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Thanks for the info A L I E N! I have just generated stake all of a sudden too. My giveaway will resume once everything is up to date. Make sure all your clients are up to date once this is is resolved.
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B6irCBNJeQojpzMBydRA7qJGz5LV1qgpoJ Shweet.. Thanks Hey, just downloaded the client, but it won't sync, says I need to update to 0.4.1 or newer.. what gives? Nevermind, it syncs  yes having same problems, think dev in middle of update, strange things are happening on my end. |
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THE GIVEAWAY IS OVER!
Please make sure you have the latest client, and re-downloaded the blockchain!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238608.msg2550970#msg2550970
Thanks to everyone for their interest in Bitbar, and I wish you well with the small amount I have given you.
I hope you all continue to have a supporting interest in Bitbar, and to help give it the future it deserves.
I have sent shares up to valuecoin on page 11.The reason for this is stated below.I'm up to the beginning of page 7. Accounts that are solely used for giveaways have not been sent.
This is a discussion forum!
So if you have posted after the 100 mark you are still in the giveaway, depending on how many sock puppet accounts posted before you.
Sorry this giveaway has been delayed, but I have had a few problems getting my client back in order.
Thanks Killiz
Thanks Killiz [/size][/color] I'm giving away 0.1 Bitbar to each of the next 100 members who post their address. You must have 10+ posts with a degree of significance. i.e. ( not one word answers to the many get out of jail games in the newbie section). Info: Official site: http://bitbar.biz/Client Downloads: 0.4.1Windows: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4om3KFtcvGYV3NGdmdOZEZ3c2s&usp=sharing http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitbar/files/bitbar-0.4.1/ Sources: https://github.com/aLQ/bitbarAnyone who has negative posts regarding Bitbar will not be included! Sorry but this is a promotion. Only one giveaway to each member and each address. Thanks
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Take a look at the "Total Supply" chart of BitBar, and notice how it is sharply vertical during the day 1 instamine, and then levels off to nearly horizontal: http://cryptometer.org/bitbar_90_day_charts.html. That's a pretty strong indication that the distribution of the ownership of the coin is inequitable from the start, and no amount of mining is really going to change that. Compare that (at the same website, follow the links), to the "Total Supply" chart of coins like bitcoin, litecoin, digitalcoin, worldcoin, or any other coin where the Total Supply slope up much more gradually. Whatever those coins' flaws -- and there may be many -- they don't suffer from the same "almost everything was mined on day 1" problem +1; exactly. This is the worst coin released to date. Good ideas, terrible launch This is the same for Novacoin no? Correct me if I'm wrong. How is Novacoin doing now? No, it's not the same. NVC instamine (my rig mined 110k coins before difficulty stabilization, it's ~25% of current totalsupply) was destroyed publicly. I don't think that TruCoin/bitbardev capable to do something like this with their 2500+ BTBs instamine. Copy-paste and trolling the only things they are capable to do.  And you should remember that instamine causes another form of centralization, centralization by early adopters. It's deadly for PoS system because it turns currency into solidcoin. We have a couple of trusted wallets and the regular miners doesn't decide anything. You did a great thing by destroying those coins to allow Novacoin to move forward Balthazar. I was merely referring to the fact that both NVC and Bitbar have the same reward system, based on PPCoin. Whereas, basically, the lower the difficulty, the higher the reward, and vice versa. An instamine is unavoidable when using this system and starting from a very low difficulty. Hopefully bitbardev could do something similar to help bring more credibility to Bitbar. |
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bitbar did seem to have potential in the beginning, and the price showed up....that potential & promise was never fulfilled though.
I don't see how we can say that already. It's still in the top region of CoinChoose, the difficulty adjustment is perfect and fast and the maximum amount ever existing never changed. I think it's actually good for Bitbar price is dropping so fast and low. The people who mined many BTB at the start have 2 options: hold at low price and pray or sell quick before dropping lower. The diff adjustment will make it always (close to) profitable to mine I don't see why it can't go up again, once. I will buy a lot of BTB as soon as the price is right for me I agree. Bitbar is far from dead. The low starting difficulty/high block reward initially is why there are so many to sell. This is great for those of us that let them sell into our low bids. Anyone buying at these levels will not regret it. Bitbar is currently trading at 0.05 on 6/18/2013. I will come back to this thread in 12 months to prove that I was right. But in the mean time please panic sell all your bitbar so I can buy more at 0.05. BTB has a volume of 4.72919109 on Cryptsy over the last 24 hours. No one is buying bitbars... Then no one is selling either. |
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Take a look at the "Total Supply" chart of BitBar, and notice how it is sharply vertical during the day 1 instamine, and then levels off to nearly horizontal: http://cryptometer.org/bitbar_90_day_charts.html. That's a pretty strong indication that the distribution of the ownership of the coin is inequitable from the start, and no amount of mining is really going to change that. Compare that (at the same website, follow the links), to the "Total Supply" chart of coins like bitcoin, litecoin, digitalcoin, worldcoin, or any other coin where the Total Supply slope up much more gradually. Whatever those coins' flaws -- and there may be many -- they don't suffer from the same "almost everything was mined on day 1" problem. +1; exactly. This is the worst coin released to date. Good ideas, terrible launch This is the same for Novacoin no? Correct me if I'm wrong. How is Novacoin doing now? |
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Too much negative publicity about the day 1 insta-mining, caused by 2 or 3 very vocal members. That troll substrata and the other guy, I forget his name.
