Very disturbing !!! BTW: I forgot to mention that rat4 sold off a ton of his BC. I do not even see SoepKip in the top 1000 anymore, did he sell everything? The top addresses with 3 million BC started deflating after the split. maarx now have more BC than the rest of the dev team. After all this amazing news, you would think they would be increasing their holdings but instead they are selling off? I thought the captain is suppose to go down with the ship? Do you see the writing on the wall now or do you still think this dev team should be trusted?
The devs and some of the community members underestimated my importance to the whole scheme of things. People never had confidence in the dev team, they had confidence in my ability to rally the community and make this project take off. By trying to "get rid of me", they killed the coin because the largest holders were supporting me.
Time to bite. Soepkip: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/B96Ma83Sbxq5HR6UsPtbGapi9s5ZRHjwNorat4: http://blocks.blackcoin.pw/address/B8gZqgY4r2RoEdqYk3QsAqFckyf9pRHN6iAs you can see. The information IconicExpert used in his comment is incorrect. I deleted my post right after Ziploc pointed out the script is not working correctly. I was using info provided by your script: http://maarx.nl/maarx.nl/blackcoin/distribution/Maybe it is time to fix it  |
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very sad but true..
Iconic what do you intend to do with WallStreet Event ?
did you took your decision ?
I will make an announcement this Thursday about the Wall Street event and what I am planning for the future. I was going to make an announcement this past Friday but I decided to cancel it because I wanted to talk with a few people first behind the scenes. So this Thursday at 11AM EST I will be announcing some exciting news, and I believe the people who have supported my efforts in the past will be very happy. |
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Reading this thread this morning was entertaining to say the least. Here are my replies.I think the problem with IE is that while he seems to know a little about marketing, 90% of his posts are either personal insults, threats or very intricate conspiracy theories with no basis. Even if he managed to contribute quite a bit to the coins PR side, he would scare away most serious investors.
I guess you and I are cut from the same cloth because 95% of your posts are attacks against me. And my conspiracy theories as you call them are fact, people just choose to ignore them because of greed and blind faith.He's not going to take over the coin. The developer, 99% of the community and the core team are not on his side. I hope he realizes this as soon as possible and either moves to a project of his own, or just does what he does best and work on PR without the massive FUD.
I am not interested in taking over BlackCoin, BlackCoin is slowly being dumped by investors. You and many others do not realize people could give two shits how "crazy" or "emotional" a person gets as long as they know their sh!t and produce. The most brilliant people are also the most "eccentric", Steve Jobs was a very good example of this. Everyone who is not blinded by stupidity knows that we would not be trading where we are at if it wasn't for me. It is time to finally accept it. That is not my ego speaking, it is not delusional thinking, it is fact. Investors do not have faith in this team and they are slowly cashing out. You and a few others think my "skill" is only PR, no it is just one of my skills. Every time I did a PR event the price increased significantly and that can be verified by looking at the old posts and compare the posts with the trade history. So what? Anyone can just recreate what I did, right? Can they? Lately some very exciting news has been coming out about BlackCoin. BlackCoin has been written about twice by CoinDesk within several days and the price is slowly deflating. Why? What has changed? The dev team is still the same and the foundation just hired a new PR firm, but for some reason BlackCoin just can't get moving again...But what is more hilarious is that other dev teams have been actively trying to recruit me since the "split". As I have stated numerous times people are watching and they know who did what.Thanks, I've read most of it. As I said I think he's pretty good at the PR side of things, but whatever good he does on the PR side he counteracts by a huge amount with his other posts. I hope he'll see that he does not come across as a likeable guy online. I can't speak for his offline behaviour, they can sometimes be quite different, but I hope he'll just realize this and try to keep it professional from now on.
I am not here to be likable. We are not going to out for a beer and become friends. I am here to do a job and that is it.To IE: Sorry if I've insulted you in the past. You're obviously under a massive amount of stress and I hope you consider taking a few days off to cool down and then come back with a more positive outlook.
LOL..this has been the narrative over the past week. I am not even close to being under stress. Up until last week I was having the most fun since the early 2000s when everyone was making money from shareware downloads. Spend 5 minutes with me offline and you would know I am far from stressed. I am a native New Yorker, we eat stress for breakfast. To live in the Tri-State area and be successful you have to be able to work under pressure. However, what everyone did whiteness is me getting occasionally annoyed for various reasons.Cards look real good and well executed Iconic. From the looks of it, you're a perfectionist and will not send out a unfinished product that would be a poor reflection of you. I wish I bought the Limited Edition version, these can be very valuable in time.
Can't wait to get my card so I can do some awesome photography for the our BC Instagram (@BlackCoinOfficial)
Thank you. I take pride in my work and projects. Who are you to say what effect rat4 will have on BC or what Soepkip will do in the future? Stop bashing everyone and acting like you are god and everyone is stupid. You come off as bitter.
