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641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 29, 2016, 01:07:16 PM
Hello tonych

Im running a witness and it crashes with this

events.js:160
     throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
     ^Error: write EPIPE
   at exports._errnoException (util.js:1022:11)
   at WriteWrap.afterWrite [as oncomplete] (net.js:804:14)


And how come it says this "distance above threshold, will witness" in the logs, but I havent told anyone about the witness ID/public-key, how come it is trying to witness?

Does it make any sense to run a byteball-relay as well as a witness, the logs seem to be the same, is the witness also doing relay?

Is this the entire error message?  Looks generic and no references to our code.
Also make sure you are running node.js v4 or above.

What witness does, it only posts small transactions just to prove its presence.  When another node trusts this witness, it will look for units posted by this witness to make sure it is on the legit version of the DAG and not being sybil'd.

Yes, the witness is also relaying transactions, like any full node for that matter.

I solved it, the above error happens when no /usr/sbin/sendmail is present, a crash in the mail.js
Then I added a dummy sendmail script to just save the "mail" to file instead as I dont want emails, but my script didnt read stdin, and then the above happened.

Ive now just removed the mail.js function to instead use console.log with a prefix .

Now then, witness, does it require funds/bytes available on its address to operate? I got "will witness" messages and then "no more funds" and a crash, so I sent a few kilobytes to the address of the witness and that worked better and I could see it wasting funds in the ebesr explorer. So a witness will earn fees but also has ro have some small funds to send its approvals?

Also, the witness code crashed on something else but am not close to computer now. In any case, the craah ahould cause the main process to also exit, now its hanging while nothing happens.

Also, another issue, Ive sewn transactions posted by my wallet containing a witness list, I assume this witness list will evwntually wnd uo in a witness list unit and be untamperable, but is it possible to make a modifyed wallet to send a witness list which is 12witnessws of my own choosing, my witnesses would see the transactio n right, modify the witness list to be 11 real ones plus my own and tske the transaction fee. The other witnesses wouldnt know anything, id just take all/many fees.
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 11:20:59 PM
Hah
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.4a on: December 27, 2016, 10:45:22 PM
where is the Linux version of 1.0.4a

We have some critical issues with compatibility.
It is uncertain, but I hope we manage to fix this by the end of the year.
Thank you, and in any case, have a good new year!
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 10:26:55 PM

Other than that, I edited my previous post. Was not allowed to post as I am new.

Is the witness list included in transaction and cannot be tampered with? 
I have no idea. The whole witness thing is a mystery to me. It actually looks like a potential vulnurability - have you seen the "schism" idea in the white paper? It's scary.
Schism?

Read the whitepaper but started skimming around the assets/bonds/funds talk - to economical for me.

Yeah, try CTRL+F "schism". When witnesses form a cartel and start to censor the chain or conduct other self interest behaviour the only way out of this is for the rest of the network to create other coin. Sounds like a fork. Nobody is talking about it because nobody has read the white paper.
Yup that is a schism, another term for fork.

645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 10:16:20 PM

Other than that, I edited my previous post. Was not allowed to post as I am new.

Is the witness list included in transaction and cannot be tampered with?  
I have no idea. The whole witness thing is a mystery to me. It actually looks like a potential vulnurability - have you seen the "schism" idea in the white paper? It's scary.
Schism?

Read the whitepaper but started skimming around the assets/bonds/funds talk - to economical for me.

EDIT: All clear, not a vulnerability, in the transaction is a witness_list_unit and for one I tested with it showed me this one oj8yEksX9Ubq7lLc+p6F2uyHUuynugeVq4+ikT67X6E= which has as text "Let there be light", nice. So it seems to keep a list of witnesses as unit and requires transactions to refer to these to be included in the main chain, and that cant be edited / proxied.
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 10:03:01 PM
I can run Bitcoin through Tor - does it make Bitcoin anonymous payment system?
Byteball at least has blackbytes so the amount is not seen on the global ledger/DAG. Which bitcoin doesnt have.

So, byteball over tor is more anonymous than bitcoin.

