Well we know when he's going to be there. But if a bunch of people show up then AMT will be all scared and won't show anything because it's scary.

my guess is AMT doesn't check this thread again for two weeks so phin never gets the ok. I'd go anyway.

Pick the biggest fish in the thread, quite possibly their biggest detrator if you don't count clenel, l bait him knowing that if he can confirm the legions will follow.

Put at BTC20 bounty (PR/viral marketing) on the line. If they can show it off they come out looking clean, but still have to work on the customer relations.

If it sells 2 1.2 th miners in the process they've made back that bounty/Marketing money. If they sell a 3.2 Th then they are in the green.

It could be the most brilliant thing I've seen them do. But are they really that smart? They way they've handled their business otherwise makes me skeptical.

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

8PM do it Phin! Be a true hero member!

Make them pay for the pineapple.

I say go Phin.


Either they actually drop everything and meet you and then we have our answer, or they ignore you like anyone else who's tried to show up (including postal carriers ;-) ) And then we can put it all to bed that they are finally completely and utterly full of shit.

Also if you are willing to give out 20 BTC for his appearance why not just go ahead and send me 10btc as a refund for my miner as I paid you via check $5759. it even saves you $30 than if you had to refund usd.

Wait that would be an over payment of $20 bucks sorry, re-figure accordingly.

He's stated more then once that was his father's obit. Also that was four years ago.

See they aren't late shipping they still have two more years. We were way off guys.

They've already vanished in a puff of smoke. They'll come back in two weeks to let us know that shipping will be starting the next week.

I hear the cream filling is the best.

Why not use this time updating us by posting a few pictures. Go take a picture in front of saxby's so at least people will shut about about being in bulgaria. Why not take a picture of the cases, or anything really.

Why not use the time here to post what you posted earlier about when you plan to ship on your news section. I'd suggest heading to the post office to retrieve my certified letter, but they are closed now.

Do something constructive if you think your time here is spent fighting trolls. Give the guy who tried to visit you three weeks ago a call and invite him over to meet with someone, he's close. He's military, certainly you would hope that would instill some confidence in your customer base. Snap a few pictures or a video with him pop it up on the site and show the world. Show what you've been up to because if you thought this was a it'll be fixed tomorrow problem then surely you carried on with the other operations of your business.

 

You are aware they didn't call for an assassination, right? They didn't say dead or alive. They didn't say bring his body. Are you some sort of special kind of idiot?

I'm not sure Phin wouldn't just go there on his own, but phin I'll come with ya, we'll collect the bounty all I ask is for it to pay for my flight and then we can give the rest to the charity organization.

OR get a hold  the Merry Miners guy since he lives close. Just get some pics while you are there.

Speaking of communicating with the community why hasn't the certified mail I sent you been picked up from the post office?

As a private company I don't think you can find it unless they give it to you or doing some sort of paid search.

Public company's use it on their different filings.

I paid with a cashiers check from my bank issued in AMTs name. I sent it so I would have a tracking number. I have the date it arrived and who signed for it. It says it was delivered to the front desk / receptionist

I sent the request by both email and certified mail.

There has been no response for my request for refund and it doesn't appear that Jim has been to the post office to pick up the letter.

On the bitmine page announcing amt as us distributor:

"Customers from the US can finally purchase miners based on the industry leading CoinCraft A1 technology directly from AMT, a local manufacturer of Bitcoin miners. Additionally, AMT will be selling bare A1 chips in smaller breakouts, just check out their website for the available products.

It doesn't say anything thing there about ordering a Bitmine unit from AMT just that they will be getting access to the Coincraft A1 Technology, and that it would be coming directly from AMT.  Who manufacture locally.

If you paid for the 520  GH unit based on the 28nm chip then it looks like it was coming from AMT the whole time, I don't even see a 520 gh option for the desk which goes up in increments of 200gh per board.

Unless at the time bitmine was offering some other 28 nm products no longer listed, which doesn't really make sense because they didn't have the chips yet.

