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681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile on: July 13, 2015, 10:26:40 AM
Independent British journalist Graham Philips, despite the intimidations from his government, continues to report from Donbass.

His latest reports are from the MH-17 crash site and interviews with locals, who witnessed jet fighters before the explosion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-O0LdA2uJ8

According to one report, there were two fighters, one flying from the direction of Saur Mogila (a strategic hight and a memorial from WWII, which Ukro Nazis completely bombed out), while the other climbing just before the airliner exploded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBIOAKpgT0c
682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Veteran F-16 jet runs rings around modern scam crap on: July 12, 2015, 04:11:05 PM
At the same time, the concept of "dogfights" may be pretty much outdated.  Today it's radar contact, arm, lock, engage, fire.

Agree with you there. In modern warfare it's the question of who blinds/disables the opponent's on-board electronics first.
683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 12, 2015, 04:02:21 PM
Speaking about Nazi crap... Right Sector started fighting in the Western Ukraine - near the Trans-Carpathia town of Mukachevo, where they used mortars against police forces, all the while SBU asking Right Sector to put down their weapons nicely, please, be nice guys...
http://ria.ru/world/20150712/1126281216.html

Right Sector now threatens to set up several block posts around Kiev, and in the Western Ukraine, and  send fighters into Kiev itself, using their "reserves which are currently in training" without distupting those that currently murder people in Donbass:
http://ria.ru/world/20150712/1126274549.html

Ukrainian Internal Ministry explained that Right Sector opened lethal fire first:
http://ria.ru/world/20150712/1126287850.html

Meanwhile, some light relief. Ukrainian Consule to Turkey arraived to a sports occasion, wearing a T-shirt depicting Putin with a writing "Politeness is our everything":
http://ria.ru/world/20150712/1126275797.html
684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Calling for the U.S. government to cancel Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit t on: July 12, 2015, 11:10:44 AM
Can the petition be more specific about who those "human rights activists" were? From the experience, howling starts in USA only if some US State.Dep-funded NGO heads are starting to get "inconvenienced" in the countries they are paid to disrupt. In all other cases, human rights activists can just rot for all USA cares.

And by the amount of MSM attention, it looks like the cross-hairs and the attack angle has shifted a bit, targeting BRICS through China. Of maybe USA is just expanding the battle front.
685  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 12, 2015, 10:51:37 AM
The plan is to crash Russia and then divide it into smaller and manageable units without any power and suitable for exploitation by the corporate owners of said maniacs. It´s understandable that morons here and there fall for such pipe dreams. How many lies can you allow yourself to believe before you belong to the lie...

And that plan was in place and hasn't really changed for centuries.

- Before the 1812 campaign against Russia, Napoleon was presented with plans on how to split up Russia, designed by Polish General Sokolnitskij.

- Before the 1941 campaign, Hitler was presented with the draft for plan Barbarossa. (Interestingly, initially Poland aimed to be an ally of Germany and a beneficiary of the division of Russia, though it didn't work out for them again) There we can read:

http://warmech.ru/1941war/40a.html

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Chief of Staff OKW operational management after the relevant changes returned the presented presented to him in December 18, 1940 by the Department of "Defense of the country," the draft of a document "Guidance on specific issues of directive number 21 (version of the plan "Barbarossa")," making a postscript that this project can be reported to Fuhrer after processing in accordance with the following of his position:

    The next war will be not only an armed struggle, but at the same time a struggle between two worldviews. To win this war in an environment where the enemy has a vast territory, it is not enough to break the armed forces, the territory should be divided into several states, led by their own governments, with which we could conclude separate peace treaties.

    The creation of such governments requires a great political skill and well-designed development of common principles.

    Every revolution of large scale brings to life phenomena that can not simply be set aside. Socialist ideas in today's Russia are already impossible to eradicate. These ideas can serve as a basis for the political creation of new states and governments. Jewish-Bolshevik intelligentsia, representing the oppressors of the people, should be removed from the scene. Former bourgeois-aristocratic intelligentsia, even if it still exists, especially among immigrants, should also not be allowed to power. It is not accepted by the Russian people and, moreover, it is hostile towards the German nation. This is particularly noticeable in the former Baltic States. In addition, in no case should we allow the replacement of the Bolshevik state by a nationalistic Russia, which eventually (as evidenced by the history) will once again confront Germany.

