You said it yourself, and if bounty hunters were honest about themselves, this is exactly what they do. I have talked to several of them actually, mainly because of Telegram. And they are all the same. They say different things outside, but when they want me to join something, and if you look at all the bounty channels. There are there for 1 thing only. Make money asap.

You think the first people to sell when tokens list on exchanges are investors? Apart from project people, 100% the first sellers are bounty hunters. Seek yourself the proof. Raid the threads for ETH addresses and look up Etherscan.

I hated Telegram because it caused me so much spam, and when I recently joined a group, actually by Amazix, to join 2 projects as a requirement for participating in the group, guess what,,, all the spam came back. Worse, random people messaging me wanting to be friends, and then scammers pretended to be group admins and asked me to send ETH for "bonus"!

Great tips, if more people followed these, the experience would be better. People should merit posts like this. I will add here, 1 more tip: Use scambots to detect scammers and whitelist. So you protect your communities.

I only did a few ICOS, and sadly all of them failed, in terms of price, if you do not count the bull run. I still hold all of them,,, and they are always moving ahead with development but I have been disappointed in general because none of them are things I can really use. So I learned my lesson about these things and this year only took in tokens that I can earn from instead of just using, like so-called security tokens, for dividends.

What makes me sad is those scam ICOs or projects that do nothing, made people money. Like EOS. Come on.

Bounty hunters do not care? Of course they are,,, Back in January, they were shilling and doing automated work for thousands of dollars. If you do not believe me, look up the old bounty threads and check the token prices then. And they were a lot of multi accounts at work,,, check out all the ETH addresses sending tokens to each other.

So they were used to making 10k 20k USD for nothing, and now they are doing the same things and earning a few dollars. You can see them complaining all over this forum.

I hope people all stay away from crypto, not just altcoins but even for Bitcoin,,, I am perfectly fine with waiting until 2020 and I have said it even last year and during the bull runs, because I am not done collecting and hoarding! If I can have this year and 2019 still buying my small amounts whenever I can, and at the low low prices,,, I can rest easy in 2020 onwards just waiting for all of the coins to achieve more usage, more security, better platforms, etc.

And then,,, I can start thinking about selling some.

Same here! I actually do not know much about Zen at all, but Waves is of all of them the one with the best developers, not because I think their technical skills are better than others but because they focus always on the technological development and not the marketing. This is unlike NEO at least, who does a lot of marketing.

Waves tokens are still being created and used, and slowly you can see volumes building up, all this even though price cannot really climb high. Always below $5 for a long time except in the bull, means to be stable price for a great coin and great platform.

This is still not enough. You can use Litecoin in ten times more, Dash, Monero in many more, even you can use Dogecoin in more places, and the point is, XRP having 3 companies is all because of their marketing.

But you are right, as long as merchant adoption starts and grows, then the altcoin has hope. This is still a big problem for XRP that even with all the push and marketing they cannot do much. xRapid is live but no one is using it. Unlike Lightning Network were still beta testing but many shops.

OK, just to update here, I finally got my GREM tokens. I was afraid I would not see it before market listing,,, but at least they are now sitting in my wallet nicely. Just read the update that GREM only distribute dividends after 1 year, so in fact I will wait a few months to see if their properties really take off, and to see income from there. I have a feeling in 10 months when they distribute first GREM dividends for the annual time,,, we will see a lot of people happy with their decision. The bull may be back by then too. So who knows.

Staking is an old idea. Those who got in early of course made a lot of profits during the bull run but if you look long term at POS coins,,, you almost see that mainly their value slowly erodes over time, because of course people will sell their interest from staked coins, just until they gain back their investment. Many will continue to stake until they have 2x or 3x compounded coins, before selling again. Seems like a good idea at first until you see everything drop.

There is no trick and no secret. Everything stops working after a while.

There is only one monster that is sleeping now in the world of >2000 cryptocoins and that is the one and only Bitcoin. Say whatever you want, point to all the coins that x10 or x100 but Bitcoin x100000 and never looked back,,, only now it is in deep sleep and waiting to reemerge from the darkness to show the rest of crypto how it is done.

