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661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 09:35:09 PM
If Liverpool should draw with Manchester United, they know what's at stake for them in the Premier League table. A draw with Manchester United indicates that they wish to give up ground to Arsenal to stay above them, as Arsenal will undoubtedly win at home against Brighton. Therefore, regardless of how defensively Manchester United plays, Liverpool will make every effort to defeat Manchester United to maintain their recent top position in the Premier League standings.
I think Liverpool has everything to beat Man United. They performed well in EPL matches lately, they also will play at home in the upcoming match. They are unbeatable in the last 5 matches, meanwhile Man United always performed very unstable. Moreover, there are too many problem with Man United lately, it may bother their focus in playing. So, there is no reason that the match against Man United will end with a draw. I'm very sure that Liverpool will get full points in the upcoming match. I even doubt that Arsenal can easily win against Brighton. This team sometimes becomes the obstacle of the top teams in EPL. So, Arsenal can't underestimate Brighton although Arsenal is superior against them.

662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 14, 2023, 09:24:52 PM
Joao Felix performance does seem unsatisfactory, he may not be the kind of striker who score a lot of goals for his clubs, while Xavi Hernandez need a striker who has more quality than that and what is certain is that Barcelona will think carefully if they want to recruit him, which is not worth the price of €80 million for recruiting a striker like Joao Felix is a very expensive price,~
Indeed. If we consider the number of goals or assist made by Felix, he doesn't seem already contributing a lot for Barcelona. Xavi must think again to spend €80 million for signing Felix. I agree with you, €80 million seems too expensive for signing Felix. Moreover, Felix isn't a typical player who can make many goals in every season. Xavi needs another player who can guarantee many goals, Felix still isn't the best option for this matter.

I thinks Barcelona will choose another option in the transfer market. It look like Barcelona won't spending much money to recruited players considering his dire financial condition.
Well, you're right. Xavi seems prefer to sign a player like Osimhen, L. Martinez, or Mbappe if they need to spend huge amount of money. €80 million isn't a small amount of money, Barcelona must have many options with that money. Sure, Barcelona probably gets a better player with €80 million. So, it is unlikely to sign Felix if Atletico Madrid sets €80 million for the price.

663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top altcoin that you won't buy anymore on: December 14, 2023, 09:13:18 PM
XRP is so manipulated and the supply is too much ffor it to make a huge profit unless you haave gobbled a large sum of XRP which means you have a huge capital that you can wait for it to break its ATH which was $3. In the last bull run, they didn't make it. If you were an investor of XRP at that time, you may have been disappointed as well. XRP though is great for sending as payment since its fast and with a cheaper transaction fee.
What do you mean by "so manipulated"?  Huh
I don't think the total supply is a problem as long as the price still can increase normally. Dogecoin even has unlimited total supply, but people still invest in Dogecoins due to its high increase. It is true that XRP didn't create a new ATH in the last bullrun season (2021), but the price of XRP could increase quite well. Taking profits doesn't always to wait for the new ATH, right?

Ihmo solana had unreasonable amount of fear included because it was endorsed by SBF, and because ftx/sam had large bags of it, so obviously everyone panicked about the dump. Solana itself was a victim by association, and had way more severe blows then it deserved. But then again, solana wasn't only one and could have easily failed with others without the connection. Just because or overall crypto bearmarket.
Although Solana has that bad news, in fact the price of Solana still could increase well lately. I think people will still feel optimistic in Solana because Solana actually has great fundamentals. People will forget any bad news related to Solana as long as it can prove that it doesn't hinder the development of Solana and its price in the market. Moreover, we are heading the bullrun season, people will assume positively related to the potential of SOL price in the next year.

664  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you still use Banks ? on: December 14, 2023, 08:59:16 PM
We have cryptocurrency you still use Banks ?
In my country, we only can use crypto coins for investment. We can't use crypto coins for paying goods or services. So, of course we still use banks, we need fiats for daily needs. It is impossible to use crypto coins for the payment purposes because it breaks our laws.