    Our task lies in the fact that as soon as possible and with the least expenditure of the military effort, we must create those dependent upon us socialist state.

    This task is so difficult that it cannot be solved by army alone.


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03/30/1941 of ... 11.00. Big meeting with the Fuehrer. An almost 2.5 hour-long speech...

    The struggle between the two ideologies ... The great danger of communism for the future. We should proceed from the principle of soldier partnership. Communists have never been and will never be our friends. It's about the struggle until annihilation. If we do not look at it like that, even if we beat the enemy, after 30 years communist danger will arise again. We conduct this war, not in order to preserve his opponent.

   The future political map of Russia: North Russia belongs to Finland, protectorates in the Baltic States to Ukraine and Belarus.

    The fight against Russia: the destruction of Bolshevik commissars and the Communist intelligentsia. The new states must be socialist, but without its own intelligentsia. It should not be allowed to form a new intelligentsia. It will be enough here with only a primitive socialist intelligentsia. We should fight against the poison of demoralization. This is not a question of Military Justice. Commanders of units must know the purpose of this war. They need to lead in the fight... to keep troops permanently in their hands. He shall give his orders, taking into account the mood of the troops.

    The war is sharply different from the war in the West. In the East cruelty it is good for the future. Commanders have to make sacrifices and to overcome their hesitation ...

We know how the above ended.

Interestingly, 1941 and "Barbarossa" was "only" a military continuation of an assault on Russia that was conducted during the colour revolution and the coup d'etat of 1917, when large parts of Russia were successfully split off. Russia cannot be conquered by the armed forces, but it can be severely wounded from within.

The other such strike happened in the Wild 90's by the hands of the US puppets Yeltsin and Gorby.

Now look at the proposition of division of Russia in the rhetoric of another Polish descendant, now serving US (instead of Napoleonic France) - Zbigniew Brzezinski. You'll see a lot of similarities... And Poland again is used as a convenient launching pad... they never learn.

And something like this was planned with Khodorkovskij, only it didn't work out.

Now plans a'brewing for another attempt at colour revolution in Russia and removal of Putin. And, as US Secretary of Defence said so precisely, the sanctions against Russia will be there until Russian Federation is broken up into pieces:

Negotiations to remove Putin. Evgeny Fedorov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCyUZjGV3Zg

PS: An interesting twist regarding Crimea. Napoleon planned to turn it into "another Riviera". Hitler envisaged it as the prime resort for the heads of the "Third Reich". USA had designs for it as a large NATO military base in the Black Sea...
686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Most Americans suffer from ‘Digital Amnesia’ on: July 12, 2015, 09:53:51 AM
I've got a hard question by my teacher, then the question couldn't be solved with my memory and made me can't slept. And now, if I get anything question, just search the answer with google. Search engines have two effects, one is help you to solving problem, and the other is make your intelligence going down.

It depends on how you use it, if you're just googling the answer then yeah all you're doing is memorising the fact and not actually learning anything. What I find however is that if I actually search for a real explanation on how to answer a maths question for example then that explains everything for me and I can work the rest out myself.

The internet has actually managed to help me fill a lot of gaps in my shitty maths teaching I had when I was younger and it's because people now post proper explanations up of how to calculate stuff and so on. It all depends on how you use the internet, people who just go straight for the answer are being lazy.

This.

Also, what happened to the good old days, when you had limited time at a terminal - enough to punch in your program, run it and see the results. Any debugging was done later "off-line" on paper or in your head. Smiley
687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pakistan warns India, says can use nuclear weapons if needed on: July 11, 2015, 02:22:05 PM
An artificially created by Great Britain (using religion as a defining factor) fragment of India threatens India proper.
Pakistan is just that - an artificially created country which was bitten off from India, a parting "gift" from the British Empire to their colony, India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choudhry_Rahmat_Ali

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Muslim nationalist who was one of the earliest proponents of the creation of the state of Pakistan. He is credited with creating the name "Pakistan" for a separate Muslim homeland in South Asia and is generally known as the founder of the movement for its creation. He is best known as the author of a famous 1933 pamphlet titled "Now or Never; Are We to Live or Perish Forever", also known as the Pakistan Declaration. The pamphlet started with a famous statement:

"At this solemn hour in the history of India, when British and Indian statesmen are laying the foundations of a Federal Constitution for that land, we address this appeal to you, in the name of our common heritage, on behalf of our thirty million Muslim brethren who live in PAKSTAN – by which we mean the five Northern units of India, Viz: Punjab, North-West Frontier Province (Afghan Province), Kashmir, Sind and Baluchistan."