I entered some alts at <90% ath thinking I was smart and some still lost 50% value! Of course come the alt season I can be happy again. But let us not think this is an easy "game".

Bawa bersabar ya kekawan semua,,, sudah lama diberitahu bahawa penjualan token hanya bermula di awal Q4, dan akhirnya kami sudah masuk Q4 2018 pada hari ini. Sementara itu, saya nasihati, bacalah dan sebarkan semua updates dari blog dan social media mereka, pastinya pasaran kripto pun akan pulih kembali dalam beberapa bulan ini. Hasilnya sudah tentu lebih ramai yang berminat mengikuti perkembangan selanjutnya dari Mobilebridge dan mungkin juga membeli token dalam penjualannya nanti

Forex markets are huge and by far the most liquid globally. Almost any major and even smaller currency has big orderbooks, so you can fill orders very fast, and they swing quite a lot too if you look at Asian/USD or Asian Euro pairs. I do not generally advise trading for anyone, but forex is actually "more predictable" to events than crypto.

Cryptoforex you maybe only refer to forex brokers who accept crypto. In which case, there are plenty. Big ones all do nowadays.

I am a long time Waves supporter but I think we should not read too much into this week's growth. Simply because the entire market has been improving, every alt is making 5-10% and some even more. The day Waves continuously grows despite whatever is happening to the crypto market is when we can say it is truly making movements in a positive direction.

Confidence and patience. We know the platform is always being developed. We know the volume is increasing and tokens are coming on. So those are long-term signs of positivity.

It is not that it is bad or it is good,,, this is the simple fact of the crypto market that so many people do not understand or refuse to accept. I like some alt projects, we all do, but the problem is people just do not get that Bitcoin is crypto and crypto is Bitcoin. 99% of governments and banks understand this, and the market does as well. We can talk all day about how great a token or alt is, but the fact is, not one of them has the power and status of Bitcoin.

It will take time for recognition. It took Bitcoin 10 years! So just accept it for now.

Well done to LFC Bitcoin for being the only one to get 1.5 points from first game. You deserve 3 points but West Ham had to score another one. My god, I predicted only 1 goal,,, but I guess West Ham found out how to score again, Pellegrini looked so happy, the fans all looked so happy, 60,000 of them.

I kept betting draw for United but I thought they had to win this one. Looks like I was wrong.

Certainty in the market is only one, which is that nothing is certain. We all are hoping for green markets but the reality is that we can drop much further, much quicker, before anythiing else.

All these rises have been false so far, and we are,,, remember,,, only not done with Q3. If the talk about long years of bear market being in place, before the next big bull run, then we are not even halfway there yet.

Good news? Keep buying at low price!

Wow,,, so there are people who actually believe that if price goes up in the extreme, then the coin is better than Bitcoin or other altcoins? Do you even realize this is called a pump? And right now we are seeing a dump? If you create billions of tokens, and most of them are locked up or being held by founders, like XRP, of course you will have second place with all the marketing.

You are totally kidding yourself if you think this makes it better than other coins.

My advice is start looking, reading and learning for yourself,,, even legendaries here do not necessarily mean anything. Just look at speculation sections and see everybody whining about price or complaining about bounty, meaning they are in this business for a long time but do not make less mistakes than we do.

Also, stop occupying your time with just price and money. Spend the time to improve your own knowledge. Make your own knowledge and share it. Blockchain is young, crypto is young, and market is hurting from too much speculation.

Sounds really exciting guys,,, but why did you choose Ethereum blockchain? Yes, I know it is easy to make tokens and all the game dapps showed us how good smart contracts can be for games, but you know also that it only takes 100 players or so to entirely clog up the network right? Or maybe even 10 hardcore players and gas prices will be insane.

Try another fast and cheap blockchain perhaps.

Well, if you look at the old P2P loan platforms, you will see plenty of people took out loans in BTC,,, and then what happened next is they mostly defaulted. I think in the end people realized it was better to make 10 accounts and make small loans that people would think is high interest bearing. Then make a couple of payments and then disappear. Reputations did not matter since these were mainly fake accounts anyway.

Make a loan from a reputable company, then you are forced to make a proper business plan.