Do you use more crypto or banks for your daily or average transactions ?
We use fiats for daily transactions. We pay goods and services by using fiats.
We have crypto coins in the private wallets or exchange wallets for investment. We sometimes convert the crypto coins to fiats whenever we need fresh money. We can't use it for paying anything in our country.

Do you think banks not working reliable any more ?
I think banks function quite reliable in my country. But there are too many banks here, there are too many options for banks. As far as I know, most people in my country still feel satisfied with bank services. The main problem is still related to bank loan interest, but people sometimes have no other choice.

665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 14, 2023, 08:49:14 PM
Leverkusen win 5:1 and win Group H with the best result of all teams. 6 games 6 wins and 19:3 goals, they showed how good that is today in the game against Molde. Boniface Victor scored the most goals in the Europa League last season = 6, and now he has 4 goals in 5 games, he should do better this season. Leverkusen are a team that can win the cup, and Liverpool and Olympique Marseille should also has a good chance.
Yep. Leverkusen performed perfectly, they win all the matches in the group stage. No other teams could win all the matches, including Liverpool and Roma. In the early competition, we hope Liverpool and Roma will perform well as Leverkusen, but they seem not in their best form. So, we can assume that Leverkusen is the most favorite team to win this competition because they look to play consistently until the end of this competition.

In the Premier League Competition, I'm impressed with Liverpool. They have good midfielder's and attackers but I'm not a fan of them defending players. Klopp has to get a new defender if he must win the Premier League. They don't have a good defense as far as I know.
In the final match of the group stage, Liverpool didn't play with their best lineup. No only the defense, their midfielders and attackers look not really great. It is different with the matches in EPL, they use the best lineup. So, they can get maximum results in each EPL match. But in Europa League, Klopp often rotates the starting lineups. In this matter, we can't compare their matches in EPL and in Europa League.

666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 13, 2023, 09:36:37 PM
Girona will be able to make many surprises this season because they are so ambitious to make new history in Laliga. It is difficult for other teams to overthrow Barcelona at Camp Nou with a big score but Girona can do it.
They already made surprises although it is still the first half of the season. They may have the big ambition, but their good teamwork that makes them to play very strong. People mustn't expect they will beat Barcelona at home in matchday 16. But they proved it by defeating Barcelona with 4 goals. Sure, no team can underestimate Girona now. Girona can challenge any team in La Liga because they have proven that they are capable to do it.

However, in terms of defense, of course their defense is not that strong because they have conceded 20 goal, But that is not a bad thing because Girona is able to turn many situations around in every match they play. In my opinion, Girona will be able to close the season in the top 4 and could even be the team that succeeds in winning the Laliga Trophy this season.
Yes, Girona defense may be the weakest line. But I don't think Girona have bad quality of defenders. They also have good midfielders to help the defense line to be stronger. So, I think Girona mustn't feel so worried about their defense line. They are conceded many goals because they are playing quite offensive. Well, I think Girona must finish in the top 3 if they can maintain their good performance.

667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 13, 2023, 09:26:41 PM
Even though there is a greater possibility for Napoli to win the match at home when facing Cagliari, I think Napoli should not underestimate a team like Cagliari because this season Cagliari also often surprises in matches with other big teams. So Napoli also have to be more serious in facing Cagliari because every victory must always be achieved with struggle. Because victory will not come by itself if the team does not try more seriously even though the team they are facing is a small team.
In theory, Napoli must win against Cagliari. Napoli has a better squad and they also will play the match at home. We know that Cagliari is in the 16th place, it is not very far from the relegation zone. From this position, we also know that Cagliari is not in their good performance this season. So, playing against weaker team like Cagliari which isn't in their good performance, Napoli must get full points. However, I agree that we don't underestimate any team in Serie A because the small team can be an obstacle if they can play as a solid team during the match. But I believe that Napoli will beat Cagliari with big scores in the upcoming match.  Wink


