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761  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: PNS & ASN on: September 28, 2023, 09:41:32 AM
Jika merujuk pada Undang-Undang Nomor 5 Tahun 2014 tentang Aparatur Sipil Negara, maka wajar jika teman agan tidak dipecat sebagai PNS karena dalam UU ASN salah satu poinnya yang tertera bahwa seorang PNS bisa dipecat jika dihukum penjara berdasarkan keputusan Pengadilan yang sudah mempunyai kekuatan hukum yang tetap, karena dengan sengaja melakukan suatu tindak pidana kejahatan yang diancam dengan pidana penjara 4 tahun atau lebih berat. Maka dari itu sangat wajar mengapa teman agan tidak dipecat karena hanya dihukum 2 tahun penjara.

Tapi Ane baca di CNBC disebutkan bahwa hukuman pidana penjara paling singkat 2 (dua) tahun dan pidana yang dilakukan tidak berencana maka PNS itu sudah dapat diberhentikan dari statusnya sebagai aparatur negara. Apakah Benar PNS Susah Dipecat? Begini Penjelasannya.

Namun dalam kasus seperti yang disebutkan oleh agan bluesnow, meskipun UU nya berkata demikian namun faktor di lapangan itu sangat berbeda sekali. Ane yakin apa yang agan bluesnow lihat adalah realita sebenarnya yang terjadi di lapangan. PNS itu sangat sulit sekali dipecat. Apalagi jika sang oknum PNS itu punya banyak bekingan orang dalam di pemerintahan. Paling-paling hanya pencopotan jabatan atau dimutasi. Ditambah lagi aturan ini hanya tidak diketahui oleh publik yang artinya selama oknum PNS itu cukup powerful maka hukuman yang diterima hanya dipenjara saja.
762  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: September 28, 2023, 05:31:08 AM
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763  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: September 27, 2023, 07:55:23 AM
In around 2 weeks time, the next round of matches are going to start. Group A is looking very interesting, with Spain now at the no.2 position. Norway has only 7 points from 5 matches and unless a miracle happens, they may fail to qualify for the main tournament. In Group B, it is still a fight between Greece and Netherlands for the second spot, with the latter having an advantage. In Group C, it's between Italy and Ukraine. Apart from these groups, it is now more or less clear about who will qualify to the main tournament from the other groups.

Honestly, I really regret that Haaland will not have the opportunity to play in the UEFA or FIFA World Cup. Unlike Portugal which has history and tradition in world football history, Norway is the same as Wales or even less so. Sorry if this is off topic but honestly when watching the Norway match I thought it was very sad when you have to carry your team alone.
764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 27, 2023, 06:27:19 AM

The big club would prefer to take young fully talented player. Just like real madrid was recruiting kepa instead of him. He shall have aware about that once he saw kepa joined real madrid as a new goal keeper.
His era already ended. I hope de gea aware. His chance is literally small to joining in the big club right now.

Saudi Arabia Pro League will be one of the best leagues in the world in the future. I think De Gea should be aware of this fact. The joining of several big stars there will attract talented young players to compete there. Who doesn't want a high salary? Of course it is very tempting when a young player has a salary equivalent to top European players. I am very confident that in the future the SPL will be on par with the top European leagues.
765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 27, 2023, 06:18:22 AM


Today Napoli will face Udinese. And the history of meetings between the two always shows positive results for Napoli. Udinese have not won once against Napoli in the last 5 meetings. And now Udinese must come to Napoli's home ground. So Napoli should be the favorite here. Maybe we have to see whether in this match Napoli can restore their confidence or not.

Udinese is a team in the degradation Zone. They have never won at all. I'm 70% sure it will be an easy win for Napoli. I bet on Napoli in this match. A draw in the last two matches will not affect Napoli's performance because the opponents they will face are easy opponents. I'm not disparaging Udinese but I'm just talking on numbers and statistics.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 27, 2023, 06:05:21 AM
Even Barcelona got 1 point, I think it was a bad result. Barcelona has better players and they need 3 points to maintain their position (leading La Liga standings). Since they failed to get 3 points, Barcelona is probably no longer leading the La Liga standings tomorrow. However, the competition is still far from the end, so it is not a big problem to fail maintaining 1st place now.
So far, even though the difference in points between Barcelona and Girona is quite small, it can only make Barcelona go down temporarily even if Girona can get points over Villareal. Meanwhile, Barcelona only needs to expand the range of their game with a supply of ideal players and enough strikers to rotate, so for Xavi it will not be as difficult as Girona to rotate players.