Since you are for some reason convinced that BC needs a strong experienced team or it will fail (lol), why don't you sell your holdings and stop complaining about everything? You act like you are a PR genius but you've caused more damage to the reputation of BC than anyone imo.
Please shut up. I can respect the people who have been consistent with their criticism towards me. You on the other hand are just a flip flopper that just goes with the wind. If everyone is praising my efforts you are there with the pom poms, and if everyone is criticizing me you are there with the pitchfork. You definitely picked an appropriate screen name.
What makes it worse you have no clue WTF you are babbling about. NO serious investor whether it is stocks or crypto cares about the developer. The developer is meaningless in the eyes of an investor. I have never heard someone say "I need to invest another 30 BTC in ABC coin because the developer just added xyz feature". Developers can be replaced easy, they come a dime a dozen. However, investors do care about the team as a whole. In the case of BC rat4 posts once a month in the forum, do you really think he has an effect on BC? Most investors would ask WTF is a rat4? Soepkip and the Foundation are now the face of BC. It doesn't seem investors are too confident about that. And in regards to me damaging the reputation of BC, what ruined the reputation of BC was the constant lying and deceit from the dev team and Foundation. People are now seeing them for who they really are.
And for the record I am slowly liquidating my BC. It will take forever since my goal is not to crash the market, but it seems other investors do not share the same sentiment. I just have a hard time understanding why he seems so unaware about how he come off to others. Interpersonal skills are also very important in management. And consensus building and getting a community to rally to specific causes, while encouraging others and their causes.
These are virtues that are not within his particular skillset.
LOL...I think people see and believe what they want to see. I have managed and lead people my entire adult life. I do not need to have interpersonal skills on a forum, this is not a popularity contest.Your on the money, but IE called these fucking leaches out long time ago and now they are showing their colour.
Shusssh....Do not let them see you agreeing with the crazy conspiracy guy  What is wrong with working on two projects at the same time?
Did you really just ask that?? SMH!! It is called a conflict of interest and everyday it is becoming more apparent that this team and Foundation is a joke. But wait...lets recap for those who have been on vacation. First rat4 helps Cinni with some code, and now Wizfarm aka mctaino is helping Cinni. If they spent more time focusing on BC and less time helping other coins BC would not be trading below 28000IE takes things to heart.
I like him but he is week. he lets you get to him.
All I care about is honesty.
IE does have that weather I like him or not.
He is honest.
that's a lot more then I can say for most people.
LMAO...you are the first person ever in my entire life to describe me as "weak". You do not grow up in one of the toughest neighborhoods in NYC and then become successful by being "weak". Do not mistake my passion for debate as being weak. Nor do not think I let them "get to me". I went back and forth with over one dozen individuals in this forum at the same time and I didn't relent. As much as they tried to "silence" me I kept coming back.do you guys think BC will reach 30000 today?
No...but it will most likely reach 2600 within 24 hours. If the people who claim to be BlackCoin's greatest supporters are helping other coins, then why should investors stay invested in BlackCoin? It seems investors are losing patience and are cashing out at a quicker pace. Investors are starting to realize the truth and are dumping. All it takes is one bag holder to just lose all patience and start dumping into every buy wall just to get out quick.
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Those are news articles written by third parties. There was not an official press release by the team and it should have been. |
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You wrote a lot of things i agree with.
However, i still doubt that those guys are the ones who hold the price down.
In case they are not good in marketing or as you suggest, in anything, how would they be able to manage such a thing? Or do you think they intentionally messed up all the marketing and the multipool delay is also intented? Evil genius?
If you could start a massive rise in price just by stopping the dumping, you could make more profit w/o trying to amass coins with those tiny daytrading margins that are available now... since holding the price down too long can be very very risky if you want to stay in the game - in the end you've got all coins and not a single buyer since everybody lost interest.
If i was forced to bet my money on a scenario, i would still think that there are some guys cashing out slowly (if you watched the last week you will see hardly a single dump below 28502). That takes it's time, but if you want to exit you do not need to care about how this affects other and smaller holders or future investors.
When I revealed the truth the dumping stopped for several hours and then started back up again... Only time will tell... |
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Barabbas has been my strongest critic and he called me Hitler once. I do not agree with half the stuff he writes, but I do not delete his posts because debate is good and I always said that. What I dislike is when people start personally attacking others and use FUD as fact against that person's character.
I can tell you as I am less active and I just mostly observe, I see many people are just "wishing" and "hoping" instead of using their commonsense. Sometimes the answer is right in front of you if you just dare to look.