668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Investors Confidence in Bitcoin💪 on: December 13, 2023, 09:13:19 PM
Where can we see the future price of BTC? So far all I see is its past and present price. This is the only thing that we got, but a person can be too optimistic by only looking at the patterns on the charts. They think it will be followed again and they already calculated if how much the value of BTC will be in the future. Not all that we see are true, especially online. So, be careful on replicating them. It could be possible that they are created for the people to FOMO in BTC.
Sure, no way to know the Bitcoin future price. We only can make speculation about the future price of Bitcoin. Most of us probably use the same in speculating the price. We analyze chart patterns, some fundamental aspects, and the current news. But this surely never guarantees the price of Bitcoin in the future. So I agree that we don't easily believe in all the price prediction made by people. There are people who want to make the hype or FOMO through the possibility of significant price increase during the next  bullrun season. I my self prefer to do my own analysis and make own prediction about the possibility of Bitcoin price in the future.  Wink

And once those people realize that what they saw/hear and what they currently experience are not the same, they can quit on it (sell at a loss). That is how manipulators make money.
But experienced people probably won't experience this. It is mostly happening in the beginners. Only those people who still have lack of knowledge that don't know the bullrun may not happening in the same pattern. Each bullrun season may have its own pattern. So, we shouldn't be too dependent on the previous bullrun period in making the strategy for the upcoming bullrun season.

669  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What should newbies do in trading? on: December 13, 2023, 08:53:48 PM
I'm also beginner in trading. I trade since this summer and I lost about $90 on $120 account. Recently I make $20 on last $34.
It seems you already find a better way in trading. Although you got a loss $90, but you finally could make a profit about $20. Maybe you traded in the wrong way previously, now you already trade in a proper way. I can understand if you didn't succeed suddenly in your first attempt in trading, you are just a beginner, right? However, although you still couldn't take profits with huge money, there is a good progress in your trading journey at least.

It seems to me that I understand enough about technical analysis, trading systems and trader psychology. But I'm at a dead end and don't know what to do next. Other traders advised me to just trade, but I think that over time I will lose my remaining $45,
Although you understand well the fundamental of trading but you have a lack of experience. Sometimes experience has a big role to determine the success in trading. So, don't give up! You probably will trade better when you already have enough knowledge. Losing the money is something normal in trading, it will give you an experience and a lesson to trade better. As long as you use small money in trading, I think it is okay. Don't too obsessed to get huge profits now!!

~ demo trading does not bring such emotions and I don’t want to try hard when trading it
Demo trading never gives you a real experience. It is just the way to understand basic things in trading. So, don't rely on demo trading to improve your trading!

670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 12, 2023, 09:59:37 PM
We are already entering the ending of the match against Manchester United vs. Bayern Munich, and Munich just scored a goal. Now Manchester United doesn’t have any hope left, all they need in the match is a win. Even if they struggle to equalise, it’s of no use. Before they won’t be eliminated, they need to score two goals in the match, and they have to defend Bayern Munich from scoring more goals, which won’t be possible. Bayern Munich will never allow Manchester United to win the match. The highest that can happen between them is for them to play a draw in the match, which is of no use to Manchester United.
The match is over already, Bayern Munich defeated Man United with 1 goal. It means Man United failed to qualify for the next round in UCL, they also won't go to the plays-off round in Europa League because Man United only finished in the lowest place of group A. Since Bayern Munich played with their best lineup today, I think everyone not really surprising with the result. Man United simply has no chance to beat Bayern Munich because they have stronger players and more organized in playing. According to the stats, it is clear that Bayern Munich dominated the match, they are leading in shot attempts and ball possessions. It is a bit surprised that they play with full team, Bayern Munich didn't give the chance for the main players to take a rest in the final match of the group stage.

Anyway, Galatasaray failed to qualify for the next round, Copenhagen defeated them with 1 goal. So, Bayern Munich and Copenhagen are 2 teams that qualify for the knock-out phase from group A.

