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661  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: NPW 5.1 p2Pool - bad luck or flawed? on: June 22, 2012, 03:32:53 PM
something else to keep in mind is that work lasts longer than 1 round, sometimes work lasts 2-5 blocks later. so the work is distributed, pps comparisons are somewhat skewed because of this. the pps is going to be lower, but has momentum. so if you quit, you still get paid for a while even though your hashrate is zero.
662  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: FastCash4Bitcoins (Update: FREE ACH and automated website will launch on Sunday) on: June 21, 2012, 08:48:54 PM
Site does not work ? Just the logo is shown, nothing else ?

yep that's right. it's all done by PM or email.
663  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What is the easiest way to mine? on: June 21, 2012, 08:39:08 PM
to buy, use an exchange.

campbx.com

bitfloor.com

or if you must, mtgox.com
664  Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini Rigs in the wild! on: June 21, 2012, 08:24:37 PM
Why do you want to order a MiniRig now that the new products are around the corner. Just wait a month or two.

That is what I want to discuss with them - preOrder, Leadtime, Tradein etc

If the new one ship in October then yes you are right. If it end up being later in 2013 well...

there's no way in hell they will ship in october unless they already have the chips fabbed and are assembling things now.

realistically it'll be october for prototyping and a few more months for production at least. especially for someone as small scale as BFL is.
665  Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini Rigs in the wild! on: June 21, 2012, 08:21:35 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics Cheesy

BFL has pics on their site: http://www.butterflylabs.com/production-update/

they have empty cases and renderings on their site.
666  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL refused to issue refund because it was paid with bitcoin (via Bitpay) on: June 21, 2012, 08:19:14 PM
well you could always file a small claims against them for the original purchase price in bitcoins + fees and make the come cross country to defend themselves.
667  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Maximum Mhash/s for 6950? on: June 21, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
Dont mean to hijack this, but it is kinda on topic.

I currently have four 5850s and they are getting about 370 Mhash/s each, but to find them I have to dig on ebay and spend around $150-$180 for each.  

I found a site that offers new Powercolor 6950 for about $140, but the site makes me nervous.  Im almost 100% they are shipped from overseas, but I dont know if this is a "too goo to be true" deal or not.  http://xavier.audiogoshop.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3272

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

better off buying some 7970's new for around $400-450. get a warranty and similar mhash and better power usage and no shady deals.
668  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ Bonus PPS Pool - 110% ] - Public Beta - WAITING LIST OPEN on: June 21, 2012, 05:59:49 PM
lol, ok good to know and thanks Clipse Cheesy

now I have to figure out what miner has this pool still left as a backup pool or something.

How are things in bonuspool land?
669  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [ Bonus PPS Pool - 110% ] - Public Beta - WAITING LIST OPEN on: June 21, 2012, 05:22:15 PM
hmm I got a random payment of 0.0001737 for my address I used on this pool a while ago. Did it come from here?

AFAIK none of my miners have this pool anymore.
670  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 7 slot mobo 135$ on: June 21, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
its 7 pcie. the bottom slot is pci express. it just is different than the others.
671  Other / Off-topic / Re: Mini Rigs in the wild! on: June 21, 2012, 01:38:16 PM
Now I want you to tear one open and take some pics Cheesy
672  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [Project X] PPS Mining Club: High Mining Rewards *REGISTRATION Closing Soon* on: June 21, 2012, 01:08:17 PM
Quote from: martychubbs

It's Mr. Chubby, if you're nasty!


You didn't take that seriously did you?

( re: the new avatar lol )
673  Other / Off-topic / Re: other girls? on: June 20, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
never admit to being a girl, on the internet.
674  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 20, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Yeah, I have to say that even an international wire shouldn't be so delayed if the sender is properly verified. There are two main issues I can see that would explain the MT Gox situation:

1) MT Gox is getting extra scrutiny from Japanese regulators, such that they are performing extra vetting and doing so in a slow manner. Dealing in a virtual product and wiring many different entities money without being a registered bank or financial company.

