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641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 06, 2014, 06:21:25 AM

Quote from: Craigscoin
It is really different. The investors who actually gave me their money and the investors who mined the coin.  

I dont know about your time at Minerals and I have not looked into it, so I wont and I have never mentioned it.  My only concern is craigscoin.

So, where to from here?  How can we assure investors that you are not going anywhere.   ummmm let me think, there must be a way.



rustynailer, if CRAIG had jumped 3x or more from its ICO launch, as you and others had hoped, instead of dropped, would you have donated a 10% share of **your** CRAIG coin holdings to the dev as a token of your appreciation for his work (just as you're asking, no demanding, repeatedly, that he commit 10% of **his** BTC to artificially, temporarily prop up the coin -- for, what, your exit? -- instead of waiting for the market to naturally and sustainably turn CRAIG's way)?

Please answer directly... preferably without looking like a hypocrite.



Please tell me exactly where I have been hypocritical or answered indirectly.  You asked me this before and I answered.  But if you want me to repeat word for word, then here goes. 

It wouldn't matter if the price was going up, down or sideways.  I think the person running the show should have some investment in it, otherwise what is his incentive to carry on.  He has got his btc, he wont make any more money by continuing to work on  craigscoin. 

And this is not a premine, all coins were sold at ico.  So what was the plan?  Was he not going to own any coins at all. 

And if he doesn't see it as a good investment to buy craigscoin at 1/5th of what we paid him for them, then maybe it is not a good investment.  Only he would know.



Okay lets clear things up a little. Clearly you missed some of my posts about buyback.

I already bought back CraigsCoins for more than 6 BTCs. If you feel that this is not enough, please tell me how much do you feel reasonable, and why?

Yes I do feel that this is not enough.  How much is enough, i'm not sure.  But it needs to be enough for you to keep working on this.  Otherwise what incentive do you have to hang around.  And it will also show other investors that you are willing to invest in your own coin.  You raised over 430 btc and only spending 6 btc of that on getting your own coin shows a lack of faith in its future.  

I would like craigscoin to succeed but under its current structure it would be too easy for you to just walk away after the inevitable pump.  

And what about the roadmap ahead are you seriously going to spend some of that btc on developing the coin when you have such a little investment in it.

So if the community here is happy about that then no problems, I wont bring it up again,  but I will getting out as soon as we get back to ico prices, if we do.





First of all, please deliver a good product, this is the basic thing.
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ARCHcoin [ARCH] – The Profit Network on: October 05, 2014, 05:27:24 AM
Received my coins.
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 04, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
wikileaks

Guys it will help a lot if you send them promo e-mails telling them about the coin (to wikileaks, to whoever else), I just cant handle that many task same time. I will focus on coin promotion right after core stuff, bugs will be fixed.  This right now requires my full attention.

Good work man, maybe you can hire some guys to do non core stuff.

@DEV, can you buy back some coins so we know you are with us, it can help market price too, the price goes down so sharply because some guys think you will run away.


Let the guys who think I will run away - run away.

P.s. dont do bold. I read all comments bold or no.


Here is an example of dev paying lip service to the people who gave him 433 btc.



Man, you got 433 btc already, just spend a little bit of them to help investor very much, substantially, these money are not yours,they are investors', they trust you, so you can't abandon your investors, let me say this thing in other words, if you buy back some coins, it will bump the market price, and you can make more money, it's a win-win solution, what do you think?
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 04, 2014, 01:40:18 PM
wikileaks

Guys it will help a lot if you send them promo e-mails telling them about the coin (to wikileaks, to whoever else), I just cant handle that many task same time. I will focus on coin promotion right after core stuff, bugs will be fixed.  This right now requires my full attention.

Good work man, maybe you can hire some guys to do non core stuff.

@DEV, can you buy back some coins so we know you are with us, it can help market price too, the price goes down so sharply because some guys think you will run away.
645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 04, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
wikileaks

Guys it will help a lot if you send them promo e-mails telling them about the coin (to wikileaks, to whoever else), I just cant handle that many task same time. I will focus on coin promotion right after core stuff, bugs will be fixed.  This right now requires my full attention.

