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661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: April 15, 2015, 09:55:19 PM
I think you're getting too deep into it. A lot of Americans still think it was a suicidal terrorist attack made to bring the States to its knees and the government wasn't involved.
The majority also believes the Pentagon was hit by a plane, that later burned down and disappeared...
662  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Do You Think of Hillary's Campaign Logo? on: April 15, 2015, 07:45:28 PM
H could be seen as "homo" and the arrow as "go". Go homo! It needs more pink though Cheesy

 
663  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Losses on: April 15, 2015, 07:36:45 PM
I lost some money trading in April 2014 when it went down to $400 and started quickly going up to the 600s. Bought in somewhere along the way and had about a month to sell it with profit, but ended up holding until it went down below $500 and never recovered. It wasn't a big loss maybe $1000, but it could've been twice that on the positive if I sold for $680. No regrets Smiley
664  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you were an artificial intelligent robot, what currency would you accept? on: April 14, 2015, 10:49:30 PM
If we all have some AI inside us in this future world Bitcoin would become very stable.
I'd have nothing against using a stable and safe currency, the Bitcoin of the future Smiley
665  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I have $5,000 to buy equipment and almost free electricity. Where do I start? on: April 14, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
this is the reason why cloud are better, no electricity to worry about, and no anything else you mentioned, basically the risk are the same with physical HW but the cost are much less

and another thing good to do now is to buy bitcoin and forget about mining completely

Nothing to worry about and then one day they run away with your money.
I agree with the second part, Bitcoin is really close to this years bottom, so if you wanted to buy in cheap here's your chance. If Bitcoin follows its typical pattern it will jump at least 10% by the end of the year. Less risky than being stuck with hardware if you ask me.
666  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I have $5,000 to buy equipment and almost free electricity. Where do I start? on: April 13, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Im not saying he will earn.  Im just saying to mine first with his computer to familliarize how mining works. Before you invest 5k dollars on mining.  You should study it first.  Not just buy right away

It's not that hard. Most miners come with their own programs where you just enter the address of the pool and boom, you're mining.
Mining with your GPU is usually harder than that Wink
667  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Got my ROI some days ago... on: April 13, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
Still even with that all being said.  Show a way they can sell 1T for a year for 1.4 BTC, and in that have fees and electricity included in cost.   I just don't see it, to good to be true.
If somebody is offering such prices at the moment it's most likely a scam. 5TH SP30s costed $2k, so the initial cost of 1TH is close to $400, which is already more than 1.4BTC. This was possible a couple months ago, when 1BTC was worth over $300 but not now.
668  Economy / Speculation / Re: Support is holding, they said on: April 13, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Price is just being manipulated down by Wall Street before they buy in big. They'll start the next rally any day now. 

Weak hands something something cheap coins.



Thats what they said !! But honestly everyday that goes by the amount of weakhands is increasing as everyones individual physiological sell barriers are different ...
And this will continue until we reach the spot where the dumpers run out of money and decide it's time to buy back and it will probably be somewhere around $200. Keep in mind that only small percentage of Bitcoin users ate trading and following the price. The majority don't even keep money on exchanges.
669  Economy / Speculation / Re: 2 week target $160 on: April 13, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Kwuk's going to miss the deadline by a few weeks. But, bitcoin's march to $160 continues...
How often do you make a new sock? My guess is somewhere between 2 and 3 days.
670  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Beginner miner need advice please on: April 13, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
The guy said he has $6k and you're already trying to drag him into cloud mining. Maybe before he decides somebody should show him the list of cloud offers that went bankrupt in the last 12 months or turned out to be scams. Even the ones like PB that was running for a year without problems was a scam.
671  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Got my ROI some days ago... on: April 13, 2015, 08:48:18 PM
That's why they rarely just sell contracts. Those who aren't trying to scam you use the money you gave them to trade and invest, maybe even convert to fiat and lend it and of course mine for themselves.
It can be possible to offer legit cloud mining contracts but the deal just not that profitable. Both parties the buyers and the sellers will be balancing on the edge throughout the lifespan of the contract, unless Bitcoin enters another bubble in which case everybody wins.

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Just doing math on it.  Lets say for your 1T they run a S5 for 10 cents a kw.  (They would have cooling, employees, hosting, etc etc fees).
But they run the S5 for $1.39 a day.  Take that times 365 day's that they say are included in price.  They will spend over 500 dollars in a year not including the S5 for lets say 340.

