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661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? on: July 20, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
Why? Because the Earth is in fact flat.

Cool! All hail Terry Pratchett Smiley! Can someone tell me where can I find the Rim on Travelrepublic or on booking.com? Some reviews about the best hotels there would be also useful Smiley.

Yeah, must be because of Sir Terry's passing.

So, when's the expedition to the circumfence starting?  Roll Eyes

But the reason these debates are injected (flat earth, evolution denial, invention of gods), is because the sheeple need to be dumbed down.

And UN logo is just a projection. One of many possible. People should really start learning about such stuff in school.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection

Specifically this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection#Azimuthal_.28projections_onto_a_plane.29
662  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 20, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
The Donetsk Republican Army pulled over 40 tanks and 80 armed transports from the front line, and are awaiting that Kiev should do likewise. LAND has already completed the retraction process:
http://news.rambler.ru/world/30813824/?track=news_othernews

While OCSE does not want to count this movement of armoured vehicles away from the border for retraction, lacking specific details:
http://ria.ru/world/20150720/1138704608.html

Ukrainians want to conduct artillery exercises near Mariupol:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/20/n_7392361.shtml

Will it be exercises or "exercises"?

18 NATO countries participate in joint manoeuvres in Lvov oblast:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2130944

Didn't know Ukraine was in NATO...  Roll Eyes

Before that (last week) NATO paid visit to Moldova. Just in case, so that Moldovans don't forget who their masters are...
663  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 18, 2015, 06:00:52 PM
DNR one-sidedly pulls back heavy weapons from the front line. Kiev and West don't comment.

Well, USA does the opposite. A new batch of military hardware was just delivered to Ukraine.

LNR will conduct elections of the 1st of November. International observers are welcome.
http://ria.ru/world/20150718/1135772353.html
But would the West want to do anything with democracy?

After all, the West is not that happy with freedom of speech and does everything to block it.
Kiseljov's (the Russian journalist and host of the program "News of the Week", who is under US/EU sanctions for journalism) account on Facebook was banned after 3 hours of its existence, while a number of fake "Kiseljov" accounts, pretending to be from him keep on functioning:
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2642655&cid=7

664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: July 17, 2015, 03:45:58 PM
Today marks 1 year since MH-17 shoot down. The West continues to play dumb, trying mightily to stall investigation and erase the event from people's memory.

Prosecutor General's Office of DNR marked the day by publishing documents, related to the investigation. Most of the documents comprise protocols/transcripts of witness questioning:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/17/n_7386105.shtml
One citizen reported about sounds, similar to shots shortly before the disaster. Another mentions sound of a jet engine right after the liner fell. Almost all witness testimonials coincide, indicating presence of another airplane in the vicinity.
665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 17, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
The following is highly indicative and fateful. It really shows who's who, and there all kinds of excrements tend to float up.

Daughter of Egor Gaidar - the "reformer" who during the Wild 90's facilitated the wholesale looting and destruction of Russian economy - Maria Gaidar, is now vice-governor of Odessa county. Her credentials: just like her mentor - Saakashvili, who appointed her - studied at a Western university - Harvard, which turned her into a perfect Manchurian Candidate.

She now applied for Ukrainian citizenship.

http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/17/n_7385749.shtml
666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 15, 2015, 06:21:16 PM
Right Sector are already threatening Poroshenko with extermination, saying that he'll not be able to flee the country:
http://ria.ru/world/20150715/1130129694.html

They can kill each other off, for all I care. But the rest should be tried at an International Tribunal!

I don't know if the following "passionate" speech of Poroshenko of what expects "them as in Donbass" was ever translated to English and aired in Western MSM. Here's my approximate translation, Balthazar can probably verify and correct it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3480

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We'll have work, they won't.
We'll have pensions, they won't.
We'll have social support(?) of people, pensioners, children, they won't [here Poroshenko stammers having trouble with Ukrainian]
Our children will go to school and to kindergartens, and theirs will be sitting in basements.
And thus and only thus will we win this whole war.

The above alone should be enough to put Poroshenko behind bars!

