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721  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: So should I make this bet with 1 bitcoin? on: January 25, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
If you are unable to withdraw it doesn't mean you cannot get your money. Instead of risking a thousand bucks, you should better wait for their answer and then see what to do next.. This is what I would do, now it is only your choice. Calm down and think about it: would you prefer spending a week trying to get the $900 back or you prefer to risk losing it in seconds?
What are you talking about!?
I lost the money already! It has been a month now and they refused to give me my withdrawal even after following their rules and submitting i.d for indentification purposes so they can allow me to take it out of there. But then they brought up even more hoops for me to jump through after getting that passport and proof of address from me. And they still denied my request for withdrawal. So I bet it all just to not have to talk to their annoying security team and their hopeless support people that could not even even see that I was in the right.
And gamesprotect you are right they don't see it as currency so they can get away with murder that way in stealing from their players and knowing they can get away with it because they know we have baseless cases against them for their juristdiction will be in their favor if ever brought to a court of law.
And on another thread you explained win 10 machine being seen from logging into their site with the same ip address. So what. Everbody uses win10 operating system or chrome if were all using new laptops and tablets. That has no merit to lock a users account from withdrawing.
What if we all bet on directbet.eu with them instead. They would not block any user accounts because of this. This is just ridculous way to scam people from their winnings at these two bit casinos.
722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: So should I make this bet with 1 bitcoin? on: January 25, 2017, 04:19:04 PM
They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes )and their scamming ways.
Someone with 10 accounts, usually would use a VPN to have different IPs. Therefore, to say 10 same IPs = one account holder is nonsense!

They can also see the operating system of the pc and I am pretty sure that it was not 10 times the same, if different users.


I don't think the IP should be a big issue here, there are people who are just using prepaid connection, hence every time you connect to the internet you will be given a ramdom IP and most likely it will not be the same the as your IP address before. I don't understand what really is the problem here but if everything should be based on the terms and condition of the sportsbet.io.
Exactly!
That should not matter I know.
They are just a bastardized site. That is clear to all here now after all of this has surfaced.
I do not lose sleep at night over any of this.
They will find themselves going under for their operating methods & crooked ways.
I am certain of this. Wink Grin
723  Other / Meta / Re: Forum overloaded can intermittent connection all the time. on: January 24, 2017, 09:27:50 PM
Now getting this message when trying to read the forum.

An Error Has Occurred!
Hacking attempt...

What is going on now Roll Eyes

That appeared briefly while I was in the middle of improving something. No need to worry.
If you need me to give you 1 bitcoin to upgrade your servers then let me know.
As this user suggested is the reason for these problems happening all the sudden.


I got used to it by now.

I think we should all send Theymos 1 BTC so he can upgrade the datacenter. Then things will be fine.  Tongue Kiss Cool
All I ask is you have me ranked as a donator member. Wink
724  Other / Meta / Re: Forum overloaded can intermittent connection all the time. on: January 24, 2017, 09:05:59 PM
Now getting this message when trying to read the forum.

An Error Has Occurred!
Hacking attempt...

What is going on now Roll Eyes
725  Other / Beginners & Help / What is this leet mean in the number of posts? on: January 24, 2017, 08:01:42 PM
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I saw this and said what the h3ll?
 Cheesy
726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: So should I make this bet with 1 bitcoin? on: January 24, 2017, 06:39:01 PM
Really that was amazing better contact support because if you try to play again means you will loose those money also. It's better quit the game and try to withdraw that amount, if you want to play again try with small amounts if possible.
What do you think i did?
Support did nothing for this and just made it worst by delaying and delaying it until I just put it all down so I can just finish with them.
They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes )and their scamming ways.

You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1738312.msg17590963#msg17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.
Thanks for the information. It will definitely be looked into.