It's not like AMT was ordering our stuff directly from bitmine. They ordered the chips only. I e-mailed them some time ago and they weren't supplying them with the PCBs that's why they have manufacturers here in the states working on the boards (supposedly) Though there was at least one backplane picture taken on the 21st of Feb in PA at IMET http://www.imetcorporation.com/ about 1/2 hour from the AMT office. Now it looks like AMT is just piggy backing off of bitmine's design and manufacturing it here. sO until bitmine figures it's shit out then AMT won't either un less they start being proactive rather than reactive.

Someone said they confirmed boards being made at PNC but I don't remember who. It was in the thread. IMET never got back to me after I talked to a person there. Likely because they had a contract. he case might be different now if someone calls and says there are lawsuits being filed and we are just asking for cooperation.

IF this is correct it actually makes it easier to go after him, he shows up on a multitude of websites, he's got a video with the guy from bitmine.ch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM
specifically claiming to be with AMT.

So if he's a one man operation, working under the guise of a corporation then he falls subject to the legal premise of piercing the corporate veil which makes all of his personal funds available to those suing him as he was running AMT as an alter ego.  Then you don't have to worry about him hiding money personally from a "corporate account"

Also he does a really good impression of a lady on the phone if he's a one man operation. Too good if you ask me.

Unique Software Development is not the same as the national academy  for software development.

Unique Software Development
 9330 Lyndon B Johnson Freeway
         Suite 900
         Dallas, TX 75243

Not PA or Bulgaria all I'm seeing here is to much stretching.

I'd need something way more concrete to connect the two.

Yeah this is part of a larger business.

We had a similar one back home where they would sell these same types of services and it was well before AMT even existed.

You are seeing the same listings all over america because they recruit using the same script. You open your own branch essentially as an independent business owner. It's a multi-level marketing company just dealing in services instead of products.

It's possible one or both of them an IBO with this group but they would have nothing to do with the larger management, and what is often the case with these type of businesses you get a website pre-made for you by the larger entity. So they would all have a website likely sourced from the same place which appears to be Unique Software Development, LLC.

Though this company looks to deal in products and services.  ( Edit: my bad it looks like they are referring to energy delivery as a products , rather than a service.)

Edit: Unique Software Development, LLC specializes in assembling and managing dedicated teams of highly skilled technical professionals to develop complete applications or augment your in-house resources.

With our corporate headquarters in Dallas, TX and software development centers in Karachi, Pakistan, Brasov, Romania and Madrid, Spain - we offer you the convenience and security of working with a reliable U.S. corporation plus all the benefits of a highly affordable offshore development team.


This full cycled distributors just appears to be a client of  Unique Software Development, LLC.

It's not as simple as you make it. This business is mostly a preorder market. They don't have to claim it was a vision to develop with your money. If there is a delay they are required to inform you of it though. At the time  I ordered it was obvious they were taking pre orders for batches of unfinished product like most of the other miner sites working with new chip technology. If you looked on bitmines site or on AMTs site (if they didn't back date it like they did in Feb) they they talk about tape out which means the chips weren't even ready for the product. That alone is going to play in their favor. Plus the terms of their sale make reference to delays especially if it is due to their suppliers, which would have been the case for your shipment because the chip manufacturer didn't deliver on time. So their belief that the manufacture could keep their timetable does not equal fraud.

How did they use it to pressure you? Just curious, because they never once called me to solicit a payment maybe it was different for you. Plus I had the ability to pay via bitcoin, wire or check. I chose check of my own free will without any pressure

They as a business are able to choose which forms of payment they will accept. They apparently accept payments for their smaller units (or so they say) via credit card probably because they had merch or supplies on hand. With credit cards you are going to have to deal with a ton of chargebacks which would be a pain in the ass with a pre-order product so they didn't accept them for the 1.2th miner.

You've not lost 10 bitcoins. You can't count what you would have made as a loss as any amount you thought you would have got  was purely speculation because you had no control over how slow or fast that difficulty was going to raise. Or I should say by how much not how quickly.

They haven't followed federal regulations, but again that doesn't prove there is a fraudulent scheme, that would require proof that they didn't intend to ever assemble, never bought parts, or didn't intend to ever ship the product.

You clicked that you read the terms, just like everyone else so like everyone else that is on you.

Where are you seeing the connection to josh or harrison at here?

I'm just not seeing it,if you can point me in the right direction.