Other than that, I edited my previous post. Was not allowed to post as I am new.

Is the witness list included in transaction and cannot be tampered with?  
647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 09:47:01 PM
Agreed. Encrypted messaging and transfer of value anonymously as byteball's best chance of success. It does those two very well

I wondered about this too Smiley To make a private transaction you need to first pair your device with your counterparty. Doesn't it reveal your ip?
You could do it over tor onion services or i2p hidden "eepsites" I guess?

On the other issue:

Does the transaction include the list of witnesses in an immutable way? So the first witness could not act as a proxy and rewrite the witness list?
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.4a on: December 27, 2016, 09:40:18 PM
... It is convenient for those that only want BTC, that's for sure, but it's only more profitable when your miner is noticeably faster than the competition. And at the moment it's not.

I agree it is more convenient for those that only want BTC. We are working hard to make our miners faster, better and easier to use - and by comments from this thread, we are doing great job so far! Smiley

Don't get me wrong, I understand some miners find the experience of trading and uncertainty highly enjoyable. But most people don't. They want regular earnings with less hassle. And this is where NiceHash comes into play.
Yeah, its hassle free and I like bitcoins in exchange for mining equihash on gtx 1070.

But come on, where is the Linux version of 1.0.4a, I still only get 300sols while windows people get more. Thats unbearable to think about.
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 09:27:01 PM
I wonder if it would be possible to modify the wallet, to have a list of witnesses, which are all owned by me.

Then sending transactions from my wallet to my other wallet.

The fees would end up with my witnesses? They would see it first, the would sign it.

Then my 12 witnesses would be modified to actually ask/pass on the transaction to the other real witnesses for confirmations. Eventually the transactions would be in the Main Chain, but the real witnesses would have no chance to collect the fee?

Would this work tonych?

650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 09:19:12 PM

Great calculations.

I do not expect the system to be a general purpose data storage though, storing 1MB is already too much for what people are storing in various blockchains already - which is certificates, and hashes of public keys or other such small things which are in the 4kb range.

If you are really really really rich then you can use it to store your mp3 files or your 4K movies in it.

So to me, this says, the design is solid, we dont want your 4k movies as transactions, but your 4kilobyte rsa keys are perfect, hell throw in a 128kilobyte message for fun.

System scales well.
Ok, so "data storage" is rather "just a little text storage".  This is not to criticize but to make things clear. "Data storage" and "scalable" sounds like god knows what.
Any takers on implementing byteball-bittorrent, that is popular these days with webtorrent and gittorrent, so now we need, bytetorrent, or torrentball?

Torrentball is a fancy name.
651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Hello tonych

Im running a witness and it crashes with this

events.js:160
     throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
     ^Error: write EPIPE
   at exports._errnoException (util.js:1022:11)
   at WriteWrap.afterWrite [as oncomplete] (net.js:804:14)


And how come it says this "distance above threshold, will witness" in the logs, but I havent told anyone about the witness ID/public-key, how come it is trying to witness?

Does it make any sense to run a byteball-relay as well as a witness, the logs seem to be the same, is the witness also doing relay?

Is running a witness the only way to collect fees from transactions? Is there a guide on setting one up that you used?
There is no guide, but I can help anyway, despite being possible competitors,

I cloned this https://github.com/byteball/byteball-witness

then edit the conf.js and run node start.js (or maybe I ran npm install before that)

So simple. Much wow. Also you could setup a reverse proxy and point its wss://you.com/bb to your desired port, open firewalls, and receive incoming connections, as specified on byteball/byteballcore or byteball-relay github.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 08:21:15 PM
Hello tonych

Im running a witness and it crashes with this

events.js:160
     throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
     ^Error: write EPIPE
   at exports._errnoException (util.js:1022:11)
   at WriteWrap.afterWrite [as oncomplete] (net.js:804:14)


And how come it says this "distance above threshold, will witness" in the logs, but I havent told anyone about the witness ID/public-key, how come it is trying to witness?

