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7321  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Should we be concerned about EM emissions? on: August 19, 2013, 06:33:37 PM
Short answer, no. Not unless you're running something highly sensitive to EM. And if you're not sure, you're not.
7322  Other / Archival / Re: Butterfly Labs 500 GH mini-rig -- In Hand Now on: August 19, 2013, 02:33:43 PM
Can we get an update of the actual price? This silent auction thing is a bit silly.

Edit: Seller is hostile, I wouldn't trust him.
7323  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 80GH/s Avalon Batch #2 IN-HAND, Motivated Seller - 50 BTC on: August 19, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
46 shipped and escrowed (UK)
7324  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Avalon Batch #2 3 module miner running at 360MHz, CKolivas firmware 120BTC on: August 19, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
Like mine, 45
7325  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 19, 2013, 01:25:39 AM
I really don't understand how people's units get so hot. Mine run at 49C with minimum fan rpms (nearly)



how cold is your room in the first place?
Ambient 22-28

well maybe not the entire civilised world is in the US, so of us have ambient temps higher than that
I'm in the UK. If your ambient is warmer than 28C consistently, you might want to consider relocating your mining.
7326  Economy / Auctions / Re: [360 GH of Mining Hardware] on: August 18, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
I thought that OC doesn't apply to new blades.
Its still the old blades, new are delayed.
Does anyone have them for immediate delivery or is it still GB only?
There is a regional distributor typically in hand, but might be a few days away.
7327  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [Sale Pending] - In hand BFL 470GH/S Mini Rig on: August 18, 2013, 10:23:52 PM
What price is this pending at?
7328  Economy / Auctions / Re: 500 GH/S BFL Mini rig unit number 2 (already received unit number 1) on: August 18, 2013, 10:15:34 PM
Wouldn't pay this price even if it was in hand, which its not.
7329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Guide] Comprehensive ASICMiner Blade Setup on: August 18, 2013, 08:12:13 PM
I set up 4 blades perfect no problems. now i have a 5th blade and its showing 4 O and the rest X.

i get 12v at the green terminal when unplugged from blade. Drops to 9v when connected to blade.

I am not measuring anything to each power lane. maybe my multimeter wont go down that low but thats what its doing.

is 9v fine to the blade when operating or does that hint to power board issue
No 9V isnt fine, it means your power supply can't take that many.
7330  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC just posted pics of their case, PCB samples coming next week \o/ on: August 18, 2013, 08:11:41 PM
Nice to see you totally ignored how I proved TDP in that test was 175W 75% of the time.

Um, no you didn't. A screenshot of a graph with no Y axis labels proves exactly nothing.  Especially since it doesn't even show the temperature going up by more then 70% over 41C, yet the article claims the temp was 79C.

It doesn't particularly work that way in heatsinks, that cooling power is higher at 90C. The limit of heatsinks is the immediate transfer of energy from the base plate to the cooling fins, where THEN the cooling is increased. Heatpipes max out pretty quickly,

Every part of the heatsink moves energy more efficiently when the thermal gradient is higher. Heatpipes, fins, etc. Thermal conductivity is measured in W/m^2 K because as temprature differences increases so does heat flow. It's a straight linear relationship.   Nothing can "max out" on heat transfer, unless it burns or goes through a chemical reaction and turns into another substance. (like from diamond to graphite)

Seriously, you're just proving over and over again you have zero clue when it comes to thermodynamics.

Dear Non Engineer,

You don't have a clue about any of the technical information in this thread. Again you're just dismissing the logic spelt out line by line with the sentiment "they must be getting it right".

tldr: Greed/desperation > logic.

WTF are you talking about?  You haven't done any "engineering" or said anything "logical" all you did was post a random screenshot of a graph with no labels and that doesn't even match up with the other numbers and claimed.... something.

LOL so much fail in this post. I linked you to an impartial review, and you're dismissing it as if it was specifically written to backup my statement. Yes, that graph is definitely wrong isnt it *sigh*

No, it doesn't work that way in a heatpipe based super tower. Heatpipes do max out, it gets to the point where the working fluid can't condense again.

As I've said many times, you're really clueless and its not worth arguing with. You turn real science into "it must be a shill". Leaving you ignored now.

7331  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 18, 2013, 06:56:51 PM
I really don't understand how people's units get so hot. Mine run at 49C with minimum fan rpms (nearly)



how cold is your room in the first place?
Ambient 22-28
7332  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 18, 2013, 04:04:58 PM
I really don't understand how people's units get so hot. Mine run at 49C with minimum fan rpms (nearly)

7333  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: {BFL} Why The Monarch Might Just Work on: August 18, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
How can you believe a word they say, after everything? Stockholm?
7334  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 11:00:47 PM
I'm actually most disappointed that GigaVPS sold out... they pushed his minirig orders ahead so he could give them some asslicking testimonial to scam newbies... so sick.
7335  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC just posted pics of their case, PCB samples coming next week \o/ on: August 17, 2013, 10:44:55 PM
I dunno, I run an Arctic A30, with the supplied fan (which only does 1100rpm full speed) cooling a FX8320 overclocked to 4.5GHz.  That chip pumps out a LOT of heat.  The fan is slow.  Adding a decent fan would obviously cool the heatsink a lot more than the silent one supplied in the box.

I think their ASICs would need to be pumping out a ridiculous amount of heat to overwhelm an A30.  It's a ridiculously big unit - mine is hard against the side panel of my Fractal Define XL case, that's how big it is.
Which on 100% theoretical OC'ed load is still only 150-175W. But actual games/other uses never 100%. Now more than double that heat output.
7336  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 17, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
someone suggested to remove the whole back plate (with the 2 fan holes in it), he said he got 2°C better temperatures with that. Disadvantage is that you can't fix the PSU with screws then.
It would reduce 'back' pressure, and so increase the airflow for same rpm/noise further. Makes sense
7337  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KNC just posted pics of their case, PCB samples coming next week \o/ on: August 17, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
somebody please put down this dog.
Again, rather than actually refuse my claims directly you just dismiss them nonchalantly. No problem, I don't have KNC preorders. Ignore away.
7338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 17, 2013, 06:59:16 PM
I can't imagine this would make a significant difference.
@ Dogie

If you use tape then you remove a bit of cooling surface from being effective. If you do it for alot of different holes, (bottom, top, sides, then that is a significant amount. You may cause unnecessary insulation on the aluminum surfaces.

*doesn't understand thermodynamics, post ignored*
Very cheeky,



Look, you covered the top of the heatsink in tape. That creates a minor hot spot inside the heatsink (along the top). Why? That would be because the tape is not allowing the top surface of the aluminum heatsink to come in contact with air. Therefore part of the heatsink will retain heat unevenly.

Don't quote thermodynamics if you didn't even notice that much. Cheesy Roll Eyes
The reduction in surface area is negligible compared to the now increased air flow at same fan rpms. Velocity increases >> tiny surface area decrease.
7339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 06:53:40 PM
Link to the ACTUAL announcement
7340  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [MOD] Proposed Avalon noise reduction/cooling increase for B1/B2/B3 on: August 17, 2013, 04:24:04 PM
I can't imagine this would make a significant difference.
@ Dogie

If you use tape then you remove a bit of cooling surface from being effective. If you do it for alot of different holes, (bottom, top, sides, then that is a significant amount. You may cause unnecessary insulation on the aluminum surfaces.

*doesn't understand thermodynamics, post ignored*
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