Got one, they arent going overly fast, its been 20 minutes and theres still 280 of 300 remaining lol
I’m not surprised, as they are LARGELY overpriced. Nice moneygrab by trezor  The box better not be the lameass trezor box they send whites an blacks in. I probably won't open mine |
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Got one, they arent going overly fast, its been 20 minutes and theres still 280 of 300 remaining lol
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800 FOMO  Haha, good point. But still, it's not a 50000 batch.  And they are assembled in Germany by one person right now (not me), if that counts for anything. I give mad props to any man or woman that places perfect holograms. or perhaps robot?!!? |
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As ognasty mentioned we'd have to crack down hard on the people that have been proven to shill bid or host unfair auctions. As long as everyone keeps on accepting it there's no point in arguing about how to handle newbie accounts. After all, I assume the main issue is that we believe the newbies to be shill bidders, correct?
Not necessarily "believe all newbies to be shill bidders" but rather for if there is a newbie bidder we have somewhere to point them.. right now its a free for all and its just he said she said / who can yell "shill bidder" the loudest. Auctions are free game here with the ability to edit posts and whatnot, its up to us to control an patrol round these parts. AKA I think we do a pretty good job without moderation, but for someone that isn't around all the time they should have some sort of FAQ/Guideline that they can look at for proper bidding etiquette. |
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I’d say it’s a good idea for newbie accounts to make a small deposit to a third party, trusted person, like MJ.
That way the escrow can always confirm the deposit, and hold it in case the newbie doesn’t honor his bid.
Once the newbie account has plenty of feedback to confirm he’s legit, there’s no more need for this ofcourse.
What do you guys think about this?
I can't believe I agree with bavi. I agree with bavi. One caveat, how much of a deposit is necessary to bid on an item considering in auctions we won't know the final price. I'd alter a bit and say put x amount in escrow and signed message from a wallet showing balance capable of paying for the item at hand. Escrows don't work for free and this is a lot of responsibility if something falls through and said escrow 'vouches' for them through this service. It's going to be tough to find something that works and it's the reason we don't already have something in place. I think copper membership is a start and a must. But needs something further. |
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Reserved for rules if we come to a conclusion
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This has been going on for longer than any of us can remember, week long auction, end time is coming up fast and before you know it you're being outbid by someone that came out of nowhere with no recent activity.. is this person legitimate or are they a sock puppet bidding us up? Impossible to tell and it is hard to want to continue bidding against this person(real or not).
I've never seen a moderator active or do anything(unless behind the scenes) in this space (not a bad thing imo), I firmly believe that the Collectibles community runs itself in regards to Auctions and Sales and leaving good trust/bad trust for people that do not follow the standard that we run here. As a community we have run off some shady actors, but also lost ourselves a few good actors in the process unfortunately.
We need to come up with something that is non invasive, not costly, non profit making, but agreeable upon by bidders and auction hosters (whether single person or a corporation).
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Denarium, it often times looks suspicious to some people when newbie accounts come in and make large raises like that.. we understand that based on where you guys are located there may be names that just lurk and don't post so much in the english-speaking dominated forum.. just imagine if you had left trust with him 11months ago stating he bid and paid, transaction went smooth.. this wouldn't even pop up as questionable. use the forum's tools to your advantage. I appreciate this feedback and we will definitely consider improvements to increase trust. I agree with this, it seems that these accounts only come out to bid on Denarium auctions. There were many things that I was wanting to bid on but will not participate because of of the fear of getting bid up. I raised this issue and an auction here recently which I continue to bid in until a other account came in and started bidding that only bids on their auctions. I know for a fact it cost them money knowing what I was prepared to bid. I'm not saying that anyting fishy is going on, I'm just saying I'm not betting against 2 newbie accounts or any other accounts that just bid on their stuff with no interaction with the community outside of that. I do not post a lot myself so I do have an understanding there but at least I have some kind of History with multiple and different transactions. We have always seen the same with the BTCC Mint auctions. Denarium being based in Finland and BTCC Mint 'was' based in China, you never know if they put out Facebook ads or tv commercial slots or the equivalent in their local forms of social media. This brings newbie accounts here and maybe we as the skeptics (its not a bad thing to be one) need to establish an unofficial official rule or two for future auctions, something easy to follow and easy to abide by. |
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Denarium, it often times looks suspicious to some people when newbie accounts come in and make large raises like that.. we understand that based on where you guys are located there may be names that just lurk and don't post so much in the english-speaking dominated forum.. just imagine if you had left trust with him a year ago stating he bid and paid, transaction went smooth.. this wouldn't even pop up as questionable. use the forum's tools to your advantage.
congrats to the winners, if we skyrocket again i'll definitely be buying one of these beauties in the future
edit- changed 11months to 1year as he didn't win the January 2018 auction.
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Sale agreed with PirateHatForTea with hand delivery to Europe before the year's end for 16 BTC, PHFT please to publicly post your BTC receiving addie for when we do the handover, many thanks!
Thank you for price transparency Otoh! Beautiful coin. |
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I agree per person limits is a nice thing, but the rare wild no limit per person limited edition item adds to the excitement. Unless its a scalper that's just going to resell for higher, then fuck them.
Sometimes in order to trade for a rare piece you need an even/equally rare piece to trade with. This sort of sale helps the lucky collector that noticed and bought immediately.
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I purchased one of the limited mystery note 2 so I can confirm they were for sale for a very very short period of time
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I take it that theses coins come with the wood display case that was made for them, right?  The King Kamehameha set came with the wood displays. The XMR set did not. |
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Silver
+1 silver pops with tight lines. gold sometimes gets cheap looking when its that intricate. |
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