Maybe Real Madrid or Girona will replace Barca as leaders of the standings. But that won't take long. Barcelona currently has a big chance of winning the La Liga trophy. I admit that Girona is a great club. But the match has only been running for 7 matches. Still far from halfway through the season. There will be many challenges that Girona must face, one of which is player rotation. Madrid this season is not at Barcelona's level I think. Even the odds are not in their favor in the match against Napoli. So a draw against Mallorca will not affect Barca's consistency in winning the title.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 27, 2023, 05:56:59 AM
Correct, it is not as if the ceiling is going down what is happening is that the floor is going up, so in the past Brazil could destroy all other teams except those which were at the top with them as their level was too low, however with an improvement of training techniques and copying the techniques of the strongest nations around the world the other countries are catching up, however Brazil still is at the top simply because of their long tradition as a powerful soccer team.

This could also happen because Brazil already has many world-class stars and players in its country. That's what makes children in Brazil dream of becoming great footballers. They can idolize players from their own country. And because these great players also come from Favella, it is a motivation for other children. Second, Brazil and football are like one unit. Just like the US with basketball. In Brazil, limited space and economic conditions make football the only sport that can be played by everyone.
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 27, 2023, 05:40:13 AM

The squad played even worst during the second half. I think that poch shall try to do some rotations like put colmer on 10.
Sterling is always playing as bad as always. No reason to use him anymore in upcoming fixtures. Chelsea needs to do something to help itself from the relegation zone. This is disgusting result. It's not even closer to the 2022 performance. This is far below than it.

Chelsea at the moment is the worst I have ever seen. Very bad game. After the match Pochettino also highlighted the misfortune experienced by Chelsea in this match. I think this is nonsense. Whatever the outcome, for me, defeat is still defeat. 3 defeats from the opening 6 matches is the first time since 2015. Chelsea have failed to score in 13 of their matches during 2023, which is the second worst after 1995.
769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 27, 2023, 05:31:58 AM
Looking at the betting markets have displayed the odds for the Champions League match that interests me is the Napoli vs Real Madrid match.

Here it seems that Napoli are favored by the bookies even though it doesn't differ much from the odds of the two, for me it is clear that Real Madrid will remain the favorites even though they have experienced problems in their attack and about yesterday's shock defeat in LaLiga, there is news that Vinicus has recovered and can play but this is not yet valid news.

To be honest I'm not sure Napoli will win, but a draw is possible, need to think about the right bet I want to find Vinicius information first.

Napoli is favored by the bookie to win the match. I think this is a good thing for me because I will gain a lot by betting on Madrid. I'm sure Madrid will win the match. Even though they have just experienced defeat in the League, this is not a problem because Madrid has a good record against teams from Italy. I sorted the results of these matches in the order that Madrid wins, or draws, or Napoli wins.
770  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 27, 2023, 05:14:35 AM

I will rephrase a bit my post. It is not really that I want Tony to win (if fact I just really want him to retire already), but I want Paddy to lose Cheesy Just replace Tony with other fighter and I would cheer him to win. Maybe Paddy isnt a bad guy IRL, but I really dont like his "Im a big star" behaviour without actually having a strong opponent. Dont like that UFC tried to create a huge star from him. In general, his achievements in UFC does not match his king status Cheesy

Should we move on to next event or it is kinda a filler before real events? Cheesy

Maybe the UFC wants to make Paddy a big star like McGregor. But looking at Paddy now I don't think that's possible. Paddy doesn't have the aura of a star yet. Even though he plays McGregor in the UFC, in my opinion it is Sean Omalley who shines more. But for UFC, Sean doesn't have Trashtalk like McGregor, while Paddy does. I think the UFC is confused by this because there hasn't been a star like The Notorius.
771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: September 27, 2023, 05:05:07 AM


It's too inconsistent, it has no plan and tactic. Everything about chelsea is about the club that may be relegated.



