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6441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is there any cryptocurrency which can be mined with a laptop? on: November 26, 2017, 01:25:15 PM
You will just ruin and destroy your laptop. It is better and profitable to sacrifice some money to buy the techs for mining. If really want mining you should earn for it. It may not be easy but it will be worth it once you've assemble necessary parts. Dont risk you laptop. You can always participate in services tokens bounty if you really dont have money.
Like someone will always say, if you want to do it, just do it well. Although, sometimes, for learning purpose and to have an idea, picking some altcoins may not really be a bad idea but I totally agree with you that you will be overworking your system which probably may not be built for such a huge work like that.

It is better to do some research and set up once and for all if someone wants to really go into mining properly.
6442  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Cheap electricity for mining Bitcoin on: November 26, 2017, 08:23:47 AM
You can always do off grid electricity work like solar panels, or you can use public spaces maybe for bitcoin mining (lol)

Rent an apartment with free electricity, or get a hotel room and break even mining!
You're right about getting a solar panels but getting a hotel room is off the limit and it may leads to misconception or been jail. Don't you know how the cops chase miners in Venezuela?
In my opinion those who want to mine bitcoin for cheap electricity they should start mining in Asian countries like China, India where the cost of electricity is low than that of European and American countries. I my eyes there is no other options to have cheap electricity because if someone wants to mine bitcoin in England he would have to pay huge electricity bills for mining bitcoins.
Yes, for someone who really wants to take up mining, then this should be a very good consideration.
Either to find a way to relocate to some of the countries with extremely cheap electricity or just find another means of investment.

Mining is not a must as there are some other form of investment, so it totally depends on each individual and how they really want to go about it anyway, but you have to be sure of what you want to do before you even start.
6443  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Time management. on: November 25, 2017, 06:44:24 PM
Time is money how you you invest you will get same output,Make the list of priorities which give you more benefit as your investment of time and follow it with consistency. If your priority trade spend more and it and rest on campaigns and updates,if you want serve and want to get more knowledge then spend on campaigns and readings .
Time is really money which is why it is highly valuable. The day that I totally understood that time waits for no one, was the day I decided to take control of my time and make the best use of it which made me to take time management seriously.

I plan my day, I stick to my plans and I make sure at the end, I can say with confidence that it was productive. If one ends up not managing it well, one would end up doing insensible things until we discover that it is all wasted which cannot even be recycled.
6444  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one is a better investment Bitcoin Or Ethereum, on: November 25, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Technologically speaking I would guess Ethereum would be a better investment due to the technology behind it but I would stick with Bitcoin for the time being because it is more often in the news and more people know about it.

Maybe in time that will change but I don't think that will happen any time soon.
Looking at some of the issues Ethereum has had and is still having with security; I would not be too comfortable with Ethereum as any of its competitors can easily come up with something crazy now and end up shifting it from the road.

It is a huge market, and as much as I really want to believe Ethereum to be a good project with has given birth to a lot of tokens, anything can happen.

For bitcoin though, this is one coin that has been able to gain support over the years being the legacy, and it is a total ball game with Ethereum so, I would not want to compare much, but based on increase possibilities in value, Bitcoin obviously would surpass.
6445  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Volatility on: November 25, 2017, 04:45:51 PM
Volatility is a matter of time. Just keep your eyes open and don't forget that only in May'17 BTC was around $1300)))
Moments like this when one sees a little balance like this for a while most especially with bitcoin always come with another huge resistance break and then we see another bull run testing a new ATH. Volatility is one of the major characteristics of cryptocurrencies and it cannot be over. With that, Trading has been very boring and not too crazy for a while now until we start seeing another change in trend.
6446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: The best plataform to trade altcoins and why on: November 25, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Why do you even have to use alt coins. You will find many traders here who would like to trade in btc but also ALTs if they need it. Best way is to just convert your ALTs into Bitcoin with the help of bittrex for easy trading. Also you will find trusted member here to trade with rather than just trading with someone you don't know anything about.
Trading altcoins does not necessarily mean doing a direct P2P trading. If the OP is looking for a platform he can do pro trading, either day, short or long, then he cannot be doing that here on the forum and he will definitely need a good exchange to achieve his aim.

In that case, bittrex should be his best bet for a start but he should be ready to get his account verified with proper documents or else, he will get locked out.
6447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: November 24, 2017, 03:30:19 PM
Many gamblers know that they can't win money from gambling but they keep on gamble again and again but not with a small amount. Some people even borrow money from others to gamble. That means they never learn from their past gambling mistakes.

