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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 15, 2017, 07:42:39 PM
What is to stop Byteballs from having the scaling issues that IOTA is having?
IOTA and BYTEBALL these two coins, which technically more advanced?
Which one is in production, in use since 25h December 2016, traded on several exchanges both decentralized and normal exchanges? Byteball.

Iota is vaporware, big promises and very little delivery. Its not even a dag-coin as it doesnt have consensus algorithm, right now the consensus is made by developers deciding everyones balance in their own notebooks and posting "milestone" db releases.

For IoT - Iota doesnt make sense at all as it uses Proof-of-Work, IoT-devices are optimized to _not_ do any work, they must save energy. Iotas solution/suggestion/big-promise is to design a "jinn" hardware another micro-chip to place on your iot sensor to talk Iota. Lulz, there goes the "no fees" claim, the fees are just hidden in extra costs and integrations - and energy usage.

For someone who actually works with IoT, the whole iota thing is laughable. I chuckle every time I write about it.

Byteball is very suitable for IoT, most chips (look a few pages back I mentioned many and explained more in this, or look through my post history) which today can do TLS (which is https) encryption can also already do Byteball.

Not to mention, that your and others internet-of-things can transact with each others based on smart contracts - you can make trading rules when to sell sensor data and for how much, such logic, in the device, with its own addresses, not just "lets spew it transactions and let a centralized exchange decide who buys and who sells". Lol, I cant stop chuckling about iota, and their poor dev coming in here to shill and fud.
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 13, 2017, 01:11:20 PM
Is this website related to byteball? http://bitviser.info/

3rd party and not official

Yeah, i make this quickly to help people get on with give away. Its not official.



Very sleek site, nice!
243  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 10:34:30 PM
My hubs updated to 1.8.3  Wink

byteball.me/bb
blackbytes.me/bb
byteball.zuqka.info/bb

On byteball.me/bb and blackbytes.me/bb the default witness JED... is replaced with 7ULGTPFB72TOYA67YNGMX2Y445FSTL7O

That witness is run by portabella known in the slack and for helping discover first XSSes in Byteball.

See the link for details: https://byteroll.com/witness

Ive also changed my wallets witness from MEJ... from byteball.fr to portabella.

As I predicted, 100 pages back, the witness-forming and community consensus required around those would lead to drama.

portabella has my trust for now, but any even small nasty political acts at all will lead to replacement.
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 10, 2017, 07:58:38 PM
where is the bot?
..
You will find him there after the first contact. First contact see:
https://byteball.org/




what contact, what should i do to see the bot?
just click to chat

it's what i did but there is no bot, i posted a screenshot
Just click the Chat tab, and then "Accept invite from other device", and paste in the link you find on byteball.org of the transition bot, it is A2WMb6JEIrMhxVk+I0gIIW1vmM3ToKoLkNF8TqUV5UvX@byteball.org/bb#0000 that.

i'm stuck here Move your bytes to the linked address in order to maximize the amount of blackbytes you receive
Click on your own bytes address and "Send all" of your bytes to that address. Your wallet has many addresses, but the bot only knows of a few or 1.

You must move your bytes to the address the bot knows, then you receive the blackbytes.
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 10, 2017, 07:42:20 PM
where is the bot?
..
You will find him there after the first contact. First contact see:
https://byteball.org/




what contact, what should i do to see the bot?
just click to chat

it's what i did but there is no bot, i posted a screenshot
Just click the Chat tab, and then "Accept invite from other device", and paste in the link you find on byteball.org of the transition bot, it is A2WMb6JEIrMhxVk+I0gIIW1vmM3ToKoLkNF8TqUV5UvX@byteball.org/bb#0000 that.
246  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 09, 2017, 12:32:01 PM
CfB is just jelaous and tries to find weakness in Byteball. When he fails he goes to attack my online persona. Very weak but funny.
 
Is that really all you got?

Not surprising from someone who thought proof of work on an iot chip would ever mske sense. iota worthless scam coin.
247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 09, 2017, 06:44:03 AM
Does IOTA or Byteball share any of their codebase from each other?
Not even a single line.

Iota is basically a scam, or vaporware, very big promises and little deliveries. See latest events where a few people who had bought iotatokens lost them because they failed to "claim" their tokens again.

Byteball is in livenet/production while iota is still developer-preview/beta only, hence consensus is decided by milestone-databases.
248  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 08, 2017, 08:51:40 PM
Byteball is decentralized

Right now supermajority of the witnesses is controlled by a single person, so it's not decentralized. Also no proof of Byteball belonging to DAG-coins family was presented, bold claims of a BTT member with "Activity: 140" can't be accept as proofs. The resume is so obvious I don't even need to post it.
lol nice try at derailing again.

Right now iota is not on any exchanges, since you are the consensus algorithm, do you have your notebook and pen ready to scribble which people you are scamming? You keep track of their balances and post it with the next "milestone". How many btc have you stolen due to people not showing up to "claim" the iotatokens they bought from you and thought they owned?