Chelsea are really very bad from all sides. It's a shame when they have actually spent a lot of money to bring in players. If it's United we can see the shortcomings in their defense, but Chelsea as a whole is very, very bad. But I don't think Chelsea will be relegated. They have many players at English Premier League level, not championship level. I just hope Chelsea can stay in the league this season and hope the players can find chemistry in the game.
772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 26, 2023, 05:20:11 AM
Sorry if this is off topic. A few days ago I watched the Rodtang vs Superlek match and I was very excited about the match. There's a lot I want to discuss about ONE Championship, or MMA in general. Can anyone give me a link that discusses MMA in general and not just UFC? A thread as active as this UFC thread? Thank You,
773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread on: September 25, 2023, 10:06:21 AM
and for me even if Ferguson won this fight for me I want to see him retire,



I agree with you. It's time for Ferguson to retire. I think a match against Oliveira or Dariush should be his last match. This means that Oliveira and Dariush are two competitive fighters who are on par with Ferguson in his prime. It is very unpleasant to see Ferguson having to face opponents just to increase their ranking.
774  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽ on: September 25, 2023, 09:45:06 AM
This is the second time I've watched Chelsea game this season and I must say that I'm not pleased with the team performance. After the overhauling of the team and a new coach like Mauricio Pochettino at the helm of affairs, I thought things are going to be different but after watching them play today and the series of poor results, I don't think I'm wrong to say that nothing has really changed. They are just wasteful with their chances. Chelsea is not playing in any european tournament this season, so they should have an edge over other big clubs who are playing more tournament, rotating their squad and trying to keep their players fit for the next game. I'm really disappointed with the result and Pochettino better turn things around quickly.

Yesterday's match was terrible. As a Chelsea fan, I feel that currently Chelsea is still far from winning. I was actually a little happy with Chelsea's game where they were able to control the match a little. This can be seen from ball possession statistics and also passing statistics. But for shots on target, it is clear that Chelsea are still playing very badly. This season they are not playing in any European league. I hope this can give Pochettino the opportunity to find good chemistry in the squad.
775  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Zenland Signature (+Avatar) Campaign - Up To $50 Per Week! 🌐 on: September 25, 2023, 09:01:46 AM
As a party running a signature campaign, we support the idea that participants should not leave the campaign in the middle of an ongoing week. It not only causes extra work for the managers but also should be treated as "irresponsibility" of the user and potentially flagged in his/her feedback record.

However, since this is no official rule, taking any sort of measure in such cases is up to the campaign owners and there is no need to further develop this discussion in this thread. Thank you.

I also agree with this. Leaving a campaign when it hasn't ended is not a good thing because it will make it difficult for managers to manage their campaign participants. And it also looks painful for those of us who haven't been accepted into the signature campaign. What I mean is that if someone really intends to campaign for these services then they should do their job properly.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: September 24, 2023, 08:35:51 AM
I also believe Nagelsman can make Germany a strong team again. Although it won't happen in a short time like to appear perfect at UEFA EURO 2024. He still needs time to adapt and find tactics and formations that suit the squad that Germany has. But I believe Nagelsman is a good coach for the German squad and I hope to give him enough time at least until the next world cup.

Julian Nagelsmann is a very talented manager, but what he can do when there is not enough young talent emerging through the ranks? Replacing retired players has been an issue with Central and Eastern European teams for some time. Putting pressure on the coach is not going to resolve this issue. The German football federation needs to look in to grassroots, and examine why the quality of play is on the decline. Or it maybe due to the fact that third world nations are getting elevated to the level of Germany and other European teams.