...

In 1930 he moved to England to join Emmanuel College, Cambridge in 1931. In 1933, he published a pamphlet, Now or Never, coining the word Pakistan for the first time. In 1933, he founded Pakistan National Movement in England. Subsequently, he obtained a BA degree in 1933 and MA in 1940 from the University of Cambridge.
688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: July 11, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
To understand the mechanism of the ongoing aggression against Russia, watch this (with English subtitles and a transcript in the comments):

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Public statements by the US Government and Russia’s oligarchs indicate an ongoing negotiation for the extradition of Vladimir Putin and the dissolution of the Russian Federation.

That's the interpretation of Evgeny Fedorov, who details the mechanisms of leverage over Russia’s decision-makers in the business and state sectors.

Also explained is the opportunity for rapid industrialization and prosperity (in Russia, Greece and elsewhere) by introducing low interests rates and credit expansion for investment, in the context of the ongoing struggle for national sovereignty and self-determination.

SEGMENTS:

00:00 - Aggression against Russia.

08:00 - Construction of the coup d’état.

20:42 - Traitors in positions of power.

31:49 - Greece.

33:20 - Origins of NOD (National Liberation Movement).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCyUZjGV3Zg
689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Incest a 'fundamental right', German committee says on: July 11, 2015, 11:23:11 AM
If we turn to animal kingdom, there are examples of both incest, rape, interspecies sex and paedophilia.

The question is: should we give up one of the things that makes us human?
690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRT] Particle | CPU/GPU, Fast, Easy Mine, * NO PREMINE * | Official Thread on: July 11, 2015, 10:44:26 AM
Any block source IPs alive still?
691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Greece might be coming close to an agreement really soon (for real this time)! on: July 11, 2015, 10:00:40 AM
So to recap, Greece has put forward a plan of reforms, spending cuts and tax rises that is close to what was demanded by its creditors before Alexis Tsipras called last Sunday’s referendum.


What a waste of a referendum... People will ask why. The answer will be brutal, depressing.

Good luck Greece. Next time pay your bill on time. Turn those old creepy olympic stadiums into a resort before they turn into dust. Do not believe someone who tries to sell you the moon again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1110202.0


Exactly. But not surprising. There were plans for a ukrainian-style coup d'etat floating about before that referendum, and for that one needs at least minor social unrest. If Tsipras agrees to that "plan of reforms", it will be a suicide. Just like with Janukovich, who agreed to early elections with EU guarantors standing behind, and then got removed from the office the next day by armed thugs, so will Tsipras face the same scenario. He agrees to reforms, next day there'll be unrest on the streets with optional Nudel-cookies, some unknown and unaccounted snipers will shoot at police and at demonstrators from the rooftops, and then suddenly Greece will be ruled by a new "democratic" US State Dep-approved government...

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/10/6814/
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The ‘bad, cookie-wielding people from across the big pond’ simply used the situation skillfully to their advantage. Said another way: there is an old CIA/MI6 playbook: How to create color revolutions. It is the opinion of some very good analysts that this playbook hasn’t changed (it was only perfected) since the beginning of the 20th century. Why change what works wonders?

That’s how all these color revolutions we have observed, were created. Be it France to unseat De Gaulle, or Hungary in 1956, or Georgia, or Egypt, or Serbia, or Ukraine… It’s the same exact playbook. That’s why it was so easy to predict from the start that there would be cookies on Kiev maidan (or lavash, as in Armenia) and mysterious snipers, and innocent victims promoted all over Western MSM.

What this playbook targets is this: it capitalizes on the deep-seated resentments and anger of the volatile and immature part of the population. Extreme nationalism is part of the resentment and dissatisfaction due to the collapsing standard of living. This is why there was no nationalism in the USSR – the majority lived reasonably free (yes, free – in a sense of personal freedom to be yourself and live according to your tradition), was reasonably satisfied and well-occupied.