249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 08, 2017, 07:47:12 PM
You can help witness diversity by setting you home hub to byteball.fr/bb and allow "auto uptade witness from hub". This will add our witness to you wallet witness list.
Avoid feeding the troll, look back in the history of this thead, its nothing but FUD lies from CfB the iota scam coin creator. He isnt actually interested in Byteball at all.
250  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 08, 2017, 07:41:09 PM

Byteball is centralized in 12 servers so it's extremely hard to take it seriously as more than an interesting experiment to see how it's version of DAG works out.
Indeed, its major weakness, yet interesting concept. It is not fully centralized to 12 witnesses, as any full node can collect headers-fees, it is only witnesses who collect payload fees. Byteball is decentralized, but not trust-less. It is also possible to run a witness as tor hidden service or even behind i2p.
251  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 08, 2017, 07:34:27 PM
Don't understand all the mud slinging crap between SatoNatomato and Cfb.

I caught and exposed SatoNatomato on outright lies, so the root of his hatred is easily understandable.
Laughable, you are only butthurt because I asked uncomfortable questions in your IOTA-thread, then you banned me and started following me around to try to stop me from spreading truth what IOTA actually is, from the perspective of someone who actually works with IoT.

Also, your trolling and Byteball FUD is terrible and has been "exposed" by others as well.
252  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 07, 2017, 10:27:03 PM
^
Still unsure if you picked the right library?
Boss already nagging?
Fear of losing your internship?
Let me see, it is May, the fifth month, of 2017. Can a person trade iotatokens on exchanges and is the consensus of Iota decided by its consensus-algorithm and not "milestone" databases posted by its developers?

Byteball is on bittrex, changelly, bitsquare to name a few.

I am truly sorry you have invested too much into Iotatoken to not be willing to see/comprehend the inherent incompatibility and oyxmoron of "proof-of-work" designed for devices, devices which are optimized to do as little work as possible.

Iota is as spectacular and big as its promises and failure to deliver anything of value.


I translate your answer to:
yes
yes
yes
I translate your messages to, "butthurt", and enviousness, do you even have a job?
253  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 07, 2017, 10:25:58 PM
is the consensus of Iota decided by its consensus-algorithm and not "milestone" databases posted by its developers?

Milestones are used as a countermeasure against 34% attack while hashpower backing IOTA is not large enough. Also, last time I checked Byteball description that coin wasn't decentralized, so it's unclear why Byteball is mentioned in this thread at all.
LOL.

Iota as designed will never be secure, no matter how much hashpower you throw at it, will never be done with milestones and "claim" your tokens to actually own them, again.

Besides, proof-of-work, hashpower, on internet-of-things devices. Right. I mean, really, congratulations CfB you are master scammer who fooled many many naive people who know nothing of IoT.
254  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 07, 2017, 02:14:12 PM
^
Still unsure if you picked the right library?
Boss already nagging?
Fear of losing your internship?
Let me see, it is May, the fifth month, of 2017. Can a person trade iotatokens on exchanges and is the consensus of Iota decided by its consensus-algorithm and not "milestone" databases posted by its developers?

Byteball is on bittrex, changelly, bitsquare to name a few.

I am truly sorry you have invested too much into Iotatoken to not be willing to see/comprehend the inherent incompatibility and oyxmoron of "proof-of-work" designed for devices, devices which are optimized to do as little work as possible.

Iota is as spectacular and big as its promises and failure to deliver anything of value.
255  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 05, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
The best image of Byteball is this, an actual DAG.

Ethereum blockchain looks as a DAG too. Does this mean that Ethereum is actually the first DAG coin?
No, as described in this threads paper, ethereum has nothing to do with a DAGcoin, while Byteball is the First functional DAG coin.

Your argumentation by pictures, brings you to wrong conclusions.

I see in the IOTA thread your scam has born fruit to you, people are saying the "iota tokens" they bought from you are not actually "valid" anymore because they didnt "claim" them.

You do not have the first DAG coin, but you are running one of many scam coins.
256  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 04, 2017, 09:53:32 PM
Have you looked at https://byteball.org what is your opinion on that?

Yes, would be interesting to get an opinion because...

...I'm still not convinced that Byteball is a pure DAG coin, to prove my position I would need to generate a lot of transactions on Byteball network to show that in certain conditions (related to DAG topology) TPS growth is negatively impacted by necessity to pick the main chain. If you compared Ethereum (which calls itself blockchain) and Byteball you would see that they don't differ much:

You keep spamming that image.

The best image of Byteball is this, an actual DAG.


Byteball is the first DAG-coin, the first! The first IoT coin, and the first on exchanges and actual use in livenet.
257  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 03, 2017, 09:01:46 PM
http://forum.iota.org/t/discussion-removing-peer-discovery/939/2

IOTA requires that you manually assign peers because running on it's own it implodes from the bandwidth, because of course it does. It removed Bitcoin's throttling mechanism and now they want to figure out how to prevent these out-of-control blocks in this "blockless" blockchain. Sometimes the real world really is stranger than fiction.