Good work man, maybe you can hire some guys to do non core stuff.
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 03, 2014, 01:56:16 PM
Yeah saw it. It will still require a month or two for this law to pass.

What amused me is the authors inability to do simple math:

Quote
It is expected to include penalties for the use and creation of methods of generating cryptocurrencies, specifically 50,000 rubles (US$1260) for individuals, 100,000 rubles (US$1520) for officials and up to one million rubles (US$25,200) for businesses.


So you have a month or two, then what?

Do we have to find a new dev?


Ever heared of VPN ?

Can you buy back some coins, thus we are on the same boat.
647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 03, 2014, 01:23:58 PM
We should do something to bump this coin.
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XTC] TileCoin| BTER.COM ICS October 1-Bill Payments/Investment ĐApp on: October 03, 2014, 03:05:58 AM
If ICO ends lets say.... today

Will trading be possible tomorrow?

It's a dumper, this guy just want a quick profit.
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 03, 2014, 02:12:26 AM
Panic sell!!!!
650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain on: October 03, 2014, 02:09:25 AM
I just try to transfer .8m SYS to Bittrex, confirmation is so quick, great work, DEV.
651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 02, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Takes alot more than writing code to be succes.
I said before, hire someone who knows what to do.
Soon it will be forked and we will be left bagholding.
Looks like fail, will look for exit.

Do you know what to do? Hire who?

Man, just concentrate on your work as planed, when you deliver a good product, price will go up natrually, ignore the FUD and complaints, there are many boy investors.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 02, 2014, 03:10:32 PM
What the hell, it is only 645 sat now!!!
653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 02, 2014, 08:55:08 AM
Without promo/PR/Usability this coin will lose its pride, already lost over 60%.
Dev u need to do something-its make me pain.

I love how you guys telling me to do something, but nothing specific. Please tell me what exactly should I do, instead of continue development?

In addition to development it's time for the marketing campaign to get Craig more exposure and get the ad system used by ad-posters and ad-seekers. I think price would be less fragile with heavier btc volume. That would come with greater exposure.
It's not time for Adertising and marketing. Not untill site/wallet finished.


Agree with this - the best advertising/marketing is a great working product that sells itself.

+1

AD is a great market, but first we should deliver a great product.
654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ORTHOCOIN - [ORTHO] Full of features - POD 3/5 - x13 - Launched on: October 02, 2014, 08:21:49 AM
Price will go up soon
655  Local / 山寨币 / WISE 币现在ICO进行中,Bittrex担保,确保回购和价值增长 on: October 02, 2014, 07:09:47 AM

ICO 会通过Bittrex进行, 提醒一下,我们只是为开发提供担保,但并不背书这个币。在交易之前请自己做调查,下面是这个ICO的条款,其他的条件不需要。
* 我们会检查钱包
* 我们会拥有所有预挖的币----500万
*  在ICO结束后所有没有卖出去的币都会被销毁。
* ICO会持续8天时间,从十月四号开始
* 除了ICO的条款,如果最少250万没有卖出去,ICO宣布失败。
* 如果ICO失败,我们会回购所有的币。
* 一旦ICO结束,我们会检查钱包,块链,块浏览器
        * Bittrex 在三个月内会保管60%的ICO资金
        * WISE 团队会公开账户余额
           (这会让投资者监视账户余额的增长)  
        * 每个月提款一次。
回购币会被Bittrex销毁。
* 作为担保,我们会保管资金三天。
* 在担保和ICO结束之前,不能交易
* 所有的购买都是最终的,没有退款,如果你参加ICO,说明你已经同意上面的条款.
WISE 加密货币
符号 : WISE
是时间得到WISE了
唯一确保买回的程序
增长的资金
低风险的投资
自己筹集的开发资金
安全的硬件钱包
可持续价值增长
回购计划