The movements to change things and the local power grabs began only after Gorbachev destroyed the structure that worked. Gorby’s intention may have been to reform and rebuild on the new level, however, in his naiveté he had no idea who and what he was dealing with internationally. You can’t try to negotiate in good faith, you can’t try to build cooperative relations with those countries that have one exclusive goal: to destroy your country. This is why most Russians consider Gorbachev a traitor and criminal. However, I think this is too simplified of a view. He genuinely thought he was building a new, cooperative world with the West – the world without confrontation. But along the way, he and his wife fell for the trappings of Western materialism, aka, very subtle bribes.

I pray Tsipras does not fall into the same trap that Gorby did.
692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: July 11, 2015, 09:54:45 AM
Not sure if this item fits best here or under the "mad Ukraine" title, but here goes:

Ukrainian armed forces are forming a special battalion, comprised of Tatars from Crimea. It will be the first all-Muslim battalion in Ukraine:
http://ria.ru/world/20150711/1125871935.html
693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS Rounds Up Mothers and Children and Burns Them Alive in Caliphate on: July 11, 2015, 09:34:37 AM
Don't believe all the videos from ISIS. Ukrainian CyberBerkut released some interesting footage, grabbed from laptops of Sen. McCain's colleges that they had with them to Ukraine. Wonder if Senator McCain or Senator McPalpatine.  Roll Eyes

http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-07-11/kiberberkut-raskryl-sekret-krovavyh-video-igil

http://www.cyber-berkut.ru/en/index.php

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We, CyberBerkut, have received a file which value cannot be overestimated!

Dear senator McCain! We recommend to you next time you are on a foreign trip, and especially to the territory of Ukraine, to not take with you confidential documents.

We have found a lot of interesting on one of the devices of your colleagues. Some of it we decided to publish: given video should become property of world community!

http://rutube.ru/video/b95b42fd248ab13998630583a18791b2/?ref=logo

The video shows how the "execution" videos by ISIS are staged.
694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 11, 2015, 09:28:25 AM
I don't read Western MSM, and every time I take a sample, I see no reason to start... Saw yesterday in a Norwegian tabloid a hit-piece on Putin, where Russians were presented as a miserable, pitiful, oppressed lot under the dictate of "da evil Putin" who allegedly sends those poor Russians to a war they don't want. And the authour of the article was a 20-something "journalist". It was disgusting...
Well, the only truth in that article was that Russians don't want war, and that's why Russia/Putin stayed out of the Ukrainian conflict however hard the West tried to draw Russia into it, but that's something no one bothers to mention. If the reality does not match the desired state, report a different "reality".



News from Donbass.

Ukro-Nazis exchanged/released some POWs from Donetsk yesterday. The youngest of them is a boy of 16. He was 15 when he was taken prisoner. Despicable.



CyberBerkut published a document from the notebook of MinJustice of Ukraine, which details instructions on which TV/Radio channels to ban and which grounds can be given to deny people entry into Ukraine. Having on your person a photo camera/memory cards, notebook or other gadgets are grounds enough to deny you entry. ythis efefctively blocks entry to all - no "just" Russian - journalists:

http://www.cyber-berkut.ru/main/20150709_00.php
695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 09, 2015, 06:14:50 PM
Grand Duchy of Finland and Kingdom of Poland were autonomous units with their own legislatures, governments and constitutions.

It's funny but Grand Duchy of Finland had greater sovereignty as part of Russian Empire than modern Republic of Finland within the EU.

Yes. Russian Empire was, in fact, a for-runner to modern federations.

Attesting to that is the fact that Finland, as a par of the Russian Empire, had its own mint and own coin line:
http://www.suomenrahapaja.fi/eng/about_money/the_history_of_finnish_money

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In December 1859 the Finnish Senate petitioned the Tsar for permission for the country’s own unit of currency noting that the rouble was too large a unit of currency for a poor country such as Finland. The advantages of a smaller unit of currency were understood in St Petersburg and the Senate was charged with examining the matter in greater detail. At a full session of the Senate on March 10th 1860 a decision was made to propose as a unit of currency the markka, which would be a quarter of the value of the rouble and which would be divided into 100 penni. Based on this proposal Tsar Alexander II gave his approval to the new unit of currency on April 4th 1860.