Are you doing this kind of gambling mistake?
In winning people tend to continue playing on hoping to gain more and more but will end up on the losing side same with losing, they tend to play on hoping to get back what they have lost but in the end will lose more. This is a common mistake for gamblers that they tend to continue repeating. One must learn how to stop whether you are on the winning side or the other.
That is one huge mistake a whole lot of people always make and it makes me wonder if they usually feel the owner of the online casinos are father Christmas just willing to dash money out to everyone. They are also there to make profit and a huge one for that matter. So, one thing with gambling is if one person is winning, about 30 others are losing and the odds of you being a looser? You know the rest...
6448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambler destroyed on: November 24, 2017, 02:41:24 PM
Hello guys !
I'm new here. Sorry for my bad English.
In my opinion whatever is done by the hand of man can be broken / destroyed. I know, you believe this can't be possible because a lot of people can't make a perfect strategy. In the last 24 hours I wanted to break this myth and I think I SUCCESS!!! You do not believe me, but I will attach you some pictures to see that I have succeeded.
All is automated (dicebot).
This post is not created with the purpose of giving me great. I want you to know it's possible. I'm probably going to sell the strategy but at this moment I will test it for a week to convince me that it's perfect, and if it is not, I will perfect it. I'll keep you up-to-date within the time available. I will probably leave some tips here  Wink

Photos : https://m.imgur.com/a/PPjur

Really?  May I ask: What's your level of mathematics proficiency?  Did you derive a mathematical proof for your discovery or was it obtained by trial and error?  If you can provide a mathematical proof, I may be interested in securing a copy of your automation script.  However, I highly doubt that a proof exists.
Do not bother asking him to drop any mathematical proof because there is none. If mathematics can help people win in gambling, Mathematics would have been the hottest profession right now, and I am sure even casinos will have to ban Mathematicians from entering the casinos and start requesting for certificates before entering any. He can just keep his strategy to himself, as strategies did not just start popping up yesterday.
6449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling ends on: November 24, 2017, 12:45:13 PM
I don't  believe that gambling will end ,even in the bible gambling do exist and untill now so it will never happen that gambling will gone. People has the attitude of being greedy and people easily  get attracted to gambling because they thought that they can easily get money from gambling.

it's impossible to happen, the biggest management of bitcoin comes from gambling, maybe tens or even hundreds of bitcoins are being gambled on gambling sites in one day, everyone believes that gambling can lead them to wealth, and gambling is a shortcut for someone gain profit and wealth,
You may be right in some manner but don’t you think you are just making everything cover in gambling? I must say gambling can be better but you can’t say all the bitcoins are managed only through gambling. There are huge lists of miners who are mining and evaluating bitcoin day and night and here you are just throwing everything on gambling. You should learn better in this regard.
Unfortunately, most of the gamblers who do it for the profit they want to earn from gambling do not understand that gambling is not an investment and there are so many things they could have just put their money into if they were willing to just do some little research to learn to get a lot from it.

Just like you have mentioned mining among other ones, these are ways you can double your money and at least know you are covered if you do it well. Gambling is just a plain luck kind of game and nothing else.
6450  Economy / Economics / Re: will next decade be the bitcoin era ?? on: November 24, 2017, 11:03:54 AM
Yes, you might be right. Today so many people do believe into the further growth of Bitcoin that they even actively take part in binary options. When recently American swap exchange LedgerX said it would launch options where the cost of BTC will be $ 10,000, many people were ready to deal with it. Bitcoin is the crypto of new era.
Bitcoin is really here to stay and there is no doubt about it. With so much development going on and the way people are ready to accept the usage of bitcoin, then one can gladly state that we are just starting and we are not even close to where we are going yet. A lot of things are changing, a lot of enthusiasm is growing among new investors and I cannot just wait to see how it all plays out.

Yes I believe that bitcoin will be giving many opportunity in the upcoming years. Nowadays there are plenty of people earning bigger from bitcoin so I believe years from now bitcoin still going stronger and growing fast. We just need to continue supporting and doing bitcoin in our daily lives because it really gives better and brighter future for us.
In few years to come, we are going to consider most of us here today as elites. The thing is that it is a step and it will keep advancing as we keep seeing new set of investors coming in. As long as bitcoin keeps staying relevant and we start seeing a huge real life usage for it than just an asset or investment, then bitcoin will really make some huge growth in the next decade.
6451  Economy / Economics / Re: What is a good amount of BTC to Buy? on: November 24, 2017, 07:11:13 AM
If they know what they are doing and if they are aware of the risk of investing in bitcoin by buying it then there is nothing to worry about. Even though investing in bitcoin is risky it is still a great choice as an investment because if you will just hold it for a long time then you will surely make money.
There is risk in every investment and everyone should be ready for that risk. As long as people can understand this, they can decide to do what is pleasing to them.