WISE 长期项目
货币概念背后的密码是缓解的一个加密货币购买的下跌可能在初始化期间为100%提供持续的增长保证投资一段时间。根据我们的模型,这是实现通过智能多元化的投资,贸易和主要有持续增长的规划保护。
混合货币创造/自我维持的增长方式加密货币是明智的先河。
确保增长,每周增长 -WISE Crypto Currency.
WISE,是一个确保增长的机会.
它是怎么工作的?
明智的货币是硬币密码100%出售分布模型。
当你获得智慧的硬币你购买的是一枚硬币的一个持续的增长模型。
独特的特点作出明智的一个有价值的命题。智慧人的一部分,将ICO对聪明的人提供一个持续的收入来源。增加值每星期。
一个独特的智慧特征将提供回购担保价值回购的机会,聪明的每月提供价值的保护在任何其他硬币不可用。变聪明就像从一个购买越来越多的机会和保护。提高止损,每周的生长,保证回购,和持续的价值提升。这是买回来的硬币钱包明智的硬破坏使可能减少可用的每个月,促进剩余的钱币的价值。
明智的是这个功能的唯一加密货币。明智的硬币钱包保证努力至少60%的所有聪明的硬币可以买回来在任何时间,增加每星期到100%超越覆盖所有的硬币,并且总是可以从那些想要回售买回来的硬币。
出售资产的明智的硬币40%将投资的钱包。工作的钱包用来提供一个返回货币投向专有混合市场资金,挖掘服务,交易和投机的机会,这是钱包,将提供回报的同时保持主要资产,有限的风险,保护原始本金,计算的曝光和持续的回报。这意味着,在投资的回报是支付到硬的钱包,覆盖率增加,直到超过投资额的100%。从那里继续成长,你的利润。
我们采用这种方法来达到在短期稳定性最有希望的途径,消除风险作为它的进展,增加价值,明智的投资者放心。一旦回购价值增加到原来的购买价格就成了100%放心投资的持续增长,随着时间的推移。换句话说,明智的货币增长的价值随着时间的推移,没有不利方面保证持有什么那么聪明成熟后自动。
组合投资的权力。-通过再投资收入的一部分额外的投资组合的影响,发生将保证这两个硬币和回购价值增长。更多的投资使得每一期的 更多的回报,随着时间的推移,效益和增长加速。
明智的硬币,将可以在一次交易为保证回购的回购计划增加值月。回购计划的计算在一个160天的增长曲线允许的投资基金提供一个返回初始化。聪明的是那些寻求增长的价值在其购买时间和不为那些寻求一个不切实际的即时回报的。
你持有的时间越长,智慧更会令你在这。[美]这是因为每个硬币卖回被摧毁。[你]被卖回硬币每个明智的人奖励控股因为少硬币和持续的收入硬币钱包意味着每个剩余硬硬币变得更有价值的更快。明智的硬币可以在公开市场上交易,因为它是100%通过人群的资金销售没有矿工抛硬币。所以下面的初始购买成本,销售将是一个明智的建议联合国。
明智的投资是加密货币硬币产生持续的收入,共享所有的人在增加回购价值形式。它可以在公开交易所交易在任何时间或卖回给聪明的硬的钱包一年12次。卖回硬币销毁增加价值的那些选择持有长期收益的持续的收入来自投资活动提供。
问题 -为什么买WISE,这是个双赢的选择。
答案 -这是很容易的。那些购买的明智的购买到一个放心地增加价值的新型货币的机会。除了这些保证明智的硬币可以在公开市场上交易的话。人的价值的聪明的买家是不受在采硬币操作方法和损失的市场条件。成熟后提供额外的保护层。他们同时也分享了由明智的价值得到增加的支持者和投资提供支持保证增长,仅提供明智的货币所有者自。这是一个双赢的市场价值超过如果保证值可以出售的利润,如果市价低于保险价值可以卖回目前的保证值一个月一次。是时间买一些WISE了 .
明确回购
因为智慧是一个完全分布式的货币。一个月一次明智的交易低于目前的保证值将买回来了。这种方法的激励保护投资者。回购计划是这样设计的,有人卖回到期前或低于目前的保证值则持有人通过成熟会在行动中获得的经验损失。有智慧的人会买回来的硬币从公开市场销售低于现行回购价值通过成熟和消灭那些硬币所产生的净增益和加速的明智的货币持有者的利润。
任何低于保证值或在到期日之前将不会获得这一行动而持有者将获得销售。毁坏硬币也将减少流通硬币而增加的共同的价值观和买回来的智慧和力量的加速值结果。
投资
多元化投资是成功的关键。通过一个专有的混合保守和投机将出现投资持续保证持续的回报。
收益
增长收益,停止损失
每周增长的价值
确保回购
销毁回购币
价值持续增长
符号- WISE
总量– 5,000,000
100% - 发布
没有卖出会被销毁
回购的会被销毁
工作量证明/股权证明
10个确认
股权证明要60个确认
股权证明利息,2%
块时间,90秒
WISE很好
除此之外这个币还有一些特别的功能
第一 – 如果你没有得到的图标你会坐失良机。
因为没有矿工把你最可能要付出更多的代价
加入对明智的硬币的价值增长的ICO发行后。
因为智慧将在公开市场买卖的ICO价值的硬币
每个月,摧毁他们的价格将继续升值。
创造审美价值专属的硬币。
所以如果你错过船票价将增加与增加的价值。
第二 – WISE钱币投资多元化的方法是优于其他硬币。
你知道投资黄金法则就是不要把所有的鸡蛋放在一个篮子里。
多元化投资的各个方面为多途径明智的硬币
减轻不利的潜力和保护任何一个投资失败。
第三 – 用一个小的最大5mil硬币提供和破坏
非出售ICO硬币,加上持续的回购,低于面值的硬币的破坏,聪明的硬币就更独家持有人将随着时间的流逝。这意味着剩下的明智的硬币社区获得更大的利润份额持续。
 