I wasn't sure if you are troll or not, but then I looked at your nickname and decided to explain an obvious thing:

IOTA is for Internet-of-Things. Real Internet-of-Things which looks as described here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking... Um, probably too complex for you, I'll try ELI3 instead of ELI5...

IOTA is for Internet-of-Things. Real Internet-of-Things where a device broadcasts packets to the neighbors in vicinity only. We deployed IOTA to classical Internet with routers and other nasty things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_backbone... Arghh, still too complex...

Imagine that we want to check how IOTA would work on Internet-of-Things. We deployed IOTA to classical Internet. Luckily ISPs already block global multicasting, but if we enable automatic peer-discovery then anyone can interfere with our battle-testing. This is why we use manual tethering. In the past we tested automatic peer discovery and it worked bad (which didn't surprise me at all).

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IOTA requires that you manually assign peers because running on it's own it implodes from the bandwidth, because of course it does.
These words reminded me of http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/Get_Schwifty, you are like that dude who interpreted inapprehensible events to his own benefit and became the main priest of the new cult. You are very very wrong, my friend. I hope in few years you'll get it...
Sounds like bullshit, you didnt even know what IoT is. You thought a raspbery pi was an IoT device.  Cheesy
258  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: DagCoin: a cryptocurrency without blocks on: May 03, 2017, 08:59:47 PM
I wish they'd stop referring to DAG as "decentralized", especially when years later there is no cryptocurrency in sight that relies on DAG that is also significantly decentralized, for exactly the reasons I explained... More than a year and a half ago.

I'd like to point out that in DagCoin, it is still only miners that vote. If you're a user that applies work on a transaction and broadcasts it, then you're a miner.
Work is a waste from the perspective of the miners. There is no incentive, or even a method to incentivize miners to do work on transactions in DagCoin. Competition would atrophy hashpower on the network in order to drive up transaction speeds, which is the product that the miner provides, users enjoy, and the only method of remuneration. Mining is just a cost that the miner wants to minimize.
This is just like if we removed the block size limit from Bitcoin and removed the subsidy.

That problem, the lack of funding for difficulty increases in order to slow down transaction speeds, isn't referenced in the white paper unless I missed it. So ultimately to get back to answering your original question "Why 1 sec, not 1 min?" the answer is I don't see any decentralized throttling mechanism that could actually work in DagCoin.

http://forum.iota.org/t/discussion-removing-peer-discovery/939/2

IOTA requires that you manually assign peers because running on it's own it implodes from the bandwidth, because of course it does. It removed Bitcoin's throttling mechanism and now they want to figure out how to prevent these out-of-control blocks in this "blockless" blockchain. Sometimes the real world really is stranger than fiction.
Have you looked at https://byteball.org what is your opinion on that?

It chose to be decentralized but not trust-less, and let the witnesses take the fees.

By the way, IOTA as claimed is for "Internet of Things", and they use Proof-of-Work.

Let me remind you, as someone who actually works on micro controllers at a big enterprise on IoT producst:

Most IoT chips are supposed to be run on batteries
, on 3.3V down to 6mAh. Yes, that is right, the latest BLE chips actually use a full 6mAh when radio is on full power and CPU on hard work mode.

Can you imagine how much "Proof-of-Work" such a device can accomplish? Yes, NONE, nada, zilch. It struggles to maintain an TLS connection. DTLS is what people use as https is too heavy. And why? Because you cant ask your customers go around replacing your batteries every year.

And these guys come in here with their IOTAcoin and claim, the stupid devices will somehow magically perform a Proof-of-Working / wasting electricity, in order to transact?! What the fuck.

So in short, iotacoin is not for IoT. Proof-of-Work does not mix with devices which try to do no work!

The only good coin for IoT is Byteball
- the cost of sending a transaction/receiving/subscribing to an address - is similar to cost of doing TLS.
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 30, 2017, 08:49:34 PM
This might be a question for Tony, but feel free to answer if you know.

If I wanted to create my own private anon currency on Byteball similar to GBB, for example, dts-coins and I wanted to ensure every current Byteball holder got some free dts-coins.

Could I code a smart contract that via my own genesis block on the Byteball DAG, automatically credited every existing Byteball holder with dts-coins?
You can do that simpler than you think, create a private asset - see the example script. Other people have already created their own both private and public assets. Then to distribute it, just send it to every address which you have seen in the DAG database like what the explorer.byteball.org sees. No need for smart contracts. But you could run a transition bot if you wanted to more fairly distribute your asset according to interest.
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: April 30, 2017, 03:17:07 PM
similar to iota?  free blackbytes no worky

Not similar, Iota is shit and vaporware, and this is actually working and on exchanges.

Aside from that, Iota tries to be a coin for IoT while using Proof-of-Work, that is an oxymoron.
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