671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 12, 2023, 09:55:53 PM
Felix performance in Barcelona cannot be say good because from 12 matches which he played Felix only able to scores 2 goals and indeed Xavi personally want to permanent his status at the end of this season because Felix looks very suitable to Xavi strategy but Laliga still has 23 matches remaining and Felix should be showing more effort to be performing well for each matches because if he unable to do that probably Xavi will change his decision and will not permanent his status and Atletico Madrid fans wouldn't accept him anymore so after this season ended the options is only two for Felix that stayed in Barcelona with permanent status or moved to other teams instead of Atletico Madrid and Barcelona have to spend a lot of money to bought him and with the current their financial status it's really hard to realized this transfer
He already played 13 matches in La Liga, he scored 2 goals and gave 2 assists. In UCL he played 5 matches, scored 3 goals and 1 assist. According to this stats, I agree that it looks not a really impressive. Even, the performance in La Liga can be categorized "unsatisfying" because there are no significant contribution from him yet. We can't conclude that he is good for Barcelona based in 1-2 matches only.

If Felix can't improve more his contribution for Barcelona, I don't think Xavi wants to spend a big money for Felix transfer fees. Barcelona management also won't considers to spend more than his market value. So, I even think it is quite doubtful if Xavi wants to pay the transfer fees more than €50m. So, it seems impossible if Atletico Madrid expects €80m from Barcelona.

672  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: December 12, 2023, 09:44:45 PM
Kalau untuk membandingkan harga di tahun depan (2024), jangan yang di harga di 2021 gan, tapi di harga tahun 2020. Karena tren bitcoin itu selalu di selaraskan dengan tahun halving. Nah di periode 2021 yang kamu sebutkan itu adalah Year+1 halving.
Betul. Kalau mau membandingkan, selaraskan waktunya. Lihat itu di tahun ke berapa baik bearish ataupun bullishnya.  Smiley

Apa yang terjadi pada bitcoin dalam 24 jam terakhir?
Beberapa analisis mengatakan bahwa sebagian besar trader yang memasang laverage long telah keluar karena menurunnya tingkat keserakahan. Selanjutnya, beberapa holder juga disebutkan keluar setelah mendapatkan indikasi penurunan cepat disaat harga bitcoin gagal menembus resistensi $45k. Ane terkejut dengan apa yang terjadi, tetapi koreksi seperti ini biasanya akan memperkuat dan menata kembali kenaikan yang lebih baik dalam jangka panjang.
Kenapa terkejut? Toh kenaikan harga BTC kemaren-kemaren bahkan sudah melebihi prediksi kita.
Harga BTC memang sudah saatnya untuk koreksi, supply di market sudah over. Sesuai dengan hukum ekonomi, kalau supply sudah berlimpah maka harga akan turun. Selain itu, perlu ada ruang untuk ancang-ancang harga bisa lebih naik lebih tinggi nantinya. Para investor juga punya waktu untuk entry lagi jika harga turun. Menurut saya ini malah menjadi hal yang menguntungkan, ada penurunan harga yang lumayan dari $44k ke $40k di saat halving semakin dekat. Kita diberi waktu untuk bisa beli di harga yang cukup murah.

673  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Berani mengambil resiko apakah salah satu tindakan menuju sukses on: December 12, 2023, 09:32:18 PM
berani mengambil resiko untuk investasi pada bitcoin artinya berani juga untuk merelakan uang kita nilainya berkurang di pasar jika harga bitcoin menurun.
Harga tidak selamanya turun, harga juga tidak selamanya naik. Harga Bitcoin tentu akan selalu berfluktuasi. Namun yang perlu dipahami adalah siklus harganya, terutama siklus market bullish dan bearishnya. BTW tidak ada isitlahnya merelakan uang karena pada dasaranya kita tidak kehilangan uang selama Bitcoinnya masih dihold (belum dijual). Jika nilai uang pada Bitcoin bisa naik atau turun, itulah seninya dalam berinvestasi Bitcoin.

karena kebanyakan orang yang pertama kali berinvestasi pada bitcoin mempunyai pemikiran bahwa ketika mereka investasi mereka bisa mendapatkan profit yang cepat dalam waktu singkat.
Mindset investasi untuk untung cepat itu jelas salah. Kalau mau untung cepat, silahkan pilih trading yang bisa TP harian atau mingguan. Kalau investasi, itu untuk hold dalam jangka waktu tertentu, tidak bisa berharap untuk untung secara intan atau segera. Biasanya orang investasi Bitcoin itu hitungan tahun, tergantung target dan waktu entry nya. Kalau patokannya siklus bearih-bullish, jika entry di tahun pertama bearish, berarti investasinya lebih kurang 3-4 tahun.

