Proving the negative is notoriously hard (often impossible), and yet that's exactly what you're asking of me. No, friend, game theory is "the study of mathematical models of conflict and cooperation between intelligent rational decision-makers." Mathematical models are the very essence of being open to proof, see here. So, on one hand, you don’t need to provide any proof that non-mining nodes (or nodes) are irrelevant to Bitcoin’s security. On the other hand, you suggest that mathematical models make such proof possible. Then, instead of providing any evidence of your argument, you link to an encyclopedia article about “Mathematical proof.” Really compelling. No. That's retarded. Stop being retarded. 1. You tell me that hanging garlands of garlic on our front door is essential for home security, because stops Evol from getting in. 2. When I object & ask you to explain how, you retort with "so prove to me that garlic is not essential for for our security." 3. I point out that such proof, as is the case for most "prove the negative," would be difficult, if not altogether impossible, and that the burden of proof remains with you. I go on to suggest that Lol, that's where the root of your problem lies -- you think that "there's no such thing as proof in game theory and economics" Claiming that "there's no such thing as proof in game theory and economics" is proof positive that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and are wasting my time. Please stick to digging ditches & stop wasting my time, madjules007. inb4 "But holy water": No, stop grasping at straws & keep digging. |
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Money is a tool.Bitcoin is money.You can use the money to buy poison or nectar.It doesn't makes bitcoin bad if it is put to bad use just like you dont stop using fiat despite a it is also used to buy weapons etc
Sure. Money is a tool. As is an AK47. You can use an AK to dig a nice garden, and I'm sure it's been used as a spade many times. But it's much better suited for killing people. A fluffy pillow is also a tool, which has been used to smother people many times. And yet it lends itself so much better to being a headrest, so it's not tightly regulated. This is analogous to Bitcoin and fiat: Fiat, while a percentage of it is used to buy shitty oily meth & nugs with comically-oversized magazines, is also used to build hospitals, and roads, and baby formula, and toilet paper. Bitcoin? well, it's used to hold hospital databases for ransom, which would be darn impractical, albeit not altogether impossible, with plain old fiat. Ransomeware, kidnappings, illegal internet gambling, ponzi schemes, phony investment schemes, DNMs -- these are Bitcoin's unique use case scenarios. Tell me why you think governments/ordinary people should welcome it. |
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But it's all spam, ChartBuddy. |
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Too bad, I guess it ll just be for bragging rights then :-)
Sure. I've been wrong many times recently. Even admitted I would have made the same call as BJA a few days ago (didn't only because don't gamble on Bitcoin anymore, due to not being very very stupid). No market analytics possible in a market as manipulated as Bitcoin, might as well run analysis on dice. P.S. Monero is another one I totally missed. I mean, it just keeps chugging up, +26%/24hrs, even some volume there. What gives? Edit: And AsicMiner -- the company doesn't even exist any more, and shares are up, like 350% over the past month  Go figure :/ |
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... Hopefully we don't dip below ...
~85% chance within hour. ~90% chance within day. Want to bet on that? I ll give you 80 % chance and say within day it doesn't dip below 400 (finex). If I win I get 200 USD worth of bitcoin, if you win you get 50 USD worth of bitcoin. No. I don't bet/do business on Bitcointalk. Basically for the same reason I don't bet on street-corner Three Card Monte/shell games: too much scamming  P.S. Nothing against you personally tho, I'm sure you're legit. |
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... Hopefully we don't dip below ...
~85% chance within hour. ~90% chance within day. |
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... At some stage these coins has to go through mixer services, and then these services should work
with authorities to catch them. ... If you were to take a stab in the dark, why would you guess people use mixers? With that in mind, you suppose mixers will be open to regulation? |
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And so $405 was crushed! Yay! To be honest, I kind of like this that the price stabilizes a bit and stays in the $400 ballpark for the day or two. It's only a good thing that it doesn't rise like a rocket every time.
+1 It's like being in a nice, family-friendly casino. You don't win much, but you don't lose much, ether. Not too noisy, a wide selection of non-alcoholic drinks, the food is priced reasonably, and all the women are sensibly dressed. With name tags, so you can call them by name. "Marry Allen, freshen my cup when you get a chance?" More personal, I like that. |
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How's that purge going? Edit: (Not a collectivist purge at all, of course. A free and tree hugging, rainbow kissing anarchist purge.) I have to admit I miss lurking around the gold thread. The forum is kind of a husk of what it was. First they fork the forum, then they fork Reddit, then they fork Bitcoin, then we lose  |
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Money is laundered with bitcoins and with all kind of money, this is one problem difficult to solve. You can use prepaid phone cards, amazon cards, or dollar notes to launder your money. Its a problem that existed before bitcoin.
Your right even when BTC didn't exist they always find a way for money laundering. Never ending story ridiculous people don't understand that. Right. You can kill a man with a fluffy pillow if you don't have a Kalashnikov. It's a bit *easier* with a Kalashnikov, that's all. Oddly, there are places on earth which try to regulate AK47s, while any child can go into a store & buy pillows. |
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If the hospital used a decentralized way to store data instead of storing all data in the same place, they would not be facing said problems. You can thank Bitcoin to teach you the lesson of decentralization sooner than later.
