I suggest you not to invest in cloud mining because many cloud mining services are nothing but HYIPs.
Anyway, even if they are legit, the ROI takes too long to be reached.
That's the point. If you compare the risk it looks similar to this: holding BTC < trading BTC < hardware mining < cloud mining Pick your poison  |
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Thanks for the replies.
First - this isn't about mining at home, its just informational.
@LuckyBtc - I did see that an AntMiner comes with its own software but then were do you put the wallet info?
Thanks
It looks like this:  You enter the name of the pool and your username (that you choose during registration) and that's it. Your private address is entered in your user's profile. |
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Traders gonna trade hodlers gonna hodl. I like this explanation. Sooner or later bitcoin is going to explode again or die. There's no other outcome.
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First I read about low cloud mining payouts and now pools. The future is not looking bright for ROI hunters  |
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Do you honestly think that because this person answered a question directed to me he is me? What did I even say to be called a shill?
This is getting interesting please go on.
Yes, I do honestly think that you are him/her. There was no question to answer. You went off topic and into ad hominem, kupan787 pointed that out, you replied from another account trying to justify your POV. Happens even to the best puppet masters. You being from the same timezone and speaking the same language as all those other socks is just icing on the cake. I'm sure you are fairly confident that you didn't leave any other breadcrumbs and you can deny your links to those accounts, and that's fine. Keep doing what you're doing and I'm sure you'll slip up again soon. You're barking up the wrong tree. It's 7:40 PM here, maybe this will give you a hint as to what zone I'm in. Poland is in a different one. So now I speak their language too. I must have some hidden talents  For your information this is off topic too. |
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If you want to discuss and debate the merits of ltcgear, point me to the thread, and we can debate. As far as I understand, this thread is to discuss the merits of GAW and hashlets. So you should probably try and stay close to the topic, rather than dropping to ad hominem.
As for your signature - I did not see any LTC signature campaign on our forum.
It means either: 1. You working for LTC trying to promote their stuff. 2. You are fanboy and you think LTC is the best and only one legit cloud mining. 3. You have some kind of deal with LTC to promote them.
I get the impression that your judgement is biased and you can't be trusted. That is all.Login with the wrong account to post that? Either way I'm done with this nonsense. Both of you on ignore. Put me on your ignore list too.... you are annoying me also. Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point. As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence. I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts. You missed the part where you replied from your sock account maku and were linked to all those other socks. I never replied from that account! What the hell are you talking about? It's right here, a few posts up in this quote. I bolded it for you. How is weather in Poland? Hey, any chance you know Panda and bitgeek, rumor has it they're both from Poland too. What a tremendous community of GAW supporters you have down there. Do you honestly think that because this person answered a question directed to me he is me? What did I even say to be called a shill? This is getting interesting please go on. |
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You said "i sill host almost anything" and yet you are looking for something you like. So what it is that you like?
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If you want to discuss and debate the merits of ltcgear, point me to the thread, and we can debate. As far as I understand, this thread is to discuss the merits of GAW and hashlets. So you should probably try and stay close to the topic, rather than dropping to ad hominem.
As for your signature - I did not see any LTC signature campaign on our forum. It means either: 1. You working for LTC trying to promote their stuff. 2. You are fanboy and you think LTC is the best and only one legit cloud mining. 3. You have some kind of deal with LTC to promote them. I get the impression that your judgement is biased and you can't be trusted. That is all. Login with the wrong account to post that? Either way I'm done with this nonsense. Both of you on ignore. Put me on your ignore list too.... you are annoying me also. Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point. As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence. I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts. You missed the part where you replied from your sock account maku and were linked to all those other socks. I never replied from that account! What the hell are you talking about? |
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If you want to discuss and debate the merits of ltcgear, point me to the thread, and we can debate. As far as I understand, this thread is to discuss the merits of GAW and hashlets. So you should probably try and stay close to the topic, rather than dropping to ad hominem.
