

AMHash is cheaper per GHs over at Hashie, and you get 10 GHs free to sign-up Smiley

Of course it is. Unlike AMHash, Hashie is actually trying to sell AMHash contracts.
659  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: November 30, 2014, 06:11:34 AM
Well shit,

AMHash is cheaper per GHs over at Hashie, and you get 10 GHs free to sign-up Smiley

Of course it is. Unlike AMHash, Hashie is actually trying to sell AMHash contracts and their sales person isn't completely incompetent.
660  Economy / Services / Re: PB Mining -- 5 year mining contracts! on: November 29, 2014, 09:40:37 AM
They have acres and acres of solar power array.

Have they? Have you seen them? Do you have any proof of their existence or is this like the miners they "have"? Let's just say they have got acres and acres of solar power, do you think they got them for free and are willing to give away the electricity for free? Do you think they're running a charity or a non-profit organisation?
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