During the Ukro-Nazi operation against Donbass, hundreds of schools and kindergartens have been erased from the face of the earth, tens of hospitals, and many thousands of houses have been destroyed by artillery fire
667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: July 15, 2015, 06:04:56 PM
Russian Prosecutor General's office published a report, which says that MH-17 was shot down by and air-to-air missile of a non-Russian make. They also say that they know the make of that rocket:
http://tass.ru/politika/2122685

While CNN published a partial "official" report, which it obtained through its channels (read: was given to publish by the CIA), where the plane was shot down from the ground from the resistance-controlled territory:
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/07/15/boeing1/

By that theory of CNN's falls apart already, as DNR say they didn't have control over Grabovo back then, when the the rocket was allegedly launched from there:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/15/n_7379761.shtml

668  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What Assets Did Greece Just Hand Over To Europe: "Airports, Airplanes..." on: July 15, 2015, 05:59:46 PM
Islands!!! They actually go for what Merkel wanted from them several years ago. They plan to sell some of the islands to cover the debt!!!

So far tens of uninhabited islands (and let's not forget their territorial waters) have been put on sale.

http://russian.rt.com/article/103567
669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: July 15, 2015, 05:57:29 PM
There was some disturbance in Crimea today: two of the journalists of TV channel "Zvezda" were held hostage by armed private security of the former minister of defence of Ukraine Lebedev, when the journalists were filming material about pulling down of the fences, illegally raise around Crimean beeches:
http://russian.rt.com/article/103559?%D0%BE



On a different note. A few days ago, Starikov voiced an interesting idea:

People of Eastern Germany and Western Germany are both German people. They were divided into two different countries by artificial process, byt no one would deny that they remained a one people. Now, when USSR facilitated reunification of Germany, it was celebrated. Enter 2014. The population of Crimea in particular and Ukraine in general (at least the central and Eastern parts), are by and large Russians. They were divided into two different countries by artificial processes. Yet, when Russian people reunited, it was ment with hostility from the selfsame Germany, which owes its own reunification to Russians.
670  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Empire -- RSFSR under USSR -- Russian Federation on: July 15, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
The famous Cimean Prosecutor General, Natalia Poklonskaja characterises the abdication of Nikolai II as illegitimate, saying that the paper was signed by a pencil and was lacking all the required legal procedures and forms:

http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/15/n_7379549.shtml?%D0%B2
671  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: July 14, 2015, 06:49:07 PM
A good article by Paul Craig Roberts explaining the official Washington policy:

Pentagon Concludes America Not Safe Unless It Conquers The World — Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/07/10/pentagon-concludes-america-safe-unless-conquers-world-paul-craig-roberts-3/

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The Pentagon has released its “National Military Strategy of the United States of America 2015,” June 2015. http://news.usni.org/2015/07/02/document-2015-u-s-national-military-strategy
The document announces a shift in focus from terrorists to “state actors” that “are challenging international norms.” It is important to understand what these words mean. Governments that challenge international norms are sovereign countries that pursue policies independently of Washington’s policies. These “revisionist states” are threats, not because they plan to attack the US, which the Pentagon admits neither Russia nor China intend, but because they are independent. In other words, the norm is dependence on Washington.

Be sure to grasp the point: The threat is the existence of sovereign states, whose independence of action makes them “revisionist states.” In other words, their independence is out of step with the neoconservative Uni-power doctrine that declares independence to be the right of Washington alone. Washington’s History-given hegemony precludes any other country being independent in its actions.

...

In the Pentagon document, Russia is under fire for not acting “in accordance with international norms,” which means Russia is not following Washington’s leadership.

In other words, this is a bullshit report written by neocons in order to foment war with Russia.

Nothing else can be said about the Pentagon report, which justifies war and more war. Without war and conquests, Americans are not safe.

...

This report tells us that war with Russia is our future unless Russia agrees to become a vassal state like every country in Europe, and Canada, Australia, Ukraine, and Japan. Otherwise, the neoconservatives have decided that it is impossible for Americans to tolerate living with a country that makes decisions independently of Washington. If American cannot be The Uni-Power dictating to the world, better that we are all dead. At least that will show the Russians
672  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 14, 2015, 01:29:38 PM
I wonder if you are repeating one of those myths that were propagated in Finland after Lenin gave it independence and prior to it being used as a pawn by Germany. Because the period that you are talking about is when Finland had its own Senate and its own currency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Finland

Hmm, I see your point, but through a different source (I'm largely distrustful of Wikipedia when it comes to politically-charged topics).

I went to an English-language source from 1899 which seems to be fairly objective in describing the issue:

http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/25th-march-1899/5/the-russification-of-finland

And reading that article, only 18 years before the colour revolutions of 1917, I can see indicators to some internal power struggle within Russia, and possibly, what you'd call today NGOs - that day elites wishing more power for themselves, and less for the Czar, setting up a situation that would lead to unrest or that can be used to create unrest.
673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: poor oppressed negroes want removal of Confederate generals from Stone Mountain on: July 14, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
While I do not agree with the first sentence in your post (comparing ANY human to ANY animal leads to a very slippery slope down to genocide), I see a certain point that those black anti-Confederate protesters should have a better grasp of their own history.