不要错过,是时间买WISE了
WISE众筹信息
价格 – 0.00020000BTC
100% 股权证明
推特 - @WiseCrypto
网站 – 很快
IRC - #wisecoin
InsertNameHere - Founder
Biohammer - 创始人
MarciG - 管理员
KaptKode - 编码
LemmyK - 算法
很快
苹果钱包
Windows 钱包
很快

新闻
SmallFishCrypto - http://hchq.com/?p=181

有明确增长因素的山寨币
是时间买WISE了!
准备好

656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - rootEX™ announced - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS/PoI on: October 02, 2014, 02:53:14 AM
delay again?

Keep cool, take a drink  Grin

I trust DEV too, new tech need time to mature.
657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CRAIG] CraigsCoin | CLASSIFIED ADS ON BLOCKCHAIN 5+ POD BITTREX, CRYPTSY on: October 01, 2014, 08:43:26 PM
Updates on the project? price is tanking, no updates or anything?
We need a clear roadmap for the future, for now we just know you are making the wallet fancy but what about real development, marketing, bringing the coin to the masses? this is turning into one of the worst ICO's ever, the charts look really bad at the moment, 3 btc takes us to 100 satoshi. Why no buy support? Investors don't know about the coin or it's future plans. Twitter barely used, which is usually a powerful tool to attract investors. Why is the twitter account so low in followers and activity?
658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain on: October 01, 2014, 06:52:09 AM
Buy low, sell high, profit. Those 300-400 satoshi swings are making me money.

You will miss the train.
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - rootEX™ announced - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS/PoI on: September 30, 2014, 03:29:43 AM
He has 16 minutes to make his dead line before some one dumps and crashes the market  Cry

Yes. Sell it now. Only 3 BTC buying orders...sell it while you can yet

Go sell me your coins  Grin

No, I'm first Grin

Guys, sell it to me! Found this strange post: https://twitter.com/geoc0in/status/503010561299603457

Evidence?
660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] RootCoin [ROOT] - rootEX™ announced - ANON-tx using BitKey™- PoW/PoS/PoI on: September 30, 2014, 02:17:00 AM
@bitsta, can you post the new roadmap?
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