I have proven myself time and time again as being an honest and on the level guy. I recently posted pics of the makeshift card factory setup in my home, and the people who were posting FUD about the cards have magically vanished. However, not one person said.."hey since Iconic has been honest about everything he promised, why would he lie about the group manipulating the prices"? When I said I have over 2 million coins most people didn't even question if I was lying because they believed it to be true, but I am lying about the manipulation? Why would I lie about something that would surely affect the price of BC and in turn affect my portfolio? What would I have gained by lying about the group?
Sometimes it is hard to face the truth so people lash out at the person delivering the bad news because it is much easier to deny it than accept it. That is life both online and offline.
So what do I think about the future of BC? Well...lets put aside the group manipulation for a second.
Gritt is a ticking time bomb and he will show his true colors soon. The guy tried to manufacture and "give away" his own BlackCoin cards before I got the first batch from the factory. I can spot a snake a mile away and Gritt is a snake.
SoepKip is just waiting until BC gets to a certain level to cash out. Right now he is happy and excited to be doing something important with his life, but eventually he will get bored and once he is faced with over $100,000+ he will cash-out. He wont stick around long after that.
Maarx is a good kid with a future and I respect him for his honesty. He is a stand-up kid in my book, but he is is a bit naive about what is going on behind the scenes. He will probably be the first to leave when the sh!t hits the fan.
rat4 has no clue what is going on. He doesn't understand English very well and he is your typical coder...just focused on the technology. He is not interested in the business end and he will not have any effect on BC either way.
So what is my point? BC cannot succeed with this team... I do not care how many partnerships are established or how supportive the community is, without a strong experienced team BC will eventually fail.
Forget about everything else that happened this week and lets focus on the announcement of naming the PR firm. WTF was that? It has been over two months and these guys haven't learned anything from me. The one major accomplishment for this team and they announced the name of the PR firm in the middle of the week with no press release. They should have announced that they would be announcing the name on xyz date, and had a press releases ready to go live on that date. They raised all that money and you would think they would spend another $600 and make a big deal out of the announcement. I would have made sure the PR firm sent out coordinated press releases that day. Other devs are now using press releases tactics and these guys still do not get it.
I would like to make it clear, what drives me and what drives them are not the same. These poeple think BC will make them rich and they are jsutw aiting for the day to cash-out. Yes I love making money like everyone else and I wasn't here solely for the love of BC. However, I didn't care about making tons of money because that wasn't my motivation. My motivation was getting BC to the #1 spot and in the beginning I sincerely felt it had a chance. I wanted to be part of a community that knocked off the #1 coin. For me that was very exciting and fun. It is no longer fun when you have a team that has no clue WTF they are doing, and a group that is manipulating the price for their own benefit.
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Also why are all the posts where I quote IE saying he has more than 2 million BC getting deleted? All this talk about big wallets so the same rule applies to him. Nothing but hypocrisy in this thread
I delete most of your posts because you are a troll with a fake account. Why would I hide the fact about my coins since I publicly revealed it? Do us all a favor and go post your FUD in the "official" thread. |
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I don't know  So what is your opinion on the state of BC? I was reading the coindesk article about the PR thing, and there is this draft about they're marketing plan, this jumped to my eyes: "Reach: 10,000,000 - 20,000,000" Obviously if they are able to make this reach a reality there is going to be a huge spike, but another obvious thing is that the whales will be ready for lunch... I doubt this reach is a realistic estimation Only time will tell.. |
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Very nice work Iconic, I'm really amazed with your work and dedication. Shame that some people out here don't give you the value you deserve. +1 Thank you... if only one person values my contributions...that is all that matters. |
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But call me imbeciile, if you are NOT a troll, you are obviously a seriously mentally ill and paranoid person with way to much time on their hand and/or internet in the asylum, in both cases i take it for a compliment coming from you.
