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661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT on: January 19, 2014, 02:09:56 AM
I am in. Frictionless, give me my coins. I have only 100 NXT. Can I have 1 million NEX ? Thanks

If only 1,000 people express interest, then you will get 1 million NEX.

I'm in too, and I'm going to make 100 sock puppets.

edit: if in a week NEX looks good I'll make 1,000,000 sock puppets - bitcointalk.org account mining. less electricity than bitcoin mining

LOL Grin
662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT on: January 19, 2014, 02:07:56 AM
So...when is the deadline to message in the thread lol? Tongue

I didn't see it in the OP.

Also should there be an "Activity" requirement or something?...guarantee there would be many alt-accounts joining in   Tongue
663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT on: January 19, 2014, 01:57:22 AM
Interested haha Smiley

664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 18, 2014, 11:50:20 PM
NOT GOOD

I am not sure, but this looks like our hacker:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10715382765594435905

That's BTER's address, I think.

yup that's correct actually lol. Nothing to see here.

My transaction I just sent was transferred there.
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=14435579736372331179
665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 18, 2014, 07:43:11 PM

Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.  Huh

Just an idea Tongue


Where i can have a look on nexern's client? Is it open source?

just giving an idea. Don't think nexern released anything yet. Tongue

Don't have time to re-read all 1000+ pages and what clients are being released by who and stuff...
666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 18, 2014, 07:21:23 PM
Solaris Windows Client
It can not be trusted. It's closed source.

So it can't be recommended. Definitely

What about the NRS client?

So there is a client but we cant use it?



for the most part ,we are all choosing  to just blindly trust Jean-Luc's "official" NRS releases.  though you can decompile and examine if you are savvy into that kind of thing.

However, actively promoting alternate clients must be handled VERY DELICATELY.  I would go so far as to say i dont really feel confortable promoting any alt clients on the nxtcrypto.org website unless the clients give a warning to the user about their source being closed, etc etc and that the users are actively choosing to trust the developer.  

This is aa very tough one.  Im definitely NOT going to make the call on my own.

Maybe should make it like how Bitcoin.org does it?

Where when you click on Getting Started with Bitcoin -> "Choose Your Wallet", it gives you a various assortment of "official" wallets like Bitcoin-qt, Multibit, and Armory while also linking to "Third Party" wallets and states "This wallet relies on a centralized service by default and requires a certain level of trust on a third party. This third party however does not control your wallet. Using backups and a strong password is always recommended when applicable." where you then click "OK, I UNDERSTAND".

Have it so the clients made by nexern, and some of the trusted posters become the "OFFICIAL" wallets, and the rest become "3rd party" or something like that.  Huh

Just an idea Tongue
667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 18, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
go go NXT!!! lol Tongue

Seen the price on coinmarketcap a few hours ago and was wondering what the sudden price surge was for Smiley
668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 17, 2014, 10:20:50 PM
I think NXT market gains should be measured from the value of initial release (~$1 million), not the 21BTC as that is a token amount and does not represent real world development costs.

James

Good idea.

"Do not pay much attention to the price of 1 NXT measured in fiat money." - BCNext


But the price of 1 Nxt measured in BTC is falling, although there were several good news in the last few days. I couldn't convince one of my friends whom funds I am managing to hold on his Nxts, so I bought his stake. I really hope it wasn't a bad decision of me.

I think its also due to the fact that BTC has also been falling the past few days. If you look at coinmarketcap a majority of the coins(including NXT) have been on the same trend as BTC. I don't think it will change until we get like a USD/NXT exchange.  

The only coin's in the top 20 seeming to go against the trend is DOGE and MSC.
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 13, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
people who invest in something that they dont understand the workings of are crazy! you may get lucky once or twice but eventually you will get taken really hard by a snake oil salesman. with that being said i genuinely hope that you get lucky.

it's hard to explain and I have a bad time explaining things in general...I do mostly understand eMunie and how it works (just how the eMunie system keeps the price per eMU stable and how it prevents things like pump-and-dumps is where I fall apart on).  I've also been able to test out the client for the last week, off-and-on, since I don't go on my computer much. Didn't invest anything and I would suggest people who are worried just wait till the client actually releases since there shouldn't be any price different per EMU between now and then and one can just set up a hatcher to generate eMU anyways Smiley .