When they are mining for themselves somebody is always in the facility anyway, so there are no actual employees, there can be 2 or 3 investors, who are also looking after their own gear by being in the building.
Cooling is the cheaper the bigger the facility - here's where the costs are being cut compared to your own small mine, same with power cost.

672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin student survey on: April 13, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
I did it and have to say some questions about the economics were not that obvious, a lot of people may not be familiar with some of the terminology.
Hope to see the results once you finish and good luck with your research.
673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cop "accidently" shoots and kills man. on: April 13, 2015, 08:05:16 PM
It really looks like they shot him when he was already on the ground. It's hard to get anything from the video but the suspect looked fine when he was running and being caught by the cop, so the shot must've happened later. He wasn't threatening them and was unarmed, weapons should've never been used in such situation.
674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is just to complicated for the average person to use.. on: April 12, 2015, 07:40:16 PM
Bitcoin is currently for the "at least slightly above average" person.  

Look how long it is taking to convert the average person to the metric system.

Sure, In the 80s and the early 90s only people slightly above average used computers. All people cannot be trendsetters and innovators or the word would lose its meaning.

No idea how long that is, I've been born to the metric system Wink
675  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your price speculation for BTC at the end of 2015? on: April 12, 2015, 07:32:34 PM
Wink At the moment the trollers shall laugh at the bulls but mark my words eventually the 59 who believed in bitcoin will laugh Tongue as times change its easy to look back and laugh but when ur stuck in the bearish days its not so easy Tongue

It's really not 59% but 69%. I'd say everyone who voted $300+ was a believer, as it would be a great price for BTC to stabilize at. Only about 30% of voters showed bearish attitude, which is great if you ask me Smiley
It really doesn't matter if it goes to $500, $800 or $1000 as long as it keeps growing. If I were to get a steady $10 a year growth I'd gladly take it over these $100 swings every 6 months.
676  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I have $5,000 to buy equipment and almost free electricity. Where do I start? on: April 12, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
how about trying to mine with your personal computer first so you can familliarize how mining works. i would still recommend trading over mining now

This means he'll have to mine some new altcoins preferably CPU ones, which basically drops 99% of coins out of the equation. It can also mean he won't earn anything as some of these coins are scams or fail to reach a significant market cap.

5 S5 suck a lot of power and someone will notice, 100%. If I were you, I would go either cloud or invest into some PoS coins.

This might be a good idea. Although PoS is not considered "mining" by all it's probably the only way if you can't profit from traditional mining. It's by far better than cloud if you ask me.
677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you would be able to get back in early 2009, what would you do? on: April 11, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
You only need to spend a few thousand dollars early on to be very wealthy in late 2013, and that assumes you give away or lose 1/2 of your coins! I would invest at least $20,000 so I can have plenty of room for fun and sharing.
Yea sharing... It's always easy to share the money you don't have and then you hit a jackpot and turn into a scrooge. Wink
678  Economy / Speculation / Re: Support is holding, they said on: April 11, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
OP is angry because he buy at 1200!  And just selling at SUPPORT!   Grin
He forgot to add that on January 20 some people said we hit the bottom, while trolls kept repeating that single digits were coming.
This is like the circle of life: noob traders sell hoping for lower lows, then come here and start threads like "bitcoin is dying" which can be translated to "I'm all fiat and my orders aren't filling".
2012 they said Bitcoin was dying
2013 they said Bitcoin was dying
2014 they said Bitcoin was dying
2015 ...
679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you would be able to get back in early 2009, what would you do? on: April 11, 2015, 06:54:47 PM
Ok a realistic scenario. I'd take a credit, borrow money from everyone I knew, sold everything I could and put all that money into Bitcoin. I'd also buy some GPUs and start a small mining farm. Then I'd hold it all until April 2013 and dump it all at the top of that big pump just to buy more in the following months. Then I'd probably sell some of it in December and become a millionaire and kept the rest because it can become even bigger.
My investment structure would look like this: live in a trailer or a cabin like a hermit for the next 3-4 years and wait until my coins jump from 0.5USD to 1000USD Cheesy
680  Economy / Services / Re: CoinRoyale Sig Campaign *Earn 0.04 BTC/week promoting the best Bitcoin Casino! on: April 10, 2015, 08:43:27 PM
Signature up and running thanks for having me

OP doesn't say it explicitly but usually only one signature is allowed. And it has to be the first thing shown. Have you asked victorhing if you could use both?
His Coinroyale sig is barely visible. I'm sure having it the way he does is not allowed.
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