Just because he might be mentally ill doesn't mean he is wrong.  I was called crazy quiet a few times this week. However, it seems a few people are "borrowing" my crazy ideas. Press releases and USB cards are popping up all over the place. Thank goodness I kept the really cool ideas to myself |
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0:31 - I am busy reading cambogian newspaper.  0:56 - Are you guys fuking Idiots or what? And finaly : 1:13 - My fuhrer, maybe he is working on a new article in the page 20 of a new cambogian newspaper, that nobody ever had about. ROFLI loled as well .. When I first lol at that my post was deleted by a mod hm... why? I don't know So what is your opinion on the state of BC? |
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0:31 - I am busy reading cambogian newspaper. 0:56 - Are you guys fuking Idiots or what? And finaly : 1:13 - My fuhrer, maybe he is working on a new article in the page 20 of a new cambogian newspaper, that nobody ever had about. ROFLI loled as well .. When I first lol at that my post was deleted by a mod |
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Is the Wall st. project still happening? Saw this image on reddit today, and I really think IE is on to something with his BlackCoin girls idea....  Of course Look at the attention one average looking female is getting. Now imagine 50 sexy women all in one place... |
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LA MANO NERA (THE BLACK HAND) AT WORK: Very interesting to follow the trail… it takes you to some places that you had anticipated, of course. Still the corroboration is so blatant that it shocks you a bit. If you check the 20 richest BC wallets as 9:57AM April 27th, 2014. You find that the one in position number 13, has a balance of 703 338.99372117, number 15 has a balance of 609 000.00000000, number 16 has a balance of 603 696.00000000, number 18 has a balance of 550 680.70344934 and number 20 has a balance of 517 042.17227691. A rough total of 3 MILLION BC distributed in 5 wallets. Now fast forward to may 9, 2014, 21:57 utc, just 12 days after, and, of all those millions and all those wallets, you can only find the ones in number 18 and the one on number 20, now located at numbers 123 and 115, respectively and where both together had over one million coins, now they have less than 100k each. The other 3 wallets are nowhere to be seen among the 527 top wallets so they will have less than 14k each if they have anything at all. In clear black and white, those controlling those 5 wallets have dumped, in 12 days, just under 3 million coins or aproximately 900 BTC, north of $400,000. In 12 days. Te saluto don Corleone... Aren't you forgetting something? The conspiracy theory said that they are buying that back with the multipool. 1. The pool doesn't have nowhere near that volume, even if you, as always, ignore the fact that they PAY OUT most of what the pool buys. 2. where do they put what thy buy back? every purchase in a different wallet/address? It might sound strange, but did you ever have the idea that actually someone is selling/dumping to make an exit and move on to the next coin? Selling w/o damaging the price too much can't be done faster. Ok..lets pretend I was wrong, lied, or just crazy. BC had some great news this week and every time it is about to move upwards it is immediately pushed back down. So lets assume it is nothing nefarious and it is just normal exiting. BC is in trouble either way. DarkCoin is about to surpass BC in market cap and new shinny coins are looking more promising. Why should someone buy in at 13 cents a coin when they can invest in another POS for much cheaper and wait until it is pumped? If BC is still trading around 29,000 next week this time then people are going to start look for new places to invest. ( Short attention span syndrome) |
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Nice shoe's ! Prada? LOL...don't know...they are my daughter's. My feet are not that small... |
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These are photos of the packaging and shipping process. As you can see there is a lot of work involved before shipping, and no one goes through this much trouble with no intention of shipping. Also understand that the data needs to be transferred for each card before packaging, and each data transfer takes about 30-40 seconds per card.      
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When I am done eating lunch I am uploading pics of the shipping processing and what were have been up to. People will understand why it is not as simple as just shipping cards.
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IE
please return my donation of 0.1 BTC for the wallstreet project. I told you several times, pmed you and also send a small transaction to prove its me....
get moving.
thx
1. Do not be rude...the get moving comment wasn't necessary. 2. I am focusing on filling orders for the BlackCoin cards. When I am done with that I will focus on donations. Let me make it clear I am not running off with $44.00. Apparently the only way to get a at least an answer from you is to make you angry and so far I did not get rude. But I will adapt accordingly. If 44 bucks is so ridiculous you wouldnt make this administrative fuss - please include a gantt chart and milstones - but simply send it. In the previous thread I am sure you read every two nights the donations were/are converted to dollars. It is not as simple as "sending it". Also, I am not angry and you were rude. Get moving = rude. I feel this way: 3 days no response = rude get moving = call for action again no concrete response = outrageous The first PM from you was May 8th which was yesterday. Lying = outrageous Thank you for accusing me of lying. Here is the message I send 3 days before:  Here is the next one I send as a reminder  Please note how polite they were. You have shown again what kind of person you are. I did not see the first PM, and I apologize for accusing you of lying. I get 30+ PMs a day and sometimes I do miss a few, and that was my mistake. Yesterday I wasn't answering most of my PMs because of focusing on the cards which I stated publicly. |
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IE
please return my donation of 0.1 BTC for the wallstreet project. I told you several times, pmed you and also send a small transaction to prove its me....
get moving.
thx
1. Do not be rude...the get moving comment wasn't necessary. 2. I am focusing on filling orders for the BlackCoin cards. When I am done with that I will focus on donations. Let me make it clear I am not running off with $44.00. Apparently the only way to get a at least an answer from you is to make you angry and so far I did not get rude. But I will adapt accordingly. If 44 bucks is so ridiculous you wouldnt make this administrative fuss - please include a gantt chart and milstones - but simply send it. In the previous thread I am sure you read every two nights the donations were/are converted to dollars. It is not as simple as "sending it". Also, I am not angry and you were rude. Get moving = rude. I feel this way: 3 days no response = rude get moving = call for action again no concrete response = outrageous The first PM from you was May 8th which was yesterday. Lying = outrageous |
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