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6401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MYBITCOIN.COM DELETING ACCOUNTS? on: July 03, 2011, 06:40:47 PM
My account works, though I had no BTC there.
6402  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin song - The Ballad of the Bitcoin on: July 03, 2011, 06:07:29 AM
I noticed a number of factual errors. For example, transactions are not guaranteed to be free, and MagicalTux didn't start MtGox.
6403  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THIS is Why Bitcoin Has and Will Gain Support and Popularity on: July 03, 2011, 04:21:17 AM
You missed "a generation ago". He's talking about university (mostly) computer systems running Unix, with users connected from terminals.
6404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THIS is Why Bitcoin Has and Will Gain Support and Popularity on: July 02, 2011, 06:33:46 AM
Quote from: Satoshi
The root problem with conventional currency is all the trust that's required to make it work. The central bank must be trusted not to debase the currency, but the history of fiat currencies is full of breaches of that trust. Banks must be trusted to hold our money and transfer it electronically, but they lend it out in waves of credit bubbles with barely a fraction in reserve. We have to trust them with our privacy, trust them not to let identity thieves drain our accounts. Their massive overhead costs make micropayments impossible.

A generation ago, multi-user time-sharing computer systems had a similar problem. Before strong encryption, users had to rely on password protection to secure their files, placing trust in the system administrator to keep their information private. Privacy could always be overridden by the admin based on his judgment call weighing the principle of privacy against other concerns, or at the behest of his superiors. Then strong encryption became available to the masses, and trust was no longer required. Data could be secured in a way that was physically impossible for others to access, no matter for what reason, no matter how good the excuse, no matter what.

It's time we had the same thing for money. With e-currency based on cryptographic proof, without the need to trust a third party middleman, money can be secure and transactions effortless.

One of the fundamental building blocks for such a system is digital signatures. A digital coin contains the public key of its owner. To transfer it, the owner signs the coin together with the public key of the next owner. Anyone can check the signatures to verify the chain of ownership. It works well to secure ownership, but leaves one big problem unsolved: double-spending. Any owner could try to re-spend an already spent coin by signing it again to another owner. The usual solution is for a trusted company with a central database to check for double-spending, but that just gets back to the trust model. In its central position, the company can override the users, and the fees needed to support the company make micropayments impractical.

Bitcoin's solution is to use a peer-to-peer network to check for double-spending. In a nutshell, the network works like a distributed timestamp server, stamping the first transaction to spend a coin. It takes advantage of the nature of information being easy to spread but hard to stifle. For details on how it works, see the design paper at http://www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The result is a distributed system with no single point of failure. Users hold the crypto keys to their own money and transact directly with each other, with the help of the P2P network to check for double-spending.
6405  Other / Off-topic / Re: What music do you listen to while programming? on: July 02, 2011, 06:05:27 AM
Classical or psytrance, usually.
6406  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Client stuck at ~130k blocks not downloading anymore blocks on: July 02, 2011, 05:55:09 AM
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Fallback_nodes
6407  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Announce] getblockchain.com on: July 02, 2011, 04:40:26 AM
Just curious... a block chain alone could never really be "tampered" with right? I mean if it was anything other than the official block chain, the client wouldn't recognize anything... right?

No, there's a lot an attacker could do. They could give you a gigantic chain that isn't really valid, and then feed you fake transactions, for example.
6408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Announce] getblockchain.com on: July 02, 2011, 03:38:54 AM
People downloading this should be warned that Bitcoin does not verify blocks gotten in this way.
6409  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: No Confirmations (Sent ahead of confirmed transfer to me) on: July 02, 2011, 03:35:50 AM
The transaction was probably delayed because it has low priority. Search for it here:
http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
6410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: No confirmations to Mt. Gox on: July 02, 2011, 03:34:13 AM
Run Bitcoin with the -debug switch, double-click the transaction, and post the transaction dump here.
6411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is date/time determined? on: July 02, 2011, 03:31:36 AM
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_timestamp
6412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Need mirror for blockexplorer.com on: July 02, 2011, 03:14:26 AM
Thanks to rasengan and coderrr of MtGox Live for hosting the mirror. It is available directly at http://109.123.116.245 . Tell me if you see any bugs unique to the mirror.
6413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 02, 2011, 01:29:40 AM
So you are essencially admitting that such an attack would render the system useless, as long as the attack is sustained.

Yes, but only for as long as the attack is sustained. It would be a DoS attack, not the End Of Bitcoin.
6414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 01, 2011, 11:42:18 PM
To create 1000 old blocks, you need to do an average of 5923676160960014000 hashes at the current difficulty. Plus, to actually replace them you need to constantly fight against the existing network. To negate all legitimate blocks takes a hash speed equal to the current network hash speed (~12 Thash/s at the moment).

So you need 12 Thash/s plus about 6 billion billion hashes to rewrite 1000 blocks. If you want to replace the blocks within a week, you need a total of ~22 Thash/s.

Let's say a 6870 does 300 Mhash/s (I don't how true this is). You need ~41285 6870s to get 50% of the network plus ~32646 more to create 1000 blocks at current difficulty within a week. That's at the very least $10 million.

And once the attacker gets sick of wasting so much money, everything can be fixed without much loss by blacklisting their chain.
6415  Economy / Goods / Re: new real tangible physical bitcoin coin on: July 01, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Cool coin! I'll probably buy one.

It's a very neat idea but please, pretty please, this is supposed to be a world-wide usable coin, not just in the US. This means we definitely can't use the Thai baht symbol.

I mean, seriously: do you imagine a bitcoin-coin with a "$" symbol on it? Do you imagine reading/writing "$4.5" meaning 4.5 bitcoins? Wouldn't that be confusing? Then you know why the ฿ sign doesn't work either.

We're seeking for a fair economy system, and we can't even start being fair choosing the very symbol of the currency. That's depressing.

The symbols are different. The Bitcoin symbol has two strokes, and they don't go through the middle of the B. No one who actually uses the Thai Baht symbol would be confused. Compare:

฿
6416  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 01, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
Reversing 1000 future blocks takes a week with 52%.

This is certainly wrong, and your other numbers are probably wrong, too. If you control 52% of the network, you must use one of your blocks to negate a legitimate block 48% of the time. So 48% of the network is producing legitimate blocks, 48% of the network is negating those blocks, and only 4% is left producing new blocks. The network would only produce 5.76 blocks per day.
6417  Other / Off-topic / Re: Very annoying: unnecessary abbreviations on: July 01, 2011, 07:40:58 PM
And the other two?

Well, #1 would be saying nonsensical things like "could of" or "all of the sudden".

It's also extremely annoying when people correct me when I use "he" as a gender-neutral pronoun. This is a perfectly valid usage of the word, and it looks much better than "he/she" or "they".
6418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 01, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
It can be done but it require 1)a backup of the old blockchain 2)enough miners that know what to do

Bitcoin never deletes blocks, so everyone will still have copies. The pools can be updated in no time, and they represent almost all of the network's hashing power.
6419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 01, 2011, 09:48:08 AM
Very doable if you can afford to spend 10/15 millions of $

Any rich guy could happily do it without problems...

Getting 50% would take a few million dollars, but rewriting many past blocks is much more expensive.

Even if any of this does happen, it can all be manually straightened out after control is regained.
6420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If an attacker gets more than 50 % of mining power on: July 01, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
It's possible. ArtForz once wiped out all of testnet by mining some high-difficulty blocks.
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