Yes, the step that Germany must take is to develop their young players. I agree with you that currently players in third countries in the world of football have increasingly developed. That's because they really develop their young talents. Currently I see that the German squad is filled with many old players or at least those aged 25++. Asian countries have grown stronger and many of their players are competing in the Top European Leagues. I think it won't be long before the power of Asian football develops in the future.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 24, 2023, 08:14:51 AM
Juventus was a mess in this match, as they were not serious and didn't show any passion of winning the game. I couldn't believe that they could stoop so low to allow Sasuolo to win them 4-2. This is one of the worst performance since the beginning of this season and if they don't take their matches serious, they will be nowhere on the table. What an impressive performance from Sasuolo and I must say that they deserve the victory.
What a sudden change in the Sassuolo vs Juventus game outcome, Even though Juventus had the majority of the possession, Sassuolo effective offensive plan ended up being the difference maker. Federico Gatti own goal in stoppage time was truly shocking. I Think Juventus appears to need to improve their focus and organization, especially in light of Szczesny's last-second error. They are no longer as competitive in their pursuit of Inter Milan, who have a perfect record and appear unstoppable. The competition for Serie A just got more interesting

I was also surprised by the result of the match. Even though the biggest blame is Szczesny, I think it's the team's fault. Allegri said that their team lost focus because they conceded first. I also saw that the Juventus players were surprised when Lauriente scored a quick goal and that was the difference in this match.
778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 24, 2023, 08:04:37 AM
After Barcelona's second goal, everyone thought the same thing. I was thinking that the chances of the match ending in Barcelona's favor were very slim, but Barca's show started. Barcelona won the 3 points with Lewandowski's extraordinary efforts. If they had lost this match, they would have suffered greatly in the championship race.
Why are so many people talking about fighting for the title now? Isn't this season still a very long way to go, it's still early in the season and there are still a lot of matches, the teams that are playing well now don't necessarily mean they can be consistent until the end of the season, and vice versa.

Barcelona has indeed been in good form in its last few matches and this week's match against Celta Vigo was a bit dramatic because they won by coming back after being 2 goals behind, but that is not surprising because the quality of the Barcelona team is much better and must be appreciated. The Barcelona team's mentality is good enough that they can make a comeback to win this match.

Talking about the championship title at the start of the season is a common thing and becomes a reference for the team's performance in the future. People will talk about fighting for the title at the start of the season and in the middle of the season, because in both seasons there are many teams that have the potential to win the title and this will be very interesting to talk about. I think talking about who will be champion at the end of the season is a bit boring because it's only about 2 clubs.
779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 24, 2023, 07:54:55 AM
I keep hearing that this or that country is not great in football because they don't have enough money.

In reality, there are examples of countries that are great in football and are very poor, Brazil being the most extreme case. Many of the players in Brazil grew up playing football without shoes, and even without food some days. Still, Brazil is the most successful country in the World Cup history.

Most South American teams share a similar story.

So, there is the proof that you don't need money to be the best in football

I am not sure about this. Brazil is a relatively prosperous nation, at least when compared to Asian and African nations. But it is true that there are quite a few informal settlements in Brazil (known as Favelas, with a total population of close to 11-12 million spread across 6,000+ localities), where the living standards are too low. But these sort of ghettoes can be found even in developed nations such as the United States and France. That doesn't mean that those who live there face too many obstacles in developing their game.

What makes football in Brazil great even though it is categorized as a poor country is, they are poor economically but they are very advanced in football. I think it is not suitable when Brazil's poverty is used as a reference as a poor country that is advanced in football. You can see that clubs in Brazil's top league often win the Libertadores and are often finalists in the Club World Cup. This means they have everything in football. At least Brazil has many talent scouts from various clubs or even from Europe, unlike countries in Asia and Africa where it is very difficult to penetrate the national level due to the lack of football facilities in those countries.
780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 24, 2023, 07:42:12 AM


Even De Gea made some mistakes but if you compare Onana when he was playing in Inter Milan with De Gea you can understand Onana had better performance than De Gea.
I think this goalkeeper needs some more time to get in better shape and the team should help him forget the mistake he made in the last game.


Onana and De Gea are two great goalkeepers in the world. To think that they are being compared for conceding goals I don't think is something good. What this means is that these two goalkeepers have support in the form of very poor defense from United. It will be a different story when the club has a good defense but the goalkeeper's performance in reading the game is poor so they concede. Like Karius when he was at Liverpool. Everyone will agree that the defense of United's defenders is very poor and opportunities are often created due to defenders' mistakes. It is difficult for any goalkeeper to show their best performance in such difficult situations.
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