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Which country is the smallest in the world?
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Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 6 nodes
Date: 28/08/2013 22:09
To: 5X7EFLbQzyjvJ5ZgPw5vF1nxnoyisZFg81
Debit: -1.00 CGB
Transaction fee: -0.001 CGB
Net amount: -1.001 CGB
Transaction ID: 63d28fa84ecae86ab645865f1d00beeac992aeff8d396f7f22163d5923489608
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address quick!! someone!!! mscharleneb already posted and wins with that address sorry |
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What is the colour/color of a polar bears fur?
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First to answer correctly wins 1 CGB.
Post answer then your CGB address underneath.
Quiz starts on the hour, approx 20 mins time from now.
I will send to winning player, then post another question.
I will be doing 10 questions to start. They will all be general knowledge.
Quiz will be ongoing as I get time to do it.
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Kiliz lets make an example in dollar just couse coins values are realy abstract as long as there is no coint.
lets say everybody gets 1000 dollars a month. Then you as a worker get these 1000 and the money from work lets just say 2000 from work. then you have 3000 a month if you go and just let it wait until the year is over you still have 2400 from that. but if you work with that coins and spend them for anything you want you have more. and if you realy just wanna hold that value you can buy gold or whatever with it. so the money flows in the system is given and you have your money in gold ready to make money again when you need it. or you can put it into an investment and earn with it. but what you better not do is just let it be out of the system couse that is what brings deflation to a system. and deflation normaly end with higher deflation in the normal market that brings productions to produce less couse less peoples buy things. that brings more workless peoples. and so on and so on and in the end you have not enough products for the peoples couse noone buys and the system crashs.
This explains things a lot better, but what I can't see now, is why you would need to give everybody (in your example) 1000 dollars. This just encourages people to do nothing and to just live off that per month, decreasing the workforce and production. Also why would you need a new currency to implement this, as all you would need is a change to the monetary system, to follow these guidelines, and for everyone to agree to this system, and not cause complete anarchy. I do now see your point, and it is quite interesting as you would have a set amount of monetary units available, with the incentive for people to spend their earnings, and if they wish invest in something which would hold that value. This would keep the money supply flowing, ('To pass the buck could be its tag line'  ) and decreasing the need for inflation. Hmmm very interesting but near impossible to implement......without the current system crashing and burning completely first  !! |
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[/quote] Oh I think you have to reread 1.st there is a part that goes to the miners 2.nd if you just hold your coins and dont want to spent them then the decrease makes your amount smaler until you are back to the point where you get the same coins + that you get decreased.There are 3 ways to get more from the curency 1st is mining and get extra coins that way 2nd is getting them from other users 3rd spend coins to fall under the limit where you get more + then decreasethe limit is not planed to be that high and there will be peoples in it with more coins and peoples that have only the limit line coins but the peoples wich want to have more have to do something for it permanently, and not just do somthing and let them be coins for years. In the moment you stop doing something for having more, you start to get more and more to the limit over the time. The exact values for decrease and everything else have to be discussed to find the right ones the values in the example where just 1st thoughts about the highs not final values like nearly anything in that idea. Thats why it is an Idea discusion thread not a promotion of a finished coin. And trust me or not It will not be a communist curency, couse that system dont work. Peoples need to have the possibility to earn to have more then others, but peoples also need a secure base to be free in decision if they want to earn more or not. thanks for adding in your news.
But the most importand question for me is still open, what possibility is there to get a auth for 1 natural person 1 getting account, about a way to implement that in a as anonym as possible way we can think after we have found something that works. So feel free to bring in any Idea on that.[/quote] Ok so the workers work hard for a better living, so jobless and lazy lowlifes can receive an unlimited income for doing absolutely nothing, and your savings for retirement are dwindled away. Sounds very familiar, sorry not interested The bottom part I don't understand |
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Hello
Crypto Currencies are on there way to get there fixed place in the world. But this brings us to a few problems. Couse of the anonym charakter of coins there is no tax for the states and the normal currencies (dollar,euro,..) are on there way to a system crash. So that can be a point where crypto coins can get real big in the world.
But what do we have then? A financial System without taxes, that means no state. No Police, no Streetbuilding, no social care, simple and clear pure Anarchie. I think thats the last thing peoples like to have.
So here is the Plan:
Lets discuss together of how a coin has to be to realy work as a big world leading curency with all the things that it needs, a pool to pay states taxes, a social system to bring the more and more mechanical done work to a benefit to all not to a few, a max coin value that increases with the users and so on.
Everybody who is interrested in such a discussion is invited to come to socialcoin.freeforums.org.