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/04/13/power-lies/

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The Lincoln Memorial was built not because Lincoln “freed the slaves,” but because Lincoln saved the empire. As the Savior of the Empire, had Lincoln not been assassinated, he could have become emperor for life.

As Professor Thomas DiLorenzo writes: “Lincoln spent his entire political career attempting to use the powers of the state for the benefit of the moneyed corporate elite (the ‘one-percenters’ of his day), first in Illinois, and then in the North in general, through protectionist tariffs, corporate welfare for road, canal, and railroad corporations, and a national bank controlled by politicians like himself to fund it all.”

Lincoln was a man of empire. As soon as the South was conquered, ravaged, and looted, his collection of war criminal generals, such as Sherman and Sheridan, set about exterminating the Plains Indians in one of the worst acts of genocide in human history. Even today Israeli Zionists point to Washington’s extermination of the Plains Indians as the model for Israel’s theft of Palestine.

...

The War of Northern Aggression was about tariffs and northern economic imperialism. The North was protectionist. The South was free trade. The North wanted to finance its economic development by forcing the South to pay higher prices for manufactured goods. The North passed the Morrill Tariff which more than doubled the tariff rate to 32.6% and provided for a further hike to 47%. The tariff diverted the South’s profits on its agricultural exports to the coffers of Northern industrialists and manufacturers. The tariff was designed to redirect the South’s expenditures on manufactured goods from England to the higher cost goods produced in the North.

This is why the South left the union, a right of self-determination under the Constitution.

The purpose of Lincoln’s war was to save the empire, not to abolish slavery. In his first inaugural address Lincoln “made an ironclad defense of slavery.”

And that's why all memories of the Confederation and the constitutional right to secession and self-determination are attempted erased now within the USA, just like USA is violating these same rights across the globe.
674  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: July 14, 2015, 10:15:58 AM
Revolution Mk.II

Customary fighting in Rada, "because of a split on Right Sector":
http://lifenews.ru/news/157331

Yarosh will lose his immunity. (Well, an outspoken Nazi should not have had any immunity in the first place, but  Canada and USA ruled otherwise):
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/14/n_7374773.shtml

USA patted Yatsenjuk on the head and "is giving him hight praise for the reforms in Ukraine"! ("Reforms" obviously means "use all the money to kill the Russian population of Donbass"):
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2767826

And there were two explosions in Lvov, connected with shootings in Mukachevo:
http://ria.ru/world/20150714/1127625337.html
675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine - The Odessa Massacre - What Really Happened on: July 14, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
The Nazis, who burnt alive and shot the anti-maidan protesters in the Kulikovo Field / Odessa Trade Union Building massacre.
Yesterday, a court hearing was supposed to take place. It was disrupted in the most grotesque way:

The buddies of the Nazis stormed the court room, spiting at the relatives of those who died, screaming obscenities and threats. The judge then resigned and the hearing is postponed. Again. Just like it's been for the last 2 months.

One of the things those imported to Odessa Ukro-Nazis were screaming, was that all those relatives should just pack and go to Russia.
Well, seeing as who lived in Odessa the longest, and seeing that Odessa didn't fully surrender to the Nazis in the 1940s, Odessites, may well go to Russia, but just like with their Crimean countrymen, they'll pack their historic land and take it with with them too.
676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Child kidnapping by the Norwegian State on: July 14, 2015, 09:59:23 AM
According to Oscar's grandmother, who gave an interview to local Pskov newspaper, Norway may return Oscar (now 6, 5 when he was kidnapped by Norway) to his family (and at the same time, return the family to Oscar) towards the end of this months.

http://informpskov.ru/news/182162.html
677  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 14, 2015, 09:57:03 AM
It's funny but Grand Duchy of Finland had greater sovereignty as part of Russian Empire than modern Republic of Finland within the EU.

True for the most part.
Except towards the end, when Russia started to push more
panslavic policy towards Finland than before.