Do I have permission to ask sportsbet.io about your account? Books require it before they talk to a 3rd party.
Go ahead. Cause I did everything that they asked for. Submitting my identification on their site to receive payment from what their support told me. I have that archived. But they base it on not knowing that there are several individuals who use the internet connection where I was staying at during that time period I was using their site. It was the freaking holidays for god's sake!
There are 25 people visiting and in the very same house hold. If half of them want to use the same internet connection on their devices then who am I to regulate who goes to which site on the connection?
That is their basis of not allowing me to withdraw within a 24 hour period of the last one that was successfully processed mind you only 60 mbtc and not the 429mbtc that I requested that was denied all the sudden because they saw the same connection come in just a week ago which was Christmas day for fucks sake. I have over 10 cousins and brothers that go on the internet and are wanting to use the same sites as the others use. They are sheep you know that want to go and do what the others are doing to "get into the action" so to speak.
It is wifi and it is secured so they do not have right to come up with excuses such as these that they have given me.
I have since asked them to close the account so I have nothing more to do with them.
If they argue with me on this or do anymore accusations on me with my internet activity using their site I will sue them because they asked me to send in my passport and proof of address which is illegal where I live! These companies do not have the right to give out any confidential information about their players and in closing my account none should be on their system and on their files about me.
You can ask them but all they can tell you is of what happened as I have just told to you right here.
Once closed it should be erased from them and their customer database. Which I highly doubt it either.

PM sent. They have been good in the past in getting back so we should hear from them soon.

Pure bitcoin books should only ask for KYC information in rare circumstances. One reason for using these books is to remain anonymous.

If a book sees 10 accounts from the same IP, they should say something immediately. Don't free roll the player by accepting losses and not paying winners.
727  Other / Meta / Re: Forum overloaded can intermittent connection all the time. on: January 24, 2017, 06:10:17 PM
I'm also having the same issue in the last a few minutes only. You did good reporting the problem but from the look of it , It looks more like a DDOS attack even though we are not used to see this error message and you should move this topic to the Meta section as mentioned on the message.
I saw that in the message but lets get real. Nobody notices anything in the meta section until it is over. Cheesy
This is the first time I have seen this message displayed this way and it has been over a year of being here and not seeing this message in this way. Just wanted a verification from others as soon as possible that I am not the only one experiencing this same message in this form so I know I don't have a virus or something on my connection(trump style cyber attack/cyber listening going on from the Russians Wink ) that I should be more concerned about.
728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: So should I make this bet with 1 bitcoin? on: January 24, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
I think he already used that money to play again and lost. So sad to read it. There is a lesson from this story. Self control is very important not only when we did gamble, but when we faced a technical problem, we have to keep patient and don't let such problem gives a big impact to our games. Try to fix the problem first before we decide to play another games.


Yes seems the match already finished. I guess we can learn something from this, the first when you doubt for gambling, better you do not force yourself to gamble because everything begins with doubt will ended with disaster and also when you doubt on something never put huge money or you will regret.
They are stealing funds and not paying their players when they win coming up with everything possible outside of the law of their license to not pay them their winnings. This in itself is not right!
They are out of the U.K I have valid reason to believe this but their casino(s) are registered in Cuaco where they think just having them licensed their they are safe from the law and where they think nobody can touch them when stealing from their customers. This is embezzling funds which is illegal in any part of the world under all legal jurisdictions no matter where they think they are protected in where operating out of.
729  Other / Meta / Forum overloaded can intermittent connection all the time. on: January 24, 2017, 05:55:49 PM
I am getting this error when I am trying to connect and post here for the last 20 minutes.

Busy, try again (504)

The server seems to be overloaded right now. Please try again in a little while.

If you are getting this error while trying to post something, press the reload/refresh button in your browser and accept the browser warning. Keep doing this until you get a non-error page, at which point your post will be made. Leave at least a few seconds between each attempt.

It is normal for this error to occur every once in a while. There is generally no need to report it. However, if you get this error so often that it becomes especially disruptive, post to the Meta section of the forum about it.