Insta-mining on day 1 of launch is actually commonplace. However when those insta-mined coins could be worth 0.5 bitcoins each, that's when the tears flow and people start throwing epic tantrums.
That said, the continuous difficulty adjustment means it will always be profitable to mine so long as there is an exchange and just a small amount of demand.
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and the other guy, I forget his name.
lol  Just got this joke too  |
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TruCoin killed it.
This. More reason than any. bitbar did seem to have potential in the beginning, and the price showed up....that potential & promise was never fulfilled though.
I don't see how we can say that already. It's still in the top region of CoinChoose, the difficulty adjustment is perfect and fast and the maximum amount ever existing never changed. I think it's actually good for Bitbar price is dropping so fast and low. The people who mined many BTB at the start have 2 options: hold at low price and pray or sell quick before dropping lower. The diff adjustment will make it always (close to) profitable to mine I don't see why it can't go up again, once. I will buy a lot of BTB as soon as the price is right for me Most of the bars are being held, only the weak and foolish are selling, probably mostly noob smalltime miners, dumping the small amount they have mined just to get a piece of the holy grail of a bitcoin. Yes now is not the time to buy, its sensible to put in bids and wait for it to fall further. But I think maybe it is near its bottom, the dumping has slowed over the last couple of days |
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You missed option on your poll. :Everyone bought into shitcoins, and their spending power went down in an Armada of sinking ships. Bitbar is like a submarine sitting under the radar, it slowly dived below as the other ships were destroyed, it silently waits, ready to rise when the shitstorm is over. Seriously, Bitbar is great, it was just released at the wrong time. Born in Coin War 1. But it lives  |
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Their vision ends at the horizon. The future does not exist to them, only the here and now.
This part of the forum has been hijacked by a team of scammers, only here to get rich quick from the continual release of their useless coins, which are quickly dumped at the fool's expense.
Nothing can go on here anymore unless they are directly involved.
It's such a shame that new ideas fall upon so many ignorant selfish ears here. It's very sad.
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I did see a massive failure the other day, in which sites were reporting the payout as 0, and the pools appeared to have mostly stopped at that time as well. I really want to see this develop into something more...but I'm not holding my breath. Did anyone ever get a paper wallet site up? That'd be a really nice step in the correct direction. That and getting this on more than just BTER and cryptsy...if BTC-e grabbed on...we'd have something pretty nice...but again, breathing normally, as I don't see this happening soon.
Wasn't the original idea that you could someday swap BTB for physical gold? If we can get someone with gold to offer it in exchange for BTB on a website...this would become a much more viable crypto. Until then, we'll see, but my hopes are dwindling. I might even be willing to run the website if someone has gold to back it, legitimately.
How many times have you told your friends, family, wife, girlfriend, kids, random people in the street, and anyone who you meet who you think may listen, about bitcoin? How many listened? How frustrated and foolish did this make you feel? Even though you were right all along!! And still they are not listening!!? Bitbar is to the crypto-community, as bitcoin is to that person you told, when you first discovered Bitcoin. I think the problem with the coin profitability sites is being fixed, I read about this earlier and it seems that the Bitbar developer has registered to this forum, and is getting actively involved, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=152515.msg2425717#msg2425717Don't get disheartened, innovation comes from the belief of the few, not the agreement of the masses. |
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Quoted from my post in neeeewbies Bitbar is not a failure, Bitbar is trading for 0.13 BTC each consistently at the moment on very low volume exchanges. There are only 3408 bars mined at the time of this post. I don't get why some people are so easy to ridicule this currency, the only conclusions which I can see are: 1. They actually really like the currency and would like to drive the price down, 'to buy it cheaper'. 2. They cant afford to buy as many Bitbars as they would like, so they try to drive the price down 'to buy it cheaper'. 3. They find it a threat to many of the shitcoins that have recently been spewed out over the last month or so, of which they have invested in, only to find they are now holding a bag of shit. Yes I am invested in Bitbar, and I dont think I am holding a 'bag of shit', yes I would like it, and believe, that it will succeed regardless in the long term, just like bitcoin and litecoin did in the face of ridicule. P.S. Trucoin, if you are reading this, I want no 'I LIKE YOUR STYLEEEEE!!!!' or shit like that. You in my eyes have done more harm to Bitbar than anyone on this forum. Maybe you should quit if you like your coin so much! PPS http://bitbar.biz/ is the official site, as listed on http://bitbar.info/index.php not the one Truecoin leads you to believe. |
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Bitbar is not a failure, Bitbar is trading for 0.13 BTC each consistently at the moment on very low volume exchanges. There are only 3408 bars mined at the time of this post. I don't get why some people are so easy to ridicule this currency, the only conclusions which I can see are: 1. They actually really like the currency and would like to drive the price down, 'to buy it cheaper'. 2. They cant afford to buy as many Bitbars as they would like, so they try to drive the price down 'to buy it cheaper'. 3. They find it a threat to many of the shitcoins that have recently been spewed out over the last month or so, of which they have invested in, only to find they are now holding a bag of shit. Yes I am invested in Bitbar, and I dont think I am holding a 'bag of shit', yes I would like it, and believe, that it will succeed regardless in the long term, just like bitcoin and litecoin did in the face of ridicule. P.S. Trucoin, if you are reading this, I want no 'I LIKE YOUR STYLEEEEE!!!!' or shit like that. You in my eyes have done more harm to Bitbar than anyone on this forum. Maybe you should quit if you like your coin so much! PPS http://bitbar.biz/ is the official site, as listed on http://bitbar.info/index.php not the one Truecoin leads you to believe. |
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