The way I seen the client work simply is

0 eMU (initially) -> "sets up hatcher" -> generate "Earnings" of # EMU after an hour or so -> "Interest" and "Fees" then start forming depending on the demand of eMunie and amount one holds.

http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/115-newbies-read-me-first/ is pretty much everything one needs to know with regards to eMunie.

670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 13, 2014, 02:02:18 AM
@wakasaki80 How does it works in general ?

Well I really have a bad understanding of the way it actually works...

eMunie is ran in Java (like Nxt I believe Smiley ), beta testers download a zip named something like "emunie.9.72014.zip" which contains just a 1 single file (emunie.9.72014.jar). Once you click it then unpacks to form a "peer" folder and some other various files. You can then create a "hatcher" by creating a shortcut of the emunie.jar file and adding "-hatcher" to the end of "Target" in Properties(via Windows).

Double-clicking the link leads you to the client which looks like

(old client with some of the old transactions).

Leaving the client open you (with help of the hatcher and one's current holdings) will allow you to generate EMU's. This will gain interest on it the longer you hold it and depending on the demand of EMU(the system behind EMU will increase total supply of EMU if demand grows and stops creating new EMU if the demand stops). I'll try find a link that explains more about the system of eMunie and how it works...I really am bad (was corrected in the forum because of my last post in the other FUD thread.)

hopefully I am allowed to say all this outside of the beta forum...haven't been in a beta before other than some old PC games where I played it more than talked about it  Undecided ...

because Dan closed the open-pre-sale the price will end up being the Unit Value: $0.10 -> 1eMu no different than anybody else paid. The open pre-sale was designed to set up a price for the initial actual release according to Dan, so without this the price will likely be the same as the pre-sale price.

Here's a video that someone posted on the emunie forums (of the new Beta Window's Installer that was just released) didn't try the installer myself yet Tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOsvGz5X5OI
671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 13, 2014, 01:44:36 AM
a nice article:
A New Wave of 2nd Generation Cryptocurrencies: NXT, eMunie, SkyCoin, EarthCoin
http://alunacrypto.blogspot.cz/2013/12/a-new-wave-of-2nd-generation.html

Found some distressing news about emunie developer https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5399

Seems he is a known scammer, but it is all third hand, so best if you make your own conclusions. Seems to be very suspicious that the presale was closed based on the reason that trolls took up too much of his time. Huh?

If anybody knows of a serious competitor to NXT, please post about it. Need to know what the competition is up to. At this point, I am putting emunie in the potential competitor category. Until there is an open beta and/or open src, it could all be vaporware for all we know. Has anybody here actually used the beta of emunie?

James

I'm going to conclude that eMunie (scam or not) is toast. Dead. Not happening.
Just read Fuserleers (eMunies lead dev/creator/lord of all creation) post here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412118.0

The tl:dr version is that eMunie will not launch on schedule because fuserleer is upset by the trolls.
It's a very bad sign for eMunies credibility that one guy can derail what is potentially a massive project because he's a bit upset by criticism.
(...)

How you call in english a person who repeat anonimous accusations without checking them?

I understand that it is a real war with big money on stake but seriously how big thoughtless ignorant you should be to repeat such things? You don't get that it is attack on a real person damaging his reputation?

Here is Dan responce: http://forum.emunie.com/index.php?/topic/36-hi-im-dan/

Internet is part of ppl's real lifes. Recall it yourself next time seeing someone attacking NXT in the same nasty manner...

There is a lot of nasty attacks, blackmails on all altcoins with potential to surpass Bitcoin and change the world. There are real cyberattacks on dgex and NXT infrastructure and reputation too so you should see that this is part of something big is going on here.
 
If you want all of them to survive and be still free of take over / killing them attempts remember that we all are on the same board! And when one is attacked all of us are damaged and targeted.
 
 

Have U actually read Dan/fuserleers post on Bitcointalk?
I did, and what he himself said makes me very doubtful about eMunies future. If one person, in response to some criticism, can shut down a major project, then there is a problem with that project.

Look at the amount of criticism/trolling/hacks/DDoS attacks that NXT has gone thru in the last month. Has it been shut down by BCNext ?

I don't want to spread FUD and I am not going to start now, so just read all of the thread and make your own mind up.

EDIT: U will probably notice that I have made no accusations about Dan one way or another, he seems like a nice enough bloke.
I wish him all the best, but I'm not going to rush to invest in eMunie any time soon.