674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 11, 2023, 10:00:05 PM
You know Manchester United does not sack coaches like Chelsea. I think the Manchester United board will give Erik Ten Hag till the January transfer window to try and improve the Manchester United squad, but if Erik Ten Hag fails to transform Manchester United football, then he will be sacked.
I also believe that Man United will give a chance for Ten Hag to end the season. Man United will consider to fire him after the season is over. Sure, Man United will let Ten Hag to improve their squad by signing new players in January transfer window. It will be the last chance for him to get new players this season, Ten Hag must try to optimize the chance. I think Ten Hag will try to strengthen Man United defense and attacking. These lines are in urgent to improve if Ten Hag wants Man United performs better.

If Ten Hag fails this season, surely he must accept the consequence. I don't think Man United will try to keep him longer, Man United must prepare another coach to replace him. But since it won't be easy to find a new coach, Man United management will give time to Ten Hag until the end of the season. Man United management seems wiser than Chelsea management.  Wink

675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 11, 2023, 09:54:39 PM
Even if Girona cannot become champions, they can go to the UCL. For this, it will be enough to finish the league in the top 4 places. If we look at the game they played against Barcelona, ​​this squad may even qualify from the groups in the UCL. They are experiencing amazing success this year. It's a dream season for Girona. I hope there will be a change in La Liga and they finish at the top.
Yep. Girona is likely will finish this season in the top 3 of La Liga standings. They already showed us about their ability to beat any team in La Liga, including the top teams. They just defeated Barcelona yesterday, it is proven that Girona is strong enough to defend their position in the top positions of La Liga standings. It makes sense if people have a big hope with Girona after they could defeat Barcelona. I myself believe that they even will finish the season above the top 4, they will try to keep their position in the top 3. They are also possible to join the race for the title until the end of the season.

What change do you mean? We already see a change, you can see Girona is in the top of La Liga standings. But being the champion, it should be a very difficult thing because Real Madrid must be a strong competitor. They won't let Girona to get the trophy this season.

676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: December 11, 2023, 09:43:51 PM
Real Betis will probably qualify from Group C. This team is in form now. They performed well against Real Madrid in the last match and managed to draw the match 1-1. A draw against Rangers will qualify them for the next round.
Real Betis will play at home against Rangers. Real Betis are strong at home despite losing the away match 1-0. I predict this match will be a 1-1 draw.
A win against Roma side Sheriff Tiraspol in Group G means they have little chance of going top of the table. Because Slavia Praha doesn't seem to lose their last match against Servette.
Real Betis should have the chance to qualify for the next round. But I'm not really sure about this because Real Betis performance looks not really in a very good form lately. In La Liga, they mostly got draw results in the last 5 matches, they only won 2 matches. However, their performance is good enough because they never got a defeat in the last 5 matches. If we analyze their matches in Europa League so far, Real Betis was defeated by Rangers in matchday 1. But it was in Rangers home, Rangers also just won with a single match. So, Rangers may be lucky in the first match of the group stage. In the upcoming match, the situation will be different. The match will be held in Real Betis home, so Real Betis will get the advantage. So, we can assume Real Betis is possible to win the match, they will try to optimize the advantage laying at their own stadium.

