Even a fkn scumbag like bob should know who jorrrr is Also this is what cashmen said when he took over, that he IS the biggest bagholder... where do you get your news from? Internet Explorer?
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i dont really know how i can give u proof of trust ?
I said it allready many times, to find trust back in cloak we all just need a time!
We working hard on solution...we study the newest posa3 code + we looking for finding/funding additional dev who can help our dev to finish the code = posa3 + one market. X11joe is still in business trip as i know so if he come back i hope he will support our work aswell!
All our progress i will post here and then you can alone decide if you want trust back in cloak or not!
PS: You see i dont hype the coin and give only truth info to you! You could see this allready as small step in right way! hmmm I hate to say it but your words don't sound reassuring... you say ''I hope he will support our work'' x11joe is meant to be the one developing OneMarket so if I was a cloak investor I would be more than just hoping I would be seriously concerned about those words as they indicate that he may not even be coming back to cloak. Well a guy like you that reads this and the old thread so often, it was common knowledge that x11joe is on a longer business trip. So how should cashmen know if he did not have a chance to talk to him yet?
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Why cloak are disabled from bittrex?
[21:47:52] <cashmen> why is cloak disable? [21:48:03] <bittrex-ryan> it alerted [21:48:05] <bittrex-ryan> thats all i know [21:48:11] <cashmen> what is alerted? [21:48:33] <bittrex-ryan> it means something went wonky and shut itself off for security purposes [21:48:40] <bittrex-ryan> I don't have access to see anymore and i think the guys are flying [21:49:13] <cashmen> who can me answer what security problems should cloak have? [21:49:35] <bittrex-ryan> he's not here right now [21:49:37] <bittrex-ryan> bbiab so we wait now for mr bbiab i think bbiab means -> be back in a bit
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Have you reached out for btcgraphics yet.... maybe he will reactivate cloakdesk , now alty has gone
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Like i said before why Dan Metcalf? If PoSA is working why should we give him a blueprint to it so he can use it in his XC and second why do why also pay him for that blueprint :p
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Why are you keeping that many coins at an Exchange? thought people learned from Mt.Gox
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Yes nice innovations but still, where is the pre-hype about them? Are you a fibrecoin bagholder and want to offload coins? yeah I do hold Fibre but as coin has dropped ill continue to accumulate...and if you call the previous ATH a pump by a pump group... I doubt it. Look at the volume over that period it was barley 35-40btc to move coin to that ATH over the space of 5 days. the coin has a bright future, Rev 2 in beta this Saturday along with other news. Could you please take your Fibre talk to the Fibre thread... this is disregarding
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And hope if they work something out, that they really found a trustless system
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ok fine......has anyone approached mr atlas ?
Should be Alty´s job as he is the one in charge and with the source ^^
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Nice pump and dump. more cloak bagholders now haha!!
Cloak has become a joke - it's only used for weekend dumps these days. LOL. Who would even wanna buy this thing , a dead stinking corpse of a coin, raped and destroyed by pump and dump groups long time ago. Actually it is quite sad that most alts are used as toys by P&D mafia. And still all you butthurt people show up in the thread.
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Well even that i do trust mrgnome... dunno if he is the right after the more then friendly breakup they had. Still voting for Kristov Atlas if someone can gets a hand on him.
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it's supposedly trustless anon using ring escrow but pending an audit of course.
So who is that auditor that every user of CLOAK would blindly trust with their money? And how would that be "trustless"? And what would stop the devs from inserting a backdoor into the closed source AFTER the audit? Or would all development stop after the audit? [21:43:34] <@alty> Well, why not let the community select an auditor then as a first step Also, I can tell you didn't download or test the new wallet at all since you said it's just a UI redesign when the UI is practically the same. And that's silly, what would stop ANY closed source coin or software from inserting a backdoor? Kristov Atlas if he is available? Dan Metcalf would be a good choice as well. sure let the main dev of another alt have a look into the code ... you must be kidding me
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it's supposedly trustless anon using ring escrow but pending an audit of course.
So who is that auditor that every user of CLOAK would blindly trust with their money? And how would that be "trustless"? And what would stop the devs from inserting a backdoor into the closed source AFTER the audit? Or would all development stop after the audit? [21:42:53] <svenp> who will be auditing it? [21:42:57] <Blink^> ^ [21:43:06] <DITitit> because you would have to trust that person(s) Blink^ [21:43:09] <DaveyJones> id say first the audit... after that let the community decide [21:43:28] <Blink^> w/o any audit or checks, it is nothing but a GUI change and promises [21:43:34] <@alty> Well, why not let the community select an auditor then as a first step [21:43:40] <@cashmen> Smiley Also, I can tell you didn't download or test the new wallet at all since you said it's just a UI redesign when the UI is practically the same. I can read the IRC myself, thanks. You didn't answer my question though. How would an audit in any way make CLOAK trustless if it remains closed source and the devs can make any changes they want at any time without anyone ever noticing? Trustless and closed source are mutually exclusive. Comon guys, They were honest enough to reveal the first Audit and in turn put their entire coin at stake to begin with, I think this has already proved enough honesty and integrity from alty!!! true
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And that's silly, what would stop ANY closed source coin or software from inserting a backdoor?
That's EXACTLY my point. That's why no closed source coin can ever be trustless. I don't get it. Why would open-source be a requirement of trustless anonymity? If it works then it works, which the audit will determine. It's really not that complicated. If you have to trust someone/-thing, it's not trustless. Even if the auditor would declare the current code "trustless", you still would have to trust his judgement and honesty, and also trust the devs to not introduce new flaws(or even intentional backdoors) into the code with a later update. That's why open source is so important in the crypto community. I will agree... but that is to happen when the coin got its name back, so other copycats dont pump their coins with it
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it's supposedly trustless anon using ring escrow but pending an audit of course.
So who is that auditor that every user of CLOAK would blindly trust with their money? And how would that be "trustless"? And what would stop the devs from inserting a backdoor into the closed source AFTER the audit? Or would all development stop after the audit? [21:43:34] <@alty> Well, why not let the community select an auditor then as a first step Also, I can tell you didn't download or test the new wallet at all since you said it's just a UI redesign when the UI is practically the same. And that's silly, what would stop ANY closed source coin or software from inserting a backdoor? Kristov Atlas if he is available?
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bought yesterday at 9000s sold today at 20000s = 24h profit 100% haha thx go to fuder!
congratulations with your first cloak profit after months of bagholding! the butthurt is strong in this one fella
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If you guys could rather just let this thread die if you think the coin is dead .... that would be great... but somehow you all look like still waiting for miracles
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Cloakdesk yes, cloakcoin no. Also, what happened to Alty? He says they're about to release the open source a few days ago and then disappears again.
alty being alty
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Fake announcements + www.cloakcoin.com is down www.cloakdesk.com has the NEOScoin logo in it It breaks my mind that this coin is still traded at 14k and not 10 satoshi like it should be. It shows you how many dumb animals are still holding on to this piece of shit scamcoin.Exactly!!! you are being idiots.... btcgraphics who runs cloakdesk.com and i think also cloakcoin.com belongs said that he will put them down.
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