The main Problem to solve at the moment is: How to become a worldwide working 1 social coins getting account for 1 user authentication, mutliple accounts for normal use have to be possible. So if someone has an idea on that it would be nice to share
There is one big point that is being missed here. Money isn't taxed! It is the goods, services, wages of the workers etc, that are taxed. Even if lets say a cryptocurrency is adopted in the future to replace a nations fiat currency. It will, and can be taxed in some way. You will go to work to earn this currency and be taxed. You will buy things in the store and be taxed. You will still pay tax on fuel, cigarettes, alcohol. This won't change. These currencies only give back power to the people over their own wealth. Governments may fall, banks may end up being, well...bankrupt, and the nation where you live may well be overthrown by anarchy for a while, if it isn't already. But eventually you will be taxed someday, somehow by somebody. Edit: P.S. We already have what you are proposing, its called 'the current fiat monetary system', what are you? A banker? A President? A King? A Queen? Are you realising you may be about to fall off the ladder? You can't beat us, so come join us  Thanks for the statement there is much truth in it, the point that is not taxed is the money itself. That is a problem couse I want the System work for the masses, I think every person should have the same right to make work for a better life or even not. So i dont like the concept of born rich stay rich, born poor stay poor. What is also not taxable with coins is speculations with coins. Thats same we have today. Couse of more and more technologie killing working places and the difference beetween born in a rich land or poor land, a system needs something like a money for everyone thats why i need a way for an authentication to have 1 account per person to get that money. But dont worry I dont want everybody to have the same amount all the time, that cant work. Everybody must be able to become more if he works more. But just couse a grand grand Father worked more, no everybody has to work for his own status. I dont want peoples to stay rich over generations couse they are rich one time. Equal chances for everybody. I know the most peoples think if you pay free money to anyone noone want to work, but the point is most peoples dont want to stay at home all day. They want to make something, some produce Musik, others Arts, others like Programming, the next ones like to work on cars. with free money to everyone noone has to have a bad paid work that makes him ill. Everyone can decide if he wants to make what he is good in or if he dont find something in that buisnes something where he can say hey I earn enough so i like to do. That is realy good for the cultural healthy and has the effekt that the peoples in more poor countries get the same standart the peoples in rich countries have. 1% of each coin mined gets sold and donated to a charity automatically
sound nice but the problem there is what kind of charity to choose. Ok and a small update about an interresting chat talk about that: 1. Clients can mine automaticaly in a small way so the 51% problem is not that big. 2. all coins paid out instantly and a fixed amount of coins for every new athented account comes to the pool. not to that account directly, it will be added to the decreased coins and this value goes for a big part to the masses. So the System has more coins in it with more users. 3. an % transaktion fee brings the spekulation tax to the users. most users make + with that, only the big fishs give parts of there winnings to the masses that way. at the moment the idea is like that 20-40% degree per year and about 2% transaction fee. Payout like that: the to the masses part has to give monthly the rate of the initial added ammount. Then a part goes to a foundation this foundation in the start is for helping the coin growing, and then after it reached a good size, for making votes for giving away coins. no ok of the masses no coints paid. (thats where charity projekts could get something from, or open source research, thinks that help the humanity) and then a small part to the miners as a king of thank you from the masses. There are enough coins for mining buisness, noone needs a new one for that. As anyone can see that idea is not for making money, with that degree the money on nearly all accounts is on an even level if noone does anything from the beginning to the moment the coin is tradeable. its just a little social help for the world. just something I can do to try to make the world a bit better.( I know i am crazy sometimes ) Ok don't think that I am trolling you because I am not. What you are basically saying is, you want to create a communist currency, where everyone gets the same share, whether they are rich or poor. Sorry, but who is going to mine it if say X has 1Gh of mining power, and Y has 1Mh but they both get the same share. Will all the coins be premined, and handed out accordingly? If everyone has the same share, then no-one will want to spend any as they will be poorer than the person they gave them to. This will only end up with there being Rich people who were more carefull with their coins, and poor people who weren't. These people will go on to have families in which their children will be born into, Rich families and Poor families, and there you have it, back at square one. See what I am saying? |
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Hello
Crypto Currencies are on there way to get there fixed place in the world. But this brings us to a few problems. Couse of the anonym charakter of coins there is no tax for the states and the normal currencies (dollar,euro,..) are on there way to a system crash. So that can be a point where crypto coins can get real big in the world.
But what do we have then? A financial System without taxes, that means no state. No Police, no Streetbuilding, no social care, simple and clear pure Anarchie. I think thats the last thing peoples like to have.
So here is the Plan:
Lets discuss together of how a coin has to be to realy work as a big world leading curency with all the things that it needs, a pool to pay states taxes, a social system to bring the more and more mechanical done work to a benefit to all not to a few, a max coin value that increases with the users and so on.
Everybody who is interrested in such a discussion is invited to come to socialcoin.freeforums.org.