Does it make any sense to run a byteball-relay as well as a witness, the logs seem to be the same, is the witness also doing relay?
653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 27, 2016, 08:04:14 PM
This discussion led me to do some calculation - with what market cap of the Byteball system transactions become expensive. I take for simplification that the standard transaction is 500 bytes in size. We get the following:



Therefore we can start to worry about the cost of a single transaction only when the market cap approaches $10 trillion. Obviously other use cases of the system become too expensive much sooner.

Let's see when uploading 1 MB file becomes expensive:



As we can see with only $10 billion market cap (less than the current market cap of bitcoin) storing 1 MB file in the Byteball system becomes expensive ($10). It shows that the design of the system (1 quadrillion cap of internal currency) precludes any widespread use case regarding data storing. Claiming that the system is scalable with regard to data storage is therefore unsubstantiated.

Please check if I did these calculations correctly as this looks like a rather serious issue.

Great calculations.

I do not expect the system to be a general purpose data storage though, storing 1MB is already too much for what people are storing in various blockchains already - which is certificates, and hashes of public keys or other such small things which are in the 4kb range.

If you are really really really rich then you can use it to store your mp3 files or your 4K movies in it.

So to me, this says, the design is solid, we dont want your 4k movies as transactions, but your 4kilobyte rsa keys are perfect, hell throw in a 128kilobyte message for fun.

System scales well.
654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 26, 2016, 10:19:45 PM
hahahaha so many price speculations, no one can set price now,
if project is stable and solid + many great features then price will be high if not... so 1 sat soon

Will be much better than 1 sat in any circumstance. 1 sat are only for these shitcoins having nothing new. Any coins have something new, like zcash, zcoin, dash, etc etc all well above it.

If you have not noticed we are already much lower than 1 sat.
1 byte is useless, even to send it you need at least 500 bytes, so the minimum viable unit is actually kilobyte.
655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 26, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
hahahaha so many price speculations, no one can set price now,
if project is stable and solid + many great features then price will be high if not... so 1 sat soon

Will be much better than 1 sat in any circumstance. 1 sat are only for these shitcoins having nothing new. Any coins have something new, like zcash, zcoin, dash, etc etc all well above it.
The success will depend on the amount of actual users, and users will come if we offer more than buy/sell bytes for bitcoin.

Now is time for someone to setup a webshop selling nice (digital) things and accepting bytes as payment. Selling nice things such as computing power or SSH access to a VPS for a few hours.

And someone must make a nameball - the lightweight client should already be more secure and lighter than anything which namecoin has now. Then sell domain-names/key-value pairs. Anyone willing to help me in making nameball?
656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: NiceHash EQM Zcash NVIDIA optimized miner [Maxwell/Pascal] + CPU mining v1.0.4a on: December 26, 2016, 07:55:28 PM
Come on nicehash people, give us Linux folks some love.

I only get 299sol/s on gtx 1070 asus strix (no overclock no nothing, brand new) with 3b version.
657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 26, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
Does byteball use quantum safe cryptos like Iota token does?

What is the minimum transaction and hence minimal fee in bytes possible? Someone here mentioned 500bytes, so 1GB would let you do 2million transactions? Not suitable for machinetomachine communication?
658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 25, 2016, 10:03:20 PM
Could someone please explain what are Blackbytes?

Just received some to my wallet.

What are the differences with bytes?

Thanks!

i think they are invisible not via explorer trackable assets
by idea it seems byteballs is the white market currency
and hmmmm i have no idea what blackbytes usecase could be  Roll Eyes

So what the use of them? Whey they were created?  Huh
To buy hookers and coca cola with.
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Byteballs ::: Buying & Selling & Trading on: December 25, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
WTB 20GB for 1BTC
660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: December 22, 2016, 11:01:22 AM
has someone compiled the wallets from src and checked if the apps ( android / win / linux ) from the release matches?
Yes, I did it for Linux, it matches close enough, its not a reproducible build like Bitcoin or Tor yet.

Joining here, to say amazing great work to tonych, looking forward to build many platforms with this technology.
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