As for your signature - I did not see any LTC signature campaign on our forum. It means either: 1. You working for LTC trying to promote their stuff. 2. You are fanboy and you think LTC is the best and only one legit cloud mining. 3. You have some kind of deal with LTC to promote them. I get the impression that your judgement is biased and you can't be trusted. That is all. Login with the wrong account to post that? Either way I'm done with this nonsense. Both of you on ignore. Put me on your ignore list too.... you are annoying me also. Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point. As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence. I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts. |
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Not sure I follow. Are you saying because I feel one cloud mining service is possibly a ponzi, I should feel that way about all of them? How exactly do you feel I'm being a hypocrite? I've seen this tactics being used in some other threads. You and your friends are jumping from one thread to another to instigate and promote your site which is as sketchy as the rest of them. |
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You can't call it a cure and the CDC resents Naturopathic medicine! So it's not a cure. Ok, what's the recovery rate then? On how many patients was it tested? |
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Lastly, at the risk of receiving another 24hr deadline/warning from Josh for no legitimate or lawful reason, I submit the MtGAW reference be migrated over to a kinder/gentler name while the truth of his business's actions continues to slowly make its way to the forefront of this pre-ICO environment. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you GAWGate (Law and Order dum-dum-dum theme heard in the distance).  A Texas man was arrested Thursday and charged with fostering a bitcoin-related Ponzi scheme, in what is the first securities fraud case involving the crypto currency ever lodged by US prosecutors.
Prosecutors said the defendant, Trendon Shavers, is accused [PDF] of promising investors "absurdly high interest" in exchange for turning over their bitcoin to him. Investors were falsely promised that their bitcoin was recoverable at any time, the authorities said.
Not that this directly ties into GAW, but it does show the feds are watching this space... Then you shouldn't forget to inform the cloud mining you have in your signature  |
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no trial ?
Wouldn't that favour the minute men? |
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;P perhaps you would sell your soul to the devil if he will pay in bitcoins...
<face palm>
Sure, it all depends on how much he's willing to pay. |
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I try not to eat junk food and often prepare the meals myself. I also drink a lot of water, avoid soda and caffe and work out at home at least once a week.
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Interesting that the owner of such a big mining facility is so inactive on BitcoinTalk. Doesn't surprise me at all. He could be busy with other work, active on another forum - in other words - has a life outside of here. Is there any other good forum for bitcoin mining discussion ? There are some ocasional posts on reddit and some pools have their own forums, but this one is the largest. |
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Anyway, to get back to the topic at hand (no pun intended) and away from the creepiness.
After watching the video, it really does seem like Josh believes this crap. So I guess ego, arrogance, and ignorance seem more likely to me at this point versus pure bottom-sucking thievery. Not that intention makes money any less lost in an investment.
I'm likely in the minority here, but I don't believe, for one second, Josh is out to scam people. I think he DOES believe in this wholeheartedly and may not understand what he's getting into. I also don't subscribe to the idea that he's doing it to get rich and will ditch first chance. The guy has already created and sold a telecom company and was driving a Ferrari 458 Italia before the Gen A asics (where they *really* made money) were for sale. But who knows. I don't. On a related note, the new GAW_GM guy is really kicking ass on open tickets. My previous payout issue (.008 BTC only) took more than 3 weeks to resolve. He opened a thread last night to get people to post their tickets for immediate resolution and I opened a ticket for a .035 BTC payout issue and it was resolved by today. He has another thread open as well tonight. If they can keep this up, they may be able to regain some credibility in the customer service arena. Edit to add a little more creepiness: I'd want Amber to wear her glasses to bed. Ok, sorry. I'm done. Had to get it out of my system here or I'd be banned "over there." You guys are hillarious. I hope Amber never finds this thread. Josh could have gone the easy way of selling and hosting hardware. If it makes you money keep at it, why change the company's trade from selling to hosting to cloud mining and finally to what? Minting and pumping? If I were him I'd just sign up partnerships with all the non scammy hardware suppliers and continue being the largest reseller in the States. |
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