I wonder if you are repeating one of those myths that were propagated in Finland after Lenin gave it independence and prior to it being used as a pawn by Germany. Because the period that you are talking about is when Finland had its own Senate and its own currency. Once I mentioned Lenin - his act was an act of "thank you" to Finns for giving him shelter from prosecution of the Russian authorities for his state-destructive activities. Much like Khodorkivskij/Gusinskij is finding shelter in Germany and GB today. If Finland wasn't a de-facto independent state, it would not have been able to keep Lenin from the Russian Empire's reach.
678  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is a mini ICE AGE on the way? Scientists warn the sun will 'go to sleep' on: July 13, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
Global warming? Yeah, right.

I'll just drop the following film in here:

The Great Global Warming Swindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52Mx0_8YEtg

Very enlightening, both with solid scientific data, and historic background of where this "global warming"  movement started and how it got nurtured politically. And yes, the Sun is the major driving force for climate on Earth, through so many - often not very obvious - ways.
679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Empire -- RSFSR under USSR -- Russian Federation on: July 13, 2015, 11:23:31 AM
A good short article by Lada Ray on the 1917 coups in Russia, answering some earlier points in this thead:

Was 1917 Russian Revolution an Early Maidan? Russian Analyst Nikolay Starikov on EU, Armenia Maidan and Greece
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/12/was-1917-russian-revolution-an-early-maidan-russian-analyst-nikolay-starikov-on-armenia-maidan-and-greece

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However, the real color revolution was the February 1917 coup/revolution that unseated Nikolay II and ended the Russian monarchy. Without those Russian oligarchs and Tsar’s relatives who came out wearing red bands in February, plotting to unseat Nikolay II, the later Bolshevik Revolution wouldn’t have happened. Without the direct British agent Kerensky (proven fact Kerensky himself brags about in his memoirs) and his Temporary Government (Vremennoe Previtelstvo) of oligarchs that destroyed what was left of the country’s infrastructure in the short several months between March and October, the Bolshevik revolution wouldn’t have happened either.

The 1917 Russian Empire situation looked a lot like Ukraine’s today, in other words, total madness – albeit on an incomparably larger scale. The Bolshevik Revolution of November 7, 1917 capitalized on the ensuing mayhem and went much beyond the color revolution goals, in fact breaking out of the mold and building an alternative system to rival the West.

But yes, February and November 1917 were in fact 2 parts of one mega-coup.
680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 13, 2015, 11:14:08 AM
Several materials from Ukraine, Odessa and Donbass in yesterday's edition of the "News of the Week" with Kisiljov (a journalist, who is under Western sanctions for journalism)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik

Heads of DNR address UN to start an international tribunal to try the Kiev coup authorities for their crimes against humanity. As you all know, Kiev passed a law, saying that human rights don't apply to Donbass and people there have no Constitutional rights. The heaps of evidence of Kiev's crimes are mounting - there is a thick binder for EACH DAY of the past year, containing testimonials and documents:

Watch below. There are some strong imagery there. Some parallels to a similar genocide in Rwanda and the trials of the tops from that country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3607

An interview with a human rights activist explaining the suffering the "POWs" underwent in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3852



And aside. Facebook bans people and censors posts, containing the word "hohol" (a non-derisive term for Ukrainians, also meaning crest and a certain hairstyle.) Many people have surname Hohlov, there is a square, called Hohlovskaja, Pushkin mentions "hohol" in his poems. Interestingly, Facebook allows "moskal" and "kacap" - derisive terms used by Ukrainians for Russians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=4436



From Odessa. Saakashvili is on the official payroll of Washington, getting a salary of $198000:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=2521



His primary goals are threefold: 1) Sell three Odessa ports to Americans on the cheap, ensuring a NATO base there (something USA failed to do in Sevastopol, so they targeted another Russian city); 2) Reignite the conflict in Pridniestrovie; 3) Repress any mutiny in Odessa.

Jeffry Piett, US ambassador to Ukraine, announced about it last Monday, from a lawn in Odessa, saying that Odeassa will become a "laboratory for the USA"

Another Georgian, now a citizen of Ukraine, Guladze is working on creation of National Police in Ukraine. Guladze is accused in Georgia of violations of human rights and of use of violence against a peaceful demonstration - something that USA usually screech about, when it suits them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3131

All Ukrainian soldiers must learn and speak English! Why? Because American generals drill them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=3278

At least some Odessites are protesting with the typical Odessan humour. Just check out the following frame:





And a report about USAid/Soros disruptive NGOs undermining Russia, and how "Maidans" are organised:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=4661

A todo list (images from a French 2007 documentary "Revolution.com or USA-  conquering of the East"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzhNDdMulik&feature=player_detailpage#t=5182


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