After all, someone decided to sell all he has recently to buy bitcoin and saw it like buying into his future believing he will achieve hugely from it. He is using what he has to trade to live through each day and looking at what he sold, that is not going to be a small amount of money. So it depends on each individual and the level of risk they are willing to take.
6452  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin kill maximum alt coins? on: November 23, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
Bitcoin is still king of crypto and almost all of altcoin's price depend upon bitcoin's price so they will also fluctuate everytime when bitcoin moves a bit. Situation for altcoin get even worst when bitcoin will pump hard in very short time, people will jump back into bitcoin by selling their alts for bitcoin which will just make altcoin price to dump harder during bitcoin pump.

But not every alts get affected heavily during such pump, only few of alt might survive in future.
That is one crazy trend that we will keep seeing as time goes on which has even made me to start thinking of just abandoning alts at any slight chance I get now and concentrating more on just bitcoin to USDT trading since it seems to me to be more of a profitable way right now than having to worry so much about the value of some altcoins being affected by the bull run of bitcoin.

When we consider the core applications of cryptocurrencies then I doubt of most of the altcoins. If this is true then definitely bitcoin will kill maximum altcoins.
6453  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Mistakes in trading that lead to loss of money on: November 23, 2017, 12:54:31 PM
I loss my money in trading through letting my self and emotion ruins my plan,  i lost it because of panic in selling to it, because those coin is dumping already but at the other day,  it has been pumped again, so if i were you, try not to go with your emotion. Analyze well and look well the chart.
Once you know what you are doing, emotion should always be the last thing in your dictionary as a trader bro!
Certainly, it is not that easy and I remember I use to have some of these issues before I learned and I allowed my skills to take over my decisions than making use of my emotions.

Have a strategy before you start a trade, know when to enter, when to get out when things go wrong based on the losses you can be comfortable with and also know when to bail out when things get good without being too greedy.
6454  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: btc target on: November 23, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Well it will take a while before we can get to $10K end of the year. segwit2x is already cancelled, the price is dropping already and we may see bitcoin below $7K this coming few days. What drove the price to new ATH is the anticipation of segwit2x, but since is has postponed already, I don't think we can continue with the bull run. Correction is already taking place and it will need a lot of investors to buy bitcoin once again to push the price to $10K at the end of the year. So it seems that $10K is achievable next year 2018.
The price has been constant on $8000 - $8300 for a while now but we cannot say yet if it is going to break lower than support or we will just keep seeing those little differences before it breaks another ATH. Definitely, market is back to normal right now and the bull run does not seem to be something to expect a lot that much, but one thing I will never do is to underestimate the surprises bitcoin always bring.

I think Btc will be 10000$ at the end of this year! Grin
As long as nothing halts its growth, I am very optimistic about this and I am pretty sure end of this year or very early next year would be some remarkable period for Bitcoin and $10,000 is just little, compared to what we will be experiencing in upcoming years.
6455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin pricing on: November 22, 2017, 05:51:58 PM
Why the price of bitcoin is changing quite fast....Why so?

To cope up with the coming fork that could lead the price to disastrous dumps and sudden drops because all this will make a lot of confusion occur in the markets with investors and miners to be seen as referees to decide their execution over the majority issues that are currently going on. I still believe that the current Bitcoin will dominate all these "alts" that are trying to take its place.
Bitcoin will surely dominate. The fact that it has lived through ages of threat, complications, attacks, and has still been able to survive has made people and users to trust more in leaving their funds in bitcoin than any altcoin which is a good thing. The support will keep growing as well as the volume and only alts with some good relevance or real life usage will be able to thrive at the long run.
6456  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this Forum full of 'normal people' who over the years became filthy rich? on: November 22, 2017, 03:54:01 PM
Hi there

I was thinking
Bitcoin must have created a biiig amount of new millionairs, doesn't it?
I mean people who got interested in bitcoins early, liberals, doomsday government critics, criminals and drug users who used silk road, normal poor people like me. There must be a vast amount of cracy stories of people finding themselves filthy rich.
Did you get rich? Would be very interested in stories.

