I think somebody/large force is keeping the price largely down for now - not sure how far any pump attempt will go...

It will take some time to attract the chinese to the XMR forum on 8BTC and build a community, meanwhile some further updates will improve the usability. It is just important to start and I think it is a good way to let XMR grow in China.

Jaxx's shitcoins wallet is piece of crap.  No wonder they couldn't integrate real cryptocoin like Monero. Their technical limit is the adding of only bitcoin copy-pasted shitcoins like dash and bytecoin lol.

https://www.altcointrading.net/jaxx-vulnerability

Is this refutable: http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf ?

Basic article about the research here: http://www.altcointoday.com/monero-transactions-traceable/

I failed to mention that the interview with Charlie Lee was conducted just prior to LTC being added to Coinbase (it was already listed on GDAX at the time). There was a lot of speculation at the time of that interview around whether or not LTC was going to be added to Coinbase. And Charlie Lee (Coinbase employee and LTC creator) was telling the interviewer essentially what he thought needed to happen before Coinbase would consider adding LTC - mainly they wanted to see good consistent high trading volume on GDAX.

I was simply trying to make the point (probably poorly) that if those are / were the conditions that got LTC listed on Coinbase (according to Charlie Lee). Then Monero will likely need to do the same. Which is get listed on GDAX first, and have good consistent high trade volume on GDAX.

Full disclosure, I've never owned LTC, and except for a few Aeon I mined, XMR is the only coin I hold. I don't even hold BTC anymore. I've been a (happy) XMR bag holder for 3 years now  

How is ringct better than ct with mixing and stealth addrrsses? Hint its not

Monero is already overtaken by waves in price considering that waves has too much big volume compared to monero. XMR need to do something.

Fluffy behavior was irresponsible.
No need to dismiss the truth with such terms as "concern trolling". It is a behavior well below the expectations one could reasonably form about the de facto communication leader of such a project.

Also, him proudly wearing UASF hats make me question is understanding of consensus mechanisms.

All in all, I think people of the Monero community should seriously consider make Fluffy less important in communication stuff. Fluffy loves to speak about Monero, good for him. Let's have other people do that also.

Oh there are absolutely big smart money players who were very disappointed in the NYC event, as well as some middling holders who, while I might not call them true believers, have been stalwart and steadfast holders, advocates, and in some degree contributors who were sufficiently off-put to change their allocations.  I know this with top-tier probability rather than with observational certainty.  

The real loss is that if the event has been better planned, more suitably advertised, and the content better curated, it could have been a watershed event in the development of Monero, as a software project, as a currency, as a protection of human rights, and as  community.  I hope that the next NYC Monero event will be better planned, further in advance, with better venue stability, a wider range of speakers, more dialogue, more topics, better food, and a 2013 Barolo (which, according to advance reports, is going to be an absolutely legendary vintage). Such an event has the potential, through Monero, of changing the world significantly for the better. A bigger after party would be nice too.

I think it would be good to organize Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sao Paolo, Frankfurt, Paris, London events as well, focusing on centers of fintech, broadly distributed.

Hmm.  Barolo futures may be a correlated asset.

I think the adoption rate was seriously hurt by the unprofessionalism shown, serious backers are easily scared off from childish acts that paint a project in a unstable light. I don't doubt that new comers were put off and many that were considering getting in were also put off and this is why the expected increase that the other top coins enjoyed was curtailed by this action.

With that being said the code is not effected and all this has done is put a damper on growth for awhile so it's not like the eco system and community are forever stunted as a result.

For me it is a net positive (although one I would not have liked to see) as it will give me time to accumulate some before the next spike. I doubt there was one true believer that has left because of this.

Exactly. That's the reason we will encounter MANY bears until 0.022-0.025. We could have broken this earlier very easily, but now we'll have to wait a long time until buy pressure is high enough to break that wall. Investing in XMR is very long term. Well, very long term in cryptotime, which is still much faster than the regular stock market :')

I'm one O short of a LAMBO. (Litecoin, Aeon, Monero, Bitcoin).

Everything is up on Polo.  I can't see a coin that isn't showing green.

Done.  Currently the votes are:

STEEM - 12%
DOGE -   21%
XMR   -   30%
ETC    -   37%

About 560 votes when I voted - we don't need too many more to top this.

I dont think somebody can tell that monero is not a good project. But it has not been a good investment for people this year for the people when all other shitty projects raised like hell.

HITBTC scares me.  I had issues with withdrawals in the past.

I have had the same confusion for the past month or so. People keep telling on different topics too that they are having issues withdrawing from poloniex whereas I have been using it (except the very crowded and almost organic DDOS times) and whenever I want to deposit or withdraw I did it with no issue. However number of people who say this has been rising that is for sure.

ETC is only a scamcoin if you think the original Ethereum ICO was a scam or something (not debating that). It's the original Ethereum blockchain without the insider bailout. Less of a scamcoin than ETH, not more, imo.