677  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: December 11, 2023, 09:28:14 PM
Bitcoin is very risky that I'll advice anyone who have no knowledge about it first not to risk put money in it, what makes bitcoin easy for people is when they really understands it. So before you start investing in Bitcoin you have to make sure that their is an understanding of bitcoin,  going into bitcoin without any understanding is a risks that one can end up unprofitable,  understanding the market is what every  investor should be aware of.
When someone has no knowledge, it doesn't make sense that he tries to invest or trade Bitcoin. How he can do it properly if he has no knowledge? He must do it by guessing. This is absolutely the wrong way, it probably ends up with losses. Sure, everyone who wants to invest/trade in Bitcoin, must ensure that he has sufficient knowledge. We must realize that investing/trading in Bitcoin basically is a high risk due to its price volatility. It will be riskier if we have no proper knowledge. So, having knowledge and understanding it well, must be an absolute requirement before someone starts trading or investing in Bitcoin.

678  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: December 11, 2023, 09:16:57 PM
Bitcoin and crypto trading is a good activity. It is a favorite of the new generation and youth. Women also do it with great enthusiasm. Trading is a such task. Which everyone can learn. And can earn by trading. Trading is also gives fun. And this is a good positive activity.
 Many young and old have become millionaires trading on crypto. Trading here does not require a lot of capital, but it starts with a small amount of capital. Whereas in normal traditional business, the business requires a lot of capital. While crypto work can be start with very little capital, anyone can do it. And can earn well.
Sure, trading Bitcoin or altcoins is categorized as a good activity because it offers the chance to earn money if we succeed in trading. I don't know whether it is a favorite activity or not, people may have different perception about trading in a different place. In a certain place, trading can be popular activity but it can be not a familiar activity in another place. 

Well, not every person can succeed in trading. So, not all young people can become millionaires in trading. In this matter, we can't conclude that many young people can succeed and be millionaires. We must admit that there are many people who experience losses in trading as well. In reality, not everyone can earn good money from trading.

679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 10, 2023, 09:56:16 PM
Well, with Al Hilal managing to beat Al Nassr with a big score, basically this result shows that Al Hilal is the best team this season. Because even other candidates such as Al Nassr still failed to beat Al Hilal and thus it is certainly appropriate for Al Hilal to get a trophy this season. Although, of course, there are still many matches until the end of the season, but still, with the current points gap or the current 7 point gap, basically it is still difficult for Al Nassr to take over the top position. Because yes, the only hope to thwart Al Hilal is to hope that Al Hilal will suffer consecutive defeats and yes, this factor also seems difficult to happen at this moment.
So far, Al Hilal can prove us that they are the best team in Saudi League this season. They can beat Al Nassr with 3 goals, without conceded a single goal. And they are also still unbeatable until now, they only got 2 draws. These are enough to prove that Al Hilal is the strongest team, no team in SPL can beat them.

Sure, Al Hilal deserves to win SPL trophy, they have a good squad. Al Hilal even has a super star (Neymar), sadly he got injury and must take a rest for a long time. But Al Hilal has enough quality players to win all the matches in Saudi League this season. What makes them stronger is they can play solidly, they don't rely on their top players only.

Indeed, with the current point gap, Al Hilal is superior to win the trophy. It will be difficult for any team to overtake them, specifically if they will keep the record of "unbeatable".

680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 10, 2023, 09:46:06 PM
Joao Felix is definitely a great player and we saw that in the games we saw from this player but the fact about Joao Felix is he should leave the team unless Barcelona hires this player permanently, I think the player Xavi chose during the time he was working at Barcelona was mostly effective and to be honest Xavi didn't spend money on useless players so far.
I don't think he is a really great player because he sometimes still plays underperformance. He ever played in Chelsea, I think he didn't succeed when he was loaned in Chelsea. But since he is still young (24 years old) and he has good skills, we can expect that he has a potential to be a great player in the future. His problem is about consistency in playing. I assume he will be more consistent to play in good form as he gets more experience in the future. So, actually he deserves to sign by Barcelona. Moreover, if his play style fits with Xavi's tactics/strategies.

I really hope that Barcelona and Xavi will try to sign him from Atletico Madrid. But I guess Barcelona must pay to Atletico Madrid more than his current market price (€50m). I heard the rumor that Atletico Madrid expects to get €80m by selling Felix.

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