The main Problem to solve at the moment is: How to become a worldwide working 1 social coins getting account for 1 user authentication, mutliple accounts for normal use have to be possible. So if someone has an idea on that it would be nice to share
There is one big point that is being missed here. Money isn't taxed! It is the goods, services, wages of the workers etc, that are taxed. Even if lets say a cryptocurrency is adopted in the future to replace a nations fiat currency. It will, and can be taxed in some way. You will go to work to earn this currency and be taxed. You will buy things in the store and be taxed. You will still pay tax on fuel, cigarettes, alcohol. This won't change. These currencies only give back power to the people over their own wealth. Governments may fall, banks may end up being, well...bankrupt, and the nation where you live may well be overthrown by anarchy for a while, if it isn't already. But eventually you will be taxed someday, somehow by somebody. Edit: P.S. We already have what you are proposing, its called 'the current fiat monetary system', what are you? A banker? A President? A King? A Queen? Are you realising you may be about to fall off the ladder? You can't beat us, so come join us |
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10m worth of sell orders about to be put into GLD very soon! Please buy GLD I've put everything into it and about to become very poor lol
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My pleasure, now spend a few to hire someone to correct the mistake in the word 'Fondation' hahaha Take care |
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Thank you all for your continued adoption and support of CB! With regard to Killiz question, we have begun a CB Foundation Fund if anyone in the community wants to donate to help fund growth and prosperity for CB. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274154.new#newThank you all! The CB family continues to grow in size, stability and strength! We are a train that continues to pick up steam! Get on board or get run over! Ok thanks elambert, I must of missed this post somehow. I will be making a small donation toward ongoing developement. Thanks for all your hard work. P.S. Just before I donate, can you confirm that the donation address 5kjx1krRwnn77LuTP8B2qb1cxwgkumBqgP is still accessible by yourselves, as it doesn't seem to have been used for any donations yet It should be alright, Killiz. Ok thanks Merc Sorry for the delay. Yes, this is the correct address for the foundation: 5kjx1krRwnn77LuTP8B2qb1cxwgkumBqgP I will keep a public ledger in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274154.msg2937787#msg2937787Ok, I have made a small donation, its not a lot, as I had to pull it out of my cryptsy balance, and don't want to touch the funds in my qt client because I'm 23 days in since my last POS. Anyway it may help you a lot in the coming weeks and months as it gains value. Just a small token of gratitude for the work you are doing. Killiz |
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Thank you all for your continued adoption and support of CB! With regard to Killiz question, we have begun a CB Foundation Fund if anyone in the community wants to donate to help fund growth and prosperity for CB. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274154.new#newThank you all! The CB family continues to grow in size, stability and strength! We are a train that continues to pick up steam! Get on board or get run over! Ok thanks elambert, I must of missed this post somehow. I will be making a small donation toward ongoing developement. Thanks for all your hard work. P.S. Just before I donate, can you confirm that the donation address 5kjx1krRwnn77LuTP8B2qb1cxwgkumBqgP is still accessible by yourselves, as it doesn't seem to have been used for any donations yet It should be alright, Killiz. Ok thanks Merc |
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Thank you all for your continued adoption and support of CB! With regard to Killiz question, we have begun a CB Foundation Fund if anyone in the community wants to donate to help fund growth and prosperity for CB. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274154.new#newThank you all! The CB family continues to grow in size, stability and strength! We are a train that continues to pick up steam! Get on board or get run over! Ok thanks elambert, I must of missed this post somehow. I will be making a small donation toward ongoing developement. Thanks for all your hard work. P.S. Just before I donate, can you confirm that the donation address 5kjx1krRwnn77LuTP8B2qb1cxwgkumBqgP is still accessible by yourselves, as it doesn't seem to have been used for any donations yet |
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Once again great stuff CB Dev team!
Anyone who has used Google AdWords will know this can be quite costly initially. To get your advertising to a level where your ads are being noticed can involve quite a significant budget, if you are looking for immediate results.
With AdWords the more you put in to the budget, the larger the exposure Google gives you in advertising banners and links.
This is a great idea, and I would like ask if you will be accepting donations in CB towards this campaign? I think, if done properly, this sort of advertising campaign could bring a much wider audience to CB, and be very beneficial to other Alt currencies as a whole.
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There are only 1 million to be mined, and in only under 9 months, at the present time to mine them, after this the POS will kick in to keep the blockchain moving, even if the miners drop off, (although there will still be a block reward for miners of 0.01 CGB per block, which at the ''then'' price should be enough incentive to mine) and around 25000 per year will be awarded as Proof Of Stake interest to those which are holding. Or if you use the same PoS code as allmost every other coin, you just create forks and stuck blockchains. Yeah, no forks or stuck blockchains with CB. When I said this ^^, I never meant, or thought that the miners would drop off to zero, that just ain't going to happen, there will always be hashing power behind CB. As MercSuey said earlier in this thread, the Dev team have up 20mh designated to mining CB, to help prevent this happening. It would only take a handful of miners with decent hashing power to double this, and the block reward may be, at that time, profitable enough to give incentive for miners to carry on mining. Lets just see how this plays out, and if indeed you are right about this, as we approach this point, see how things are and come up with a solution. Instead of spreading FUD, why not do something useful with yourself and post an idea of how you see this being prevented. |
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