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Anybody else faces this challenge when trying to connect to the forum?
730  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: January 24, 2017, 05:51:48 PM
Sportsbet.io will find their day infront of the courts for breaching the real purpose of collecting data of their players for their so called KYC practices:
Updated on March 16, 2016

This is the Privacy Policy of X Inc., which is referred to in this Privacy Policy, we or us. This Privacy Policy applies to information we collect from users of our website at x, our mobile apps, our blog, other online services, recipients of our emails, or when you otherwise interact with us. It describes the data that we collect about you, and how we use, share and protect this data.

Collecting and Using Data

We collect information that you provide to us, including:

    Your profile. Your name, email address, mobile phone number, government-issued photo identification, date of birth, physical address, such as when you create an account, complete your profile or submit a request for support;
    Information about transactions you complete using our services, including the amount of funds associated with a bitcoin transaction, the type of transaction executed, and other related information;
    Cookies. We use cookies on our website to collect data about your visit and to allow you to navigate from page to page without having to re-login each time, count visits, and see which areas and features of our website are popular. We do not link the information we store in cookies to any information you submit while on our website. We may also use the data collected via cookies to tailor advertisements to you and to track the popularity of our website. Our use of cookies and other technologies may allow us and third parties to collect information about your browsing activities over time and across different websites following your use of our services.
    Analytics. When you visit our website, we use third party analysis tools to collect data about your computer and Internet connection. That information includes the IP address of your computer and/or Internet service provider, when you access our website, the Internet address of websites from which you link to our website and from which you came before landing on our website, the browser that you are using, and your movements and preferences on our website. All of this information is used internally for the purpose of understanding how our website is being used and improving our website. We also use third party analysis tools to collect data about your use of our mobile apps. The information collected identifies the types and timing of actions you take within our mobile, including installation, registration, uploading, and certain types of navigating. All of this information is used internally for the purpose of understanding how our mobile apps are being used and improving them.

How We Protect The Data We Collect

We use reasonable physical, electronic, and procedural safeguards to protect the personal information that we obtain from you from loss, misuse, and unauthorized access, disclosure, alteration, and destruction. Please note that we are not responsible for the security of any data you are transmitting over the Internet, or any data you are storing, posting, or providing directly to a third party’s website, which is governed by that party’s policies. Please note that no method of transmission over the Internet or method of electronic storage is 100% secure. If you have further questions about security, you can contact us at support@x.co.uk.

Data Retention

If you wish to close your account altogether, please let us know by submitting a request to support@x.co.uk. We may retain information about you in our databases for as long as your account is active or as needed to provide you services and in accordance with applicable laws. Our retention and use of your information will be as necessary to comply with our legal obligations, resolve disputes, and enforce our agreements. The retention period may extend beyond the end of your relationship with us, but it will be only as long as it is necessary for us to have sufficient information to respond to any issues that may arise later. For example, we may need or be required to retain certain information to prevent fraudulent activity, protect ourselves against liability, permit us to pursue available remedies or limit any damages that we may sustain, or if we believe in good faith that a law, regulation, rule or guideline requires it.