Mine:
I invested about 10k in bitcoin at about 600 usd, that was about 4 years ago. Was all my money at that time, i saved it in the 6 years before that. Read some book about where to safely invest that did not mention bitcoin at all, then i saw video about bitcoin and put money there.
Then it went lower for more than a year, down to 200usd. When it finally went over 600 again, i sold 1/3rd, argh Smiley
So it's about 8x to 80k now. Great stuff, but 80k is not exactly big money. (But it's big compared to my income, it's about 8 years of my salary actually)
Stupidly i did not put my money i saved in these years into bitcoin.. i just did put it again into Bitcoin recently - i decided to go all in again. The bet is that bitcoin goes to 7k or above in next 5 years. (If it goes below 3500 i start to lose my not-yet-realised wins, if it goes to 7k i will have 200k, if it goes to 15k i will have 400k; - 200k and 400k (euros) means different amounts of financial freedom for me: of not 'having' to work to just survive, but to have income through just having money. (6% interest of 200k is 12k euros per year. I can live off that)
Nice! I guess you already have up to 200k right now. You could have been filthy rich but it was only delayed which apparently you are now. It is even very good you did not go all out when you recovered your funds back and then you were patient enough during the first huge dip back then as so many people ended up selling for losses.

Good to hear your story and I wish I have a better story except that I have been a spender at some point and savings aren’t as much as that.
6457  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Amazon accepting Bitcoin - What can go wrong? on: November 22, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
I think a high percentage of amazon customers opt for the free shipping option which can take 2+ weeks. Waiting for bitcoin to confirm, on top of a 2 week shipping time may not be that much of an inconvenience.

The "scaling problem" could be a good problem to have. One way of viewing it is: "bitcoin can't be used to buy a cup of coffee and isn't ready for a prime time, mainstream, role". The flipside of that might say that if bitcoin's network lacks the transactional volume to cover all transactions, retailers might expand their platform to include support for other crypto to fill the vacuum. One perspective is likely over-optimistic while the other is the opposite. The likely outcome could be somewhere inbetween the two.

Bitpay green lights transactions on the 1st confirmation which isn't too bad.

Amazon accepting bitcoin would be similar to an official endorsement. If the public sees amazon endorsing bitcoin while banker CEO's condemn bitcoin it will create a divide, a conflict of mainstream opinion as opposed to the typical unified front the media is often able to maintain. That could encourage the public to research and learn about crypto more rather than believe the mainstream media angle of it being a bubble, which could be a good thing even if transactions aren't instantaneous.

Let's say we skip wait-times altogether. Say nobody gives a shit (a lot of people do, though). What about the fees? The astronomical fees from say, 200k utxo in mempool? I think it could hurt bitcoin more than it would help which gets me ranting about Core's incompetence.
Llo, the fees would really be the major issue at the end and people will end up just sticking to their normal traditional system than having to make use of the digital currency. Something really needs to be done and done fast and there is no way we can run from it because at one point or the other, we will still have to experience this.

This would really hurt just like you have said and will make people to start pulling to some other alts that would give them a better chance of the real life usage.
6458  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Supermarket Accept Bitcoin on: November 22, 2017, 01:45:15 PM
I don't see a single one yet. Crypto is stii unknown to most of the people here in my country. I only know online stores accept btc but I think supermarkets will follow sooner.
This is a general case almost everywhere except for some top countries or those countries like Japan who have legalized and regulating it presently. It has really generated a wide usage for the cryptocurrency by creating huge awareness. There is so much the governments have to gain here and instead of attacking it, it can be a win-win situation for both the governments and the users of bitcoin at the end.
6459  Economy / Economics / Re: Turkish Central Bank President: “Cryptocurrencies May Contribute to Financial on: November 22, 2017, 08:22:47 AM
I love how these central banks are making statements like oh ya we're looking into it when the fact remains that they have NO clue what they're talking about or what they're getting into. They were warned and had many times to research it, but everyone in positions of power ignored it because they thought there was no possible way that it could be where it is today.
That is really where the problem lies for most of them now. They underestimated the fact that bitcoin would get to the stage at which it is today and now stories are changing gradually.
I am sure most of these countries and CBNs would be regretting the fact that they ignored the digital currency rather than looking more into it and they even ignorantly dropped their support. Hopefully, they will start getting to realize what they have missed or what they will be missing.
6460  Economy / Economics / Re: Regulating Bitcoin on: November 22, 2017, 07:32:48 AM
There would be a trade-off between regulation and anonymity. We will probably lose the latter (which is the selling point of cryptocurrencies) since the very notion of regulation is tightening the freedom bitcoin offers. I personally can think of a way of regulating it without jeopardizing anonymity but would I would probably support it if they can come up with a good approach.
Can we even really say bitcoin is not anonymous when I can easily trace any transaction in a wallet except if a mixing service is used ?

Except for those who may want to do some evil act, anonymity should not really be a thing of issue. Moreover, before you make use of most exchanges these days without being limited to the amount you can withdraw at once, you will have to get verified.

So, these are some of the things we will keep seeing in most countries as times go on, most especially those who may like to convert to fiat. I can still stay anonymous if I decide to do a direct P2P transaction to whomever I am purchasing something from.
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