2) MT Gox is keeping the majority of their non-bitcoin funds in an interest bearing account that trades a withdrawal delay for higher interest rate. They have a smaller slush pool to deal with small withdrawals but large withdrawal requests would require transferring funds from the interest account (that could take a couple of business weeks). If they were being very stingy on how much they remove from the interest bearing account then there would be an almost perpetual 2 weekish delay for large withdrawals. In practice, it would be a bit of a lottery on who gets stuck waiting as MT Gox would probably be withdrawing a bit more than the minimum needed to fulfill the immediate requests. So the backlog gets fulfilled and then a percentage of the large withdrawal requests made afterwards.

If it is #2, I'm surprised they haven't restructured it to be less of a pain.

3) MT Gox is insolvent on the USD side, and they need to wait for other clients to deposit additional USD before they can process large withdrawals.

You know they use banks that send wires, it's digital money. They don't have a scrooge mcduck pile of USD and euros and whatever else. the banks can easily and fairly cheaply convert the currency on the fly to whatever. Gox probably uses a brokerage house that can do it much much more cheaply, or they've contracted with one that is completely and totally inept.
675  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: So I guess MtGox isn't even trying anymore ... on: June 20, 2012, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: bulanula
Dood, it is AML. Once you cross the $10 000 limit it automatically kicks in due to US gov regulations.

No US citizen can have more than 10k in foreign bank accounts without filing tax reports, or at least that was something I read in another thread Grin

No solvency issues here, move on Tongue

They don't investigate shiat when you send/receive over 10K. I wire 250-300K around for a ship to refuel at foreign ports. It's a simple form(s) that is automatically done by a computer. They just have to file the form. They don't have to hold the transaction to file it, only report it.  It's the same thing in the US. Wire transfers are virtually instant. Assuming someone actually processes them.
676  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Maximum Mhash/s for 6950? on: June 20, 2012, 03:57:00 PM
I have one 6950. OC to 925. Does 380 mhash solid for over a year. Probably my most stable card.
677  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER GPU FPGA overclock monitor fanspeed GCN RPC linux/windows/osx 2.4.3 on: June 20, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
in 2.4.3 sometimes a miner will "crash" but still be hashing, just not submitting shares. Stats on api still update, mhash changes on every refresh but no work gets done.

for all purposes the miner looks up, its not marked dead or sick.

it's frustrating. seen it 3 times now on different boxes.

never had an issue with 2.4.2. I may roll back some of my miners.
678  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [400GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
The PPS shows a lot of variance in daily payouts - why is that? But the p2Pool earnings are really low. Do you have any local data you can post for me? Your expected earnings based on a difficulty of 1600000 are

Code:
10*10^9/2^32*24*3600*50/1.6e06 = 6.286 coins per day. 

The p2Pool earnings are much less than that - around 18% expected daily earnings. Your PPS earnings are also a little on the low side, too, about 74% expected. Is there a lot of downtime? any reported problems on the p2Pool cluster?

actually that's a bad example as each pool i've been on uses a different address. and the payouts are all over. I'll cobble something together for you.
679  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [400GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2012, 02:49:14 PM
here's a quick example

p2pool

http://blockchain.info/address/148EuEq79DQtpVU9rZwqxNFeDG3jq4E16v

pps

http://blockchain.info/address/1M79Fm5fF8eQXMMLg8AW5WohaF9vfwSvF3

both are exact same cluster ~10gh

nothing has changed the entire time outside of occasional downtime for each.

look at earnings per day.
680  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [400GH/s] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: June 20, 2012, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: organofcorti
Well, maybe I know what I'm doing. Meni Rosenfeld brought up some very good points about my conclusions here and I'm starting to think he's right. Without a plausible mechanism to explain what's going on, it's probably bad luck or a problem with reporting rather than a loss of earnings. That's what I want the data for, to see if earnings are as expected even if the round length reporting implies that it's not.


except in the real world it doesn't match up either. I split my rigs half p2pool and half pps for several months. p2pool was less than half of the earnings of the PPS. Now granted I mined on >100% pps pools. but still, it wasn't even close. pps easily was 2-3 times earnings of p2pool. the only time p2pool even came close was on a good day with 4-5 blocks, it matched the average pps.
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