I'm'a gonna break into your house, rape your family and slaughter your dog. You can thank Bitcoin me to teach you the lesson of decentralization sooner than later; to decentralize your loved ones, instead of keeping them all in one [insecure] place. For the mentally challenged: This is a joke. Don't want to rape the retard's family because don't want AIDS. |
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^^Shh! "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."--Brainyquotes.com Let hate & paranoia swallow them up. They deserve it  ~Agent Provocateur; Risque lingerie at bottom (lol, I said bottom) prices! |
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Translation: !Core = Sybil; //because reasons  |
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[text effects]I'm saying that the control of money issuance is the real problem.[/text effects]
No. Love of money is the real problem, it's a sickness. Like cancer. Like AIDS. And even that's a derivative, so not even that. You're cute You got the brains, I got the looks, let's make a whole lot of money  |
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[text effects]I'm saying that the control of money issuance is the real problem.[/text effects]
No. Love of money is the real problem, it's a sickness. Like cancer. Like AIDS. And even that's a derivative, so not even that. |
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okay, I'll try I guess...
economic agent is not my term so good luck with that.
economic majority is not my term either so please ask me a specific question or just fuck off
I can't really find a specific question in your gibberish, so I have nothing to say to you
1. I asked you to define "economic agent," it is a term used by BitUsher which I don't understand and he failed to define. You do not know what that is either. Good, we're in the same boat, let's move on. 2. I asked you to define "economic majority," a term bandied about by those who claim non-mining nodes wallets "represent the economic majority." When I Google "economic majority", the first result is Economic majority - Bitcoin Wiki, which tells me that "If the economic majority doesn't run full nodes Bitcoin is dead." This is somewhat worrying, because I'm not sure what "economic majority" is, and if I'm it You do not know what that is either. Good, we're in the same boat, let's move on. >I can't really find a specific question You have found two, and had no answers. Do you know *anything* about Bitcoin nodes, or will asking further questions be unproductive? Edit: You deleted your post? No need to be embarrassed, I don't understand this Gypsy magic either... All I know about bitcoin nodes is that any attempt to change the rules of consensus will end badly. Probably exactly the result you're looking for. Well, it's something. In the future, why not tell me at the outset that you don't know anything? (it's a hypothetical, no need to answer this). I'm somewhat disappointed that you don't know shit, and that your strong convictions are based on blind, fanatical faith rather than reason and understanding, but hey, every soul is useful, amirite? God don't make junk and all that. Peace. |
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^^Not sure if joking. Here: ...
What the Fuck is a "non-mining node" if not a wallet?
If you had significant wealth invested in a system, you would expect your interface to validate transactions, correct?
A wallet is exactly what it is! And yet, there are those who *insist* that such nodes are essential to Bitcoin security. Not to *your BTC security* -- obviously, a real wallet helps -- but Bitcoin, the network security. Re. your second question: I would expect my WALLET to validate my transactions. It's a non-mining node, that's its job. Or my web wallet (if I chose to trust one) -- it will run a node, because it's its JOB. I don't need to encourage anyone to run nodes, I don't need to discourage anyone from running *different* nodes -- I don't CARE, it don't effect ME, because it doesn't affect Bitcoin security. Also, reposting my edit: Also please explain the meaning of "economic agent." Is that a person? A sum of money? A person with a sum of money?
A person running a wallet (non-mining node)? A legal entity? Can both my business and myself be economic agents?
And "economic majority" (as defined in Bitcoin wiki), explain that shit.
okay, I'll try I guess... economic agent is not my term so good luck with that. economic majority is not my term either so please ask me a specific question or just fuck off I can't really find a specific question in your gibberish, so I have nothing to say to you 1. I asked you to define "economic agent," it is a term used by BitUsher which I don't understand and he failed to define. You do not know what that is either. Good, we're in the same boat, let's move on. 2. I asked you to define "economic majority," a term bandied about by those who claim non-mining nodes wallets "represent the economic majority." When I Google "economic majority", the first result is Economic majority - Bitcoin Wiki, which tells me that "If the economic majority doesn't run full nodes Bitcoin is dead." This is somewhat worrying, because I'm not sure what "economic majority" is, and if I'm it You do not know what that is either. Good, we're in the same boat, let's move on. >I can't really find a specific question You have found two, and had no answers. Do you know *anything* about Bitcoin nodes, or will asking further questions be unproductive? Edit: You deleted your post? No need to be embarrassed, I don't understand this Gypsy magic either... |
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^^Not sure if joking. Here: ...
What the Fuck is a "non-mining node" if not a wallet?
If you had significant wealth invested in a system, you would expect your interface to validate transactions, correct?
A wallet is exactly what it is! And yet, there are those who *insist* that such nodes are essential to Bitcoin security. Not to *your BTC security* -- obviously, a real wallet helps -- but Bitcoin, the network security. Re. your second question: I would expect my WALLET to validate my transactions. It's a non-mining node, that's its job. Or my web wallet (if I chose to trust one) -- it will run a node, because it's its JOB. I don't need to encourage anyone to run nodes, I don't need to discourage anyone from running *different* nodes -- I don't CARE, it don't effect ME, because it doesn't affect Bitcoin security. Also, reposting my edit: Also please explain the meaning of "economic agent." Is that a person? A sum of money? A person with a sum of money?
A person running a wallet (non-mining node)? A legal entity? Can both my business and myself be economic agents?
And "economic majority" (as defined in Bitcoin wiki), explain that shit.
> or fuck off. If you have no answers, at least stop being a rude faggot. |
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