I have the eMunie beta client running right now. Been in Nxt since the price was still real cheap (.000001 btc/nxt) The download page that is linked by the people trying to FUD eMunie is just 1 of the 2 ways to download the client (for beta testers). Don't care if people think I'm a real person or not like some people have been claiming with others. I've never actually seen the download page before somebody posted it and I don't believe the way I download it (there is a link right above the troll-box on the forum) is included in that amount since we get our link from DropBox and not the forum.



link at the top of the trollbox leads to



and not



can't really back up the rest of Dan's history. But as a beta tester I just put my account in the beta tester thread and left the website. Didn't need to invest anything other than my time to post in the thread Tongue. At the very least, the client does work and one can generate eMunie from 0 eMunie (doesn't rely on POS other than interest which is very small amount .00050 EMU) in each of the new beta clients(which the wallet is wiped clean for each update).

672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [eToken] Giveaways thread (status: enabled) | 2000 eTOK ! Almost a sup reward ! on: January 11, 2014, 04:05:55 AM
ePZb5RtC87nhEhGFs7sxJjuN3csFpaJDfe

Thanks Smiley
673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie Beta Test on: January 10, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
Just to clear a few things up.

eMunie will have a 30 day PUBLIC pre-sale. You have 30 days to get in on the pre-sale which is to start late January-early February, it's your fault if you don't. Beta Pre-sales are no different than the public pre-sale. Everything is priced at $.10 unless you buy in bulk where it goes to $.09/10,000EMU or $.08/100,000EMU. Prices are priced at the same with just the Beta Testers getting 1000($100) eMunie and the founders getting 2000 ($200) eMunie for helping out development and bug fixes. Price might not even change(or even go lower) post-release depending on how much demand there is. IMO 30 days is a lot of time to decide to go with the pre-sale or not.

Beta eMunie wallets are wiped at every major beta client release. Nothing is usually carried over between beta clients. Nobody is getting real eMunie until the actual release occurs.

The system prevents huge price movements, so investors looking to get rich fast will NOT get rich fast unless there is outrageously high demand. You will not see a price fluctuation like BTC or anything of that sort. No "boss" as the EMU system is the boss, no-"body" manages eMunie supply. People try to dump eMunie and the system holds it to keep the price steady, if the demand grows the eMunie supply increases to keep the price steady as best as it can.

The client works fine, people can set up a hatcher(kind of like a miner) that allows you to generate eMunie through earnings and fee's. It's not 100% POS like Nxt, etc. But it requires more on CPU, and a SSD than GPU speed(not at all). So just holding eMunie will not give you the best Rate of Return.  

From what I have seen it's not a scam, and if it was a scam, Dan has gone through immense work in getting it to work. He has done a lot to get the client working really well and gone through a lot of work getting his idea working in client form. Someone can start the client with 0 EMU and generate EMU if they set up a hatcher, etc. Nobody is requiring anyone to invest. So wait for the release, test out the client and how it works, if it's not for you then just go on your way in the crypto world Smiley
674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 09, 2014, 09:56:13 PM
I have a suggestion for nxt (idk if it has been suggested or not) an option for a warning prompt when sending nxt to an address that has never been used on the network so far.

agree. Something like "Address being sent to has not been used yet. Would you still like to send?" or something like that. If that's even possible.
675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: UNI - UNITECOIN - Giveaway - Let's Get United! Totally 100 People - 20 Each on: January 09, 2014, 09:10:16 PM
UgPcjvDjpfhTZamByUKRYyaPTYYanMns88

Thanks Smiley
676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NEW!1 Datacoin Giveaway to first 30 that will...see post. on: January 09, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
wakasaki808

DFnAcBEZbBPKqZsH8Ld4nLKkghgDXHS1uz

Thanks Smiley
677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Noblecoin giveaway 2000 coins to first 50 posts BE QUICK! on: January 09, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
9YYVUsoZQxsr2uf6jhS1JJ8MmuWqq4Q868

Thank You Smiley
678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann][VTC] Vertcoin - adaptive N-factor in Litecoin - CPU-only mining on: January 09, 2014, 08:33:40 AM
neat
679  Other / Archival / Re: [VSC]Visacoin:Born for circulation--based on BTC-Gold--Project start!!! on: January 08, 2014, 07:49:45 AM
Whoever is behind the scam is making some good money lol.
680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SHS] Shares [Second Generation Crypto Currency] [Project Announcement] on: January 08, 2014, 07:15:13 AM
You should just upload whatever you have of Shares in a file for everyone to see. Even if the thing was half finished.
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