Having it's own monetary policy is usually what defines a sovereign state. Finns forgot that now, falling for almost a century of anti-Russian propaganda.
696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 09, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
You appear to be mixing up Ukraine and Belarus geographically. Belarus is landlocked. Ukraine, though the ports of Odessa and Mariupol, has access to the Black Sea and further to the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean.
It is not only me that is "mixing up". 20th century "mixed up" the people living in those lands something fierce.

First there was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curzon_Line .

Then there were some lines in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact .

Then there was plain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov_Line .

And then they had https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakerzonia .

And I'm most likely missing some other "lines".

It isn't a simple two-side conflict between Russia and Ukraine.

The real solution will have to involve cooperation of all involved peoples: Byelorussians, Poles, Russians and Ukrainians.

Edit: URL markup fixed.

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It isn't a simple two-side conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
Well, there is no conflict between "Russia and Ukraine". Russia has no bone with Ukraine (millions of Ukrainians live and work in Russia) and historically these lands were one and the same country. The same applies to Belarus. The "conflict" is rather artificial and one-sided, imposed by the West onto Ukraine so as to damage both Russia and Ukraine.

So in

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It is not only me that is "mixing up". 20th century "mixed up" the people living in those lands something fierce.

it's not just the 20th century. Mixing up went for centuries, when Ukraine Russia, Belorus were "just" Russia.

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The real solution will have to involve cooperation of all involved peoples: Byelorussians, Poles, Russians and Ukrainians.
Belorus and Russia are already cooperating. Ukraine did too until EU put an ultimatum that Ukraine must choose either EU or Russia, and then unseated the legitimate President, when he saw more potential in continued cooperation with Russia
697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: July 09, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
Posting this here as well:

Finland’s denying visas to Russian lawmakers undermines OSCE’s principles — OSCE chairman
http://tass.ru/en/world/807298

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Last week, Finland denied entry to the speaker of the Russian State Duma and five more Russian citizens who had planned to take part in the session of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly

Finland’s move not to allow some Russian delegation members to arrive for the annual session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) undermines its key principle on ensuring the dialogue between the countries, OSCE Chairman Ivica Dacic told the plenary session on Thursday.

"The OSCE core role as a platform for dialogue was undermined by the denial of visas to some members of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. It is contrary to the spirit of Helsinki," Dacic said.

On Wednesday, the PA approved the Helsinki declaration, the final document of the annual session.

Two resolutions on Russia have become part of it. The first of them on "the continuation of clear, gross and uncorrected violations of OSCE commitments and international norms by the Russian Federation" was proposed by Canada and Ukraine. The second resolution, initiated by Ukraine, alleges that Ukrainian citizens are "abducted and illegally held" by Russia.

A range of countries have refused to vote on these resolutions due to the absence of the Russian representatives.

Canada? Proposing to OCSE?

Ukrainian citizens abducted? Do they mean those 3 million economical and war refugees, who seek better life in Russia or simply flee for their lives from Kiev-juntas artillery?



Now Porosenko is hearing voices: that there is "children's laughter" on the streets of Slavjansk. The same Slavjansk, which was raised to the ground last year by the Ukro-Nazis, killing a lot of children and other civilians, and forcing many more to flee for their lives. If Poroshenko is hearing any children's laughter, it's either coming from the graves of the killed Russian children

Poroshenko's schizophrenia is getting worse. And at the same time, another schizophrenic (Mikheil Saakashvili) is troubling the civilians in Odessa, a few hundred kilometers away from Donetsk. Perhaps NATO needs to institutionalize these two mental patients and make Ihor Kolomoyskyi the president of (what is left of) Ukraine.

Saakashvili found new use to the site of the Odessa Massacre - the former Trade union house. In his vision it'll make a spiffing HQ of the Ukrainian Navy - after Porosenko said that Odessa will become the base town of the Ukrainian Navy:
http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2015/07/05/n_7349245.shtml?loi

Bryant, suggesting making Kolomojskij the president of Ukraine is the same as suggesting Al Capone as the president of USA. Kolomojskij has a record of coming to observe hit murders that he ordered when he consolidated money in his hands.