It happened to google and it will happen to them.
They have no right to collect data no matter what part of the country they are in thinking they are fully protected and shielded from the law where they so called operate from.
They will find them selves taken to court for embezzling players funds.
Mark my words on this. This will happen to them!
731  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: So should I make this bet with 1 bitcoin? on: January 24, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
Lol what? did you deposit fiat or tried to withdrawal fiat? or was it all pure bitcoin? this isn't a new thing and not only gambling services but eobot(cloud mining scam) did the same thing with my brother, after a few month of mining they blocked his account and said sorry you are not verified so you wont get any coins.
When fiat money is not involved anyone telling you to provide ID for withdrawing bitcoin is just trying to scam you and you should know this already.
If you can send credits to other users then better try that sending to your alt but if they are doing this with all players then no use in doing that and this will be the end of their business.
Yes it seems that they pulled what happened on the Eobot scam.
They have no right for asking for ID to prove anything when it is to with bitcoins. People are anonoymous using it and want to stay that way. Even when I did send it they denied to send me the bitcoins which pissed me right off. Directbet.eu does not involve themselves in asking for ID when making and settling your bets so what makes them think and all the other casinos dealing with bitcoins think they have the right to ask for this before allowing a withdrawal of any amount!? That makes absolutely no sense to anyone with a brain in their head!
Screw these guys and their f*cked up casino.
They will have their casino and their connection to the other ones they own audited and sued for embezzlement soon enough.  I swear that will happen the way they think they can get away with stealing bitcoins from people this way.
I have no worry on that from happening.
732  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin Bitpay Debit Card? on: January 24, 2017, 04:52:19 AM
Who owns bitpay? Is it in league with any of the big exchanges?
Is it available outside of the states? Cause $9.95 is cheaper than any of the other cards that normally costs $15 to get it mailed to you.
733  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTS $113 btc for $106.22 paypal on: January 24, 2017, 03:41:29 AM
Are you only taking paypal for a funding source or do you take any others?
Payza, skrill or payoneer?
I can do all three of those but nothing on paypal right now. Embarrassed
734  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [BUY BTC] I will buy your BTC for my Paypal on: January 23, 2017, 08:48:18 PM
Your trades look like they went without delay.
Will be looking to do a single trade with him to see what the wait time is and how much he will give me for my bitcoin.
Will give my review after we do this.
Thanks above poster for this vouch for this buyer of bitcoin.
LLec
735  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you use a Bitcoin debit card? on: January 23, 2017, 08:43:54 PM
Who are the card issuers for the MasterCard version of these bitcoin debit cards?
I know Gibraltar is for Visa ones.

Are there any that don't charge you monthly to not have a balance on the card?
I can understand if you do but if I want to keep it dormant until I need it then this does not make sense. I just want to have the card ready and waiting for when I want to start using it.
736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What type of wallet do you use? on: January 23, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
I use a wallet that has multi sig implemented for security purposes.
So it doesn't get hacked into unexpectedly.
It would also help if you use a webwallet to get one with the 2FA option available and to active it.
If you don't do that then your bitcoins are not safe.
737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: January 23, 2017, 06:37:01 PM
The way it is looking now with these tax havens being controlled now by their countries governments that is looking highly unlikely now.
You do know that in Switzerland they are making it law to allow them to tax those who hold bank accounts who were tax-free for the longest time. It has already happened a year now to those from Canada who held any money in these such accounts.
http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/taxes/for-canadians-with-a-secret-swiss-bank-account-time-is-running-out
And I recently heard they are doing this for all other countries too. Including residents who reside in  Dubai of UAE and other billionaires who have accounts held with them.
738  Other / Off-topic / Re: Whats Your Current Balance In Bitcoins ? on: January 23, 2017, 05:15:53 PM
I do not have any and waiting for a settlement to be held for the over 1 btc that is owed to me for trusting in a site that is close to committing fraud.
Check my previous posts of this for I am having a reputable investigator here in revealing of this attempt that has been going on for a month now without any resolution of the situation so far.
739  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: █ ☆☆☆betstreak.co™☆☆☆ █ ✔ Up To 375% bonus ✔ Free Spin Bonus ✔ Cashback bonus on: January 23, 2017, 08:51:31 AM
I would invite my friends to play at your sites, fast verification process and payout.  Smiley
So you must verify your account on the site before accepting deposits of anything from you?
Well that is a good way on how to conduct a casino business. So when a player wins something on their site they can not just turn around and say "Hey! You need to verify your account before we can pay you anything!" once you have any funds in the account that is unverified.
Right Sportsbet.io?! Roll Eyes
740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Insurance companies accepting Bitcoin? on: January 23, 2017, 08:38:33 AM
The idea is really good but insurance company will not accept may be because government will have an eye on every transaction, till now government has not given any signals to authorized insurance companies to accept bitcoin as one of the payment method for premiums may be. But one day it is going to happen all companies will start accepting bitcoins.
If they can't tax it they wouldn't accept it.
That should be a question on your exam.
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