Russian Foreign Ministry commented on Saakashvili's idea, calling it "sordid" and "unscrupulous":
http://ria.ru/world/20150709/1123020200.html

While Odessites tell Saakashvili to go home (looks like the once Mexican chant of "Greens Go Home", referring to the Yankie's green uniforms, giving Americans the call-name of Gringos in Latin-America)
http://ria.ru/world/20150615/1070040412.html
698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: July 09, 2015, 12:06:55 PM
The following tidbit slipped my attention.

From Lada's article:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/07/08/greferendum-domino-effect-revolution-coming-the-future-of-europe-and-eurasia/

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Last week, Finland denied visas to Russian Duma Speaker Sergey Naryshkin and a number of the Russian Duma deputies, basically the top elected politicians in the country. They were scheduled to attend a session of the OSCE in Helsinki. The reason given for the visa denial is that these people are under sanctions due ‘Russia’s annexation of Crimea.’ The scandal is huge and growing, with many in Russia demanding return sanctions against Finland.  Finland, which prides itself in its democracy – again, when it’s convenient – acted illegally. The thing is that Naryshkin and others cannot be banned from attending international forums in any country. The ban only applies to their private trips. By banning entire Russian delegation, EU effectively shuts the mouth of those who have a dissenting opinion.


Ah, now it makes sense why Finland was pressured into not allowing Russian democratically elected representatives entry on a diplomatic mission to OCSE PA. Russia was to be denied speaking in its defence at any cost, even resorting to violation of democracy, international law and diplomatic norms, which the West so hypocritically "values".

OCSE PA has now one-sidedly approved and anti-Russian resolution:
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/2103516

Lavrov commented it as such: "Now, in our absence, they (OCSE PA) have fallen for the temptation to do propaganda instead of doing concrete work."
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/07/09/n_7360769.shtml



At least not all in Europe have lost it.

Finland’s denying visas to Russian lawmakers undermines OSCE’s principles — OSCE chairman
http://tass.ru/en/world/807298

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Last week, Finland denied entry to the speaker of the Russian State Duma and five more Russian citizens who had planned to take part in the session of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly

Finland’s move not to allow some Russian delegation members to arrive for the annual session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) undermines its key principle on ensuring the dialogue between the countries, OSCE Chairman Ivica Dacic told the plenary session on Thursday.

"The OSCE core role as a platform for dialogue was undermined by the denial of visas to some members of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly. It is contrary to the spirit of Helsinki," Dacic said.

On Wednesday, the PA approved the Helsinki declaration, the final document of the annual session.

Two resolutions on Russia have become part of it. The first of them on "the continuation of clear, gross and uncorrected violations of OSCE commitments and international norms by the Russian Federation" was proposed by Canada and Ukraine. The second resolution, initiated by Ukraine, alleges that Ukrainian citizens are "abducted and illegally held" by Russia.

A range of countries have refused to vote on these resolutions due to the absence of the Russian representatives.

Canada? Proposing to OCSE?

Ukrainian citizens abducted? Do they mean those 3 million economical and war refugees, who seek better life in Russia or simply flee for their lives from Kiev-juntas artillery?



Oh, well. There is always BRICS:
http://tass.ru/en/world/807305

BRICS/SCO summits in Russian city of Ufa LIVE UPDATES
http://rt.com/business/272254-russia-brics-sco-summits/
699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA attack to RUSSIA soon. on: July 09, 2015, 10:33:08 AM
USA won't attack because there's nothing to gain by doing it. Even if the war was conventional both sides would just reduce their fighting potential and possibly make themselves vulnerable to an attack by someone else  like Isis.

I beg to differ. Just like after WWII, debts will be written off and war industry will profit. And ISIS, just like Taliban/AlQuaeda is the product/weapon of USA.
700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If Greece fails, can the country disappear? on: July 09, 2015, 10:27:51 AM
Another good point from here:
http://www.i-uvsweden.com/i-oliver-blog/the-eunifying-split

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Germany has been defaulting 7 time over the last hundreds of years and have gotten their debts signed off several times do you see the hipocricy? The debt is fraud cause it didn't go  to the people but still they are screaming give our money back...

Did it disappear?
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